XDA IIs Headphones - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories

Hia,
Was just wondering if any normal set of headphones would work withe XDAIIs or is it only certain types.
Thanks

Any should do but you will need a 3.5mm to 2.5mm adaptor as the hile is smaller

Common 3.5mm -> 2.5mm converters don't fit well with XDA IIs because the XDA IIs jack was designed for a stereo headset that includes a microphone. Common 3.5mm -> 2.5mm converters, if not inserted at the right depth, will disable your microphone and also won't produce stereo sound. Inserting the converter at the right depth is MUCH HARDER than you can imagine. This drives me crazy every time I need listen to music and still be able to use voice command... :evil: :evil:

One of these http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=118289 will let you use a set of standard stereo headphones.
I use this with a pair of Sony MDR EX71-SL for an excellent MP3 Player

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Help: using an 2.5mm/3.5mm Headphone Adaptor

Hi,
I have a Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset http://www.computingondemand.com/reviews/audio-Logitech-PrecisionGamingPCHeadset/page1.shtml and it works great.
So would need an adapter like this to connect it to the Blue Angel -
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT16
Am I correct that BOTH the speaker ***and the microphone*** are then rerouted to the headset, or does it only reroute the speaker?
Thanks People
I have the same setup. Both connections on the adapter are for headsets only
1 for headset
1 for stereo headset
I contacted them about this and they noted that there may be a need for this type of setup, but had no immediate intentions of changing the config.
Raptor
I have a Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset http://www.computingondemand.com/reviews/audio-Logitech-PrecisionGamingPCHeadset/page1.shtml and it works great.
So would need an adapter like this to connect it to the Blue Angel -
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT16
Am I correct that BOTH the speaker ***and the microphone*** are then rerouted to the headset, or does it only reroute the speaker?
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Well..., I think I have to disagree with Raptor :shock:... I have both the PPCPADPT16 and the PPCPADPT15. The 2.5 side on the 16 does indeed enable the mic on a standard 2.5mm head set and the 3.5 mm side provides stereo sound, but no mic.
I use mine as part of a car kit for my xda IIs. I use the 3.5mm side to plug in a cassette adaptor and feed stereo MP3 sound and the phone through the car speakers. I plug in a regular 2.5mm hands free kit into the 2.5mm side of the adaptor and use that as the mic attached to the door pillar Works pretty well for all up cost of about $45
The 15 works by feeding the stereo sound into the car stereo via the cassette adaptor, while keeping the internal speaker of the XDA IIs enabled. In this way you can play the sound through the car stereo (or any stereo headset) while still being able to answer a call via the xda's mic and listen to the caller over the stereo speakers...
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris
Ah...now after rereading the posts, I think I now understand what you were looking for
You need an adaptor that provides stereo sound and a mic in a single 2.5mm or 3.5mm connector....correct..? In which case neither of these do it in a single connector..
Sorry, misunderstood on the first pass :roll
Regards
Chris
cbrow51
indeed stereo sound and a mic ,
thanks for the confirmation!
/moo
cbrow51 said:
I have a Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset http://www.computingondemand.com/reviews/audio-Logitech-PrecisionGamingPCHeadset/page1.shtml and it works great.
So would need an adapter like this to connect it to the Blue Angel -
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT16
Am I correct that BOTH the speaker ***and the microphone*** are then rerouted to the headset, or does it only reroute the speaker?
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Well..., I think I have to disagree with Raptor :shock:... I have both the PPCPADPT16 and the PPCPADPT15. The 2.5 side on the 16 does indeed enable the mic on a standard 2.5mm head set and the 3.5 mm side provides stereo sound, but no mic.
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I use mine as part of a car kit for my xda IIs. I use the 3.5mm side to plug in a cassette adaptor and feed stereo MP3 sound and the phone through the car speakers. I plug in a regular 2.5mm hands free kit into the 2.5mm side of the adaptor and use that as the mic attached to the door pillar Works pretty well for all up cost of about $45
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Chris,
Does your 2.5mm hands free kit comes with its own speaker, too? When you plug the 2.5mm hands free kit into the 2.5mm side to use the mic, does the sound comes out of the 2.5mm hands free kit's speaker also? Or the 2.5mm side only connects the mic and no sound is routed through it?
If no sound is routed through the 2.5mm side then it sounds like the PPCPADPT16 is designed for one to use his own speaker (cassette adapter to car's speakers, etc...) and his own mic (hands free kit,etc... but then one wastes the hands free kit's speaker). Does any body know if there is a mic-only device that can plugs into the 2.5mm side? I couldn't find any, a device that has a mic always come with an earphone. arghh!!!
If there is sound routed through the 2.5mm side, then whenever one receives a call, sound will come from all over the place, louder sound from the car's speakers competing with the weaker sound from the hands free kit's speaker... It sounds distracting!!
I have a feeling the designer meant to add a mic to this adapter so that the 3.5mm side and the 2.5mm side can be used independently. The 3.5mm side for those who wants to use the car's speakers and the adapter's mic... The 2.5mm side for one who wants to use a hands free kit...
The 15 works by feeding the stereo sound into the car stereo via the cassette adaptor, while keeping the internal speaker of the XDA IIs enabled. In this way you can play the sound through the car stereo (or any stereo headset) while still being able to answer a call via the xda's mic and listen to the caller over the stereo speakers...
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris
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PPC Adaptors and hands Free Kit
Hi Sumtingwong
The hands free "kit" I put together is actually an assembly of individual components I selected, rather than an actual kit.
I use a standard non powered, vent mount holder for the xda 2s and power the device via a standard car charger. The holder does not have any kind of speaker built in. I am currently using the PPCtechs "16" adaptor, with the 3.5mm side plugged into a cassette sound feeder (have also used it with an FM sound feeder as well) and the 2.5 mm side plugged into a standard 2.5mm mono hands free speaker/mic combo. I have the mic part of this attached to the drivers side door pillar. Then, I have MS Voice Command installed on the xda, with the "record" button on the xda mapped to the Voice Command software
So the way it works is as follows.
1. Get into car and place xda in vent mount holder. Attach car charger and PPCTech # 16 adaptor to xda.
2. Turn car radio / stereo on and insert casette sound feeder adaptor (you can use a FM Sound Feeder here instead and tune to the appropriate FM station)
3. Hit the xda "record" button and at the Voice Command prompt say "Play Don Henley" (It's the only CD I have on my SD card right now.. ) The music starts!
4. Then I decide I want to call someone, so, while the music is still playing, I hit the record button again and on the Voice Command prompt say "call Veronica at home". The music stops and the phone dials the number from the contact list.
5. The phone rings and I get her voice mail (she's never at home ) So I hang up and restart the music.
6. Then a call comes in, which interupts the music with the ring tone through the car speakers. I can see who is calling via the xda screen and hit the "call answer" button on the xda to answer the call. My car has volume up and down on the steering wheel, so that its pretty convienent to adjust the volume from there.
7. When the call is done, I hit the "call end" button on the xda and the music starts back up automatically.
It works pretty well. A couple of other things to address your questions.
a. I don't have a speaker built into the xda holder, so sound coming out there is not an issue for me.
b. The 2.5mm headset side does still have the speaker attached, but sound is not a problem as its so low.
c. I too have not found a (cheap) 2.5mm "mic only". I asked the PPC Tech folks if they had or could recommend one. They did not, but their solution was simple and inexpensive...."we find just cutting of the headphone part off the handsfree works well"!!
The other thing I use and love is PocketMax "PhoneAlarm" (www.pocketmax.net) As well as some great alarm functions, this app supports various profiles that control, amongst other things, the input and output sound on the PPC mic and speaker. So I set up the "car" profile with a mic sensitivity and audio output that matches the car stereo best. That way there are no big volume changes when switching from say the car radio to the MP3 music on the XDA (BTW, you can also listen to internet radion on the XDA this way too!)
Well there you go, hope that answers your questions. If not, let me know.
Regards
Chris
@ chris
how do you get internet radio ??? my car doesnt have wifi in it
Hi Zohaer
Via the GPRS connection. Try out this link in Windows media player..web favorites..
http://windowsmedia.com/redir/pocketpc.asp
Its for classicfm.
Regards
Chris
perfect explanation
perfect explanation pretty much covers what i want to do break out the sound from my mda III.
I would like to go one stage further and use a pc stereo headset with my mda III but i think that would require a mono 3.5 socket as well as the stereo head phone socket.
looks like the devices discussed so far are working as a pass through to a 2.5 headset and a stereo 3.5 socket for what ever ...
I've not been on this board long but this looks an ideal thread for a sticky any moderator think its worth while
regards
j
Black Night wrote
I would like to go one stage further and use a pc stereo headset with my mda III but i think that would require a mono 3.5 socket as well as the stereo head phone socket.
looks like the devices discussed so far are working as a pass through to a 2.5 headset and a stereo 3.5 socket for what ever ...
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Hi Black Night
The 3.5mm socket on the # 16 is for stereo headphones (no mic), while the 2.5 socket is for regular hands free kit with mono head phone plus mic. I agree with post above that a useful addition to the connector range would be a 3.5mm that was stereo and also included the mic. This would allow the use of the gaming headset mentioned above.
For now though you could use the # 15 adaptor. This is a 3.5mm stereo socket that accepts a 3.5mm stereo headset AND also keeps the mic on the device active. With this you can get stereo sound and still communicate wth the xda via its built in mic while the headphones are plugged in.
Regards
Chris
Re: PPC Adaptors and hands Free Kit
cbrow51 said:
Hi Sumtingwong
The hands free "kit" I put together is actually an assembly of individual components I selected, rather than an actual kit.
I use a standard non powered, vent mount holder for the xda 2s and power the device via a standard car charger. The holder does not have any kind of speaker built in. I am currently using the PPCtechs "16" adaptor, with the 3.5mm side plugged into a cassette sound feeder (have also used it with an FM sound feeder as well) and the 2.5 mm side plugged into a standard 2.5mm mono hands free speaker/mic combo. I have the mic part of this attached to the drivers side door pillar. Then, I have MS Voice Command installed on the xda, with the "record" button on the xda mapped to the Voice Command software
So the way it works is as follows.
1. Get into car and place xda in vent mount holder. Attach car charger and PPCTech # 16 adaptor to xda.
2. Turn car radio / stereo on and insert casette sound feeder adaptor (you can use a FM Sound Feeder here instead and tune to the appropriate FM station)
3. Hit the xda "record" button and at the Voice Command prompt say "Play Don Henley" (It's the only CD I have on my SD card right now.. ) The music starts!
4. Then I decide I want to call someone, so, while the music is still playing, I hit the record button again and on the Voice Command prompt say "call Veronica at home". The music stops and the phone dials the number from the contact list.
5. The phone rings and I get her voice mail (she's never at home ) So I hang up and restart the music.
6. Then a call comes in, which interupts the music with the ring tone through the car speakers. I can see who is calling via the xda screen and hit the "call answer" button on the xda to answer the call. My car has volume up and down on the steering wheel, so that its pretty convienent to adjust the volume from there.
7. When the call is done, I hit the "call end" button on the xda and the music starts back up automatically.
It works pretty well. A couple of other things to address your questions.
a. I don't have a speaker built into the xda holder, so sound coming out there is not an issue for me.
b. The 2.5mm headset side does still have the speaker attached, but sound is not a problem as its so low.
c. I too have not found a (cheap) 2.5mm "mic only". I asked the PPC Tech folks if they had or could recommend one. They did not, but their solution was simple and inexpensive...."we find just cutting of the headphone part off the handsfree works well"!!
The other thing I use and love is PocketMax "PhoneAlarm" (www.pocketmax.net) As well as some great alarm functions, this app supports various profiles that control, amongst other things, the input and output sound on the PPC mic and speaker. So I set up the "car" profile with a mic sensitivity and audio output that matches the car stereo best. That way there are no big volume changes when switching from say the car radio to the MP3 music on the XDA (BTW, you can also listen to internet radion on the XDA this way too!)
Well there you go, hope that answers your questions. If not, let me know.
Regards
Chris
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Thanks for the reply Chris. It's interesting to be able to "look" inside your car and "see" your typical day

Audio Jack connector?

I want to make up a lead to connect Qtek9090 to my car stereo's 3.5mm audio jack socket, but cannot find anywhere that sells the connector for the qtek (which has 4 conductors). Any ideas? thanks
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT16
i try using NOKIA headset connector... it works great..
Thank you, but where can i purchase just the connector, not a ready built lead... Or the nokia? Also which of the terminals relate to stero and are the wired the same for the nokia headset?
just buy non origilal nokia headset... and make a little bit modification..
pleun said:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT16
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DON'T BUY THIS ADAPTER... unless you have an extra 2.5mm mic (cell handsfree set) to plug into the smaller jack shown on photo (the bigger jack is for the 3.5mm audio plug). This adapter WILL DISABLE YOUR XDA IIs MICROPHONE and route it to the 2.5mm microphone jack (cellphone handsfree set).
BUY THIS ONE INSTEAD --> http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=118289 It won't disable your XDA IIs microphone. It only routes audio to the 3.5mm jack. Your built in XDA IIs microphone will still work
anywhere cheaper than this though, seems a rip off for what it is.
sumtingwong said:
DON'T BUY THIS ADAPTER... unless you have an extra 2.5mm mic (cell handsfree set) to plug into the smaller jack shown on photo (the bigger jack is for the 3.5mm audio plug). This adapter WILL DISABLE YOUR XDA IIs MICROPHONE and route it to the 2.5mm microphone jack (cellphone handsfree set).
BUY THIS ONE INSTEAD --> http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=118289 It won't disable your XDA IIs microphone. It only routes audio to the 3.5mm jack. Your built in XDA IIs microphone will still work
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Hi sumtingwong, my jasjar's internal Audio Jack does not work proparly, do know where i can get one?
Here u go
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-5-to-3-5-MM-H...s=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331075

HTC P3350 W100 Wired Remote Control

Does anyone know if the HTC P3350 W100 Wired Remote Control
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147564[/URL]
will work with the Cingular 8525 (Hermes, TyTN)? This is sold in Europe and can be had in the US from Mobile Planet which seems to be the same as expansys.com.
On the European HTC site there is also a media fix that may apply to this accessory as well as the Y connector.
HTC audio Drivers
Downloading and installing this driver update will provide your HTC mobile device with the latest available optimised software for use with the following accessories:
YC A120 Y-Cable adaptor
The hot music setup for Mogul and 8525
I just purchased the HTC RC W100 Remote from Mobile Planet. It connects to the phone's extUSB and provides a 3.5mm headset jack that carries the mic port out to the connector. It has a 36" cord so there is a lot of cord if you have a long headset cord.
The head has controls for fast forward, pause, +/- volume and you can answer/end calls, mute and put a call on/off hold. This assumes that you have a mic on your headset to talk into.
The http://www.Europe.HTC.Com site says it is for the TyTn II but it seems to work with both the 8525 and the Mogul . . . It is not on the USA site at all.
I use the Sure SE110s stereo headset (individual internal sub-woofer component) and added their MPA-C cable that has a mic in it (Thsi would work for any headset). I have not found any other solutions that wok this well.
The standard headset really has poor quality and is uncomfortable for my ears. Bluetooth is either a mono headset w/ mic or a stereo headset (no mic) and the battery life is unpredictable.
This way I can ride my bike and control my music while the Mogul stays in my camel-back and when a call comes I can actually answer it and then go back to listening.
Very cool setup.
So this doesn't solve the headphone problem? Can't I just buy this and a pair of headphones? I don't need handfree anyway
E: Why a 36'' cord? I totally lost interest
Headphone Problem
N1c0_ds said:
So this doesn't solve the headphone problem? Can't I just buy this and a pair of headphones? I don't need handfree anyway
E: Why a 36'' cord? I totally lost interest
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N1cO;
I do not know what headset problem you are referring to but this is definitely a solution if you want to listen to music with a good stereo headset. I just happen to like the Shure stuff because they eliminate some road and wind noise while I am riding my bike or skiing. Also the higher end ones actually have miniature tweeters and sub-woofers built in.
All you need is the W100 and any headset with a 3.5mm jack.
As it turns out, I just found out the unit has a built-in mic and that eliminates the need for a more expensive headset that has a mic. There was nothing in the manual that came with it that talked about the mic! So RTFB does not work!
It also comes with a small disc that has the driver in it. I tried to install it on my Mogul but it said that I had the latest driver . . .
As far as the 36" cord, my Shure headset comes in 2 pieces, the earphones are on a short cord so it is not too long. If you had a standard headset, it might get a little long.
The other side of the Shure headset has the connectors that go into the device(s). This way you can have several different connectors for different phones, MP3 players, etc. Blackberry's and Razor's have different jacks and most cell phones like the HTC 8125 (Cingular) use a 2.5 mm jack.

are himalaya's & alpine's audio jack pinout identical?

can someone please confirm this? like himalaya's handsfree can be used on alpine perfectly
I believe that all htc phones with 2.5mm minijack are
at least i used my wallaby headset with my himalaya
heck i used the cradle too so that connector is pinout identical too
oic...
1 more thing, there's supposed to be output when normal 3-conductor stereo 2.5mm jack is plugged into alpine's 2.5mm 4-conductor jack right?
I recently bought an alpine set without handsfree, then I went on & bought 2.5mm -> 3.5mm jack converter but I hear no sound on earphone having it plugged in, I've shaved the plastic & made sure the jack is inserted fully I dun have a stock handsfree to test with... could be the jack's fault? wuuuu T.T
I used both a org htc converter and a noname with my himalaya and they both did the job

3.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor with media controls??

I have been looking for an adaptor to plug my own headphones into that includes media controls (+the normal microphone, pickup/hangup etc). The one from HTC themselves HERE only includes a pickup/hangup button and mic.
I tried the headset from the wifes Nokia N86 which has media controls and a 3.5mm plug to use your own headphones. The controls didnt work so I cant just get one designed for a Nokia.
I have seen the guide on how to rewire the existing headset with your own earbuds but I am reluctant to go chopping up my headphones and headset.
Has anyone got one and where from?
Buy an extra pair of the stock headphones and chop them up. Instead of soldering on new ear buds, solder on a female adapter to plug your preferred headphones in.
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=188898
i too would like to know if anythings out on the market for this. there must be an easier way round this than having to chop and put back together different buds and cables......
hadn't thought about putting a female connector on a spare headset Might take a trip down Maplin at the weekend.Would be better if someone would make 1 though.

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