Just bought this phone and found that on Android 11 encryption is default activated.
Is there a way to remove encryption from Xperia 1 III right now?
Thank you in advance
On a stock Android I don't think so.
This is screwed up.
You apparently can disable scoped storage with a ADB edit.
I'm force sampling Android 10, it's not too bad but even it's new security is unwanted.
11 is off the rails... and I'm not seeing any easy fixes.
Android used to be about user control... now it's more Apple than Android.
Prove me wrong... please, pretty please
[Closed] Universal SystemRW / SuperRW feat. MakeRW / ro2rw (read-only-2-read/write super partition converter)
Welcome to the one and only, the original, universal, System-RW / Super-RW feat. Make-RW / ro2rw (read-only-2-read/write super partition converter) by lebigmac Also known as: THE-REAL-RW, FULL-RW, EXT4-RW, EROFS-RW, EROFS-2-RW, F2FS-RW...
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[Closed] Universal SystemRW / SuperRW feat. MakeRW / ro2rw (read-only-2-read/write super partition converter)
Welcome to the one and only, the original, universal, System-RW / Super-RW feat. Make-RW / ro2rw (read-only-2-read/write super partition converter) by lebigmac Also known as: THE-REAL-RW, FULL-RW, EXT4-RW, EROFS-RW, EROFS-2-RW, F2FS-RW...
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That's for rooted devices...
blackhawk said:
That's for rooted devices...
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Who the hell doesn't root his device?
BlazingKahn35 said:
Who the hell doesn't root his device?
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Those who have $800+ devices under factory warranty with Snapdragon processors, and don't want to spend forever to set it up, etc, etc
With firmware like R rooting may be the only way to make it usable or to get a descent rom loaded.
blackhawk said:
Those who have $800+ devices under factory warranty with Snapdragon processors, and don't want to spend forever to set it up, etc, etc
With firmware like R rooting may be the only way to make it usable or to get a descent rom loaded.
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Might aswell just buy an iPhone then
BlazingKahn35 said:
Might aswell just buy an iPhone then
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If you're running a rooted Android 11 you pretty much have a jail broke iPhone
blackhawk said:
Those who have $800+ devices under factory warranty with Snapdragon processors, and don't want to spend forever to set it up, etc, etc
With firmware like R rooting may be the only way to make it usable or to get a descent rom loaded.
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I care very little about warranty. Always unlocked bootloader of pretty much all my Xperia ASAP.
Buy with newer sony phones i usually wait till there Is a way to unlock bootloader without losing function or without green photo problem.
Then i will stay with encrypted phone a little more. It's really unwanted for me.
Evil_Sephiroth said:
I care very little about warranty. Always unlocked bootloader of pretty much all my Xperia ASAP.
Buy with newer sony phones i usually wait till there Is a way to unlock bootloader without losing function or without green photo problem.
Then i will stay with encrypted phone a little more. It's really unwanted for me.
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Honey for your mouth man. Tell him
Evil_Sephiroth said:
I care very little about warranty. Always unlocked bootloader of pretty much all my Xperia ASAP.
Buy with newer sony phones i usually wait till there Is a way to unlock bootloader without losing function or without green photo problem.
Then i will stay with encrypted phone a little more. It's really unwanted for me.
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I hear that. The battery always lasts a little longer then the factory warranty
With the Samsungs I'm using gaining root isn't easy if even possible. It runs fast, stable and is fulfilling its mission.
I can't speak for Sony Android's but with Samsung stock Android's rooting isn't needed (and counterproductive in many cases) for functionality or battery life.
Android 11... those phones are not worth touching unless you can purge R completely.
So yeah with that junk it's root or shoot
Or do what I did and buy a second of pre-R Android you like. I'm good for 2-5 years.
Both Samsung and Android can f-f-fade away... it's all copacetic.
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I hear that. The battery always lasts a little longer then the factory warranty
With the Samsungs I'm using gaining root isn't easy if even possible. It runs fast, stable and is fulfilling its mission.
I can't speak for Sony Android's but with Samsung stock Android's rooting isn't needed (and counterproductive in many cases) for functionality or battery life.
Android 11... those phones are not worth touching unless you can purge R completely.
So yeah with that junk it's root or shoot
Or do what I did and buy a second of pre-R Android you like. I'm good for 2-5 years.
Both Samsung and Android can f-f-fade away... it's all copacetic.
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On sony smartphones bootloader unlock was Always godsend.
Gaming access to CPU voltage tablet in custom kernel on old XZ add something close to 2 hour screen on time reducing heat generation and without performance loss.
CPU voltages on smartphones are the same then PC CPU. OEM voltage are top high.simpky becouse they can't know how lucky Is the silicium and then they set standard voltages good for all.
Also access to CPU governators and I/O scheduler Is a must.
And for Samsung i promised to me years ago to never touch again a smartphone from that brand xD
Evil_Sephiroth said:
On sony smartphones bootloader unlock was Always godsend.
Gaming access to CPU voltage tablet in custom kernel on old XZ add something close to 2 hour screen on time reducing heat generation and without performance loss.
CPU voltages on smartphones are the same then PC CPU. OEM voltage are top high.simpky becouse they can't know how lucky Is the silicium and then they set standard voltages good for all.
Also access to CPU governators and I/O scheduler Is a must.
And for Samsung i promised to me years ago to never touch again a smartphone from that brand xD
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I like You!
I never had a locked Android Device for longer as a Day. Never would imagine to buy an iPhone...
Evil_Sephiroth said:
On sony smartphones bootloader unlock was Always godsend.
Gaming access to CPU voltage tablet in custom kernel on old XZ add something close to 2 hour screen on time reducing heat generation and without performance loss.
CPU voltages on smartphones are the same then PC CPU. OEM voltage are top high.simpky becouse they can't know how lucky Is the silicium and then they set standard voltages good for all.
Also access to CPU governators and I/O scheduler Is a must.
And for Samsung i promised to me years ago to never touch again a smartphone from that brand xD
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Samsung runs hot and cold, year to year... they're fickle.
Their flagship phones can be some of the best.
The Note 10+ is a prime example of when they're running hot and true.
I don't root so that's not a concern, but do heavy customize; Samsung is probably the best stock phone for that with many free customization options/apps on the Galaxy Store. I also heavily reconfigure the phone and package block a fair number of apps.
Otherwise I would hate it.
Since the 10+ I'm still waiting for Samsung to release something I like... so I got a second new 10+. Whatever, may take another 2 years for Samsung to get their rapid gerbil team right again
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US..ONLY..So after an extensive research ...I bought the biggest Smartphone I can get...An 8 inch screen phone with a good battery life. For starters, here is what I found out...
Huawei has several models that are very confusing and even their customer service were not that much informative. models I have encountered are the following:
Huawei T1 8 Pro Honor - 823 L - 2 GB RAM and 16 GB Storage (Limited Bands for LTE but 4G speeds were fast enough for my use, got it from ebay)
Huawei T1 8 Pro Honor - 821 L - 1 GB RAM and 8 GB or 16 GB Storage options (More bands for LTE but 1 GB of RAM only)
Huawei T1 8 Pro Honor - 821 W - 1 GB RAM and 16 GB storage option (I think the W stands for WIFI...this I cannot confirm)
Huawei T1 8 Pro Mediapad - 2 GB RAM and 16 GB Storage from gethuawei website...out of stock as of this writing)
Huawei T1 8 Mediapad - 1 GB RAM and 16 GB Storage
This one has 4.4 for Android OS...I do not know if http://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ot-huawei-mediapad-t1-8-0-pro-lte-t1-t3262608
has found a way to upgrade to Lollipop and remove bloatwares.
personally, the hardware is decent and battery life is great. I used it for 1 day and end fo the day still had 50% of battery life. I do need to have big pants though. Is there anyone trying to develop an updated OS for this system?
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US..ONLY..So after an extensive research ...
This one has 4.4 for Android OS...I do not know if http://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ot-huawei-mediapad-t1-8-0-pro-lte-t1-t3262608
has found a way to upgrade to Lollipop and remove bloatwares.
personally, the hardware is decent and battery life is great. I used it for 1 day and end fo the day still had 50% of battery life. I do need to have big pants though. Is there anyone trying to develop an updated OS for this system?
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Nope nobody is developing anything to this device... Not even Huawei I guess... BTW after root bloatware can be easily removed...
Too bad...
Con_Sole said:
Nope nobody is developing anything to this device... Not even Huawei I guess... BTW after root bloatware can be easily removed...
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Too Bad, this is a good device and the battery life is good for a phone with an 8 inch screen. It is also good for those who have problems with vision and not wanting to be bringing 2 devices for travels.
I may have to learn programming to see if I can update this...
I have the MediaPad T1 8.0 Pro and it has the best radio/modem for T-Mobile coverage. It even covers their HSPDA+ 750 MhZ band which only a few phones cover; this is the band that T-Mobile calls the "building buster" for its ability to penetrate most buildings. So yeah for all that.. I'm now waiting for an 8-inch phablet that's octo-core and features Lollipop or Marshmallow. So far I have been unable to find one..
So which one of the above did you get? 823L, 821L, or the one from Gethuawei website?...i m like you impressed with the build but needs a pure Android OS to maximize it's potential.
A have the pro8 t1-821L its rootable and bloatware can be removed this way I have also unlocked the bootloader but there is no custom recovery or ROM which is a damn shame because it's nice bit of kit a can watch movies all night long on it and still not need to charge it also am not locked to EE either so if any devs r reading this post please help this phablet out? cheers
Agree
skooter32 said:
A have the pro8 t1-821L its rootable and bloatware can be removed this way I have also unlocked the bootloader but there is no custom recovery or ROM which is a damn shame because it's nice bit of kit a can watch movies all night long on it and still not need to charge it also am not locked to EE either so if any devs r reading this post please help this phablet out cheers
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I would have wanted the 821L also but there were no 2GB available anywhere. Only 1 GB. But even with my 823L and connecting at 4G, the speed is negligible in our area which is Central Florida. I get to watch Netflix, and Youtube also with not much lag. And I do not have to squint from a small screen. Agree, also that if anyone can build a custom ROM that's plain Android Lolllipop would be nice.
Would a T1 8 Cutom ROM work for the T1 8 Pro?
http://unlock-bootloader.net/how-to/unlock-bootloader-huawei-mediapad-t1-8-0/
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I would have wanted the 821L also but there were no 2GB available anywhere. Only 1 GB. But even with my 823L and connecting at 4G, the speed is negligible in our area which is Central Florida. I get to watch Netflix, and Youtube also with not much lag. And I do not have to squint from a small screen. Agree, also that if anyone can build a custom ROM that's plain Android Lolllipop would be nice.
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Yes it would be and highly appreciated too?
str8pah23 said:
Would a T1 8 Cutom ROM work for the T1 8 Pro?
http://unlock-bootloader.net/how-to/unlock-bootloader-huawei-mediapad-t1-8-0/
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The page you linked is not good. The download links are there just to make you send money. Currently there are no custom recovery for huawei t1 8.0 neither to t1 8.0 pro without that installing custom roms are not really convenient. And also I wasn't able to find any custom rom especially on XDA, so I'm pretty sure thereare no "hints" on xda as the page says....
Huawei MediaPad T1 8.0 Pro GSM Unlocked 4G LTE US
Yes I do agree with everyone here. It is a very great device and a lot of bang for your buck plus more. The great thing about it is that you can basically make it however you want it. I manually updated mine to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow. Which took some time because Huawei is a very new brand and I had to get used to there EmotionUI. Which didn't take long because its Android too. Just without the app drawer. So its kind of ahead because Android N is going that direction from what I hear. Also after rooting and installing BusyBox I tried to install xPosed. But the Huawei device wouldn't take it because they already have there own framework. So I started to tinker more with it and found out that yes indeed they have framework already. That's why it reads a message error when trying to install xPosed and it says something about xPosed not being compatible. I believe it has something to do with their EmotionUI. Not sure though because that's my first Huawei experience. The device is really solid though. Resolution can be tweaked and the display looks so gorgeous then. Values for everything can be tweaked to make the OS run liquid smooth and fast with very little noticeable lag or hiccups. Also the volume values can change as well giving it a more premium sound. Camera resolution was turned up along with high quality pictures. So the pics stayed sharp looking. Also when some values are entered it gives the gaming experience so much more life through the CPU and the GPU. Rendering gets way better too. Also changing the data values gives it more LTE speed too. Along with other values that make the browser loading times instantly. Even when being on the mobile data network seems like you would be connected to WiFi. It saves a lot of data too. And the battery is amazing. I'm trying to remember what other tweaks worked perfect for it and it ran with no problems. Oh yes it can multi task with up to four things going on. I got the app where you can, watch YouTube and Google something. And watch something on eBay all in different windows at the same time. It got warm but handles it very well. You should overclock it and have the battery set on smart mode. Oh yes and change the font. I had Disney font on it and went to a more modern font look. I'll let y'all know what else I did if I can think of anymore things. Just reply I will come back to this forum. It is my most favorite device of all at the moment. And Huawei is so new too.
mduong1981 said:
Yes I do agree with everyone here. It is a very great device and a lot of bang for your buck plus more. The great thing about it is that you can basically make it however you want it. I manually updated mine to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow. Which took some time because Huawei is a very new brand and I had to get used to there EmotionUI. Which didn't take long because its Android too. Just without the app drawer. So its kind of ahead because Android N is going that direction from what I hear. Also after rooting and installing BusyBox I tried to install xPosed. But the Huawei device wouldn't take it because they already have there own framework. So I started to tinker more with it and found out that yes indeed they have framework already. That's why it reads a message error when trying to install xPosed and it says something about xPosed not being compatible. I believe it has something to do with their EmotionUI. Not sure though because that's my first Huawei experience. The device is really solid though. Resolution can be tweaked and the display looks so gorgeous then. Values for everything can be tweaked to make the OS run liquid smooth and fast with very little noticeable lag or hiccups. Also the volume values can change as well giving it a more premium sound. Camera resolution was turned up along with high quality pictures. So the pics stayed sharp looking. Also when some values are entered it gives the gaming experience so much more life through the CPU and the GPU. Rendering gets way better too. Also changing the data values gives it more LTE speed too. Along with other values that make the browser loading times instantly. Even when being on the mobile data network seems like you would be connected to WiFi. It saves a lot of data too. And the battery is amazing. I'm trying to remember what other tweaks worked perfect for it and it ran with no problems. Oh yes it can multi task with up to four things going on. I got the app where you can, watch YouTube and Google something. And watch something on eBay all in different windows at the same time. It got warm but handles it very well. You should overclock it and have the battery set on smart mode. Oh yes and change the font. I had Disney font on it and went to a more modern font look. I'll let y'all know what else I did if I can think of anymore things. Just reply I will come back to this forum. It is my most favorite device of all at the moment. And Huawei is so new too.
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How did you updated your device to Android 6.0?
Yes, how did you update to 6 Marshmallow, your experience is very promising for us...
Sorry....
Con_Sole said:
The page you linked is not good. The download links are there just to make you send money. Currently there are no custom recovery for huawei t1 8.0 neither to t1 8.0 pro without that installing custom roms are not really convenient. And also I wasn't able to find any custom rom especially on XDA, so I'm pretty sure thereare no "hints" on xda as the page says....
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So sorry the link is not working...I guess it's up to this thread if we can have enough people to put our thought and reviews together about this device. As of today, I started looking at battery life, Pulled out the charger at 7 AM, Now its 7 Pm and I still at 70%.
str8pah23 said:
So sorry the link is not working...I guess it's up to this thread if we can have enough people to put our thought and reviews together about this device. As of today, I started looking at battery life, Pulled out the charger at 7 AM, Now its 7 Pm and I still at 70%.
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Can we use a T1 10 Pro Rom for this device? Any of our XDA programmers chime in...?
So I just bought a Huawei ascend mate 7... finished using the tablet phone as I am almost done with my school... It was a nice piece of hardware and convenient in not having to bring two devices... But now I need mobility so I will be selling this one soon on eBay. If only it had a good following to install a updated os ....
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Just have been proposed in carrier offer several modest budget phones, among them I like Aqua m4 and Huawei p9 lite.
When compared p9 lite seems to prevail in almost any aspect, except one: water resistance
Indeed, imagine, what gain from better hardware if when it accidentally drops into e.g. sink then it becomes just a brick?
However when in forums here I keep reading about Aqua's cumbersome issues, Sony's user-unfriendly and unkind bullying like attitude (in stock MarshMallow blocked SD internal storage expansion despite built in storage is remarkably small),
in practice water resistance appears very dubious,
problems with famous overheating which often bricks phones,
WiFi battery drain etc,
then the above points makes me think twice.
In fact carrier consultant defended Aqua's quality saying the main hardware issues, like overheating, were present just in initial distribution line,
after numerous consumers feedback the manufacturer improved Aqua's deficiencies and now the model is mature enough and rock solid stable.
Would you share this view our rather you would prefer p9 lite?
Warmly thanks for any of your advice, in advance!
i will prefer P9 Lite, new device and maybe new OS (Nougat) :laugh:
I prefer Xperia M4 Aqua
ioy said:
Just have been proposed in carrier offer several modest budget phones, among them I like Aqua m4 and Huawei p9 lite.
When compared p9 lite seems to prevail in almost any aspect, except one: water resistance
Indeed, imagine, what gain from better hardware if when it accidentally drops into e.g. sink then it becomes just a brick?
However when in forums here I'm keep reading about Aqua's cumbersome issues, Sony's user-unfriendly and unkind bullying like attitude (in stock MarshMallow blocked SD internal storage expansion despite built in storage is remarkably small),
in practice water resistance appears very dubious,
problems with famous overheating which often bricks phones,
WiFi battery drain etc,
then the above points makes me think twice.
In fact carrier consultant defended Aqua's quality saying the main hardware issues, like overheating, were present just in initial distribution line,
after numerous consumers feedback the manufacturer improved Aqua's deficiencies and now the model is mature enough and rock solid stable.
Would you share this view our rather you would prefer p9 lite?
Warmly thanks for any of your advice, in advance!
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It's worth considering that most of the issues are gone. I rarely get phone to heat (Never actually heated on marshmallow) nor battery drain on wifi since I did clean update not like some users who say otherwise. It's awesome phone just lack of storage kills it try to buy 16gb one
tomcis147 said:
It's awesome phone just lack of storage kills it try to buy 16gb one
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What if the carrier proposition doesn't include such Aqua version?
And also greater SD: does it accept,
and what about Android MM's internal memory expanding into SD, does it work at last in Aqua?
Why in Android MarshMallow specifically it doesn't heat up at all?
I hate the M4 Aqua because there are no custom ROMs for it.
But there are no ROMs for the P9 Lite (yet) either.
If installing a custom ROM is your thing, then i would choose neither.
If on the other hand you do not care about custom ROMs then i would choose the Huawei for it's better specs (for me screen resolution is most important difference) , unless you live in a place where you get wet often and you need the water proofing the M4 Aqua offers.
maXDAmn said:
i will prefer P9 Lite, new device and maybe new OS (Nougat) :laugh:
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Yes the new device, much better hardware, dual SIM, however NOT WATERPROOF
Is Nougat the new system version so important?
In fact the newest software usually is very buggy, it needs time to mature through painstaking consumer feedback
ioy said:
Yes the new device, much better hardware, dual SIM, however NOT WATERPROOF
Is Nougat the new system version so important?
In fact the newest software usually is very buggy, it needs time to mature through painstaking consumer feedback
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The newest software is not always very buggy. Sometimes it is. Sometimes it is not. The Marshmallow for my M4 Aqua runs without any problem for me.
The newest software is not always very buggy. Sometimes it is. Sometimes it is not.
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And sometimes it offers worse functionality, is Nougat really better and why?
Waancho said:
The Marshmallow for my M4 Aqua runs without any problem for me.
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Have you rooted, modded, the phone, have you it with unlocked bootloader and custom recovery?
papak.p said:
I prefer Xperia M4 Aqua
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Please, write more
ioy said:
Have you rooted, modded, the phone, have you it with unlocked bootloader and custom recovery?
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I have unlocked bootloader, custom recovery, that's it.
Don't you need root?
KittyKat FreeTab1001
Waancho said:
I hate the M4 Aqua because there are no custom ROMs for it.
If on the other hand you do not care about custom ROMs then i would choose the Huawei for it's better specs (for me screen resolution is most important difference)
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Android stock system modding should suffice, making ROOT, trimming the bloatware, installing some system controlling suites (e.g. 3C tools, LBE) not to mention Xposed with some very innovative modules
And are there custom kernels for Aqua here?
Why is screen resolution so important for you?
It seems the "HD-ready" 720x1280px on 5inch display is
hardly discernable from FullHD 1080x1920px,
can you see the difference, honestly, can you indeed
perceive it by your own eyes and isn't it just a placebo?
Maybe someone needs it for reading through magnifying glass
And probably higher screen resolution drains battery faster.
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
The SD845 is not a CPU, it's an SoC comprised of many components. This includes Kyro CPU clusters, DSP, Adreno, x20 modem, LPDDR4x support (RAM), and UFS 2.1 support.
Third & fourth question is impossible to answer, the company hasn't made a formal promise. This phone will cannibalize their sales, so who knows.
Ace42 said:
The SD845 is not a CPU, it's an SoC comprised of many components. This includes Kyro CPU clusters, DSP, Adreno, x20 modem, LPDDR4x support (RAM), and UFS 2.1 support.
Third & fourth question is impossible to answer, the company hasn't made a formal promise. This phone will cannibalize their sales, so who knows.
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Sorry, it's a SoC, too much IT around me xDD.
Can You tell me what do you mean by saying that this phone will cannibalize their sales? (My English is bad)
How about question no 1?
Why would u buy one of their 20+ phones they have available now, when this one is so cheap?
theaxis01 said:
Why would u buy one of their 20+ phones they have available now, when this one is so cheap?
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It is complicated
Was in reference to the post above mine
To answer the unanswered questions
Poco f1 will be treated like a poco phone.
They promised Android pie.
Any phone that comes with android 8 pre installed should be 100% treble compatible.
Peace
selvarajrajkanna said:
To answer the unanswered questions
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androidbadboy said:
Which questions?
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Last two
selvarajrajkanna said:
Last two
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It's complicated, sorry my Friend.
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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1. I don't think that will be a issue during normal use... It will be issue in any phone of You use it without a proper grip or while typing and holding with the same hand...
2. In simple words RAM and storage should also be really Good... Overall performance of this device will be really Amazing so need not worry about RAM or storage speed bottleneck...
3. It will be totally different from Mi and Redmi... Poco will be independent in software and development while sales and services will be carried out by Xiaomi...
4. That's a question that needs time to be answered but since it is independent from Mi and Redmi, it should atleast get 2 (Android P and Q) android version updates (in My view) but it will surely get Android Pie as it was announced... MIUI update should be coming for it for atleast 2 years (usually 3)...
5. Since it is released with Android Oreo, it is Treble Enabled...
bharathulaganathan said:
1. I don't think that will be a issue during normal use... It will be issue in any phone of You use it without a proper grip or while typing and holding with the same hand...
2. In simple words RAM and storage should also be really Good... Overall performance of this device will be really Amazing so need not worry about RAM or storage speed bottleneck...
3. It will be totally different from Mi and Redmi... Poco will be independent in software and development while sales and services will be carried out by Xiaomi...
4. That's a question that needs time to be answered but since it is independent from Mi and Redmi, it should atleast get 2 (Android P and Q) android version updates (in My view) but it will surely get Android Pie as it was announced... MIUI update should be coming for it for atleast 2 years (usually 3)...
5. Since it is released with Android Oreo, it is Treble Enabled...
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Wow, thanks, You're knowledge is amazing!
Are You a Dev?
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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1. Poco F1 is amongst the many other phones which boasts of so called "bezel less" body. So clearly your question may be asked for any such phone.
2. Apart from CPU, POCO has a very good GPU, LPDDR4x RAM and UFS 2.1 Storage. So no it's just not the CPU alone.
3. POCO will be treated like a separate phone series and we might see POCO F"2" in coming days. (Realme 1 followed by Realme 2).
4. Pie has been promised by Xiaomi and the phone might just see Android Q as well. Cannot really comment on that.
5. Any phone launching with Android Oreo or later out of the box has to be Project Treble compliant so YES.
androidbadboy said:
Wow, thanks, You're knowledge is amazing!
Are You a Dev?
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Nope... Just another person like You who does a lot of research to gain some knowledge... You will soon be way Better than Me...
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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2. Apart from the latest generation SOC, the ram and storage is also top notch. It has lpddr4x ram and UFS 2.1 storage so pretty fast and latest gen again.
3 & 4. With kernel source already released, camera2api enabled by default and bootloader unlocked who cares about company software support. We have excellent devs who will make this device fly for a long long time, incidentally the company has promised android P update in the 4th quarter and android security updates regularly.
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Nope... Just another person like You who does a lot of research to gain some knowledge... You will soon be way Better than Me...
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WOW Thanks of thinking of me so high but with all do respect I have to disagree. Doing reaserch is not enought to become an expert. In my opinion You have to do some practise: configre many different phones, flash custom roms, service phones, try different apps and be an accual DEV.
THANKS to Ruvy, SingularityHRT3, sanjay0501
as I dont know how to reply on each reply
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WOW Thanks of thinking of me so high but with all do respect I have to disagree. Doing reaserch is not enought to become an expert. In my opinion You have to do some practise: configre many different phones, flash custom roms, service phones, try different apps and be an accual DEV.
THANKS to Ruvy, SingularityHRT3, sanjay0501
as I dont know how to reply on each reply
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I do quite a few of them, just feeling bad that I am incapable of building ROMs or by any other such (development) means contributing to the community...
You can use multi-quote to reply to many posts at once...
SingularityHRT3 said:
I do quite a few of them, just feeling bad that I am incapable of building ROMs or by any other such (development) means contributing to the community...
You can use multi-quote to reply to many posts at once...
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I tried but I failed at Multi-Qoute
(probably Folks think that I shouldnt confess to that.... well ..... long story)
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I tried but I failed at Multi-Qoute
(probably Folks think that I shouldnt confess to that.... well ..... long story)
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Let it go... I just got My hands on the device yesterday when it arrived... Its really Good... Software seems to be not yet optimised properly so it should perform far Better in a few weeks... The rounded edges are a little to big, certain UI and app elements seem to hide behind it...
Agree to that, the rounded edges at the bottom area were certainly unnecessary, so far this is the first annoyance with the phone
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Let it go... I just got My hands on the device yesterday when it arrived... Its really Good... Software seems to be not yet optimised properly so it should perform far Better in a few weeks... The rounded edges are a little to big, certain UI and app elements seem to hide behind it...
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Hi again
The situation :
Mate 10 PRO BLA-L29
9.1..0.306 (C432E4R1P11) - (C432 EU version)
Stock Recovery / No more TWRP / No more Root
I've made many upgrades today starting from 8.0.0.145 to this last version. Now I just want to RELock the bootlader ; what I didn't know is that the code is also needed for the RELocking operation :BRAVO Huawei:good:
I have also figurate out that I do not have anymore the needed code...
Thus, I thought the bootlocker would relock by itself through the multiples upgrades, but nothing, it is still wide unlock.
Regarding the version I have now, what are my possibilities to RELock the bootloader without the provided code ???
Many thanks
solid.snake said:
Hi again
The situation :
Mate 10 PRO BLA-L29
9.1..0.306 (C432E4R1P11) - (C432 EU version)
Stock Recovery / No more TWRP / No more Root
I've made many upgrades today starting from 8.0.0.145 to this last version. Now I just want to RELock the bootlader ; what I didn't know is that the code is also needed for the RELocking operation :BRAVO Huawei:good:
I have also figurate out that I do not have anymore the needed code...
Thus, I thought the bootlocker would relock by itself through the multiples upgrades, but nothing, it is still wide unlock.
Regarding the version I have now, what are my possibilities to RELock the bootloader without the provided code ???
Many thanks
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Use the DLOAD method, that should lock your bootloader to factory state, not just re-locked.But that would also wipe your data, so make a backup first.
If you got your code from Huawei, you should check thru your emails, it might be in there. You never know when you will need it to unlock again.
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Use the DLOAD method, that should lock your bootloader to factory state, not just re-locked.But that would also wipe your data, so make a backup first.
If you got your code from Huawei, you should check thru your emails, it might be in there. You never know when you will need it to unlock again.
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Sure, but I lt seems there is no service firmware with my actual version, isn't it ?
No sûre I can downgrade to a previous version without brick my device.
I got the code from a tchat session, and I didn't make any screenshot, Big mistake indeed.
Is there any difference between a locked (#dload) and a RELock (Huawei code) method ??
Yours
@Pretoriano80 :
Do you know if if the "Firmware Collection you talk in the bottom of the 1rst post here :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/tool-emui-9-0-to-9-1-upgrade-tool-t3949867
Can help me out there ?
Firmware / Preload / Cust ???
Thanks
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@Pretoriano80 :
Do you know if if the "Firmware Collection you talk in the bottom of the 1rst post here :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/tool-emui-9-0-to-9-1-upgrade-tool-t3949867
Can help me out there ?
Firmware / Preload / Cust ???
Thanks
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B306 is only available from easy-firmware, which is paid.
You could try with B300 from here: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=6006931924117922686
You'd need to either use an OTG cable and a memory stick and put the 'dload' folder at the root of the memory stick. After this reboot with OTG cable plugged into phone and hold vol up +´down, this will start dload mode.
Or, since you're already unlocked, copy the 'dload' folder using adb push to /data/update/dload/ (structure should be /data/update/dload/update_sd.zip and /data/update/dload/BLA-L29_hw_eu/update_BLA-L29_hw_eu.zip or whatever the cust zip was named.)
If you're booted to system you'll have to push to sdcard first, then copy or mv the files using adb shell. From TWRP you can push directly.
Next using adb shell from command prompt:
adb shell
su
echo --factory_sd_update > /cache/recovery/command
And reboot to recovery.
Hi,
Many thanks, ill try it when I'll retrieve back my phone.
Yours
sorry i know this is off topic here but please can you guide me abiut this phone?
Huawei mate 10 pro, actually i was thinking about LG V20 and base on many review about the poor battery backup someone suggested huawei mate 10 pro.
i want good camera, performance, VoLTE, IR Blaster, Good screen and overall for daily atleast moderate user if not heavy user with magisk root.
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sorry i know this is off topic here but please can you guide me abiut this phone?
Huawei mate 10 pro, actually i was thinking about LG V20 and base on many review about the poor battery backup someone suggested huawei mate 10 pro.
i want good camera, performance, VoLTE, IR Blaster, Good screen and overall for daily atleast moderate user if not heavy user with magisk root.
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If you don't have it already, get something else that's more developer friendly. Huawei stopped giving out unlock codes, and the only way now is to pay for them (which isn't cheap) using, imo, shady dealers And I'm not sure which still has unlock codes to sell.
And without unlocking you can't have Magisk.
It's fine otherwise. Battery lasts 2 days with moderate usage.
A1deparagon said:
sorry i know this is off topic here but please can you guide me abiut this phone?
Huawei mate 10 pro, actually i was thinking about LG V20 and base on many review about the poor battery backup someone suggested huawei mate 10 pro.
i want good camera, performance, VoLTE, IR Blaster, Good screen and overall for daily atleast moderate user if not heavy user with magisk root.
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If you're asking should you buy it or not the answer would be NO.
The optimizations on the cpu side are atrocious, Myne is currently "dying" from lack of power.
Everything is getting more and more laggy, no matter the firmware.
The cpu is plenty powerful but Huawei is also plenty inexperienced in handling it properly.
Once all the limitations are removed - early stage firmware and apps cloned with package name renamed to match one of the benchmark apps you see drastic performance differences.
Best I found was rename to benchmark apps and activate power saving mode while using those apps to prevent overheating.
You'd find that the cpu is a beast, still performing more than adequate for 2019/2020. That's 60 fps stable on most of the games when the system allows it. If they had any proper thermal management that doesn't restrict it so aggressively the situation would be much different. Device heats up from normal use even, when you start gaming you're getting throttled from the get go and the throttle curve is simply out bad. Device is permanently locked in a throttling state which really sucks, heat dissipation does not exists either so there is no simple solution other than to allow for higher thermal limits or modify the device both software and hardware.
If you feel like doing this type of thing for any app you'd like to use then go ahead, do keep in mind tho that the early firmwares are burn in prone - navigation area keeps getting burned in replacement after replacement while eye protection is toggled on a schedule of 5/6 hours only.
Any 835 device should offer more performance than this, mostly since the apps are built optimised for that cpu. Look into those devices if you're looking for a cheap device. And stay away from Huawei, the mate 10 Pro might look nice and all but it's built with 0 regards to thermal management and the software doesn't help it either, pretty much a dumpster fire that I wouldn't pick up again if given the choice.
thanks so much..... i will stick to LG v20 then
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If you don't have it already, get something else that's more developer friendly. Huawei stopped giving out unlock codes, and the only way now is to pay for them (which isn't cheap) using, imo, shady dealers And I'm not sure which still has unlock codes to sell.
And without unlocking you can't have Magisk.
It's fine otherwise. Battery lasts 2 days with moderate usage.
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Rstment ^m^ said:
If you're asking should you buy it or not the answer would be NO.
The optimizations on the cpu side are atrocious, Myne is currently "dying" from lack of power.
Everything is getting more and more laggy, no matter the firmware.
The cpu is plenty powerful but Huawei is also plenty inexperienced in handling it properly.
Once all the limitations are removed - early stage firmware and apps cloned with package name renamed to match one of the benchmark apps you see drastic performance differences.
Best I found was rename to benchmark apps and activate power saving mode while using those apps to prevent overheating.
You'd find that the cpu is a beast, still performing more than adequate for 2019/2020. That's 60 fps stable on most of the games when the system allows it. If they had any proper thermal management that doesn't restrict it so aggressively the situation would be much different. Device heats up from normal use even, when you start gaming you're getting throttled from the get go and the throttle curve is simply out bad. Device is permanently locked in a throttling state which really sucks, heat dissipation does not exists either so there is no simple solution other than to allow for higher thermal limits or modify the device both software and hardware.
If you feel like doing this type of thing for any app you'd like to use then go ahead, do keep in mind tho that the early firmwares are burn in prone - navigation area keeps getting burned in replacement after replacement while eye protection is toggled on a schedule of 5/6 hours only.
Any 835 device should offer more performance than this, mostly since the apps are built optimised for that cpu. Look into those devices if you're looking for a cheap device. And stay away from Huawei, the mate 10 Pro might look nice and all but it's built with 0 regards to thermal management and the software doesn't help it either, pretty much a dumpster fire that I wouldn't pick up again if given the choice.
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thanks for been there for me, i will buy LG V20
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thanks so much..... i will stick to LG v20 then
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thanks for been there for me, i will buy LG V20
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LG v20 is snapdragon 820 device, you'd still get more performance out of mate 10 Pro even with the throttling. You wouldn't get much room for modifications without paying left and right for stuff to open the device, new adhesive for the back glass, 3rd party software to downgrade.
I checked price of GALAXY s8 on amazon and it's the same as LG.
If you're buying online I'd order s8 instead or some other device with 835 cpu. I'm not sure what the price is locally but if it's only mate 10 Pro vs LG v20 without any possibility of getting a 835 device then I hate to say it but go with mate 10 Pro.
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thanks so much..... i will stick to LG v20 then
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thanks for been there for me, i will buy LG V20
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I didn't see anyone validate the V20 here..
Why wouldn't you try the OnePlus 5T ??
thanks so much i think you are right i will check s8 and one plus 5t too.
thanks for been there to enlightened me
Is there anything that predicts developers will take more interest in the Galaxy S23 range, so we can finally have a custom ROM scene for Galaxy?
Maybe because the S23 (all devices: S23, S23 Ultra, S23 Plus) ditch Exynos in favour of a Qualcomm SM8550-AC, an S23-exclusive version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2
Did we need a change of wind to make things turn out differently for this device versus earlier Galaxy S ranges? I really hope it's time for renewal, as if im not wrong, the last one that had a nice ROM scene & development going on was the Galaxy S5+ which is so many years ago..
I am talking about a sizable custom ROM scene (all recent devices were dealt a bad hand, or completely lacked it) and the least that would make me very happy: the entry of LineageOS, something that's not been there for years, surely for reasons.
Due to having been away from Galaxy as a result of the lack of ROM scenes in prior devices, I am out of the loop regarding Samsung Galaxy platforms for development support, can anyone state what the main things holding it back have been in recent years? Things being locked down too much, like with other major brands? For what the main blockers are, is there reason to believe that the S23, or the move from Exynos to Qualcomm chips on the other hand, will make a difference? Because as far i know, Qualcomm is the proficient & preferred platform for most devs.
Well as much as Samsung makes everything depend on Knox not being tripped, I doubt it.
I noticed that something may be ongoing when it comes to custom ROM (LineageOS, chipset) work for Galaxy S23+, see: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/
Development there can benefit S23 Ultra vice versa, as it's similar and also sm8550-ac, who knows if that person succeeds they'll move on to S23 Ultra afterwards. I know it's speculation, but in my book these are hopeful signs.
Rom scene has been dull on this side due to Samsung Crippling devices when rooted (Knox being permanently tripped - hence killing resale value) and Dev's losing interest in Samung. We have 2 roms and 2 devs actively supporting the development here which is nothing like the Galaxy S5 or Note 4 Days.
Aside to the above, The stock devices are so good, that there's nothing more you can achieve by rooting which can outweigh the cons of rooting.
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... We have 2 roms and 2 devs actively supporting the development here...
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There exist at least 2 other very good and stable Roms with lots of mods for the Ultra.
ATN Rom and VN Rom.
just noticed this thread about gsis on the s23 range : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-to-gsi-on-s23-ultra.4564249/#post-88279455 (seems to be interesting)
(also noticed a discussion on installing other gsis on the xiaomi 13 : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xiaomi-13-gsi.4572035 )
seems to be interesting to me ... maybe I ll buy an S23 to try (I saw a used one that was not too expensive) but maybe I am not avanced enough to succeed
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seems to be interesting to me ... maybe I ll buy an S23 to try (I saw a used one that was not too expensive) but maybe I am not avanced enough to succeed
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Nice, i was mainly interested in LineageOS/for development to get going on something like the latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (sm8550) chipsets, if only we can get a flagship from today in the best possible software package which is where i won't settle for anything less than LineageOS. Not in any case, no matter how good the stock ROM is - it's about freedom, control, privacy & security - where in LOS everything is opensource and auditable (as opposed to OEM.. you don't know what may be running and how secure it is). Not to speak of even faster security patch levels than from any vendor. I also believe you won't feel the true power of your high end hardware until you're running an OS that's practically as clean as AOSP, such as LOS. It's like people dont know any better, and that raw performance (flagships..) offsets your perception anyways.
Since this topic, i've set my gaze on a new device with the same chipset (sm8550) as the Galaxy S23 range - the Motorola Edge 40 Pro, a flagship.. even if chaptsand (as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/) can pull it off for Galaxy, i found a way to kickstart the effort for Moto Edge 40 Pro as well, by sponsoring it and bringing a few devs together. If you're interested in that effort, read some comments before and after this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-motorola-edge-30-dubai.4536169/post-88509185, and it still has to be moved into its own topic. But if that gets accomplished and for Galaxy it doesn't turn out well, at least ill have something to recommend to anyone that wants LineageOS on a latest tech flagship. For those that think like me, and won't ever settle for less.
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Since this topic, i've set my gaze on a new device with the same chipset (sm8550) as the Galaxy S23 range - the Motorola Edge 40 Pro, a flagship.. even if chaptsand (as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/) can pull it off for Galaxy, i found a way to kickstart the effort for Moto Edge 40 Pro as well, by sponsoring it and bringing a few devs together. If you're interested in that effort, read some comments before and after this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-motorola-edge-30-dubai.4536169/post-88509185, and it still has to be moved into its own topic. But if that gets accomplished and for Galaxy it doesn't turn out well, at least ill have something to recommend to anyone that wants LineageOS on a latest tech flagship. For those that think like me, and won't ever settle for less.
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thanks ! very interesting and generous from you !!
but I must say I am more interested in a hardware with a "flater" screen than the Edge 40 Pro.
an inconvenience with the S23 is that you are losing OTA with stock rom if you root it ( https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-root-magisk-samsung-galaxy-s23/ )
so, unless there is some AOSP rom with updates for the S23, it seems safer to me to go for the Xiaomi 13 (after I had a look at this guide : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...bootloader-root-flash-twrp-flash-rom.4538433/ ) ... or maybe I ll go for the Poco F5 pro 12/256 as it should start with an early bird price of 499E tomorrow, although it s an SD 8+ gen 1 instead of an SD 8 gen 2 (oh it will be 479E with the 20E coupon on https://ams.event.mi.com/fr/poco-f5-series-product-launch ) ...
good luck !