Stop using O2 XDA mini covers - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Accessories

Dear Friends,
Just like you I am also a PDA freak. I have had these handheld marvels since several years and am deeply into them.
I have owned an O2 XDA mini for over 6 months now. I found a shocking defect in the covers provided by O2. The cover has a strong magnet which tends to move the direction of the screen when I put or remove the device from its cover.
My friend who is using the same mobile has had the same problem. But sadly his screen has become inverted permanently now. We have tried all troubleshootings and have written several mails seeking help and reporting the quality issue to O2 and also its manufacturer HTC. But there has been no response from either of the parties.
What I can suggest immediately for everyone is to STOP USING THE MAGNETIC COVERS FOR THE MOBILES to avoid the problems we have faced or you shall have to burden your pockets once again with at least one third the price of your phone (the cost of the screen and its labor charge as the service centre has refused to repair it under warranty). I shall update you about any replies I get.
Regards
Karan Aggarwal

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:cry: X56 Broken Screen :cry:

I almost cried. The night before the cable arrived in the mail, the sx56 slid off my chest on to the floor, for I had fallen asleep on my couch infront of the T.V. with it on my chest. Horrible cracks in the screen and its oozing led blood. Give it to me str8, how totally ,utterly completely up a creek with no paddle am I . Who repairs this . I am in California. the shock will take some time to heal.
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Try this site, you 'll find some links there
http://www.sfinx.demon.nl/palm/home_english.html
Eric
Broken screen
I've searched al over the net, but I couldn't find anyone who could deliver me an o2 lcd screen. Only o2 can repair it for 285 euro. If you find someone, please let me now.
Stefan
Ipaqrepair.com repairs SX56 screens in the US. I got mine fixed there ,and the guy who fixes it is very quick. I had my digitizer done but he also does complete LCM replacements too. Just email them and you should get the info you need. Hope this helps and good luck!
E-MAN
I have an XDA with all it's parts in perfect condition.Something is wrong internally which basically means that there is no sound from it,but everything else is fine with it.
The screen and all other parts are in perfect working order,with no scratches at all(in facts it looks better than the XDA I use!!Such a shame!).
Anyway,I can sell it to you for spare parts.I will of course much less for the XDA than O2 charge.I will accept half of they ask for.Let me know if you are interested.
I am the guy with the offer of an XDA for it's spare parts.Thought I might leave my mail address in case you wanted to contact me.It is [email protected]. Please put something in the subject line to suggest what the mail is for(since I get a lot of junk mail,I don't open mails that I wasn't expecting).
Screen Repair
SX56 Screen Repair $215. The screen looks better than the original, it is brighter for sure. Got it back with a screen protector also.
Siemens Authorized Service Centers
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Spare LCD screen.
Hi there,
I have a spare XDA and can help with the LCD screen.
The LCD screen is still perfect.
Interested, e-mail me at:
[email protected]
Best regards,
Murk

Touchscreen stopped working

Got my truesmart last week. 2nd day in the touchscreen stopped working. Shortly after the screen went all white and wouldn't work at all. Later that day the screen started working again but no touch screen.
Left it alone for a couple days. Started working again. Everything appears to be fine. Only thing I can think of is i accidentally wore it in the shower (I am used to wearing my casio watches in the shower) but it barely got wet as I took it off as soon as I realized. Though this shouldn't matter as the watch is supposed to be water proof/resistant.
I have emailed the service omate email address and have yet to receive any response.
OK. About the "waterproof" thing. IP67 is a static immersion test. This means it is gently put in a 1m deep tank that is already filled with room temp water. The water pressure at 1m is 1.4psi. This is about 1/20th the water pressure in most homes. Even running it under a tap exceeds 1.4psi.
Yep. Selling it as waterproof is very misleading IMO.
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It is and Sammy does it, so does Sony, Moto, pretty much the entire industry. Not saying it's right but at least Omate says they will warranty their stuff, nobody else does.
I love that logic
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Meanwhile i am still waiting for any reponse. Also had waterdamage only a few days after i got mine. Its super if omate give you warranty on this but it sucks to wait for many weeks to even get a response beside we will get back to you in the upcoming days...
Would be oke if they did but still waiting.
Good luck
hus3695 said:
I love that logic
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I'm not saying it's right but I've read countless posts by people giving Omate hell of the use of the term "waterproof" all the while doing it from or owning a device from a manufacturer that doesn't even have a liquid damage warranty.
Then there's the use of the term "waterproof". It's used only once in an image on the KS page yet water resistant is used something like twelve times.
I'm not saying there isn't some QC issues but when put into perspective Sammy would have told users "sucks to be you, go buy another one". That's what they did to me.
Omate got back to me.
They think its the battery not sitting correctly and have instructed me to open the back and put some tape or something on the inside to help the battery sit better.
They also said once they have repair centers set up in my country (Canada) that they will honor any warranty service.
I got a reply for Omate!
Only to bad its not what I hoped. Since I bought my Omate 2nd hand from a seller online they cant give me warranty. They also said they were clear about the avoid warranty with waterdamage.
Now its waiting time for me till they have a repaircenter.
Well, I too seem to have this issue... My screen is mostly white, but you can sort of see. Attached is picture of it. Also, my top right button doesn't work anymore. Could I have gotten water in it, maybe.. But I have not removed anything but the SIM card cover. I will be contacting OMATE, but have low hopes for resolution.

Cracked the glass, can I get a replacement?

So I had been considering getting a warranty replacement for my phone over the last few weeks. I have a 14w19 phone that's been having overheating issues with the camera and in general (wifi, GPS, 4g, etc...). I also have 1 dead pixel out of the box (which doesn't bother me but it's there).
The problem is I went mountain climbing, and while near the summit, a rescue helicopter came over and landed right next to me (to pick up an injured person). Fascinated, I started recording 4K video with my phone. Having never been this close to a flying helicopter, I was surprised by the force of the wind it made and how hard it blasted the small little rocks from the ground. With my body turned, I still recorded the event, and found out later that a rock had cracked the back glass of the phone. I can't feel it with my finger, barely with my fingernail, but I don't feel comfortable taking it under water (which is a real bummer).
Any idea if Sony would still replace it?
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So I had been considering getting a warranty replacement for my phone over the last few weeks. I have a 14w19 phone that's been having overheating issues with the camera and in general (wifi, GPS, 4g, etc...). I also have 1 dead pixel out of the box (which doesn't bother me but it's there).
The problem is I went mountain climbing, and while near the summit, a rescue helicopter came over and landed right next to me (to pick up an injured person). Fascinated, I started recording 4K video with my phone. Having never been this close to a flying helicopter, I was surprised by the force of the wind it made and how hard it blasted the small little rocks from the ground. With my body turned, I still recorded the event, and found out later that a rock had cracked the back glass of the phone. I can't feel it with my finger, barely with my fingernail, but I don't feel comfortable taking it under water (which is a real bummer).
Any idea if Sony would still replace it?
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Where did you get your phone from, Sony would no doubt fix your device it's just they would probably charge you for it obviously.
If you got it by carrier explain this to them and they might fix it also but there should be a cost no matter where you got it from
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Good to know. I don't mind paying for the repair or glass (it's not the Sony's fault I chase adventure and don't want a case). I'm in the USA and purchased the phone from Clove UK in May.
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http://stellatech.com/sony-d6503-xperia-z2-back-cover-(black),a,en,817089.html
So the glass got significantly worse and I'm in need of repair. I'd prefer to send it in to Sony and not do it myself; does anyone have contact info for Sony USA department that would fix this? Also, any idea on turnaround time?
For anyone else that may need the info:
(866) 766-9374 - Xperia support
Loretto, TX Warranty repair - (866) 357-6230 technician direct

Warning: OnePlus Support and RMA denial

Hello my friends!
I haven't been posting on XDA for quite a long time but I thought I had to share this with you. About a year ago, I bought a OnePlus One and I was happy with the device itself and CM 11 and 12 as well. However, this summer in July, the microphones of my OPO stopped working during calls.
I started to do some research and found a few threads on the OnePlus forum and on XDA from users complaining about the same problem. The microphone suddenly stopped to work during calls and the person on the other phone could not hear anything. The only workaround is to switch to speaker mode. Some other users also posted workarounds and potential fixes for the well-known issue. I tried all of them but none of them worked. Here are links to some of the threads I am referring to:
OnePlus Forum
XDA
reddit
So as you can see, this is quite a common problem and therefore probably known by OnePlus. Since none of the mentioned fixes helped
and flashing different ROMS did not improve anything I started to get in touch with the OnePlus customer support. Before owning the OPO I had several HTC and Nexus devices and I already had to deal with the HTC support twice because of two hardware failures. The HTC support was surprisingly friendly and simple to deal with, so I figured, contacting the OP support would not be a big deal. I would be proven wrong in the next weeks...
I first contacted the OP support on the 16th of July. I provided them with a detailed error description, a few pics of my device with a timestamp to provide proof of ownership and the request to repair or replace my phone since it was still covered under the 1 year warranty. Shortly after, I received a reply from the support staff in which they asked me to provide a few more details (OS and Android version, CM or Oxygen, etc) which I did instantly.
Then I was forwarded to a "OnePlus tech specialist" who gave me instruction to flash a version of Oxygen OS and to run a microphone test, which of course I did as well. Like I expected, the issue did not disappear magically and I got a reply that a "OnePlus level 2 tech specialist" would have to connect himself to my PC via a secure software and try to fix my phone. They called this remote session. I had to book an appointment for this remote session.
By this time I was already getting quite angry at Oneplus, since it seemed like they were ignoring my actual issue and my request for a warranty covered replacement or repair. I told them that I did not expect that this remote session would help, since I was quite sure that it was a hardware fault. However, they insisted that I had to book this remote session, which turned out to be quite difficult. There were no free slots for the next two weeks. Luckily a slot was suddenly available in the next week when I checked the booking reservations for the tenth time and I managed to book it. Since the time slot was 11AM I had to take half a day off my work to make it to the appointment. A few minutes before the session should have started; I got an email from support to download the necessary software for the session, which turned out to be Teamviewer! I thought this was a bad joke. Teamviewer was their idea of a secure remote session software. I downloaded it anyways (what other choice did I have?) and waited for the level 2 tech. And I waited. After half an hour I wrote to the support that no one showed up yet although my time slot was already almost over. After almost 30 more minutes the tech finally connected herself to my PC. I told her, that she was not allowed to do anything on my PC without my permission since there was confidential data of my clients stored on the PC, to which she agreed to. The session however was a pure joke. After installing some Qualcomm drivers and rebooting my PC and plugging in and out my device about 100 times, she said that my device was indeed broken and that I would now be forwarded to the RMA department.
Almost three weeks, many pointless arguments with the support and this joke of a remote session, after I started contacting the support, I was finally granted an RMA repair/replacement. I thought that it would now finally be over and I would get back a new or repaired device. WRONG. But more to that later.
I got instructions to prepare the package to ship it to the 1+ repair center in the UK. I was told I would have to fill out an online form for DHL since they would come to my house and pick up my device. I filled out the form and was expecting a phone call to fix a time where they would come by as promised by 1+ and DHL. Well, I was at work on a Monday morning and suddenly without a phone call or any notification, a DHL delivery guy showed up at my house. Luckily someone was at home who gave him the package. However, the DHL guy asked for an address, which the person at home did not know, so they called me. Now I had to explain to the guy that I had no idea what the address was because I never got one from 1+. They said that DHL would have the address. So after around half an hour, I was notified that the DHL guy took the parcel with him after with him after he got a call from DHL who said that they knew the address.
The next day, the same DHL guy showed up at my house again (again w/o calling) because he got another order to pick up my phone which he did already yesterday...
After around a week of silence, I was notified from support that they received my package and ran it through a first stage inspection where they detected a water damage. They told me, they would send it to a secondary inspection to verify if it is really a water damage. I could not believe that my phone really had a water damage because I am very careful with my devices and I knew that I never exposed my 1+1 to water or some sort of steam or extreme moisture in general. A few days later they sent me the second inspection report which of course confirmed the water damage and thus my warranty covered RMA was denied. I told them that this could not be possible because I couldn't imagine how my device would have gotten anywhere near water. The next weeks I was arguing with several support members (they changed their names randomly and I had no idea who would reply anymore). I was basically given 2 options: pay 213€ for a repair or pay 45€ of shipping costs to get back the defect device.
After around 3 weeks (they often ignored me for days) I was so frustrated with the company and the way they treated me that I just wanted to get back my device and hence I paid the horrifying 45€ shipping costs (UK-Austria normally costs 12-20€ for a package of this size).
During those three weeks I was doing some research about 1+ RMA denials and look what I have found:
here: reddit
and here: reddit #2
and here: reddit #3
and here(!): reddit#4
So apparently, many users got their RMA denied because of water damage although they never exposed their device to water. There seem to be two water damage indicators (little white stickers that turn red when they are in contact with water) inside the 1+1, one in the headphone jack and one at the bottom of the phone underneath the buttons. Some people were smart enough to take photos of their white indicators before shipping the device off to RMA repair and received an inspection report with a photo showing red indicators, when they got their RMA denied. So these indicators *somehow* seem to have turned red.
After finding this, I was relatively shocked. I mean, I was mad at 1+ for their incompetent customer service but I couldn't believe that so many people had the same struggle and some even have proof that they were falsely accused of being responsible for the water damage. Unfortunately, I was not clever enough to take my phone apart and take pictures of the water indicators but I cannot imagine that they were red when I shipped the device off. Unfortunately I cannot proof anything.
After talking with two lawyers, we came to the conclusion that pursuing further legal options would be very difficult, considering that the law in Hong Kong where 1+ is located is probably completely different. Furthermore it would cost too much and my chances of winning wouldn't be high since I did not have any evidence except many reports of other people with the same problems from the internet.
Now after more than 2 months of arguing with the support I decided to pay the 45€ shipping costs and I'm probably going to sell the defect device but you can be sure, that I'll never buy anything from this company again. I can't proof anything but their warranty denials seem.... shady.
Now, I really hope that you never have to deal with the 1+ customer support because it is simply horribly. They have no idea what they are talking about, they just send copy and pasted replies and often they don't read your replies at all, they ignore you for days, their procedures are extremely complicated and they deny warranties in many(!) cases without a proper reason. Sometimes even, although there is proof that says otherwise.
If you consider buying a 1+1 or 1+2, be warned because the same thing can happen to you. It happened to many people and it will probably happen again.
If you are going to ship off your device to RMA, be sure to take as many detailed, high-res photos as possible of the outside AND of the inside of the device. Be sure to check the water damage indicators and take a good picture of them. Also write today’s date and your name on a piece of paper and photograph it with your phone so that you can proof that the pictures are yours.
TL;DR
Microphone doesn’t work during calls; contacted 1+ customer support; complicated and pointless tries by 1+ to fix phone w/o RMA; after weeks: RMA granted; shipping difficulties; RMA denied because of water damage; many other users also got RMA denied because of water damage despite of proof that there was no water damage; 1+ RMA denials seem shady (see links);
Would have been better you just buying the microphone part online and replacing yourself. But sorry for your trouble and oneplus cs is trash! We all know this.
anyone have pictures with the exact locations of the op2 water damage indicators?
Weird0ne said:
anyone have pictures with the exact locations of the op2 water damage indicators?
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That would be important to know........we all can possibly use it one time..
Stefan McSleaze said:
That would be important to know........we all can possibly use it one time..
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i mean like, i just wanted to use them as reference and see them on mine myself
Yup I agree with you. OnePlus customer service is the worst and I would never buy a phone from their company in the future. 1+2 will be my last phone from them.
OnePlus isn't the only manufacturer that does this sort of thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/note5-handle-water-t3211495
Can't be a faulty microphone if it works ok in speaker mode, there isn't a separate different mic for use in different modes (I would have thought).
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anyone have pictures with the exact locations of the op2 water damage indicators?
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I can't post pictures at the moment since my 1+1 is still being shipped back to me but iFixit describe the location of the one indicator at the bottom of the phone in step 15 of their teardown. The other one can be spotted with a bright light when you take a close look into the headphone jack. It rests just a few milimeters inside of the jack. I might post some images when I receive my device.
I don't know how many indicators can be found inside the 1+2 or where they are located.
Troute said:
Can't be a faulty microphone if it works ok in speaker mode, there isn't a separate different mic for use in different modes (I would have thought).
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As far as I know the 1+1 has three mics. During a call (without speaker mode) the main mic is used to capture the voice while the two other mics are used to cancel out noise. When speaker mode is turned on the noise cancelling is turned off and hence only the main mic is used. At least that is how I have read it somewhere. So my guess is that one or two of the secondary mics are somehow damaged and therefore the noise cancelling cancels out too much/everything instead of just the background noise. This would explain why speaker mode works and why voice recording apps work properly as well.
I wanna bring as much attention as possible to this bad joke of a customer support , so if anyone is interested in spreading the word please do so! I already contacted serveral tech sites, let's see if they'll write something about it.
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I can't post pictures at the moment since my 1+1 is still being shipped back to me but iFixit describe the location of the one indicator at the bottom of the phone in step 15 of their teardown. The other one can be spotted with a bright light when you take a close look into the headphone jack. It rests just a few milimeters inside of the jack. I might post some images when I receive my device.
I don't know how many indicators can be found inside the 1+2 or where they are located.
As far as I know the 1+1 has three mics. During a call (without speaker mode) the main mic is used to capture the voice while the two other mics are used to cancel out noise. When speaker mode is turned on the noise cancelling is turned off and hence only the main mic is used. At least that is how I have read it somewhere. So my guess is that one or two of the secondary mics are somehow damaged and therefore the noise cancelling cancels out too much/everything instead of just the background noise. This would explain why speaker mode works and why voice recording apps work properly as well.
I wanna bring as much attention as possible to this bad joke of a customer support , so if anyone is interested in spreading the word please do so! I already contacted serveral tech sites, let's see if they'll write something about it.
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I was trying trying to find the one in the headphone jack but it's really hard to see even with a flash light. Not sure what I'm even looking for the.
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I was trying trying to find the one in the headphone jack but it's really hard to see even with a flash light. Not sure what I'm even looking for the.
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Well, you are looking for a white small sticker (or red in case it got in contact with water). If you're using a 1+2 I can't tell you for sure if it is even there.
I was also denied a legitimate rma request. A lot of friends and family members bought oneplus ones on my recommendation, so I'm pretty salty over this.
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Well, you are looking for a white small sticker (or red in case it got in contact with water). If you're using a 1+2 I can't tell you for sure if it is even there.
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The only one I found was under the back cover on bottom left screw. Not sure if there is another after disassembly.
I had the exact same issue, but i never bothered to contact oneplus about it. I just bought the board required and replaced it myself. I haven't had a warranty repair in close to 8 years.
I wonder if OnePlus customer service is reading this thread and rethinking their policies and practices? When my screen broke on my 1+1, i just sold it knowing how bad service was and went back to my Nexus5
This thread caused me to NOT buy a 1+2 when my invite finally showed up.....
I still really want one, but considering 2nd hand now knowing that we basically are on our own.
Hg
Sold my 1+1 to buy a 1+2.
Decided to purchase the Z3 Compact to hold between them (delivery takes ages to Brazil) but now I'll probably keep the Z3.
I like the 1+1 a lot but if the brand doesn't support their customers I won't support the brand too.
Where did you purchased the board?
Zero problems with 1+1 and 1+2! Awesome phones.. (and no, not a fanboy)..
I too had the microphone problem and I also had to endure a ton of mails to support and the remote session... In the end nothing they suggested fixed it (shocker!) and I could send it in for RMA. Fortunately they sent me a new phone which I promptly sold. The whole thing took months.
REPTORO said:
Zero problems with 1+1 and 1+2! Awesome phones.. (and no, not a fanboy)..
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What does this comment have to do with anything in this thread?? OP is saying that if you ever have a problem, this company won't give a crap. Hope your phone has a problem soon so that you know what you are dealing with.
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spontaneous screen crack

Just a quick question. Anyone else have an issue with their screen cracking? My P9000 has developed a crack over the led. I didn't drop, knock or bump the phone. I've emailed support for advice. I'll keep this forum posted.
Update got a very prompt response. Two sentences
"Good day!
we are sorry to hear that, but screen will not crack by itself. it may have some physical damage on it."
No details of how to get a repair, that's it! Not the best customer service. I've replied enquiring about service centres, costs etc. and will update the post when I get more info. There are a few posts asking for similar details re. Screen replacement so the info will be useful for the community.
actually it's strange to think that a screen can brake by itself , can you post some pictures?
elephone customer care have already proved it's lower quality service . i don't know where you live but best solution imho is to give the phone to a local cinese phone repair shoop , here in my city there are a couple that repair - fix phones for low money and they also provide spareparts that arrive very quick and at low price thanks to it's black market channel, try to search one
I agree it's very unusual that the screen would break in this way, but I'm really very careful with all my devices and this has never happened before.
If Elephone say that this cannot happen then I'm not going to quibble, I'm more interested in repairing the phone. Sending it back to the seller for repair will be an interesting, long and probably prohibitively expensive process, but I'll make enquiries.
In other news Elephone are still working on a new ROM for the device, I took the opportunity to ask supplementary questions in my email :laugh: so the chatter on the forums about the 19/04 build being the last one can abate for a while.
The crack in question. Doesn't impair functionality and there's are no signs of impact
The only replacement display I found on the Web is this one https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32673463140.html Unfortunately I have no clue if this is an original display and if could place it on my phone by myself
Your phones has physical damage along the bottom side of the metal frame can clearly see where its been scraped. You sure it didn't drop or get dragged along something while face down? Hopefully there's an OEM replacement as its just the glass that seems to be damaged not the LCD
Thanks I wouldn't know how to even begin the repair but it's useful info.
I had a similar small crack appear on mine which had not been dropped I assumed it had been knocked whilst in my pocket, But then today i put my phone in my pocket to drive and collect the kids when i got to the school i had 3 additional cracks I assume its something to do with the size of the screen and it not flexing.
The new cracks now make it pretty tough to use the phone as they are affecting the touch functions, once i can unlock it i will take some photos to post.
Banathe said:
I had a similar small crack appear on mine which had not been dropped I assumed it had been knocked whilst in my pocket, But then today i put my phone in my pocket to drive and collect the kids when i got to the school i had 3 additional cracks I assume its something to do with the size of the screen and it not flexing.
The new cracks now make it pretty tough to use the phone as they are affecting the touch functions, once i can unlock it i will take some photos to post.
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Thank you. I'd almost convinced myself that I must have knocked the phone.
Events have taken a new turn. The left hand side of the screen now creaks and pops when you press on it. If I press sufficiently hard enough it stops creaking and popping, almost as if it is correctly seated again only to literally and audibly pop out again 5 minutes later.
I will post a video later, and will be contacting elephone with evidence that there is a design flaw with the device. I'll keep this forum updated on my progress.
thats weird thats where my spontaneous crack started images attached, the bottom one is under the glass but i think was the cause of the left side one.
Adding images as attachments as well given the URLS don't seam to be showing correctly.
Mine also has a minor crack on the screen, it's in a case and has not been dropped. There is no damage to the frame at all, I'm guessing it's from being in my pocket. The phone obviously isn't as strong as mainstream manufacturers. My crack is very faint in the top right corner and you really have to look at it in a certain light to see it.
If it gets worse, I'll buy a new phone (One Plus 3) and not look at this device again
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Mine broke in my front pocket without impact. It was the aluminium frame that was bending and must have cracked under the stress. In hindsight I should have started putting the phone in my pocket the other way around. Ha ha!
YorkshiresSnipper said:
Mine broke in my front pocket without impact. It was the aluminium frame that was bending and must have cracked under the stress. In hindsight I should have started putting the phone in my pocket the other way around. Ha ha!
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I note the replacement screens have come down in price I may have to have a go at a repair.
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