We can select customized app for "ShortKey"
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I don't have this option on my phone. What region is this? I'm on the HK region firmware 61.0.A.23.20
61.0.A.23.20 release-keys RU FW
It is possible that this feature may only come to countries with strong anti monopoly laws. Russia has asked phones sold there to offer local Russian alternatives to set as defaults, and without the ability to customize the button, Sony may have been deemed anti competitive. So they added this option to make sure they don't get fined/kicked out of the Russian market. I assume EU countries may get the same option.
The rest of the world? Ask your government to fine Google for anti competition and maybe we will get that button to be customizable too.
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It is possible that this feature may only come to countries with strong anti monopoly laws. Russia has asked phones sold there to offer local Russian alternatives to set as defaults, and without the ability to customize the button, Sony may have been deemed anti competitive. So they added this option to make sure they don't get fined/kicked out of the Russian market. I assume EU countries may get the same option.
The rest of the world? Ask your government to fine Google for anti competition and maybe we will get that button to be customizable too.
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no, it's because European users sh** eaters, almost every android phone has limitations in firmware in the European market (lower volume by 10%, or haven't eq, like my old OP7)
Well, they better release this for the US!
For now I already have my button remapped. You can find out how to do it right here on XDA.
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no, it's because European users sh** eaters, almost every android phone has limitations in firmware in the European market (lower volume by 10%, or haven't eq, like my old OP7)
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I'm only basing myself on assumptions, but the EU has already fined Google multiple times. Android users in the EU already have a ballot system where they are allowed to pick what browser and what search provider to be installed and used during setup in phones officially sold in the EU with EU region firmware.
This is not about feature limitations. This is about anticompetition. If Sony doesn't allow you to remap the button and forces you to use Google, just report it to your Government, They will fine Sony and tell them to fix it or get out of the EU market. Please read what I post instead of just rambling off your own complaints. I use logic, you are just screaming out of spite.
Edit: added links for your perusal. Please read and understand.
Android phones sold in Russia now required to preinstall Russian-made apps
Russia's new law went into effect yesterday, requiring that smart devices like iPhones and Android phones come preinstalled with Russian-made apps.
www.androidcentral.com
Get a look at Android’s browser and search ballots for the EU
The EU's unbundling of Android continues with pop-up browser and search pickers.
arstechnica.com
Sony just isn't any good at software. The Xperia 1 III is a beautiful piece of hardware but, damn, it's a mess to use. Sony has made fewer than the minimum number of changes needed for complete functionality. What they have changed tends to malfunction.
kevinmcmurtrie said:
Sony just isn't any good at software. The Xperia 1 III is a beautiful piece of hardware but, damn, it's a mess to use. Sony has made fewer than the minimum number of changes needed for complete functionality. What they have changed tends to malfunction.
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While I agree that Sony is getting from bad to to worse in terms of supporting their own phone's Android, I believe this is purely a marketing decision, either by Google or by Sony, or both.
Simple really. As long as they can get away with it, why not just force Google on everybody. Google gets profit from ads/collecting user data, and Sony gets profit from Google thanks to revenue sharing of those services running on their phones. That option will not be added to roms in countries that do not have strict anti competition laws. It has nothing to do with bugs or poor programming. If a feature isn't added to a software, how can there be a bug preventing it from appearing? It doesn't exist.
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India is one of the largest android market in the world yet it has been overlooked number of times by Google.
Currently 32 countries are in the list from where developers can sell paid apps and to everyone's surprise India is yet to make through.
It is because of this that developers turn towards other platform and android market misses on new and innovative apps that would have been published by such developers. Even free/trial version of such app doesn't gets developed coz many developers consider not to materialize the idea coz of lack of incentive for their hard work..
To raise a voice for the same I had put forward a petition which can be found over here
www.groubal.com/paid-android-apps-for-indian-developers/
Guys we need support in numbers. So do sign up the petition and help to spread word abt same among family and friends coz it is with your support that this petition can bring in a positive change..
Note :- petition is targeted towards Indian developers because India is one of the largest android market and still it is not in the list among 32 countries..
This is something I'm totally down with.
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I am sorry to burst your bubble, but an petition to Google wont help this cause. If there is anyone you should take it up with, its the Government. The Tax department has some real outdated laws and method to keep track of in flow of money from foreign countries so that you can be taxed for it. There is all sort of issues like knowing the source, collecting PAN card details and KYC forms, lot of other work. Which is very tedious and lot of additional work in comparison to the other countries. There was a similar issue with Paypal. Paypal took couple of years but now they have finally set up a sort of system to do all this. Google wallet is comparatively new and would take time to set up a system to be in accord with the local norms. So not exactly an issue of Google ignoring Indian developers but more of an issue of local government policies.
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I am sorry to burst your bubble, but an petition to Google wont help this cause. If there is anyone you should take it up with, its the Government. The Tax department has some real outdated laws and method to keep track of in flow of money from foreign countries so that you can be taxed for it. There is all sort of issues like knowing the source, collecting PAN card details and KYC forms, lot of other work. Which is very tedious and lot of additional work in comparison to the other countries. There was a similar issue with Paypal. Paypal took couple of years but now they have finally set up a sort of system to do all this. Google wallet is comparatively new and would take time to set up a system to be in accord with the local norms. So not exactly an issue of Google ignoring Indian developers but more of an issue of local government policies.
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even if it is an issue with the government but still I m pretty sure that government wont change its laws for a single company, it is the company which has to cope up with norms and make the large android customer base happy. It has been over two years I guess and still google can't make it work. Talking abt pan no., well who doesn't have one.. not an issue... and abt taxation, well dtaa will definitely help and even if India do not have dtaa with USA then its simple as that the residual income (after googles 30% cut) will be taxed in India in the hands of developer
In general google has always been ignorant,galaxy nexus never made it to India. So I guess petition is very well directed and all that is needed is support...
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galaxy nexus never made it to India.
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Galaxy nexus never made into India because Samsung don't want to ruin the sales of their flagships like s2 and s3.. not because of google
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TheAndroidGeek said:
Galaxy nexus never made into India because Samsung don't want to ruin the sales of their flagships like s2 and s3.. not because of google
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s2 and s3 are launched in rest of the world too..
well anyways that was just an example.. lets stay on topic
google may be having some plans for india..we need to wait and see..
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google may be having some plans for india..we need to wait and see..
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Waiting since 2 years... isn't it better that we step up
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/21/developers-from-india-can-now-sell-apps-in-the-play-store/
they removed it again , i guess we have to wait
karthiknayak94 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/21/developers-from-india-can-now-sell-apps-in-the-play-store/
they removed it again , i guess we have to wait
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yup but Atleast we can support the campaign
Yes it's official.... Indian developers can now sell paid apps.....
Thanks to all of you for support
http://android-developers.blogspot.in/2012/10/google-play-seller-support-in-india.html?m=1
My SGP612, Z3 Tablet Compact from Japan(I think, via eBay) 32GB Wifi, has said that it's up to date via the "About Tablet" settings and the Sony software on Windows and Mac ever since I've had it. Never got the 5.0 Lollipop and now the 5.1 is being released and nothing. Is there something easy that I was supposed to do here or does anyone know any little tips or tricks for this? Thanks very much.
Up to date, 5.1 release is only for: Italy and Benelux regions, speaking of model 612.
But you can flash it manually as I did. Works perfectly, though my region is Central Europe.
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Was hoping to not do any rooting or ROMing but if it comes down to it I will. Principle is though I shouldn't have to, ya know?
JunBringer said:
Was hoping to not do any rooting or ROMing but if it comes down to it I will. Principle is though I shouldn't have to, ya know?
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Agreed we shouldn't have to but things don't always work out that way.
It is great that we have options and contributors such as @sebarkh to step in with advice that I would never figure out on my own.
I am in the UK and likewise watching out for the update. If it fails to materialise OTA then I am reassured that there is a manual solution. But so far I am very impressed by what Sony is doing both in terms of hardware offerings and ongoing software support. Samsung needs to take heed.
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Up to date, 5.1 release is only for: Italy and Benelux regions, speaking of model 612.
But you can flash it manually as I did. Works perfectly, though my region is Central Europe.
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Oh derp. Should do more reading first, sorry! Thanks for the heads up!
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Agreed we shouldn't have to but things don't always work out that way.
It is great that we have options and contributors such as @sebarkh to step in with advice that I would never figure out on my own.
I am in the UK and likewise watching out for the update. If it fails to materialise OTA then I am reassured that there is a manual solution. But so far I am very impressed by what Sony is doing both in terms of hardware offerings and ongoing software support. Samsung needs to take heed.
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You're definitely right. I'll eventually stop being lazy and just do it myself for sure, just hoping I won't have to. I do really like what Sony is doing too. Hoping for a Z4/5 Ultra this year! Thanks for your help guys!
Luckily the 5.1 update came today for me over wifi, which was nice cause I didn't feel like using the desktop software. Looks great!
Just wondering if I am alone in waiting on the UK OTA update to 5.1.1?
If, for some reason, I have missed the boat then I shall follow sebarkh's advice and use XperiFirm. Otherwise I am happy to wait a while longer for Sony to get round to us.
Hi, I am now able to answer my own question. Yesterday Sony OTA upgraded my UK OS to v5.1.1
So I can defer rolling up my sleeves and getting my hands dirty and possibly voiding my warranty for a while. The need for Root is becoming quite pressing though.
Just stay on 4.4 because the 5.1.1 update sucks! There is no change regarding the throttling issue when brightness is above 50% or when you have automatic brightness activated so, the intermitent lag is stiil present.
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It solved all of the bugs that effected me though. :/
No throttling for me anymore on 5.1.1
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Nice...i sent a message to LG support (UAE) and they sent me this :
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LOL there is no Oreo for H870S...there is no official planing and news i tred contact with LGE 4 times and all same answers !!!
Plz do contact with LG
plz do spam in instagram page with Oreo
Maybe this change thier idea...
Here is like of my their answer to me :
https://ufile.io/6dllz
Link is for 30 days
What the hell is it with people turning into complete morons because an update is not coming instantly?
Is your Nougat not working? Are there thousands of bugs that require an instant oreo update?
And yes, I am SURE the marketing intern having to read all the "OMG OREO PLZ OR IMA CUT YOU" spam will walk right up to the CEO of LG and tell him "Listen here, buddy.. these people want Oreo, we better get Luis from development to sh*t out a ROM by tomorrow morning".
What's the hell........this will be my first and last LG phone....i was a Sony Lover for the past 12 years..........in terms of update Sony is the best.
give it to me
Same situation as mine, was Sonyboy since 2005, and G6 first and the last non-Sony phone, and we were unpleased with Sony's update speed!
The same for me, Sony since 2011 and Xperia X8. Now G6. Sony was almost always disappointing in terms of update policy and G6 was not so bad when it had 7.0... still hoping for LG to slightly speed up the update process for their phones and keeping my fingers crossed
Bobeobi said:
Same situation as mine, was Sonyboy since 2005, and G6 first and the last non-Sony phone, and we were unpleased with Sony's update speed!
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robertavarghese said:
What's the hell........this will be my first and last LG phone....i was a Sony Lover for the past 12 years..........in terms of update Sony is the best.
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The same for me, Sony since 2011 and Xperia X8. Now G6. Sony was almost always disappointing in terms of update policy and G6 was not so bad when it had 7.0... still hoping for LG to slightly speed up the update process for their phones and keeping my fingers crossed
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i had a Xperia SP that was amazing phone best phone i had easy for flash stock and custom roms 2 years updates included minors updates but my big mistake was turning to LG phones very low updates and low customers support...they just want to sell only in all way
I just received the ore update for my LG G6 H870S.
This Forum is transforming into Bobs and Vegena Trash Talk.
These are clearly very emotional reactions.
Few people hold onto a phone these days for more than 2-3 years anyway.
Therefore updates are simply unimportant in the overall usefulness of the phone
Even the security updates in that time span don't make much of a practical difference.
Updates are mostly hype, mostly cosmetic changes, with minor feature updates and under the hood changes that don't really impact people day to day
Mainly they are needed to take advantage of new hardware on the latest models.
When you buy any other electronic device, like a refrigerator or TV, do you expect "updates" for your device?
Do we scream to Westinghouse, "why aren't you sending me new and updated shelves and motors for my fridge every year?"
Time to take a breath, a little perspective
If the phone works well and you can use all the harware features, that would seem to be enough....
Hey guys,
Just wanted to share this surprising situation I recently noticed with @jrummy16's Root Check app. I never opened this app for the past 14+ months on my Note 8, yet I just noticed this today that it has used almost 6GB of data in the background throughout the past month! What TF
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If you have any of @jrummy16's apps, I highly suggest you check your data usage. What do you guys think?
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Restoring app data from Titanium Backup messes up the WiFi/Cellular data usage recorded for each app.
Its always a bad idea to double post but I really wonder why the mod closed the other thread - there is actually more to see than here ...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3899822
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Its always a bad idea to double post but I really wonder why the mod closed the other thread - there is actually more to see than here ...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3899822
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Didn't intend to double post, for some buggy reason, the XDA website kept giving me a "This Website is Not Available" error message the first 5 times I tried creating the thread. Went into my account stat details after first 5 attempts and didn't see anything new. 6th attempt it finally worked and then all the other 5 showed up.
Either way, XDA really should give an option to delete threads you created, especially for this reason. Not sure why such a basic function is missing in this forum.
I sold JRummy Apps in 2017 to Maple Media. I highly doubt they are doing anything fishy here, but they did add tons of ad SDKs. I hate what they have done with the apps and sadly I wish I never sold to them. I don't recommend using any apps published under JRummy Apps, not because I think they are doing anything malicious, but I think they're business practices are abhorrent. They don't care about the end-user. This is why we should always try to support (financially) indie-app developers and OSS, they have the user's interest in mind whereas companies like Maple Media could care less about you.
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I sold JRummy Apps in 2017 to Maple Media. I highly doubt they are doing anything fishy here, but they did add tons of ad SDKs. I hate what they have done with the apps and sadly I wish I never sold to them. I don't recommend using any apps published under JRummy Apps, not because I think they are doing anything malicious, but I think they're business practices are abhorrent. They don't care about the end-user. This is why we should always try to support (financially) indie-app developers and OSS, they have the user's interest in mind whereas companies like Maple Media could care less about you.
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Maple media guys approached me as well to buy my App portfolio, thankfully at that time, i got connected with @jrummy16 and he advised me against selling to them. Probably the best decision i ever made.
I can personally vouch for @jrummy16, he is one of the most trustworthy app developers i know. However I can't say the same for Maple media whose only aim is to make money of off end user. I would rather have my small tribe of users than sell my apps to a money hungry conglomerate. I am hoping jrummy16 can come back to the app scene. Jared and koush are among the highest quality indie developers out there.
Hello Everyone!
I have a a Tab S6 currently on Android 9 (stock) that unfortunately still won't get Android updates. I know Pie went out more than 3 years ago and I'd like to at least get on Android 10. But since I got this last December, I've been checking for new updates every week and I'm always told that my software is up to date.
Would you guys happen to know why that is the case?
Thank you very much in advance!
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I have two Note 10+'s, both stock with their original firmware, one's running on Pie, the other 10. Pie has better functionality and usability.
Security is simply not an issue unless you do stupid things*.
Leave it on Pie and be happy... you can upgrade at any time, no rush.
*if you use wifi (which I never do) that is a known vulnerability in Pie. Android 10 is more hardened for those attacks. It's more a public unsecure wifi issue which you should never use anyway.
If you use wifi or bluetooth in high population density areas you should research those vulnerabilities and then decide.
I'm ready to reload at anytime and my critical data is redundantly backed up... so I just don't care. My current load on my Pie variant will be 2 yo in June, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. What's not to like?
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I have two Note 10+'s, both stock with their original firmware, one's running on Pie, the other 10. Pie has better functionality and usability.
Security is simply not an issue unless you do stupid things*.
Leave it on Pie and be happy... you can upgrade at any time, no rush.
*if you use wifi (which I never do) that is a known vulnerability in Pie. Android 10 is more hardened for those attacks. It's more a public unsecure wifi issue which you should never use anyway.
If you use wifi or bluetooth in high population density areas you should research those vulnerabilities and then decide.
I'm ready to reload at anytime and my critical data is redundantly backed up... so I just don't care. My current load on my Pie variant will be 2 yo in June, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. What's not to like?
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Thank you very much for your input. I would definitely consider leaving it on Pie.
Cheers!
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Thank you very much for your input. I would definitely consider leaving it on Pie.
Cheers!
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You're welcome.
I really like Pie. Having 2 near identical N10+'s allows me to compare both OS versions side by side. Android 10 has dozens of new small Samsung system apps to maintain the UI's functionality and appearance. Both versions look nearly identical but Pie is easier to navigate the settings. There's no cpu cycle sucking scoped storage with Pie, it seems largely inactive in 10.
That changes with 11 and 12 is completely fubar.
Install Karma Firewall. A VPN based freeware app the uses almost no battery and will help secure your device and let you what accessing the internet. It's valuable logging feature is fully functional in Pie, but not Android 10.
It's on Playstore too.
Use this DNS setting to globally block ads and some blacklisted sites.