Hi
My PDA2K cradle will charge my PDA2K fine via USB without the power adapter being connected.
What I need to know is if it will also charge the spare battery?
Does anyone know?
Does anyone HAVE a spare battery, they seem to be like hens teeth.
Robin
If it's the same as the XDA II dock then no, it won't charge the spare without the mains supply.
You need external power for spare battery.
I agree with Cruisin-thru.
It definitely does not charge the second battery when using the USB connection. I've already found this out the hard way....
T
Test for yourself. Cradle plugged into the mains and USB with ONLY the spare battery inserted - light on the front right hand side glows (Orange M200 cradle). Unplug the mains light goes out.
Voila!
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Good morning !
I have bought a Qtek 9090 and a retractable Ziplinq USB cable.
I can sync my device, but I am unable to charge the main battery with it.
Does anyone know something about it ?
Thank you.
Could be a faulty cable. If it doesn't work after a soft-reset, I would send it back...
Best Regards,
Mr.G
maximum current draw from usb is 500 milliamps, xda2s takes twice this to charge
Same Problem with PDA2k
I bought a similar USB retractable cable for my smartphone and it was working perfectly, charging and sync'n. When the PDA2k was released, I had one of the first ones, and I could only top up the charge if it was about 75% charged, anything below that would drain at the normal rate.
I am not sure it is the USB current, as I was in Singapore the other day, testing a BlueTooth GPS device with my PDA2k, which was running at lower than 30% charge, the shop keeper offer me a USB sync/charge cable to keep running, and it worked!
I don't quite understand what happened but I suspect that the current of the USB outlet was the main cause.
Hi to all knowledgeble folks
My wizard on 02.
Will not charge thru usb, the battery was at about 12%
when i connected it to the pc the orange charge light came on, i left it
be now I ve just come back to it and theres nothing i cant use the mains adapter coz its at work my usb is a mains powered hub
any ideas :roll:
Hi, the usb has not enough output to charge wizard when its dead. You need the mains charger i am afraid. Even then you have to leave it connected for quite a while before the light comes on. Some people have had success with a car charger if you have one.
If you've got a spare usb cable you can cut the plug off, put the + / - wires against the relevant points on the battery, and leave it for 15 minutes. Should give you enough charge to boot the OS, at which point the USB connection will charge it.
Worked for me.
Contacting the battery terminals for just 2-3 minutes will give it enough charge to start up and give you time to place the USB charger on it to continue and complete the charge.
This is a fix that really works. Much cheaper than getting a new wall charger.
Oh, and (usually) the red usb cable is positive, the black negative. But I take no liability if your battery (or the PC) goes pop!
wizard wont charge thru usb it does now
:lol: :lol: :lol: meschle Webreaper jschaff
Your all stars i did the trick with the cut usb cable works a treat
Many MAny thanks
I purchased a new vent holder with a car charger, and it charges the phone up OK when it is off, but if it is on it says charging but does not actually charge. This is especially annoying with Satnav and after an hour or two the phone dies and I don't know where I am going!
Anyone know what causes this? I guess it can't provide enough power for the device, especially when using the internal GPS, but I think it doesn't even keep up with the device is just turned on.
I am getting another charger just in case, but never had the problem on my old Touch....
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try -> start/settings/system tab/power/battery tab - uncheck the box "when the device is turned on...."
It isn't ticked...
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try ticking it..
That will have the opposite effect, it charges fine when plugged into the wall, the problem is something to do with the car.
Does anyone use satnav on a touch HD and have it charge at the same time?
Well there could be one or two issues.
On the USB port there are four connections, a positive and a negative and two data pins. When you plug your Touch HD into a PC power is supplied down the power pins and after negotiating with the USB controller chip over the two data pins the phone will pull up-to 500mA from the power supply to run and charge the phone. This is so the USB port on the PC is not damaged by the phone overloading the power supply to the port.
Without the negotiation with the USB controller chip the device will only charge at 100mA.
But 500mA is not enough to charge the phone with everything running, you will need at least 1000mA to do that (1 Ampere). So that is what your wall charger pushes out. But how does the phone know it can charge at a higher rate? Well inside the charger the data pins on the USB connector are wired in a way that the phone 'sees' that a higher current is available, and pulls a higher charging current.
So what you need is a minimum current 1 Amp car charger. If you already have a 1 Amp then the chances are that is does not have the data pins connected properly and the phone will not draw the higher current, meaning it will only charge at 100mA.
Thanks, I am going to try another one and see if that helps, perhaps it is just faulty, otherwise I will check if it is 1Amp.
Cheers.
I contacted the seller and they sent me a new one, which works. So it turns it my charger was just faulty.
What's the rating of the new one? and where did you get it from. I bought a 2amp (supposedly) but it doesn't give me more than 500mA.
I've had this problem and it sucks! As I'm always out on the road. But I have found a few solutions. I purchased a mini usb charger from asda for £6. After adjusting the backlight to medium this charger seems to keep the power level the same as it was before you plugged it in, so It doesn't let the battery go flat. I've now learnt to keep a spare charged battery in the car just in case it fails.
So, bought the following cradle from DayDeal's ebay store:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350284094212
The product description says the following:
* Custom-fitted Docking Cradle
* USB connection/charging cable
* AC power adapter
* Stylus
Now the issue is with the second line. What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable. All of this leads to the unit being grossly undercharged and therefore, complains that there is not enough charge coming from the power source and that you need to shut down and therefore the whole idea of a wall charger is useless after this.
WHY would a sync/charge USB cable which by the way is physically attached to the unit and cannot be removed, while the wall jack plugs into a proprietary mini-USB cable. I know it's proprietary because I tried first to use the wall charging cable that came with my TP2 from Sprint.
So, I'd recommend not buying this cradle unless you want to do what I'm doing now, have a USB sync/charge cable dangling from the unit and NOT plugged into the computer, but instead only plug in the wall charger and sync and data transfer via USB which is what I was doing before except now, I have a cradle to do it in.
Not a good trade-off to me. I bought this specifically to be able to sync/charge FROM the cradle.
One last thing, don't think about using the cradle if you have a skin or a hard case on the phone. The connector is so flush with the back of the charging stand that if you try to put anything BUT the phone into the stand it can't connect.
EDIT: December 5, 2009:
Been in touch with the vendor. They are going to swap out this unit for another one. They say that the unit doesn't do this at their site and that this one may be defective. I'll gladly swap this one out for one that works as unstated or at least expected. I'll post when I've gotten the new unit if this is actually a defective first unit or if this is the actual way these units work. And, I'll also try this on multiple machines so that I know it's not just my home desktop.
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
That's good info. It is the exact cradle I bought, but i bought it just for charging. I have not used it for connecting to the PC yet, but i needed a cradle that had a slot for a battery in it too.
wpbear said:
Another bad cradle from ebay DELUXE CRADLE W/2nd Battery Slot FOR HTC TOUCH PRO 2
When AC plugged in and USB to PC the PC USB sucks the power so the phone charges slow or not at all. Also doenst seem safe for the USB to send the power back out to the PC from the cheapo AC plug in this cradle. When used as a standalone charger AC only it sometimes fails to charge, about a 50-50 success rate. Stay away from it.
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That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
dahauss said:
That the one I have as well. I also have not use it for my computer.. All I really wanted was a cradle for my nightstand that had an additional battery charging slot as I also bought some of those $10 200mah batteries to try (have not received them yet)
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200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
jonrobertd said:
200mA or 2000mA? Got a link please? Sorry for off topic.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390130739877
2000mah
I purchased this cradle and my complaint has to do with the USB cable that is attached to cradle. I need a long line to reach back of my PC. This attached one does not reach unless I want to view the phone from 5' away! Very disappointed. I've only had it a few days but didn't know this, sanjsrik:
What is NOT explained here is that the unit when plugged IN to a wall jack AND the sync charge cable is plugged in to your computer, the sync/charge cable gets no more power from the wall jack and wants to get it from ONLY the sync/charge USB cable."
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It does seem slow to charge but I'll run a couple of tests to confirm.
Hi I want to ask for help. I bought my htc touch pro 2 T 7373 from ebey but only phone with no charger.I bought HTC Power Supply model: TC P300 output: 5V-1A LPS Pin 1+ , Pin 4- .When I put it to charge , phone indicates to charge ,but battery does not charge.Battery is new and I dont think the problem is it.I want to ask you if this charger is compatible with HTC TOUCH PRO 2 T7373.
russslannn said:
Hi I want to ask for help. I bought my htc touch pro 2 T 7373 from ebey but only phone with no charger.I bought HTC Power Supply model: TC P300 output: 5V-1A LPS Pin 1+ , Pin 4- .When I put it to charge , phone indicates to charge ,but battery does not charge.Battery is new and I dont think the problem is it.I want to ask you if this charger is compatible with HTC TOUCH PRO 2 T7373.
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Just use a miniUSB cable and plug it into your computer. Any USB wall charger should work. I've used iPhone USB chragers with a miniUSB cable, Nikon camera chargers, as well as a Motorola one. You just need to plug it into any USB port either on a wall or on your computer. Leave the device off while it charges overnight.
Problem with charged
I use both ways but no result , phone indicates to charged but battery not charging.Charger is original and consists of two parts: the charger and mini usb cable .When i run it sometimes on the displays show this message : The charging current is not enough for device power consumption.Please shut down unused applications , or switch to AC adapter. And I do not use any applications. I tried to load phone in the off position , indicates that the charger is ON but the battery is not charging .Please help if someone has the same problem
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I use both ways but no result , phone indicates to charged but battery not charging.Charger is original and consists of two parts: the charger and mini usb cable .When i run it sometimes on the displays show this message : The charging current is not enough for device power consumption.Please shut down unused applications , or switch to AC adapter. And I do not use any applications. I tried to load phone in the off position , indicates that the charger is ON but the battery is not charging .Please help if someone has the same problem
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Try it with a different miniUSB cable. If you don't have one handy, miniUSB cables go for pennies on Amazon or eBay. You can find them in retail stores for about 10 dollars or so as well. If the cable isn't the problem, then it is either a problem with the charge port on the device, or the battery. It's far cheaper to trouble shoot the cable, so let's just start with that.
Sound like the charger is insufficient power, even though it says 1A. Try charging from a computer USB port and see if it charges. HTC don't list TP2 as suitable for this charger.
I am also facing same problem. LED shows charging but phone does not charge. And when I insert charger "USB TO PC" page shows up, Like I have connected the phone to PC.
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I just had an issue charging which turned out to be an easy fix.
The led would come on and the icon would show charging but it wasn't increasing the battery %. Then I would get a message about the power not being enough and to plug it into a charger. I tried several chargers and was getting the same thing happening. I blew a few puffs into the charging port which looked clean and it was still happening. I wiggled the cable/plug in the port and occassionally the charging light would go on and off. The charging led even started to go on and off with the phone just sitting still on my table. I feared that my charging port had gone bad so I ordered 2 spare batteries and battery charger from ebay for $10 (works well and battery life good).
While waiting for the ebay purchase to arrive I did some reading up and saw that pins could be bent etc. In my fustration I used a pair of tweezers to gently scrape the charging port pins/contacts (in a straight direction). Then I used an old toothbrush and firmly brushed out the usb port - a whole bunch of lint and stuff come out of the port even though it had previously looked clean.
I plugged in my charger and bingo! My charging issue was gone.
ukexport said:
I just had an issue charging which turned out to be an easy fix.
The led would come on and the icon would show charging but it wasn't increasing the battery %. Then I would get a message about the power not being enough and to plug it into a charger. I tried several chargers and was getting the same thing happening. I blew a few puffs into the charging port which looked clean and it was still happening. I wiggled the cable/plug in the port and occassionally the charging light would go on and off. The charging led even started to go on and off with the phone just sitting still on my table. I feared that my charging port had gone bad so I ordered 2 spare batteries and battery charger from ebay for $10 (works well and battery life good).
While waiting for the ebay purchase to arrive I did some reading up and saw that pins could be bent etc. In my fustration I used a pair of tweezers to gently scrape the charging port pins/contacts (in a straight direction). Then I used an old toothbrush and firmly brushed out the usb port - a whole bunch of lint and stuff come out of the port even though it had previously looked clean.
I plugged in my charger and bingo! My charging issue was gone.
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That was the biggest problem with MiniUSB was the width and height of those ports. It's a haven for stray dust and dirt. They need to be brushed out every so often, especially when you just drop it in you pocket.
hi buy and it schould work
buy a new charging cable
ukexport said:
I just had an issue charging which turned out to be an easy fix.
The led would come on and the icon would show charging but it wasn't increasing the battery %. Then I would get a message about the power not being enough and to plug it into a charger. I tried several chargers and was getting the same thing happening. I blew a few puffs into the charging port which looked clean and it was still happening. I wiggled the cable/plug in the port and occassionally the charging light would go on and off. The charging led even started to go on and off with the phone just sitting still on my table. I feared that my charging port had gone bad so I ordered 2 spare batteries and battery charger from ebay for $10 (works well and battery life good).
While waiting for the ebay purchase to arrive I did some reading up and saw that pins could be bent etc. In my fustration I used a pair of tweezers to gently scrape the charging port pins/contacts (in a straight direction). Then I used an old toothbrush and firmly brushed out the usb port - a whole bunch of lint and stuff come out of the port even though it had previously looked clean.
I plugged in my charger and bingo! My charging issue was gone.
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I was facing the same charging problem and was looking for a solution. And i found this forum and read it and did the same thing and my problem is fix.. I can charge my mobile now. Thanks a lot for the great help.
Sarchy Minimum
All of these dumb charges, ie bricks in the wall, use the unused USB pins to communicate how much power they can provide. There are some resistors they put on the D-/D+ to say this is a 700ma charger or whatever. Trouble is that there are limited standards on these resistors so it's more than possible that a phone will charge but not enter high current charging when attached to a new brick in the wall. The cables however are more universal.