graphics in sms - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

does anybody know if you can send or receive graphics through sms with the xda or qtek , surely i could not ?

doubt you can because sms is sendt as a number of chars
not as bin data
maybe it's mms you are looking for it can

Search and you may find
I seem to remember several posts about getting the XDA to be able to do MMS (which will display graphics in messages, although not sure of what format or how good the image is).
This may be something that your network carrier supports and would enable you to do it. It may be what you are looking for it may not.

http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=685&highlight=mms
here it is
though phone company's chage much more for mms then they do sms
or at least they do around these parts

There's also the old Nokia style EMS, with simple sounds and 72x28 monochrome pictures. Pretty useless really, although fun a couple of years ago.

but you need nokia in both ends before it works right ?

An excellent alternative is "SMS Mailer PIM PDA" (fetch it in Handango), but not cheap though

I think it's only supported by Nokias, but the format's pretty simple so coding up a little app to get the XDA to send EMSs wouldn't be too hard. Automatically receiving and recognising them would be trickier due to the abysmal SMS API - but maybe something could be done using RIL.

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Create SMS on PC... Send via Activesync / XDA ???

Is there any software that allows me to create an SMS on my pc and then send via the activesync connection with my XDA in the cradle? I used to have a T68i with software which allowed me to do this via the serial cable and it make s life way easier!
There is no software to do this, but here's what I do... Use the free remote control software from MS to write messages onto the PPC screen with the PC's keyboard, and "tap" using the mouse.
cheers carlos
SmartPhone Studio is what you want!
Search on this site for my thread on SMS Backup XDA II (or similar)
Details there thanks to the other guys.
Great little free program PLUS allows you backup and restore SMS messages!!
Enjoy
Preview - Jeyo Mobile Companion - it rocks!
Hi guys!
I've posted before looking for help with backing up and restoring sms messages. The best was SmartPhone Studio - a freeware program which was designed for smartphones but worked reasonably well with XDA.
Well - that program has been tweaked to a T for XDA and works a dream! I got a legit preview - which naturally I'm not free to pass on here, but it really is the biz!
It connects your PC to your XDA through Activesynch - both USB and Bluetooth work really well - making sending and receiving messages much easier if you're at your desk. There are other programs that do this however this is the first program to have easy, swift, and RELIABLE backup and restore options for your texts.
This means that after a full hard-reset you can get your SMS inbox and sent folders back to exactly the way they were. You can also back up the entire folders as text documents in case you prefer to archive them as a continuous document. It is exactly the program I was waiting for and, judging by other posts here I know there'll be many others interested.
It runs long messages together as one continuous message, (though naturally your network will tot up the math!). It has a very nifty interface with your Outlook contacts, and a basic display of system information, memory power etc. The style is very snazzy and professionally-understated.
I have no idea what the price will be but it will be retailed through handango.com I believe. I gather release is within days.
If you like texting, and don't like the idea of losing them after a hard re-set, you'll love Jeyo Mobile Companion.
No, I am not on commission!
Best regards to all
Conor
Preview - Jeyo Mobile Companion - it rocks!
Hi guys!
I've posted before looking for help with backing up and restoring sms messages. The best was SmartPhone Studio - a freeware program which was designed for smartphones but worked reasonably well with XDA.
Well - that program has been tweaked to a T for XDA and works a dream! I got a legit preview - which naturally I'm not free to pass on here, but it really is the biz!
It connects your PC to your XDA through Activesynch - both USB and Bluetooth work really well - making sending and receiving messages much easier if you're at your desk. There are other programs that do this however this is the first program to have easy, swift, and RELIABLE backup and restore options for your texts.
This means that after a full hard-reset you can get your SMS inbox and sent folders back to exactly the way they were. You can also back up the entire folders as text documents in case you prefer to archive them as a continuous document. It is exactly the program I was waiting for and, judging by other posts here I know there'll be many others interested.
It runs long messages together as one continuous message, (though naturally your network will tot up the math!). It has a very nifty interface with your Outlook contacts, and a basic display of system information, memory power etc. The style is very snazzy and professionally-understated.
I have no idea what the price will be but it will be retailed through handango.com I believe. I gather release is within days.
If you like texting, and don't like the idea of losing them after a hard re-set, you'll love Jeyo Mobile Companion.
No, I am not on commission!
Best regards to all
Conor

Why is there no CLEAN/LEAN/STABLE builds?!

Sorry to make a whole new thread about this, but just curious if anyone else has been having this 'issue'
ive flashed quite a few of the roms on the forums, and for some strange reason, i cant seem to find a rom which just WORKS
the main thing i use my handset for is email and SMS messaging, in any given month easily 4000+ SMS' will be sent and the same number received.
this for some reason appears to 'break' a lot of the rom's
the phone slow's riiiight down and when exiting one conversation to go to the next, it hangs every single time, when i go to select the messaging application, it just hangs, or doesnt even go in at all.
i've used the Energy roms, the Chrome roms, Da_G's clean rom, NATF's roms
i've been through pretty much all of the rom's on here and they ALL break once the SMS count gets in the 3000+ region, and i appreciate its simple to just 'delete' the messages, but this isnt particularly practical, at the moment i'm having to hard reset every month or so and this really takes the piss
can anyone point me in the direction of a nice lean rom that can handle an obscene amount of SMS' and emails?
with thanks
I guess no one send and receive 4000+ SMS' per month except you
that's why nobody tried to check with this issue
but the phone should be able to handle it! i mean, one of my older nokia's can handle the 4000+ with ease
The microsoft SMS program just cannot handle that many of messages. Either back them up (remove from inbox) periodically, or delete them periodically.
you may want to disable sms conversation (threading).
just out of curiosity, why do you need 4000+ sms a month ?
one question... where are your messages stored? in phone memory or on the storage card?
Pampilius86 said:
one question... where are your messages stored? in phone memory or on the storage card?
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for the email, the attachments are stored on storage card
otherwise, i never knew we could change where SMS's are stored?!
the 4000+ sms's are just what i use tbh, thats on a good month tho, usually hovers around that mark however
i remember back in the wizard/hermes time clean rom's were all the rage, now, since we've got the devices with huge amounts of ram/rom all we're seeing is bloated rom's!
bursucul said:
you may want to disable sms conversation (threading).
just out of curiosity, why do you need 4000+ sms a month ?
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the thing is, i use the threading facility a LOT, back before wm6/6.1 i actually had an application i would install on my ppc to have the SMS' threaded
but to be honest, why should the tp not be able to handle that many SMS's without slowing down?!
duke_stix said:
Sorry to make a whole new thread about this, but just curious if anyone else has been having this 'issue'
ive flashed quite a few of the roms on the forums, and for some strange reason, i cant seem to find a rom which just WORKS
the main thing i use my handset for is email and SMS messaging, in any given month easily 4000+ SMS' will be sent and the same number received.
this for some reason appears to 'break' a lot of the rom's
the phone slow's riiiight down and when exiting one conversation to go to the next, it hangs every single time, when i go to select the messaging application, it just hangs, or doesnt even go in at all.
i've used the Energy roms, the Chrome roms, Da_G's clean rom, NATF's roms
i've been through pretty much all of the rom's on here and they ALL break once the SMS count gets in the 3000+ region, and i appreciate its simple to just 'delete' the messages, but this isnt particularly practical, at the moment i'm having to hard reset every month or so and this really takes the piss
can anyone point me in the direction of a nice lean rom that can handle an obscene amount of SMS' and emails?
with thanks
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I dont think this would be the ROMs fault. You see the more messages you store in your fone the less memory and stability it has. Instead of having old messages in your fone why not delete them? Talk about practicality, whats practical about having old messages in ur fone just to take up excess memory? So someone texts u one question, u answer it and have no intentions of messaging them back, yet its more practical to keep these messages in ur fone and then complain that u have to hard reset instead of deleting a few messages due to having all these redundant mesages that u really dont need? Seems to me an intelligent person would rather delete a few messages rather than hard resetting their device and lose everything. Maybe u can make a fresh ROM with no extras and nothing more than a fone and an email device. I mean, why have a PDA if all ur gonna do is text and email? Seems to me u can save a few hundred bux and just get a cheap lil fone that has no customization whatsoever to leave all the room for messaging? Sorry if I sound like I have an attitude, honestly I dont, I just think that the chefs u mentioned have awesome ROMs that keep getting better and better yet u diss them cuz ud rather hard resest and lose everything rather than simply deleting a few hundred messages that u dont need anyway.
It's like if you don't clean your house regularly and just throw your rubbish everywhere, then you complain that you're living in a pig sty and your house fills up with rubbish so fast you can't move around the house as quickly as you used to. Then after a month, you need to fully renovate the whole interior of the house again so that you have space to walk...
My suggestions :
1) start learning some housekeeping(make that little effort to delete the sms yourself)
2) get a bigger house (new phone with more ram and faster CPU)
3) get a cleaner to come in to clean your rubbish once in awhile (there might be some sms program out there that can auto delete your sms on a regular basis)
4) or reorganise the layout of your house so that it's more efficient (forget about sms threading and use the conventional format, I'm sure it'll speed things up a bit since it doesn't have to load the entire conversation everytime)
duke_stix said:
but the phone should be able to handle it! i mean, one of my older nokia's can handle the 4000+ with ease
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Is your older nokia using sms threading and displaying the whole history of the conversation everytime you enter the inbox?
I highly doubt it.. so you've got your answer there already.
I used to be a project manager, I would send about 500 emails a day at work easily. After a month of working it would take FOREVER to open outlook. Thats because it has to load the entire contents of 10k + emails. Its the same with your phone. Back up and delete or don't complain. Flash a stock ROM and open your windows folder, and then flash a custom ROM and do the same. you will see the speed increase there. Also, if you leave SMS open and just hit end key it wont have to reload everything every time you open a message.
I have the same problem that your talking about since i average about 7-12K a month of sms.. Like everyone said the only way to deal with it is just to clear your inbox or put it to unthreaded.. Our phones just werent meant to hold that much sms i suppose..
duke_stix said:
the main thing i use my handset for is email and SMS messaging, in any given month easily 4000+ SMS' will be sent and the same number received.
this for some reason appears to 'break' a lot of the rom's
the phone slow's riiiight down and when exiting one conversation to go to the next, it hangs every single time, when i go to select the messaging application, it just hangs, or doesnt even go in at all.
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I believe most of the problem here is that you don't precisely understand what's going on behind-the-scenes. Your CPU/processor is only capable of running a single instruction at once- and thus only process a finite amount of data per unit time.
When designing an algorithm (in this case, the algorithm that reads SMS/E-mail database entries and displays them onscreen), tasks which apply to more than one or two items are usually completed by either iteration or recursion. For a task such as enumerating SMS messages onscreen, the process would be iterative; for example, if you were to break it down into simple steps, those steps might be:
1. Read the current SMS message from the database.
2. Display it on screen.
3. If there's another text message after this, repeat this process for it.
Step 1 itself actually is composed of several detailed steps, which take the time to perform a second algorithm, which tries to locate the current SMS message in the database, usually based on a unique identifier and a hashing algorithm. This takes time, but is faster than the alternative- which is to check each SMS and ask "is this the one I want?". Instead of having to check each message, the device usually only has to check a few until it finds the right location.
You can think of this as the device automatically categorizing messages into virtual 'boxes'- you have to spend a hell of a lot less time digging through a box to find 1 document out of 10 then by searching through a much larger heap of 4000 documents.
Step 3 is also composed of several steps, as the device has to figure out which SMS message is really next. As the user is capable of configuring the way in which the messages are sorted (by date, sender, etc.), the message that's next in the database is probably not the next message that's stored in the database. Time has to be spend finding the message, usually by yet another algorithm.
The problem is, each of these steps, and each of their sub-steps, and each of the sub-steps required to run those (all the way down to the machine code level) take time, and each have to be executed for every message the application would like to display.
Thread-view further complicates the matter by creating additional relations between the messages, and requiring the OS to look for even more posts during each step.
And this process isn't all that's going on at once- the operating system is trying to do something called TDM, or Time-Division Multiplexing (Multitasking), which allow you to run more than one program at once on a single CPU (which in turn can only do one thing at once). This basically lets the individual processes take individual turns so quickly that they seem simultaneous.
Because of all this, computer scientists rate their algorithms by degradation. We actually have a measure called Big-O (asymptotic) notation that tells you how well an algorithm handles load.
A good algorithm generally has performance of O(N) or better. This means that for every N elements (in your case, e-mail), it takes approximately N iterations to complete. Note the assumption that each "base iteration" executes in a (roughly) fixed time.
Assuming the WM message app uses a sensible algorithm (and it would be difficult for it not to), we can assume its efficiency is approximately O(N)- as it is simply O(N) for non-threaded, and it is O((N/S) * S) for threaded, which simplifies to O(N). This means that for every 4000 messages, it will need to iterate 4000 times.
Considering the application can't store 4000-messages worth of data, it spends a lot of time during each iteration moving messages in and out of memory.
Given all of this, the Windows Mobile message parsing algorithm is the cause of your 'slowness' and 'hangups'. These periods of non-responsiveness are simply WM trying to run through the algorithm for all of the huge quantities of messages.
Hence, the problem is that Windows Mobile simply wasn't designed to bear the load you were forcing it to bear. This means the problem isn't related to the implementation in any given ROM.
can anyone point me in the direction of a nice lean rom that can handle an obscene amount of SMS' and emails?
with thanks
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A ROM isn't going to be your solution- every ROM uses the same core Windows Mobile messaging applications.
It is possible that a combination of a data structure and message parsing algorithm (with the addition of hash and cache optimized for the way you specifically use messaging) could handle all of these messages without any considerable degradation; but it would run far less efficiently on small amount of messages than the current WM scheme. (And think: how many users have as many messages as you?)
Since no one really needs as many messages as you seem to, consider your options:
1) Implement a database optimized for large amount of messages. Implement a program that hooks all messages and places them in this database instead of the WM one. Write your own message reading/writing application and use in place of the WM one. Note that no one will do this for you. It's not a public interest: if you want it, you'll have to write it. We can help you- but we're not here to do the work for you.
2) Try a third party SMS reader/writer like Vito SMS-Chat. I don't think these will fare much better (in fact, they may fare worse), but if they implement any database of their own and any type of localized caching (especially of recent messages), they may work a bit better.
3) Remove your older SMS messages. This is probably the best option. If you don't need those messages anymore, a Microsoft applet called InboxExtender adds buttons to delete all messages (and to mark them all as read.)
4) Don't use threaded mode. This will decrease the time each parsing iteration takes.
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This isn't a bug; nor is it a glitch, nor is it WM being crappy. It's much the same as if you tell photoshop to open an 8GB file on your desktop. Your computer may slow to a halt and take forever doing it- but the cause isn't that your computer is crappy, but rather that you're trying to open such a huge file.
Wow! Talk about a detailed explanation. Great explanation ktemkin, u obviously know what ur talkin about. Im actually a part time computer programmer. The biggest problem I see/hear about is people sayng their systems are getting way too slow. No surprise that the biggest reason for this is the used space in their computers hard drive for out-of-date programs, used cache space, ...basically all of the things theyve used before and just never cleaned out. I install 1 program, free their computer up of its junked up memory and update their programs. On this I get credit to simply sit on my butt and delete a few things, lol. Id suppose regardless of the device/computer its all the same. IE, the more room u have to work with, the faster the device's responsiveness is.
Best advice for these PDAs and smartphones for emails is dont leave all of your emails in your inbox folder. Make different folders, then as u go through your emails simply move the selected ones to the selected folders. Then DO NOT sync all of your folders to your device. Only sync the inbox to your device. Then if u ever need a message, u will know which folder its in, then sync that 1 folder, download the message(s), then after ur done, remove that folder from your sync list. When u organize your emails this way u will have a much enjoyable and longer life experience with your device. Hope this helps.
panthersdzynes said:
I dont think this would be the ROMs fault. You see the more messages you store in your fone the less memory and stability it has. Instead of having old messages in your fone why not delete them? Talk about practicality, whats practical about having old messages in ur fone just to take up excess memory? So someone texts u one question, u answer it and have no intentions of messaging them back, yet its more practical to keep these messages in ur fone and then complain that u have to hard reset instead of deleting a few messages due to having all these redundant mesages that u really dont need? Seems to me an intelligent person would rather delete a few messages rather than hard resetting their device and lose everything. Maybe u can make a fresh ROM with no extras and nothing more than a fone and an email device. I mean, why have a PDA if all ur gonna do is text and email? Seems to me u can save a few hundred bux and just get a cheap lil fone that has no customization whatsoever to leave all the room for messaging? Sorry if I sound like I have an attitude, honestly I dont, I just think that the chefs u mentioned have awesome ROMs that keep getting better and better yet u diss them cuz ud rather hard resest and lose everything rather than simply deleting a few hundred messages that u dont need anyway.
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The fact of the matter is, that a lot of the messages on my handset DO need to remain on there for at least the remainder of a fortnight following receipt of said message.
the only 'qualm' i was having was that my older wizard and hermes devices seem to have managed that number of SMS' and more perfectly fine, but my Raphael begins to struggle.
lukesky said:
It's like if you don't clean your house regularly and just throw your rubbish everywhere, then you complain that you're living in a pig sty and your house fills up with rubbish so fast you can't move around the house as quickly as you used to. Then after a month, you need to fully renovate the whole interior of the house again so that you have space to walk...
My suggestions :
1) start learning some housekeeping(make that little effort to delete the sms yourself)
2) get a bigger house (new phone with more ram and faster CPU)
3) get a cleaner to come in to clean your rubbish once in awhile (there might be some sms program out there that can auto delete your sms on a regular basis)
4) or reorganise the layout of your house so that it's more efficient (forget about sms threading and use the conventional format, I'm sure it'll speed things up a bit since it doesn't have to load the entire conversation everytime)
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I have already tried disabling the SMS threading and although it speeds it up a little, i then also lose track of what message has come from whom.
i understand that 'doing a bit of house keeping' is what i should be doing, however, i barely have time to do said house keeping, and when i do attempt to delete a large volume of messages in one go the phone hangs on me again!
panthersdzynes said:
Wow! Talk about a detailed explanation. Great explanation ktemkin, u obviously know what ur talkin about. Im actually a part time computer programmer. The biggest problem I see/hear about is people sayng their systems are getting way too slow. No surprise that the biggest reason for this is the used space in their computers hard drive for out-of-date programs, used cache space, ...basically all of the things theyve used before and just never cleaned out. I install 1 program, free their computer up of its junked up memory and update their programs. On this I get credit to simply sit on my butt and delete a few things, lol. Id suppose regardless of the device/computer its all the same. IE, the more room u have to work with, the faster the device's responsiveness is.
Best advice for these PDAs and smartphones for emails is dont leave all of your emails in your inbox folder. Make different folders, then as u go through your emails simply move the selected ones to the selected folders. Then DO NOT sync all of your folders to your device. Only sync the inbox to your device. Then if u ever need a message, u will know which folder its in, then sync that 1 folder, download the message(s), then after ur done, remove that folder from your sync list. When u organize your emails this way u will have a much enjoyable and longer life experience with your device. Hope this helps.
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my emails are already pretty much organised, and i've only got it syncing the last 7 days for me, emails to be honest are fine its moreso the SMS side of things.
I was not complaining nor targetting any particular chef, i was merely voicing my concern that a device as powerful as the raphael seems to baulk at the prospect of a few thousand messages when the older wizard and hermes seem to manage perfectly fine.
i'm not exactly expecting an instantaneous loading of my inbox, i'm not entirely thick, i appreciate that having such a large number of SMS' will inevitably slow the handset down, however, i do not see why the handset should HANG when i try to open the messaging application, or why, when i try to go and open the messaging application it just doesnt register that i've asked it to open the application, just stops and i have to 'tap' it a few times before it opens.
duke_stix said:
the main thing i use my handset for is email and SMS messaging, in any given month easily 4000+ SMS' will be sent and the same number received.
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4000+ sms' send AND receive???
so that means:
8000 per month / 30 days in a month = 266,667 per day
266,667 per day / 960 minutes (16 hours * 60) awake a day = 0,278
so say you are 16 hours awake on a day than you send/receive a sms every 15 seconds?? don't you have a real life?
TheWeird1 said:
4000+ sms' send AND receive???
so that means:
8000 per month / 30 days in a month = 266,667 per day
266,667 per day / 960 minutes (16 hours * 60) awake a day = 0,278
so say you are 16 hours awake on a day than you send/receive a sms every 15 seconds?? don't you have a real life?
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not all of the messages that are sent and received are single SMS' long!
majority, if not all will be 3/4+ messages long and the replies can be twice as long
duke_stix said:
The fact of the matter is, that a lot of the messages on my handset DO need to remain on there for at least the remainder of a fortnight following receipt of said message.
the only 'qualm' i was having was that my older wizard and hermes devices seem to have managed that number of SMS' and more perfectly fine, but my Raphael begins to struggle.
I have already tried disabling the SMS threading and although it speeds it up a little, i then also lose track of what message has come from whom.
i understand that 'doing a bit of house keeping' is what i should be doing, however, i barely have time to do said house keeping, and when i do attempt to delete a large volume of messages in one go the phone hangs on me again!
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1 thing's for sure, the wizard and hermes are definitely non-threaded sms. But it's hard to compare apple to apple. Did you have 4000 in your Inbox and Sent folders on your Wizard and Hermes too?
I don't think the phone has hung, it's probably doing the processing for you. Have a little patience and let it sit there for awhile and do it's thing and see if it's really hanged.
duke_stix said:
my emails are already pretty much organised, and i've only got it syncing the last 7 days for me, emails to be honest are fine its moreso the SMS side of things.
I was not complaining nor targetting any particular chef, i was merely voicing my concern that a device as powerful as the raphael seems to baulk at the prospect of a few thousand messages when the older wizard and hermes seem to manage perfectly fine.
i'm not exactly expecting an instantaneous loading of my inbox, i'm not entirely thick, i appreciate that having such a large number of SMS' will inevitably slow the handset down, however, i do not see why the handset should HANG when i try to open the messaging application, or why, when i try to go and open the messaging application it just doesnt register that i've asked it to open the application, just stops and i have to 'tap' it a few times before it opens.
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Maybe you should try Da_G's test ROM.. the feedback is that it's very fast. If that doesn't work for you, it's time to get a new phone.. maybe consider one of the 1GHZ models...
i have 8000 plus messages on my tp n it doesn't slow down
thing is, i don't use threaded sms. can't get used to it cos i've been using wm since wm5 n it doesn't have it. i guess i got used to the older stuff

[Q] A70S as a mobile phone with UrukDroid?

Hi everybody,
I have a question (or a functionality proposal?) for UrukDroid.
I have a smarphone and an Archos 70IT, but i was asking myself if, with a 3G dongle and some mods, my Archos can do all these things? And if it's possible, how? And if it isn't could I help for it?
Thanks for future answer, and keep up the good work
No, because almost all Data-3G-Sticks have no support for the calling protocols, just data and sometimes SMS...
OK, may be is not all you want... but
maybe yo can... not like mobile, but yes like sip.
with a sip provider, and Fring, you just have got a telephone !!!!!!!
=;-)
@N23, Aouch, so bad, so i can't
So i have to do an app who will allow me to write my SMS with my tablet and send them from my phone (HTC Wildfire)
@julen164, yes, good idea, but that's not what i want :s
if you want SMS service aswell....
voxigo it is a voip service with sms too
=;-)
No, i want to send my SMS from my phone (i'm unlimited ^^)
(I think i'll have to make an app for that, so ... i'll do ^^)
I don't unerstand you.
what you want?
if you want a telephone service + sms service in your A70,
voxigo has an android app, running like a voip telephone, and you can send sms too, with that app, so you have a full telephone (VOiP) in your A70.
If you want to send SMS, with your actual telephone (mobile) number, send it with your actual mobile.
In any case, some other voip services, like voipcheap, can send sms with an associated mobile number as sender id.
what else?
=;-)
I want to replace my mobile phone with my tablet (bigger screen).
But if i can't replace all its functions, i want to write my sms with the tablet (bigger screen again)
Is that clearer?
Just now,
I understand your specs......
I have read again your post...
Now I think I understand your necs...
and maybe this app can help you....
http://es.androlib.com/android.application.pl-androiddev-mobiletab-qEttt.aspx
with it, you can conect to your mobile with wifi, fron your A70, and then use your mobile line, to send SMS....
Thats it, no?
It could do the job, but it's a little bit to heavy.
An home made apps would be lighter, an app that will connect the SMSManager from the phone to the tablet, then i just need an app like Handcent and it's done (that's what i hope, i'll try and see ^^)
eagleofdeath13 said:
It could do the job, but it's a little bit to heavy.
An home made apps would be lighter, an app that will connect the SMSManager from the phone to the tablet, then i just need an app like Handcent and it's done (that's what i hope, i'll try and see ^^)
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there is an app that does sms over bluetooth or wifi I think, but I can't recall what it is or if it works between two android devices or only works between your android device and a pc. I know there's a pc to android tool but I have a feeling there's another one which tethers two android devices to do sms.
Pretty sure I'm right cuz I used it on my hero tethered to my galaxy tab (when I still owned a tab).
EDIT: here it is: http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-grrzzz-remotesmsfull-qFij.aspx
I think it has an http server so you can sms over a web browser (which should, in theory, let you do so from your archos - but not the ideal interface for sure).
PM me if you want to discuss the app further since I have it here.
EDIT 2: Never mind! it requires that the phone and controlling device (tablet) be on a wifi network already. I don't know if it would work with an ad-hoc network between the two since I can't ad-hoc on my a101 yet. So this might not be what you need, but I think it's the closest app so far. someone actually posted a comment about it saying that they should write an android client for it too for tablet use. So it seems you and I aren't the only ones who want to do sms from the bigger tablet screen compared to our little phone screens!
Yes the web interface is not the fastest for that (and Android have something to control SMS, so why not using it?). I think the DIY is the best (and, with that i'll learn more about dev on Android ^^)

[Q] How do I disable threaded SMS?

Does anyone know how I can disable threaded SMS? I absolutely hate "conversation" view, and just want the classic chronological list of all messages.
I tried Handcent, but I don't see an option to do it there, either.
Can anyone help?
I would suggest returning your phone and buying a flip gophone.
But seriously, I heard SMS Composer is a non-threaded SMS app.
Edit: I checked, yes it is.
I thought I remembered reading some unpleasant things about that app - I don't remember if it had to do with stability, lack of functionality, or something shady - but it caused me to write that off.
I'll be honest, I'm rather shocked that there isn't more support for this. I've certainly seen enough other people asking for the same thing.
On older Windows Mobile phones, you could change a registry setting to disable threaded SMS and revert to classic mode.
Is there something similar that can be done with Android? Or does an app need to specifically be coded for this?
GO SMS Pro
settings, Appearance, conversation customization, conversation style, list style
make sure when you launch GO SMS Pro you are running full mode (dont worry, it will ask you)
The app has to be coded for it. And SMS Composer has a good rating on App Brain. I don't see anything shady about it, really, and it worked while I tested it for a few minutes. I will admit I didn't get too into it though.
Edit: Seems there is another app called SMS Tray that does it, but I don't believe it is free and the Lite edition is a timed trial.
I don't mind paying, if it's worth it. Thanks for the reference, I'll have a look.

[Q] Why is there no desktop SMS app for Android?

I mean a GOOD app, which means it needs to support delivery reports - I need to know the SMS I sent with it has been received.
That is the most crucial function and the lack of it makes the following apps completely useless to me:
- MightyText
- AirDroid
- DeskSMS
I am baffled how their developers can keep them on the market since years without this function.
The only exception is/was EasySMS, but it is very old, slow, no longer developed and it doesn't work on Android 4.4 (and some stock 4.2 roms). It still works on CM-based 4.3 roms, though.
I'm answering my own question here in hope it will help someone else, too.
After 3 years (no joke), I finally found the solution: mySMS. It comes with an sms app for the phone, but you can keep using your old favourite sms app and the remote sms with delivery reports will still work (as long as mysms is installed).
Plus, the phone does not need to be connected to the internet when you're writing the message. It will be sent as soon as the phone goes online. Excellent.
Now, the only thing I am waiting for is delivery time deport, so that I know when exactly the message was received. They are very responsive on their idea/problem/suggestion forum so I am relatively hopeful.
But for now, I am happy with it as it.
Yet I am still surprised this is the only app that does that.
And to all of the zounds of people who for the last two years were being consistently ignored by MightyText developers - here's your solution!

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