I am looking for a HD over-ear ANC headphone that can be used with s23 ultra.
the S23 ultra support sbc/aac/aptx and LDAC, SSC.
Yesterday, I tried Sony's wh1000 xm5 at store, it connected to my phone through AAC, and in the developer-optinos' menu, in the bluetooth audio codec selection, LDAC is grey.
however, both of the phone and headphone said they support LDAC.
And, is there any over-ear headphones support SSC, and with ANC support?
thanks.
xiangyou said:
I am looking for a HD over-ear ANC headphone that can be used with s23 ultra.
the S23 ultra support sbc/aac/aptx and LDAC, SSC.
Yesterday, I tried Sony's wh1000 xm5 at store, it connected to my phone through AAC, and in the developer-optinos' menu, in the bluetooth audio codec selection, LDAC is grey.
however, both of the phone and headphone said they support LDAC.
And, is there any over-ear headphones support SSC, and with ANC support?
thanks.
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I have the S23U as well as the XM5. It supports LDAC. After you connect the XM5 to your phone, you have to go to the phone's Bluetooth settings and enable LDAC from there.
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Just bought a pair of HBS-730 from LG, and it said that it supports aptX, and luckily, our Xperia Z Ultra supports aptX codec.
But,
Is this a type of file? A protocol? A software? Seems like Google does not offer me any good documents for me.
Wikipedia tells me that:
"In digital audio data reduction technology, aptX (formerly apt-X) is a family of proprietary audio codec compression algorithms."
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AptX
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LordManhattan said:
Wikipedia tells me that:
"In digital audio data reduction technology, aptX (formerly apt-X) is a family of proprietary audio codec compression algorithms."
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AptX
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Yes, I saw that, AND I only know that much. Anybody else?
It's a codec that can be used to stream CD quality audio over bluetooth. I picked up a Sony BM-10 for streaming music from XZU to my home theater. Both XZU and BM-10 support aptX
As far as I understand, it's a proprietary codec, so while the stock Sony ROM supports it (and I suppose any ROMs based on Sony's firmware would also support it), it is not available to distribute in AOSP ROMs, since no is paying a licensing fee for you to use it. Unless of course, it happens to be supported by Google's music player, or something, which may or may not even be possible.
can this somehow be connected to my car stereo with a 3.5mm jack, can i charge it in the car, please provide more info as I am interested in this device
hykhleif said:
can this somehow be connected to my car stereo with a 3.5mm jack, can i charge it in the car, please provide more info as I am interested in this device
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The easiest way to make aptx useable with your car audio may be to connect the output of an an aptx receiver to the input of your car audio. As APTX receiver you can use a Samsung HS3000 for example.
For charging the HS3000 you just need a simple USB charger for cars.
one of the reasons I liked the z ultra is because it supports aptx. BUT i have tried all mods and players and when I play songs from my z ultra on my sennheiser mm450x which supports aptx the sound so much worse than my iPad mini which does not support aptx.
I am really do wondering why different devices give different sound quality over bluetooth, I am confused as I thought that the deciding factor is the bluetooth protocol not the device.
hykhleif said:
one of the reasons I liked the z ultra is because it supports aptx. BUT i have tried all mods and players and when I play songs from my z ultra on my sennheiser mm450x which supports aptx the sound so much worse than my iPad mini which does not support aptx.
I am really do wondering why different devices give different sound quality over bluetooth, I am confused as I thought that the deciding factor is the bluetooth protocol not the device.
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have you tried turning off wifi?
Reason I ask is that with wifi on, the max speed bluetooth 4.0 and send/receive is 80kb/s
With wifi off... bluetooth 4.0 can almost get about 200kb/s
remembering that aptX is only supposed to be CD quality sound... i.e. 128kb/s
hamdogg said:
have you tried turning off wifi?
Reason I ask is that with wifi on, the max speed bluetooth 4.0 and send/receive is 80kb/s
With wifi off... bluetooth 4.0 can almost get about 200kb/s
remembering that aptX is only supposed to be CD quality sound... i.e. 128kb/s
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never ever thought wifi has an effect on bluetooth, I will test without wifi
no it did not help turning the wifi off.
I had a big fight the official sennheirser agent here in Israel, as I thought the sennheiser headset was not working properly, so when we tested it with other phones and tablets the sound was great.
I am getting bad quality with aptx over bluetooth using the z ultra, I really don't know why.
The bass is distorted and the treble right in my face so irritating, I don't know I thought the aptx would improve sound quality bu it did not, I really wish someone can tell me if the sound quality over bluetooth is device related or buetooth related. As I am getting a great sound using an iPhone and iPad mini but with the z ultra all I get is rubbish sound.
Guys I think I will move on and accept selling my device as that is not acceptable anymore unfortunately i put the phone for sale over a month ago and no one called about it
LORDMANHATTAN I will miss you watching and policing my threads, I think I am done here once someone buys it
hykhleif said:
no it did not help turning the wifi off.
I had a big fight the official sennheirser agent here in Israel, as I thought the sennheiser headset was not working properly, so when we tested it with other phones and tablets the sound was great.
I am getting bad quality with aptx over bluetooth using the z ultra, I really don't know why.
The bass is distorted and the treble right in my face so irritating, I don't know I thought the aptx would improve sound quality bu it did not, I really wish someone can tell me if the sound quality over bluetooth is device related or buetooth related. As I am getting a great sound using an iPhone and iPad mini but with the z ultra all I get is rubbish sound.
Guys I think I will move on and accept selling my device as that is not acceptable anymore unfortunately i put the phone for sale over a month ago and no one called about it
LORDMANHATTAN I will miss you watching and policing my threads, I think I am done here once someone buys it
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lol... did you contact Sony about it... support should offer you some advice based on their hardware
i think contacting sony is useless
hykhleif said:
i think contacting sony is useless
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You're not really solution based are you? Ios will probably suit you better.
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SpyderTracks said:
You're not really solution based are you? Ios will probably suit you better.
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believe me i tried but this is over my knowledge base
hykhleif said:
believe me i tried but this is over my knowledge base
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dude... take it into a service or Sony shop and ask them... !!
hamdogg said:
have you tried turning off wifi?
Reason I ask is that with wifi on, the max speed bluetooth 4.0 and send/receive is 80kb/s
With wifi off... bluetooth 4.0 can almost get about 200kb/s
remembering that aptX is only supposed to be CD quality sound... i.e. 128kb/s
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I had the LG Tone+ aptx headphones, and I would constantly get garbled bluetooth audio. I exchanged them for BluebudsX that don't have aptx, no more garbled audio. I had a jambox (BT 3.0 I believe and non-aptx) and upgraded to an aptx BT 4.0 speaker, and I'm experiencing garbled audio again. It happens once and awhile and it's annoying considering the quality is much better when it's not stuttering.
I would switch off wifi and I think (placebo?) it would get better. I was thinking maybe bbluetooth and wifi signals were messing with each other, but shouldn't that be a non-issue in 2014?
Are you sure about the Bluetooth bitrate and wifi on/off? Can you link me to something?
BTW, CD quality audio is 320 kb/s. 128 is a pretty heavily compressed mp3.
Let's get clear cd quality is only possible through loseless audio format such as flac, alac or wav just for mention a few ones.
So if you have a mp3 file at 320 kbps is compressed audio in a lossy codec, so it might sound good but it's not cd quality, and definitely sound muchs better than a mp3 file at 128 kbps, the higher the bitrate the better the quality of the sound.
Aptx standard is programmed to work with no loss up to 320 kbps, that means if you use aac at 441 kbps or flac at 1015 kbps it will anyway lose some quality.
Aptx loseless has been released, and it promises in the paper, it will work flawlessly with loseless files.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to use the new aptx loseless, but it might be just marketing....
Sbc is the ordinary codec used in bt audio streaming, and it also depends in versions of the sbc, but i stream audio from my old ipad 3 with no aptx to a lg bt speaker, with no aptx, sound is great, just as good as my xperia z3 streaming to my harman kardon aptx bt speaker.
So... Not a big fan of aptx
On the V30, how can I verify that APTX (or APTX-HD) is active, rather than SBC?
Currently I'm using the APTX Westone BT cable, plan to purchase the Radsone Earstudio (APTX-HD) BT receiver..
Thanks
This is what it looks like but don't blink or you'll miss it. Connected to Sony WH-1000XM2 with connection type set to "Best sound quality" in the V30 bluetooth settings.
zolom said:
On the V30, how can I verify that APTX (or APTX-HD) is active, rather than SBC?
Currently I'm using the APTX Westone BT cable, plan to purchase the Radsone Earstudio (APTX-HD) BT receiver..
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Check whether there is a certain colour blink pattern on the receiver . Whether it offers such a feature
There might even be custom software for the receiver that shows it
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This is what it looks like but don't blink or you'll miss it. Connected to Sony WH-1000XM2 with connection type set to "Best sound quality" in the V30 bluetooth settings.
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Currently using the Westone BT cable (aptx). I can see a short message stating that a Westone BT is connected, but it does not indicate which codec (aptx) nor mention Quallcomm.
qualitymove13 said:
This is what it looks like but don't blink or you'll miss it. Connected to Sony WH-1000XM2 with connection type set to "Best sound quality" in the V30 bluetooth settings.
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I didn't know there was a Bluetooth sound quality setting on the V30. Is it only available when you're connected to a device that supports APTX/HD?
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I didn't know there was a Bluetooth sound quality setting on the V30. Is it only available when you're connected to a device that supports APTX/HD?
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Yes. Any other type of connection and the option is not available.
The Bluetooth connection for aptx for the Sony headphones mentioned is in the “Sony headphones connect” app, there is no setting on the smartphone. One must choose “best sound quality” option in the app to get it.
As far as I know, one cannot get aptx hd until lg smartphones get Oreo. I think the Oneplus 5 has that already so if one uses the appropriate headphones like the Sony then they will have that audio codec. Guess I will find out in the future what difference there is between aptx and aptx hd. Here is hoping at least it is a bit better. The music sound quality is pretty darn impressive with the Sony headphones now so ....
Read below apt x hd
the sony connect app put best sound quality and on the lgv30 bluetooth settings. When you are paired theres a settings button on the right . select best sound quality. Go back to sony connect and apt x will now be apt x hd showing. 48khz 24 bit is the limit of apt x hd at 576kbps. When lgv30 gets oreo . ldac will be available at 990kbps24bit 96khz. The lgv30 3.5mm wired quad dac does it all 32bit 384khz.
So I plugged in the headphones that come with the note 10+, I got an update Firmware for the headphones.
I thought it was pretty awesome they're not simple plug and play USB C units.
Hopefully there's more features added (video camera dual mic recording, etc) to justify their decision to forego the headphone jack.
So...the bundled AKG N700NCM2 wireless headphones...Can't hold a candle to my 2.5 year-old Sennheiser Momentum Wireless 2.0, both in battery life and sound quality. For a capable phone like the Note 10+ I would have expected something that supports BT 5.0 with Aptx or Aptx HD, not the rubbish codecs with these AKG pairs.
A good comparison will be the Bose and Sony sound cancelling headphones. As that's the market they are aimed at.
I have read somewhere that included USB-C earbuds have or might have active noise canceling feature during calls. True, any one tried it?
LordGMLP said:
So...the bundled AKG N700NCM2 wireless headphones...Can't hold a candle to my 2.5 year-old Sennheiser Momentum Wireless 2.0, both in battery life and sound quality. For a capable phone like the Note 10+ I would have expected something that supports BT 5.0 with Aptx or Aptx HD, not the rubbish codecs with these AKG pairs.
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So... The bundled headphones are wired, carry a more pure sound stream than wireless, and come with the phone. I think you're confused, and if you want to talk quality, wireless units won't be as good as wired as they're always dropping packets, or data.
I know this isn't likely but is there any chance features of AKG wireless headphones that are locked to Samsung devices will be ported to other devices? I have a Google Pixel 6 and just got a pair of AKG Y600 full size BT headphones. These support Bixby (Anyone really use Bixby?) and Siri but not Google Assistant. I'm not aheavy GA user but it's handy sometimes. My biggest issue is the UHQ BT codec is locked to Samsung devices.
Overall, I'm happy with these headphones at the current $60 closeout price but I'm pissed at Samsung for these deliberate "lock in" tactics.
You talking about the proprietary Samsung SSC bluetooth codec? It's proprietary to Samsung.
LDAC is the equivalent or better more than likely.
Both are not close to wired headphone audio quality. SSC and LDAC sound pretty good on buds and headphones but they would fall apart in open air listening through stereo drivers. Not enough sound stage.
Yes, it must be SSC. I guess I'm SOL. Sony shares their LDAC codec, why can't Samsung share SSC?
Tim Elliott said:
Yes, it must be SSC. I guess I'm SOL. Sony shares their LDAC codec, why can't Samsung share SSC?
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If you're going to use bluetooth get something that supports LDAC. SBC can sound pretty good if you can use its maximum bandwidth.
If you want SCC get a used N10+ for a good price. You get up to 1tb expandable storage with that. Something both the new Samsung's and Pixel's flagships lack.
The N10+ excels as a portable media server. It's display is still one of the best ever produced. Gets better SOT too. SSC has it's downside too as only Samsung audio devices support it
It's a mess.
My ears aren't really good. I'll probably check these headphones to see how good they can sound by plugging them into the headphone port of my laptop. Of course, if I want to plug them into my Pixel, I will need a USB C to headphone adapter. Thanks for the suggestion of the N10.
Tim Elliott said:
My ears aren't really good. I'll probably check these headphones to see how good they can sound by plugging them into the headphone port of my laptop. Of course, if I want to plug them into my Pixel, I will need a USB C to headphone adapter. Thanks for the suggestion of the N10.
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You're welcome. If you have a direct wire connection option use it when convenient. Make sure the source material is .wav or higher resolution and that highest resolution output from the device is enabled. You will hear the difference. Use some harpsichord music if you really want to test it. Mp3's can't reproduce it well at all
For onboard music libraries Poweramp paid version is still the best player. It has an excellent graphic equalizer to dial the sound in.