MMC or SD memory card? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories

Which is faster/better??
Are the expansys ones good?

Neither and yes

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SD 1GB ULTRA 2 from SANDISK does not work on my xda 9090
i've got a sandisk 512mb sd card. wich works on my xda 3 (qtek 9090).. but now i've bought an 1gb sd card.. ultra 2.. and the qtek doesnt recognize it.. whats the problem?.. the 1gb or the ultra 2 part?

1gb only is not a problem. I have one working fine on my Qtek 9090.

Strange
It works now.. after a new format to fat32.. strange..

Hmmm...interesting and noted. Thanks for posting up how you resolved your issue!

SanDisk 1GB SD
The main difference between MMC and SD is the capability to record both sound and video at the same time. MMC is the older technology. Thats the explanation when these cards are compared to be used on other gadgets, like digital cameras -- not sure how that applies to the XDA though.
I've been happy with my purchase and didn't have to do any formatting. Just a simple plug and shoot (the camera was my first test).
The Ultra 2 from SanDisk is supposed to be for fast storing photo shots on digital cams. It could have some extra formatting for that mode resulting in your need to re-format. I'm not sure the XDA cares for the speed anyway -- its the processing software that needs an upgrade (if not the darn VGA cam)

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MAX SD card size and manufactor recomendations please...

Title says it all. I want to get an SD card for my XDA, is there a maximum size that the XDA can read (nothing mentioned in the manual) and after reading the horror stories here about wiped and corrupted data, is there any manufactorer that anyone would recomend?
hey mate,
i used to have a 512 mb sd by sandisk...hated it. it only allowed me to use around 380 mb; then would reject any other files i attempted to save in it. also had a 128mb by sandisk and same problem as the 512; couldn't use all of the said capacity. sold them; then got a panasonic 128 mb card. loved it. so i went and tried a panasonic 512 and worked great as well. since then i've been using panasonic sd cards. other guys in the forum should have other brands which work well with them. no offense to those using sandisk though
cheers
robson
i'm using a Twinmos Ultra-X 512MB SD card and i haven't experienced those memory wipeout problem that other users were talking about. didn't notice any problems with it.
02 XDA2 v1.72WWE PH10B
I use both 256mb and 512mb Viking SD cards. Both work great (though a little slow when writing to them) and they are cheap on ebay. Never had the memory wipe problem either.
XDA running WM2003.
SD card for QTEK 2020
Hi,
I've bought an Extrememory SD card 1 Go (almost the cheaper one !) and it works perfectly !
I am using Kingston 256mb.
DONT BUY
They work VERY slow, resulting in malfunctioning TomTom when I activate POI in navigation mode.
if your going to buy SD cards try to find those high speed versions. :idea:
Hi !
How can we know the speed of SD or MMC Card? But for Flash drive (mobile storage) we can know it is a USB-1.0 or USB-2.0.
Can anyone can give me some details about this? Now, I'm using a 256 MB MMC (NCP HEXON brand), it works great but somebody told me that it works slower than (Transcand brand).
Sorry, I think it is a stupid question but I really don't understand about it.
Thanks in advance,
I'm using a Lexar 32x 512mb card in my XDA2 and its great.
I use it for TomTom Navigator GPS and the "higher speed" makes a very significant difference to the time taken to access data from the card.
What's the difference then between the SD cards and the MMC? I have notices the MMC has a price premimum so I am assuming its faster/better.. Can the XDA I use either?
Edy\Anyone else, your original post said XDA but I have noticed that everyone who replied has an XDA II. Is their a difference for a max card size (SD\MMC) that can be used between the two.

4GB - is working

From O2 shop they released the info that the XDA terra can use 4GB micro SD.
This is the product on a German O2site
http://shop2.o2online.de/nw/produkt...+010014+00&tariffCode=O-ACC-H&categoryId=1121
Just for Info
Now we just have to wait for a major price drop. €99 is a lot of money compared to the standard 2GB mircoSD which are available for around $20-25. But great info anyways.
Something like this??
https://www.multielectronics.de/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1708760a
http://www.mindfactory.de/cgi-bin/MindStore.storefront/DE/Product/0027227?pid=evendi
Exactly, it's just disturbing that I already bought a 1GB and a 2GB microSD. If prices drop faster I will get a SDHC, I think.
Yes...I am using a 4GB Sandisk HC micro SD card! Working fine on my Herald with WM6. It is a little big thicker than my normal 2GB card and so you "gotta" help it a little bit to remove it from your phone. It came with an adaptor and a USB stick SD card reader. Even my laptop is happy to read/write on it. I am running Vista on my laptop...
The best part...I bought it second hand (cheaper) as the guy could not use it on his phone.
I can confirm that too...
I've been using a 4GB SDHC in my Wing since I bought it, love having room for movies and programs.
Just wanted to add another confirmation to the list.
Thanks folks. I know what my next purchase is!
Anyone try the 6gb card yet? Both are Class 4.
Hello!
Since one week I had a 6GB SDHC on my P4350 and it works fine.
Greetings
Alex
wow, the 8 gb just went out
Do you thing a 6go SDHC memory card such as this one would work on my terra?
http://cgi.ebay.fr/Sandisk-MicroSDH...675797QQihZ020QQcategoryZ150673QQcmdZViewItem

4GB Mirco SD for StrTrk

http://www.techshout.com/hardware/2007/12/...rld-conference/
Has anyone tried a 4GB Micro SD in the StrTrk?? Any issues?
Thanks
MrMiguel said:
http://www.techshout.com/hardware/2007/12/...rld-conference/
Has anyone tried a 4GB Micro SD in the StrTrk?? Any issues?
Thanks
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That link sucks.
i dont think it wil work. 4 GB transflash is only SDHC... at least in Star Trek it is imho impossible to use
moneytoo said:
i dont think it wil work. 4 GB transflash is only SDHC... at least in Star Trek it is imho impossible to use
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They also sell non SDHC.. So it's a buggy crap, but some people claim it works. I tried one made by Dysan, actualy it was 3.9GB. It worked in STR TRK, until I reached the maximum. Then all data was like lost.
MrMiguel: rather get a 1GB SD card. Not sure for what you need so much space. I have 2x 1GB SD and it works fine. If I know I will make demos, I change the card in my phone.
nevermind said:
They also sell non SDHC.. So it's a buggy crap, but some people claim it works. I tried one made by Dysan, actualy it was 3.9GB. It worked in STR TRK, until I reached the maximum. Then all data was like lost.
MrMiguel: rather get a 1GB SD card. Not sure for what you need so much space. I have 2x 1GB SD and it works fine. If I know I will make demos, I change the card in my phone.
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It's such a pain to change out the MicroSD cards in this phone, though. That is the point of having the largest one you can get.
Obsolete
The hardware requirements are different for SDHC cards. The 8525 actually has a SDHC card reader (32GB), but WM5 only supported regular SD (2GB max). When people cooked WM6 ROMs for the 8525, they made sure to include new SDHC drivers, allowing up to 32GB cards.
I'm not sure what type of card reader hardware the 3125 has, but it seems likely it is only a regular SD reader, as the 3125 is more similar to the 8125 than the 8525. The 8125 only has a regular SD reader. Even if the 3125 does have hardware support for SDHC, it doesn't seem all that likely that there will ever be a WM6 ROM for it, as HTC isn't releasing one, and the developer community here doesn't seem that motivated.
The limitation is not on the OS at least as far as reading 4gb is concerned. As long as the card is not sdhc. I have a 4gb sd card fully loaded with 3.5gb+ data and programs. My htc universal has no problems reading and writing to it. Very fast, too. Even my old Toshiba E800 sees all the circa 3.98 gb in both read and write mode. There are even 8gb non sdhc cards out. I have not tried them but people who report that they work just fine. I have not seen a transflash 4gb card that is non sdhc, but I have no doubt it exists.
"Jozer99 . . . The hardware requirements are different for SDHC cards."
The HTC Universal was shipped as Non-SDHC, however the latest ROM's have been providing SDHC with the existing hardware. It seems to be more an issue of the drivers, not the hardware.
any news?
I still have a 4GB card lying around, I'd like to use it. Is it possible?
GvIn2it said:
I would also like an answer to this question. Here is a link that claims it does:
http://store.wmexperts.com/content/accessories/7-128--2803.htm
I have an 8525 running this 4GB card but it is running WM6 and someone said that is the only way to get 8525 to read this card. If true that means WM6 would also be req'd on the StrTrk. I'm interested because my daughter wants a decent Cingular phone that will store 4GB of MP3's. If it does I will buy her an 3125.
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Cingular 3125 is pretty crappy for listening to music. Buy a simpler MP3 phone. The headphone jack on the 3125 is proprietary, and the included earbuds are awful. The music player is Windows Media Player, which is somewhat buggy, occasionally skips and crashes.
The hardware requirements ARE different. HTC shipped many devices with SDHC card slots, but with OS support for only regular SD. However, some older HTC devices actually DID have SD only slots, so it is not possible to use SDHC cards with them. HTC hasn't really released device specs, so the only way to know for sure will be to port WM6 and see if it works.
stynos said:
I still have a 4GB card lying around, I'd like to use it. Is it possible?
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Just pop it in and see if it works. There are genuine non sdhc 4g sd cards.
mo go
sofene said:
Just pop it in and see if it works. There are genuine non sdhc 4g sd cards.
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I tried it before... it doesn't work... too bad...
stynos said:
I still have a 4GB card lying around, I'd like to use it. Is it possible?
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Please tell us: what kind of card? SDHC or non-standard SD?
This is what HTC.wiki says:
microSD slot NOT capable of SDHC; maximum theoretical capacity is 4GB, which has been confirmed through several reports from HTC, wherein they stated the phone has been "tested up to 4GB". Though user reports of this are not present, 4GB non-SDHC microSD cards are rare as well.
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Qtek+8500+Specs?t=anon
so maximum capacity is 4 GB THEORETICALLY!! They have no user reports till now! What do you say?
Found this cab for SDHC for smartphones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351586
Does it really work with your SDHC and StarTrek so I can buy one for me, too?
Micro SD 2 GB
I am using 2 Gb micro SD in my Dopod S301. Its working fine. I have yet not seen a 4Gb micro SD. If you have one I think you can use it !!!
I tried the SDHC Support Kit on my 3125 and it didn't work. And still haven't found a 4 gig non SDHC card yet. hopefully someone will come out with one soon, or a hack that would allow an SDHC card to work.
Nokia MU-41 4GB microSD card
The Nokia MU-41 4GB microSD card appears to be non-SDHC, as the pictures of it do not show HC on it, even though sellers of it advertise it as SDHC (see here for example) - but ad blurbs often say "High Capacity" - well, yes, it is High Capacity, but maybe it is not Secure Digital High Capacity, and there is a difference that is more than just FAT32 formatting, as can be seen by trying to use an SDHC card in an older card reader on a PC - won't work - got to use one that is SDHC 2.0 compatible.
The Sandisk website has a good explanation of the differences:
"The SD High Capacity (SDHCTM) card, miniSD High Capacity (miniSDHCTM) card, and microSD High Capacity (microSDHCTM) card are the new SD™ memory cards based on the SDA 2.00 specification, introduced by the SD Card Association. This new SDA 2.00 specification enables SD cards to reach higher capacities: 4GB - 32GB*.
Because SDHC, miniSDHC, and microSDHC cards are recognized by new SDHC, miniSDHC, microSDHC host devices differently than standard SD, miniSD, and microSD cards, they are [FONT=Tahoma,Tahoma]not [/FONT]backwards compatible with legacy SD, miniSD, and microSD format host devices. Standard SD, miniSD, and microSD cards are forward compatible with new SDHC, miniSDHC, and microSDHC host devices.
Legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host devices and SD/miniSD/microSD cards (up to 2GB) are FAT 16 file system compatible, while the new SDA version 2.00 file system specification defines a SD FAT 32 file system for the new SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC host devices and cards.
Be aware of non-SDA 2.00 specification compliant SD 4GB, miniSD 4GB, and microSD 4GB cards on the market. If these non-compliant SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB cards record data in a SDHC host, and are then used in a legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host, issues and problems may occur. File system incompatibility, data corruption, and potentially you may actually lose the data/pictures. In addition, if these non-compliant SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB cards are inserted into a legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host device, the host device may not recognize/utilize the card as 4GB, and it instead may read as a 2GB card. If the SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB card does not have SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC on it, it is not SD 2.00 compliant.​More SDHC, miniSDHC, microSDHC compatible devices are expected to be available in 2007. To ensure compatibility, look for the SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC logo on cards and host devices (cameras, camcorders, etc.)"
Based on this, I am hopeful that a 4GB microSD that is NOT labeled with the SDHC logo (like the Nokia MU-41), may work with older devices such as the StarTrek. I know there are 4GB miniSD cards that are non-SDHC, because I have one, and it works fine in my 8125, where an SDHC card will not.

8525 Memory ?

Hi Guys!
I have 8525 and i need some INFO about this phone i just got it so i need to buy a memory card which one does 8525 support? and how many GB can support??
Thanks
It supports the Micro SD card. Do not confuse with the Mini SD, Micro SD is the real small one. I think it can take up to 2 GB. (Don't hold me to the size.)
I use a "SunDisk" Micro SD 2GB card and it`s work preety fine.
Zaharaa said:
Hi Guys!
I have 8525 and i need some INFO about this phone i just got it so i need to buy a memory card which one does 8525 support? and how many GB can support??
Thanks
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It depends on if the phone has WM5 or 6.
Last I read, WM6 has support for SHDC cards, which have a limit of 32 gig per the spec. If you have WM5 on the phone, you are stuck with a standard SD, which is limited to 2 gig by the spec.
However, you might be able to find a 4 gig non-SDHC. I don't know if they exist in microSD formats, but I have a standard size SD card that is 4 gig.
Used it in my Blue Angel. Worked fine, if not a bit slow (data transfer was faster when I had it divided into a pair of 2 gig 'cards'. Think this was due to the overhead of a fat32 filesystem).
My hermes came with WM6 and is working perfectly with the 4gig sandisk I picked up over the weekend.
I have a 8gig sdhc card in mine with schaps newest rom. I cant wait for my 16 I just hope its supported
C Brown said:
I have a 8gig sdhc card in mine with schaps newest rom. I cant wait for my 16 I just hope its supported
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It should be. Spec is good for up to 32 gig.
...and after a quick google to verify, it looks like Toshiba and Sandisk both have announced 32gig cards. That didn't take long. Of course, I have a 4 gig non-SDHC SD card, so if someone 'extends' the spec officially with new access modes, or makes a card that is not quite SDHC spec, they may be able to release larger sizes without hardware/software upgrades for existing devices.
BTW, if you don't mind me asking, what do you have on that machine that you need a 16 gig card?
Heck, I'm using just a shade over 330 meg, and got the 4 gig card only because it was a good deal.

4GB microSDhc or 8GB microSDhc?

I'm planning to get a microSDhc card for my Jade (HTC Touch 3g).
Can you guys please advice will there is any difference in performance, response time and speed between 4GB microSDhc and 8GB microSDhc.
For the timebeing, I'm using mere 1GB micro SD card and its works great.
I know that both works with Jade, but how about the response time? I'm surely looking for bigger space, but not at the cost of speed and response time.
Thanks!!
meet_bijoy said:
I'm planning to get a microSDhc card for my Jade (HTC Touch 3g).
Can you guys please advice will there is any difference in performance, response time and speed between 4GB microSDhc and 8GB microSDhc.
For the timebeing, I'm using mere 1GB micro SD card and its works great.
I know that both works with Jade, but how about the response time? I'm surely looking for bigger space, but not at the cost of speed and response time.
Thanks!!
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I've been using 8GB since the beginning. When I compare the performance of my jade with a friend's who is using the "gift" micro SD card, which I presume is 1GB, I don't see a difference in speed or response time. With 8GB, you can afford to be lazy and not clean up the storage card for a while!
tropical cactus said:
I've been using 8GB since the beginning. When I compare the performance of my jade with a friend's who is using the "gift" micro SD card, which I presume is 1GB, I don't see a difference in speed or response time. With 8GB, you can afford to be lazy and not clean up the storage card for a while!
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I'm planning to have my most of the programs/appilcations on the storage card, so was wondering about the response time.
On HTC site, they said they have tested 8GB, but didn't mention about the performance.
http://www.htc.com/in/faqs.aspx?p_id...0&id=85794&f=t
But, the salesman at the store said 8GB will make ur device slow, which I didn't want for more space. He was advicing for 4GB.
Have you installed programs/applications on the Storage card?
And is the reponse of those program on SD are marginally slower as compare to similiar application on device memory?
Even I'm looking to bigger space, it helps a lazy person like me to clean the storage after long long time, but at the cost of response time and stability.
All of my third party software are installed on the storage card. When I open most of them, the time taken is about the same as the default programs, give or take a second for the others. You shouldn't listen to sales people. I was told there were problems with 4GB SD.
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I use a 6GB card, nothign wrong Wish mine was 8, but I can't justify buying a new one for an extra 2GB.
I'm not sure if it supports 16gb but I may buy one of those if it's available and if its compatible, which I have no idea lol
I'm using a cheapest 16 GB and don't see any deference at all comparing to 1GB card.
Correct me if i wrong, but i think you won't be able to notice the performance decrease unless you using a high-res/fast Digital camera?
Card touch 3g
Touch 3g with ROM 6.5, have been support 32GB microSD..!

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