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I haven't found anyone else that would admit to trying these headphones with my phone (Dopod 838 Pro).
The headphones themselves are pretty cool. They fit pretty well, don't look toooo dorky, and the buttons click nicely etc. I haven't had them go flat on me yet. They could have come with a protective case though, and you have to take the microphone off to charge them, and I'm always afraid I will lose it.
When I first got them, they sounded crap. AM radio crap. I updated them to the latest firmware from the BlueAnt website (what a drama).
Tested, and they worked ok with the dongle - not exactly hifi sound, but the quality was ok to listen to.
Next I called BlueAnt HQ here in Australia, and after getting put through to a tech support guy he told me "They should work fine, I tried them with an iMate JasJam - no problems. Do a reset and try re-pairing them" (Duh).
Then I called the Dopod support line in Australia. During business hours. It goes through to an answering machine that doesn't even have an introduction message. Left a message. No reply.
Just as I was about to return them, I found the A2DP software tweak/patch on the wiki. First let me just say:
AAARRRGHHHH! What they hell are Microsoft thinking? Why have a registry setting \HKLM\StereoMusic\MakeMyMusicSoundLikeCrap=1 setting in the first place, and THEN why ship all phones with that enabled as the default? How many people have returned perfectly functioning Bluetooth headsets because of that? STUPID. I reckon Microsoft/HTC owe BlueAnt (and others) a truck load of money.
Secondly, that helps. Music is now stereo. I've been using them every day for a few weeks now. The bad news:
1) The quality is still very poor. There is a metallic hissing/sizzling/sibilance sound, especially noticeable on female vocals, which sounds (to me) exactly like a poor bitrate encoding error. The quality is much worse than when I pair it to the dongle it came with. I suspect it is the phone (or the MS BT stack) at fault not the headset. I would really like to be able to fix this.
2) With Wifi enabled, the music cuts out every few seconds. Unlistenable.
3) With Wifi disabled, I get the occasional glitch. I can live with that (if I must)
4) Using the headset profile during a phonecall, the sound I hear isn't too bad (a little muffled) but people tell me I sound really distant and hard to hear.
5) The AVRCP support is dodgy. Most of the time it works. Often when I first hit Play, it plays for a few seconds and then stops. I have to hit Play/Pause again and it starts. Track seek and volume up/down seem to work well. Answering a phone seemed hit and miss at first, but seems to mostly be working now. Not sure if this is the phone or the headset.
The iMate JasJam listed in the compatitabilty section of the BlueAnt website, but the Dopod 838 Pro is not. I emailed BlueAnt with my findings, and suggested they add the A2DP hack to their FAQ for other users. Hasn't appeared yet.
So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
2) Is there a Widcomm (?) stack that works on the Hermes that may fix the problem, or...is it likely to be any better with WM6?
3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
4) Would a Bluetooth 2.0 headset give a better result? (Is it a bandwidth issue?)
Any replies would be helpful.
Thanks guys,
Zilch.
Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
When you consider that most people are having a nightmare with their stereo headsets (read the Widicom thread, if you have a lifetime to spare), then I am totally impressed with Blue Ant.
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
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Thanks for the reply!
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
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Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
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I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
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Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo).
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Ehh... they could pay up and get a proper BT-stack from Widcomm....
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Thanks for the reply!
Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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I haven't used the dongle for a long time but when I did it was thru my HiFi playing CDs not MP3 so there may have been a difference in quality but never bothered to compare as I never had a problem with the playback quality from my Imate.
I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
I have model H1.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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Did you set a bitrate?
I have model H1.
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I wonder if this is the difference. Mine is an H4 version.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
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Just for the record, I got the headphones a few days after I got the phone. The only thing I had done was put my SIM card in, copy a few MP3s and change the default theme (since the Dopod one is grey).
There were no mods/hacks/cooked ROMS/tweaks etc. Just the ROM it came with which is also the latest version on the Dopod website. My phone is supplied to me by work, so I need it to be as reliable as possible - I can't afford to mess around with it. (Which is one of the reasons I resent having to edit the registry to get some stereo headphones to play in stereo)
Note: Today I have a few apps installed. An RSS reader, train timetable, TomTom etc. Only hack is the registry change for A2DP, and a util which sets the soft input to Block Recognition mode on startup. None of these seem to have affected the quality of the A2DP stream in any way though.
Unless I can try my headphones with someone's JasJam, or another Dopod I'm not sure I'm going to be able to narrow down the issue. I think it has to be a difference in the X4 hardware/firmware or an issue with the Dopod ROM (compared to the JasJam one)
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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I have it as a work phone too - and work in IT. I haven't had any issues with it except Windows Media Player losing the tracks on the storage card, and the device locking up from time to time (this is always when I am not using it - it is turned off and does not turn back on). Overall it's a great phone!
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
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I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
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I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
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Don't use X5 at work, but when I'm relaxing at the beach or around the pool. Use X3 connected to my Imate and my private phone at work. AT the time it was the only headset that would connect to more than one device and works great.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
How can this guy have any point of referance? How can he know he has made an improvement if he never bothered to use it properly in it's std state? And he will no doubt curse and abuse Ms and HTC for producing crap hardware and software.
As you say each to their own but it's hard for me to understand some ppls mentality.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
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If I was tempted to do that, right after getting it is probably when I would do it. Reloading all your stuff sucks. Plus if he needed it SIM unlocked to use it that could be why.
Plus, what a better way to learn than bricking a $900 brand new phone?
Zilch.
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So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
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3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
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To answer my own question in case anyone else is having this issue...it's all fixed with the official WM6 ROM. Works perfectly. (Except for the dropouts when WiFi is enabled)
yeah I have them and have had for quite some time now ... first used them with my Eten G00 then the G500+, then I changed phones to a nokia n73 and things didn't seem so good. anymore I lost the remote functions and even though I like the new phone I missed some things like nav and others so i went back tot he g00+. I have now updated to the HTC Tytn II I think sim to your hermes ....
I find nothing wrong the x5 controls a re great and quality is exceptable... I have no issues with Wifi.. I have the updated firmeware on my x5 and the stock firmware on my tytn II..
I also have a hs850 paired to the device the only thing I deslike on the hole issue is that everytime I use the x6 I have to fiddle around getting them to resume the pairing.
where as my hs-850 I just turn on blue tooth and turn on the headset... and off we go...
I have the x5 set as default headset and default stereo headset... the hs850 is just another device listed and pairs up soon as its turned on.
Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I can't seem to find it. can you upload it somewhere? Or give me a link?
I'm looking for a Bluetooth remote to use in my car, to control my G1 when it's hooked up as a music player. This is both a safety and convenience concern.
The starting point is finding a remote control that transmits Bluetooth directly to the G1 (i.e., not infrared or wired). It needs, at a minimum, a forward and a stop button. Reverse, pause, and other functions are nice, but not mandatory.
The other half of the solution is software to control the media program in Android, which may or may not already exist; if not, I'll commission someone to write it. Maybe I can even offer a turnkey system for sale if there's enough interest.
I know someone's will say "search the forums", and I did. What I found seemed to be focus on wired remotes for another HTC phone, or remote controlling your PC with your phone. But if I missed a relevant post, please do correct me.
Ideas are greatly appreciated.
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there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
Aux cable from car stereo plugged into remote. Remote paired with phone. Not *completely wireless* but atleast you don't have to look at your phone.
Does that get you anywhere?
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Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
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Hmm, I posted a reply to this, but it isn't showing up. Maybe forgot to submit.
Anyway, thanks for pointing this out. I had seen this a long time ago and forgot all about it. That's exactly the kind of thing I want. Here's the instruction manual, for anyone else who might be interested. It's about US$55.
The only problem I see here is that it'll register as a headset and thereby disable the sound coming out of the extUSB connector in the car.
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there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
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It's the Zeemote JS1, and this blog has a video showing it interacting with a G1. This may ultimately be what I'd have to go with... it seems to be designed solely as a controller, without A2DP getting in the way. But looks like it needs some kind of interfacing software, at least on the Nokia. At US$20, I should just get one and play around with it. Cheaper than buying another car stereo with BT built in.
Dual Infrared + Bluetooth Remotes
FWIW, I ran across two rare, interesting items.
One is the RicaVision Vave 100 Universal Remote. Unfortunately, it's $349... but in theory, it would control both your car stereo (via infrared, which the majority of remotes use) and the G1 (via Bluetooth). It's able to "learn" commands from 24 infrared devices, and has a 2.4" 240x320 color LCD screen. No PC or internet connection is needed for configuration.
The screenshots show artist/track info being received from Windows, so it's Media PC-oriented, but still a possibility -- assuming you could program it accordingly. If so, just carry it back and forth between home and car: use it inside for your TV and PC, outside for the car stereo and G1.
The other device is the Ricavision SideShow Remote for the same price, also having IR + BT transmitters. This is purpose-built for Windows SideShow, and has fewer buttons -- volume, play/pause, prev/next, etc. It's smaller than the Vave, but still has a 2.5" QVGA screen. This is perfect for my car setup, but there doesn't seem to be a learning mode or any way to program, so the chances of it working are about zero. Boo!
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
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Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
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Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
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mabye you got a faulty one like i did because the first one i got had a 10 minuite battery life lol
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Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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If that worked in my case it'd be perfect, and it's the smallest form factor yet. The only problem I foresee with this and the Jabra is that they'll want to subvert my wired headphone output over to A2DP. But for $13 I'll probably take a chance.
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yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
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Yeah, buying directly from mainland China, you never know what you'll get -- and if it doesn't work, it's usually pointless return it. But I've bought stuff from DealExtreme before, and dirt cheap, too. Back when I had this flashlight habit....
[OT] Counterfeits
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try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
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I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
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no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
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Here is my config see attached. I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
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I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
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It's strange that it works with one phone and not another. But if it really is a counterfeit, all bets are off -- you may never figure it out.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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I got 3 knockoff bt3030s back in october (from dinodirect... shady) at $15/ea it was an ok price...
I too have the skipping problems on my Droid, but I just discovered how to fix them. Go into bluetooth settings, long-press the jabra bt3030 device, select options, and deselect phone audio and reconnect the device. Now, no more skips.
I don't know if it's the bt3030's fault, I think it might be an android bug where audio gets routed over phone audio instead of a2dp. This is evidenced by the skipping audio--headset audio only has something like 8khz of bandwidth.
It kind of sucks that phone audio has to be disabled, but in all seriousness, I use the bt3030 for a2dp far more than phone calls, if I need to make a phone call over the bt3030, I'll reconnect the phone audio and disconnect it when I'm done.
Don't know if anyone still cares, but for the record, and for searchers, there are these options:
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/341/productID/1937
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/219/productID/1938
Both of these are very expensive though as they are part of large packages for cars. YMMV.
I know there are a variety of posts of many flavors in regards to OEM in car bluetooth handsfree systems. Some for unbranded i9100, some for the AT&T i777
For anyone out there with the knowledge: Is there anyway to find a task automater (like a macro) to lets say automatically activate the bluetooth button for the paired device, lets say 1 second after Bluetooth turns on. In connection with Auto Bluetooth app (like the ones which turns on when motion is detected) it could be automated. I would do it, except I don't know how to write program code.
I am thinking like "if bluetooth turned on, wait 1 second, trigger paired device input" . Because in that case it would connect (automatically) in most cases I though many many people posting around here.
Anybody any idea?
I am trying to connect my Galaxy S2 with they system in my 2011 Jaguar XJ. I never had a problem with my BlackBerrys. The BlackBerry autoconnects the moment I start the car and all functions work.
Absolutely not so with my S2. It seems that differnet car manufacturers differing systems which use BLuetooth differently. Some work, some don't .
Let me clearify the problem. Phone does NOT AUTOCONNECT and it drives me nuts. Before i just got in the car and never pulled the phone out of my pocket. Now I have to pull it out and manually connect.
I am posting as I may save some of you some time. I tried everything up and down the list. About every Bluetooth apps in the market place. Free or paid. Really pretty much all of them. Nothing worked. I upgraded to the (leaked) UCKJ1 and back to the original UCKH1. I rooted and unrooted.
To no avail. All I can do is use a shortcut widget to save me a few menues to navigate.
So for the ones with the same problem; you know all the things I tried. Don't waste your time.
It takes two devices to successfuly connect. If a connection doesn't happen, you can't blame just one device. My ISGS2 auto-connects to all of my devices (AV receiver, headset, PC, car, portable speaker, G-Tab) automatically every time. I get you're upset, but you can't single the phone out alone. As for cars, in the ISGS2 forum, non-iDrive (older) BMW's were the majority of the problem.
Same here. I have no problem auto connect to my BT devices. But when it comes to BT auto connections, problems are common. Both sides of the BT connection can be the cause.
Well depending on the year, make and model of the car with bluetooth. Really need more information. What Barry said is oh so true and usually anyone can tell you what their experience is. My experience with my daily driver's system *Alpine CDA 9887, Alpine KCE-BT400 made by parrot*, works flawlessly. The only time I ever had to manually connect was right after getting my sgs2 and even my captivate connected properly unless I was connected to my jawbone icon when I jumped in my truck.
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Mine connects flawlessly in my 2010 Camaro SS.
Im in a 2011 Camry SE, and with stock ROM it connects automatically. With CM7.1, I just have to take it out of sleep, by turning on the screen, and it connects. Not a big deal.
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Hi, Thanks to all for the responses. I completely agree that it takes two devices to do it right and I am fully keeping that in mind. I have 2 more cars I can try with. So I will check if it works with my wife's Lexus and with my Clarion system in another car I have.
It just is, that my BlackBerry (which I don't miss at all) simply did the job perfect. Obviously I can't tweak anything on the car side as that is next to impossible. There is no open source code and all is so proprietary.
So the only hope I have is to figure out a way to teach my SGSII.
Again thanks for the input. I do absolutely LOVE my Galaxy S2 (i777) therefore this is a simply irritating that I have to push buttons when I get in the car.
Hearing that it works for most of you is well, good for you and not so good for me.
Blaze9 said:
Im in a 2011 Camry SE, and with stock ROM it connects automatically. With CM7.1, I just have to take it out of sleep, by turning on the screen, and it connects. Not a big deal.
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Well depending on the year, make and model of the car with bluetooth. Really need more information. What Barry said is oh so true and usually anyone can tell you what their experience is. My experience with my daily driver's system *Alpine CDA 9887, Alpine KCE-BT400 made by parrot*, works flawlessly. The only time I ever had to manually connect was right after getting my sgs2 and even my captivate connected properly unless I was connected to my jawbone icon when I jumped in my truck.
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Well, I will experiment a bit more and I will share what I will find in case others have similar problems.
This reminds me of a blog post ages ago called "Bluetooth needs a dentist"
The state of Bluetooth compatibility is abysmal in general... What is exceptionally sad is that 4-5 years ago or so, one of the most relibale and compatible Bluetooth stacks around (BlueZ) got a bunch of nastygrams from the Bluetooth SIG regarding failure to run the "offficial" compatibility/interop tests.
The short summary: Bluetooth compatibility is an epic nightmare, on both sides of the coin (host and device).
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This reminds me of a blog post ages ago called "Bluetooth needs a dentist"
The state of Bluetooth compatibility is abysmal in general... What is exceptionally sad is that 4-5 years ago or so, one of the most relibale and compatible Bluetooth stacks around (BlueZ) got a bunch of nastygrams from the Bluetooth SIG regarding failure to run the "offficial" compatibility/interop tests.
The short summary: Bluetooth compatibility is an epic nightmare, on both sides of the coin (host and device).
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Hello,
I have to fully agree with Entropy512. Bluetooth compatibility is a disaster. Especially after all the years around. Not sure who, what and where is deciding on BT specs, drafts and so forth.
I know that with car systems it is a hit and miss. But it doesn't have to be. We all know that. I was digging on my good old Jaguar forum. What I found confirms exactly what we are saying.
Earlier Samsung Androids barely could hold a connection on Jaguars systems. Just with later versions and Gingerbread that was resolved. And none of the Samsungs autoconnect to any Jaguar system. And that is the same for Audi, Merceds and Subaru and probably some others. According to the Jag forum Samsung knows about this and worked on it.
But here is the main problem. On my wife's Lexus and on my Clarion head unit in my van it works like a charm. Automatically connects without a hitch. I understand Samsung can fix that but than it may not work on other cars. But how come BlackBerry was able to do what the Samsung unit can't???
And yes, some features like phonebook, direct dial and so forth are totally hit and miss. How do car unit manufacturers test? With what? Just one phone from 3 years ago? Same with the phone manufacturers. Is anybody talking? Seriously, why can't car head units manufacturers and phone manufacturers not figure out how to get on the same page? Car BT is becoming a standard equipment. So do BT enabled phones, no matter smart phones or what have you. There are not that many head unit manufacturers. So they can't agree on a standard which then can be used by the devolpers for a decent BT stack for phones? Completely ridiculous. Can make phones talk to you like the Apple Siri but can't get a bluetooth connection.
OK, I got that off my chest. Now I will try to get to work. All I can do is working on the i777 side, because there is no acces to anything on the Jaguar side.
Funny thing is, my phone is always stating phonebook request when I get in the car. Eventhoug I turned phone book off in the car. So the phone "hears" the car. Just without hitting the profile for the car it won't connect.
Auto connect to my Mazda 6 no issues. Same with all my other phones.
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Auto connect to my Mazda 6 no issues. Same with all my other phones.
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Do you have problems with the Mazda taking too long to switch from "Music" mode to "Headset" mode, thus the vlingo voice prompt timing out? My mazda has that issue and it makes vlingo in the car pretty much useless.
I don't typically use voice commands but ill try. It has no issues taking and making calls then going right back to google music streaming.
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I am also experiencing sporadic problems with my SGS2 and 2011 VW Golf using BT. About 75% of the time, it auto-connects fine when I start up the car. The car lets me know it linked and I can make/receive calls through the car's BT system fine. Address book loads as well (though does require a secondary authorization on the phone the very first time you use it).
However, every once in a while it either can't "find" the phone, or goes into a continuing looping state of "paired/not-paired". Generally when I actually want to use it! When it can't find the phone, manually searching for it (on the car's system) usually rectifies it temporarily, but it may go to unpaired a few minutes later. And on occasion, it simply can't find it at all. When I reboot the phone, or disable/re-enable BT on the phone itself, this problem usually goes away. This makes me think it's more of an issue with the phone then the car.
I too came from a BlackBerry torch and never once had a single pairing problem with my car.
When paired, media streaming generally works well, but occasionally I have to stop/restart it a couple times in order for the car to 'see' the media stream and allow me to chose it as the input.
The problem that I have is that the sgs2 will not report signal level to the car, so the car always shows full signal, even if i have no signal.
And it doesn't connect to the car unless the phone is in the car when the car starts. If bluetooth is turned off, or if I leave the car and go out of range, I will have to open the settings and force a connection.
Problem Solved, Autoconnect now working
Problem solved, read on:
This seems to apply to a variety of other vehicles, namely Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, some BMW, Nissan and Subaru.
You can get your phone bluetooth auto connect to your vehicle by trying the following:
Attention, I believe this works for rooted phones only.
Get a app such as Titanium Backup Pro or MyToolbox.
under System Apps freeze "Bluetooth Share".
Now my phone automatically connects to my Jaguar XJ and all features seem to work. Having gotten around to check the phonebook yet. But all recent number log show and all seems to work.
Attention: I believe that may only work for rooted phones.
metalco said:
Problem solved, read on:
This seems to apply to a variety of other vehicles, namely Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, some BMW, Nissan and Subaru.
You can get your phone bluetooth auto connect to your vehicle by trying the following:
Attention, I believe this works for rooted phones only.
Get a app such as Titanium Backup Pro or MyToolbox.
under System Apps freeze "Bluetooth Share".
Now my phone automatically connects to my Jaguar XJ and all features seem to work. Having gotten around to check the phonebook yet. But all recent number log show and all seems to work.
Attention: I believe that may only work for rooted phones.
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I'm going to try this...
I've been having trouble with it automatically connecting to my 2011 WRX. My iPhone 4 always connected immediately, no problem. But the GS2 has yet to automatically connect, ever. It is paired fine and if I go into the Bluetooth settings, it is paired OK and I can manually tell it to connect. I've tried deleting the connection both from my head unit and the phone and recreating everything multiple times. Still no luck.
I'll try this and report back.
Bluetooth is def one of those technologies that could be enormously awesome but often has so much "fussiness" with it (due to incompatibilities or quirky behavior between varying BT devices) that it can easily become a right-royal PITA, IMO.
I've had quite a few Android phones over the years, now, and tried running both stock OS and many different ROMs on them with one of the expected primary functions of my phone to be as my main music player, including streaming music via BT/A2DP to my car stereo and this one function has ALWAYS proven to be the most frustrating experience. So yeah, I'll fully agree that whomever is "calling the shots" with setting up guidelines and specifications for BT and BT-based devices needs to get themselves an iron fist and put an end to this crap of inconsistent behavior and general flakiness.
When I got my AT&T SGS2 I was shocked to see that Samsung had done something to enable their stock music app to be able to transmit song metadata via BT. Android thus far has only supported AVRCP 1.0 (AFAIK) while you need AVRCP 1.3 (or higher) to be able to have metadata transmit over BT. At first I was ecstatic that FINALLY I could see my song info from my phone displayed on my car stereo while connected via BT. But then I found out that with the SGS2 and the stock music app my car stereo could no longer successfully send play/pause/forward/reverse commands to my phone! D'oh!!!
So then I went back to Poweramp (what I had been using for my primary music app on my previous phone; a Nexus S) and of course it wouldn't display the song metadata. But the big shocker was that it also couldn't recognize control commands issues from my car stereo! Not cool!
I did much tinkering and research and finally found that the music app PlayerPro would successfully work with my head unit (but still no metadata, of course) and so that's where I'm at.
Ridiculous, IMO. Nobody should have to endure such frustrating behavior with BT devices. I really wish somebody could straighten this kind of mess out in regards to Bluetooth and get things to "just work".
No luck for me. Freezing the Bluetooth Share did not fix my auto-connect problem.
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No luck for me. Freezing the Bluetooth Share did not fix my auto-connect problem.
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OK, you can try one more thing;
Freeze all of those files: BluetoothPBAP, BluetoothShare and BluetoothAvrcp. If you have any other entries you can try freezing them, too. Just everything EXCEPT anything with a name like Brcm or BrcmBluetoothServices.
Just try it. And MAKE SURE to wipe cache after freezing, or better reboot. Also you want to make check they are in a "frozen" state after rebooting. I used "MyToolbox" and it worked perfect.
I haven't checked if I can still stream music, but I never use that anyways. I froze all of those and started unfreezing one by one. The experiment showed that in my case I only had to freeze the BluetoothShare. You may have to freeze the others, too.
Let me know how ot works. I am curious now.
I use a wired headset which functions like a Bluetooth headset in that you can initiate a call by pressing a button. The problem I have is when the screen goes to sleep I cannot initiate a call. I have to wake the screen up before the phone responds to pudding the headset button. Obviously this is not good. Hands free is hands free. Does anyone have the same problem? What happens with Bluetooth users?
interested in what the response is here...
longtime iphone user who just switched to the ATT Skyrocket (basically the galaxy s2 with LTE) and really not happy with android. samsung did NOT include headset (bluetooth or wired) initiated voice dialing with this phone and it is a vital feature to me. i just figured ALL phones nowadays had this feature and for a 250 dollar phone to not have it was ridiculous to me.
so now i'm thinking about using my one switch (still within the 30 days) to use windows phone instead and was wondering how the bluetooth performance is on the titan.
Check out the thread about 'The other party can't hear me clearly. No high-frequency'. There was one person that posted a solution and it was using Bluetooth... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20299518#post20299518
You might PM him and see what kind of response you get.
My phone is a week old and except for the hurdle of no outlook sync and this thread, I am totally happy at this point. Battery life could be better but I am playing with it soooo much it would be the smae with my old phone.
Consider this one resolved... found where the setting is and it works fine.
Care to share?
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Care to share?
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it's under settings, speech, use speech when the phone is locked
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works perfect.
I should have shared my findings earlier but I was a little miffed about the number of views and the lack of responses.
I've posted here enough times to prove myself and have always replied when I can help. I am new to WP7 but have been a long time WM user. I just thought it was odd that mo one posted up an answer.
Plus I was having a bad day which is very unusual for me.
Alright, so I recently decided to upgrade my AT&T HTC ONE X+'s firmware to the latest 1.19.502.1 update. Ever since I got this phone, I've never really been 100% happy with it, so as soon as I saw an official update being rolled out I jumped at the chance! I re-flashed the original recovery, re-locked the bootloader and ran the HTC RUU pc executable, effectively putting my phone in a 100% stock state and fully updated.
So far I can say that the phone experiences less general app crashes than before. The Bluetooth Call audio quality issue is 100% fixed. It would also seem like the Google contacts syncing issue is gone too. AT&T Address Book app now works (I don't like it, I don't actively use it, but at least now it's a functioning app). And Power management & Battery life seemed to have improved ever so slightly.
On the other hand, the phone does seem a bit slower (apps take longer to load, some phone functions take a little bit longer to react, stuff like that). The distorted streaming via Bluetooth (A2DP) bug (not the same issue as the call audio) is still un-addressed. I've always experienced random Bluetooth connection interruptions, and with the update this hasn't changed. Another thing I was hopeful they would fix with the update and they didn't is the Automatic Time Zone option in the Date & Time settings menu (It will often not recognize my time zone - GMT -4:00 - forcing me to set it manually... no big deal, but still a bug none the less). There were no GUI/UI changes or improvements whatsoever. Also, I like to use Nova Launcher Prime, and for whatever reason I've found myself pressing the "back" button to exit some apps and it would return me to the Sense home instead of the Nova Launcher home (which is set as my default launcher). That last one is no big deal, but thought I should mention it just in case.
What about you guys? What has been your experience with it? Did you update OTA or through the RUU? Share your experiences here!
the only thing i needed from the update was fixing BT A2DP audio. Like you said, it is still broken. Highly disappointed. Hopefully a ROM will fix it soon.
The update broke a bunch of apps for me. Chrome, Google Search, and Google Drive no longer work, they crash on startup.
Other people have similar complaints, here: forums.att.com/t5/Android-Discussion-and-Support/HTC-One-X-update/td-p/3469653
This is a stock phone. So far the phone is pretty unusable without those apps.
Really annoying. AT&T hasn't said anything about it yet. Maybe I should contact HTC directly?
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the only thing i needed from the update was fixing BT A2DP audio. Like you said, it is still broken. Highly disappointed. Hopefully a ROM will fix it soon.
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I hear ya!
djgh said:
The update broke a bunch of apps for me. Chrome, Google Search, and Google Drive no longer work, they crash on startup.
Other people have similar complaints, here: forums.att.com/t5/Android-Discussion-and-Support/HTC-One-X-update/td-p/3469653
This is a stock phone. So far the phone is pretty unusable without those apps.
Really annoying. AT&T hasn't said anything about it yet. Maybe I should contact HTC directly?
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You can try to contact HTC directly, but from what I've read around in the forums, they aren't much help. Allow me to suggest you try running the RUU on your phone (you can download it from http://www.htc.com/us/support/news.aspx?p_id=529&p_name=htc-one-x-plus-att ). It'll fully wipe it, so make a backup of all your important stuff (contacts if they aren't cloud synced, pictures, Angry Birds scores, etc) and then run the RUU. After the initial setup, re-download/install all your main apps and see how that goes. If you do get to do this, please post here if there was a difference in your phone's behavior. (Hope that helps)
I really honestly haven't had any issues with my phone since the OTA update... I still lag on playing a simple 2D game Drag Racing" but runs butter smooth when playing 3D games.. WTH?.. Really annoying to me... but then again, it lags even when I'm using my Nexus 7, yet runs lag-free and smooth on my Pantech Burst? Explain that one.. lol..
But all in all I've noticed a lot of small enhancements with the update. Now if they can just fix the game play of Drag Racing app.. lol..
I haven't noticed anything significant either way. If I didn't do the update myself, I don't think I would know there had been one. I do have to say that I never experienced problems playing music over BT, and I use it in my car, at home, and with BT earbuds. Maybe it's because I'm using PowerAmp.
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I haven't noticed anything significant either way. If I didn't do the update myself, I don't think I would know there had been one. I do have to say that I never experienced problems playing music over BT, and I use it in my car, at home, and with BT earbuds. Maybe it's because I'm using PowerAmp.
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The problem is still there with poweramp. It is a bitpool setting for connection between the phone and BT speaker devices. Some people just don't hear it even though it is there. I have a few friends who are now on JB thanks to recent updates and they have the same issues but they don't seem to hear it. I can hear it plainly though. One of them I could get to hear it but he doesn't care and thinks it sounds good enough for him.
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I really honestly haven't had any issues with my phone since the OTA update... I still lag on playing a simple 2D game Drag Racing" but runs butter smooth when playing 3D games.. WTH?.. Really annoying to me... but then again, it lags even when I'm using my Nexus 7, yet runs lag-free and smooth on my Pantech Burst? Explain that one.. lol..
But all in all I've noticed a lot of small enhancements with the update. Now if they can just fix the game play of Drag Racing app.. lol..
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Well, I haven't tried that particular game, but try this and let me know if it works for you. Go to Settings\Developer Options\Advanced\Force GPU Rendering, and turn it on.
Disappointing feedback. I work from home and have a Plantronics Savi 700 series headset. My HOX+ is connected to the Savi via Bluetooth, and if I make/receive a call on my HOX+ the call skips/distorts for the first 5 seconds or so before stabilising. Is that a known issue?
EDIT: to clarify, I am not using the headset when making/receiving the call in my example.. it's merely just connected via Bluetooth at the time I use my cell phone.
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Disappointing feedback. I work from home and have a Plantronics Savi 700 series headset. My HOX+ is connected to the Savi via Bluetooth, and if I make/receive a call on my HOX+ the call skips/distorts for the first 5 seconds or so before stabilising. Is that a known issue?
EDIT: to clarify, I am not using the headset when making/receiving the call in my example.. it's merely just connected via Bluetooth at the time I use my cell phone.
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That hasn't been my experience receiving calls (although making them, the first ring does sound louder and coarser than the rest) but there have been some posts here on the forum from people describing a similar issue (since way before the update). Apparently it's either an inconsistent issue, a bug that only affected a few handsets, or an accessory hardware specific issue (eg. compatibility issue with specific bluetooth devices).
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the only thing i needed from the update was fixing BT A2DP audio. Like you said, it is still broken. Highly disappointed. Hopefully a ROM will fix it soon.
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When u say BT audio A2DP that to ke means audio controls over BT. Well this has always worked from the start for me on stock and now custom roms. Now if I use a "wired" headset then no, audio controls do not work. All I can do is deal with phone calls and play/pause music. Cannot turn volume up or down or change tracks while using a wired headset. This from my understanding is a "hardware" issue. Now as far as actual BT is concerned, every aspect has worked perfect for me since Steve007 has fixed it for us. Also it has been claimed the new ATT update fixes this BT audio quality issue to an even higher degree than what Steve did so ultimate BT fix now on new ATT update.
So what is the BT audio problem now still not working?
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When u say BT audio A2DP that to ke means audio controls over BT. Well this has always worked from the start for me on stock and now custom roms. Now if I use a "wired" headset then no, audio controls do not work. All I can do is deal with phone calls and play/pause music. Cannot turn volume up or down or change tracks while using a wired headset. This from my understanding is a "hardware" issue. Now as far as actual BT is concerned, every aspect has worked perfect for me since Steve007 has fixed it for us. Also it has been claimed the new ATT update fixes this BT audio quality issue to an even higher degree than what Steve did so ultimate BT fix now on new ATT update.
So what is the BT audio problem now still not working?
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What you're referring to are Media and Call control over bluetooth (First part of your statement) and Bluetooth Call Audio specifically (second part of your statement. This is what Steve007's fix addresses and the new update fixes). The bug badtlc and I mentioned is specifically when streaming Music or Video Audio through bluetooth (basically any type or audio that isn't phone call related). The audio streams just fine, but with a nasty distortion in the high frequencies. Many people just don't seem to mind the distorted sound because they just don't seem to identify it. If you compare the Bluetooth audio quality vs the direct audio quality (like with an Aux cable) you will hear a noticeable difference.
bluetooth volume level issue after upgrade
I've been having the issue of too low volume on bluetooth calls in my car since the upgrade to 1.19.502.1 I used the RUU from HTC site to do the upgrade and reinstalled everything. I have to literally turn up the bluetooth volume all the way up in my car and the people on the other end complain that I'm not loud enough. Did anyone else notice anything like this?
The first time I did the OTA on a stock, locked, not rooted HOX+ I noticed some improvments, I'm not really sure might have been placebo effect, but it did break my Wi-Fi. It would stay stuck on "Turning on Wi-Fi" the slider would be slid to the on side, but say off and be grey and unaccessable. Well I had to get it replaced under warranty, the headset speaker was dead too but that happened before the update, and it came with 1.15 and I want to know how common of a problem my experience was I know of at least a couple people who have had the same thing and I'm not sure I want to try the update again on this one and have to go through replacing it again.
i dont see any updated
i am using ATT HTC onex+ on pay as you go service, my phone never saw any updates, tried to change date as many have suggested, tried *#*#checkin#*#*, tried to look up for update manually from settings, but none seem to work, my phone is in stock condition with no root/unlock etc.
any ideas?
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i am using ATT HTC onex+ on pay as you go service, my phone never saw any updates, tried to change date as many have suggested, tried *#*#checkin#*#*, tried to look up for update manually from settings, but none seem to work, my phone is in stock condition with no root/unlock etc.
any ideas?
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Download the update directly from the HTC website.
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Download the update directly from the HTC website.
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i could, but wouldn't that wipe the phone off? i'll have to re-install everything back. such a pain on 64gb phone
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i could, but wouldn't that wipe the phone off? i'll have to re-install everything back. such a pain on 64gb phone
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The official updates from HTC never wipe anything from the device. They just UpDate the OS. There might brake an app and very rarely, but that's just when changing the SW version, due to app incompatibility with the new OS vers. That's just my experience with HTC over the last few years and the last few devices.
Best of luck.
Pushu.X
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pushu.x said:
The official updates from HTC never wipe anything from the device. They just UpDate the OS. There might brake an app and very rarely, but that's just when changing the SW version, due to app incompatibility with the new OS vers. That's just my experience with HTC over the last few years and the last few devices.
Best of luck.
Pushu.X
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can you point me to where/how can i download and apply the update?
i just saw the article below, it had link for full ROM for download, thought it will wipe the current content. correct me if i am wrong.
androidpolice.com/2013/04/16/att-one-x-updated-to-v1-19-502-1-with-bug-fixes-galore-full-rom-download-available/