I just bought a used 8125. The device was suppose to be standard, but when it arrived it had WM 6.1 custom rom from newbie1221. I also noticed that it is a G4.
IPL 2.1.0001
SPL 2.1.01ip
So is it safe to assume the device is CID unlocked?
Is it safe to flash This Romas it doesn't include ipl/spl?
How will the UK radio work since I'm in the US? My current Radio version is 2.25.11
How can I tell if it's wwe?
It says it's WM 6.1 but I'm confused by this
5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0 (AKU 1.0 )
OS: 11.0.1.0 << as you know, 11.x.x.x is for TNT Series or based on
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Does this mean it's not 6.1?
Please be patient with me it's been a while since I've had WM device. The wiki helped me a lot.
Heya man, welcome to the fold....you can tell if your device has WM6.1 on it by going to START->Settings->System->About, and at the top is will say OS:Windows Mobile 5.0/6/6.1, depending on what you have. Since your IPL/SPL is already Olip'ed, then yes, your device IS indeed CID unlocked....but if you havent done so already, I would download the excellent Wizard Tool availible up here at XDA-Dev and SIM unlock your device aswell. To answer your other question, you should be fine with flashing a different rom, as long as it DOES NOT contain an Extended ROM partition OR IPL/SPL.
No, G4 is always CID locked, regardless you used HardSPL or not (HardSPL only tricks the RUU program, you can always check the CID lock status using WST)
Yes, it's safe to flash any ROMs that doesn't include IPL and SPL.
For the Radio, all Radio ROMs has support for all GSM modes supported by Wizard hardware, just try to see if it gives a better reception.
TNT roms are always WWE (you can see the screenshots, it is always WWE if it is an English ROM)
5.2.19xxx is WM6.1 ROM. TNT used its own versioning in ROM, so don't count on that.
So all that HardSPL'ing a device does is trick the RUU? Didnt know that, I thought that it actually "unlocked" the phone, like we do over in the excalibur forums lol
starkwong is absolutely correct and I endorse it!
Thanks for all the help. I downloaded WST it shows it was Sim unlocked but I have no way of testing. WST shows that the phone is HardSPL. When I try to flash any Roms I get a Error 300 message. So I used the RUU MUN worked perfectly. The phone is my wifes & she is very happy. Thanks again for all the help. The Wizard may be old but it runs great.
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i have a WIZA-200 G4 adn for the past to days i have downloaded like all these versions of ROM from here and still each ROM utility says that i need to get a newer version?????????????
i just wanna download WM6 on my wizard is that too much to ask??
my spl 2.26.0001 and the RUU shows version 1.2.0.0 and somethign OS vERsion 2.26.10.2
kindly someone tell me where ic an download WM 6 to my phone
thanksss
my sys info says
ROM 2.26.10.2 WWE
rom date 6/7/06
radio 2.25.11
protocol 4.1.13.12
ext rom 2.26.10.105
mony114 said:
hy
i have a WIZA-200 G4 adn for the past to days i have downloaded like all these versions of ROM from here and still each ROM utility says that i need to get a newer version?????????????
i just wanna download WM6 on my wizard is that too much to ask??
my spl 2.26.0001 and the RUU shows version 1.2.0.0 and somethign OS vERsion 2.26.10.2
kindly someone tell me where ic an download WM 6 to my phone
thanksss
my sys info says
ROM 2.26.10.2 WWE
rom date 6/7/06
radio 2.25.11
protocol 4.1.13.12
ext rom 2.26.10.105
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Ok here I come to save the day... The reason you are getting that error message is because you have a locked G4. From what you have said already, It sounds like you have T-Mobile and unfortunately, due to DOC right protection on all of our devices, you need to perform some kind of unlock on your device or work around it. I believe that G4 CID unlocking has been almost perfected but I can tell you 2 other ways to flash your device.
On the grander scale, here are all 3 known ways to flash your G4 device.
First and formost, shelltools is a very common and most heavily used way to flash a G4 device. It extracts the OS from the Rom and then flashes it to your device and afterwards, you need to hard reset your device and what do you know, you have WM6.
The second way to flash a Rom to a G4 device is to use SoftSPL. SoftSPL temporarily patches the CID on your device to think it is CID unlocked and allows you to flash a new Rom to the device as if it were in fact permanently unlocked but this is only a one time go. Each time you want to change Roms, you have to flash back to your carriers official Rom and then run SoftSPL again with the new Rom of your choice.
Third and finally, I mentioned above that they have managed to permanently CID unlock G4 devices but I am not sure if they managed to perfect it yet. I also have not tried this method before because I had to have a handset exchange and ended up with a G3.
Don't take this personally, but you really need to do alot of reading before you dive into the world of Rom flashers because from the sounds of what you wrote above, you don't know enough about flashing Roms yet and that makes it really hard. Trust me, I was in your shoes before.
Just hang out in the G4 forum for a while and read as much as you can and when you feel comfortable with what you are about to do, then give it a try. I really don't want to see you screw up your phone and brick it, but I do want to see you succeed in the Rom flashing world so for your own sake, read up. Here are just a few threads that you really should check out before trying to so something you're not sure about.
[solution] G4 SoftSPL Flash any ROM to CID locked G4 [UPDATED]
Solutuion found: how to flash any rom to CIDLOCKED DEVICE
Hard-SPL - or how to CID unlock your device
[Solution] G4 Hard SPL (CID unlock)
I really hope this was helpful. It should be all you need.
Dan.
hey thanxxxx i got it working used the mun tutorial on doing it had my fingers crossed all the way it took mine around 40 minutes and stil it woulndt say that its done so like after 45 minutes i just yanked the cable from my wizard and it at once said DONe hehe loving my new wm6 using 1437 tnt and its faster than my wm5 strangely i was expecting it to be a little slow hehe
thanx for your help dude really appreciate it
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hey thanxxxx i got it working used the mun tutorial on doing it had my fingers crossed all the way it took mine around 40 minutes and stil it woulndt say that its done so like after 45 minutes i just yanked the cable from my wizard and it at once said DONe hehe loving my new wm6 using 1437 tnt and its faster than my wm5 strangely i was expecting it to be a little slow hehe
thanx for your help dude really appreciate it
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No problem... It was my pleasure. You should give 1921 a try. It's its rights newest version and is supposed to be much better. I read the whole thread and one major fix is battery life. A must for a Wizard user.
Dan.
Hey all, this is NOT a "howz to git to Windowze Mobiil 6.!!!!" post, but rather a question about "upgrading" a ROM. I am currently running TNT's Windows Mobile 6.1 Proffesional ROM, and I have just learned that there is any upgrade to that particular ROM, and would like to know if I can safely upgrade to it from WM6.1, or do I have to downgrade back to the Love ROM and then upgrade again. Heres my device history if it helps:
Device=Cingular 8125, SIM Unlocked(using Lokwiz 3.0)
Original ROM=Cingular WM5.0
Current ROM=TNT WM 6.1 V1
Heres how I upgraded it originally:
Got it home, used the HardSPL method to make my IPL/SPL 2.26.XXXX(so my device IS a G4), tried to upgrade to WM6.1...no luck. Discovered that you have to upgrade to the LOVE ROM first, so I tried that...again, no luck. So I then used the SoftSPL.exe to temporairily CID unlock my device I guess, and then proceeded to upgrade to the LOVE ROM, then to the TNT WM 6.1 V1 ROM.
Now, my device is working fine, and I would just like to know if I CAN upgrade to the new V2 ROM, and if what I did to get this far is correct. ANy help is appreciated!
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Hey all, this is NOT a "howz to git to Windowze Mobiil 6.!!!!" post, but rather a question about "upgrading" a ROM. I am currently running TNT's Windows Mobile 6.1 Proffesional ROM, and I have just learned that there is any upgrade to that particular ROM, and would like to know if I can safely upgrade to it from WM6.1, or do I have to downgrade back to the Love ROM and then upgrade again. Heres my device history if it helps:
Device=Cingular 8125, SIM Unlocked(using Lokwiz 3.0)
Original ROM=Cingular WM5.0
Current ROM=TNT WM 6.1 V1
Heres how I upgraded it originally:
Got it home, used the HardSPL method to make my IPL/SPL 2.26.XXXX(so my device IS a G4), tried to upgrade to WM6.1...no luck. Discovered that you have to upgrade to the LOVE ROM first, so I tried that...again, no luck. So I then used the SoftSPL.exe to temporairily CID unlock my device I guess, and then proceeded to upgrade to the LOVE ROM, then to the TNT WM 6.1 V1 ROM.
Now, my device is working fine, and I would just like to know if I CAN upgrade to the new V2 ROM, and if what I did to get this far is correct. ANy help is appreciated!
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My opinion is that flashing the LOVE ROM was a unnecessary step. I never do anything like that before changing ROMs (flashing a stock ROM and the like)
That almost answers your question except that having used SoftSPL your CID block is still locked and SPL knows it so you must either:
1- Flash SoftSPL before flashing the TNT
2- Flash the HardSPL to not worrying about it ever again when wanting to change ROMs (my option - if i had a G4)
hope it's clear
cheers
PS:
Use WST to check if you SPL is HardSPL'ed or not with "Device Info" option
"G4 SAFE" What does that mean???
mestrini said:
My opinion is that flashing the LOVE ROM was a unnecessary step. I never do anything like that before changing ROMs (flashing a stock ROM and the like)
That almost answers your question except that having used SoftSPL your CID block is still locked and SPL knows it so you must either:
1- Flash SoftSPL before flashing the TNT
2- Flash the HardSPL to not worrying about it ever again when wanting to change ROMs (my option - if i had a G4)
hope it's clear
cheers
PS:
Use WST to check if you SPL is HardSPL'ed or not with "Device Info" option
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I have a question about What G4 safe?
I uploaded a rom with HTCLogo.nb+Splash.nb+OS.nb (I assume that because there is no IPL/SPL it should be safe for G4????)
S.V.I said:
I have a question about What G4 safe?
I uploaded a rom with HTCLogo.nb+Splash.nb+OS.nb (I assume that because there is no IPL/SPL it should be safe for G4????)
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Absolutely right m8
As you can see from the pics only the IPL and SPL have versions depending on the DOC chip (G3 3.08 in this case )
cheers
mestrini said:
Absolutely right m8
As you can see from the pics only the IPL and SPL have versions depending on the DOC chip (G3 3.08 in this case )
cheers
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Thanx So much!
I am trying to get TNT .20273 working on my G4, but my radio version is 2.30.11 and I heard this is why its not working correctly. I downloaded the T-Mobile 2.19.11, but I have Cingular...will this make a difference? Do I flash this like any other ROM? Do I need to flash this before or after I flash a new ROM?
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
Well I got TNT .20273 "working", but I was always getting missed calls and texts and whenever I would soft reset I would get like 10 cannot load blah blah file and I read somewere it was because the radio version I had. Plus I heard 2.19.11 was the best with no dropped calls and such.
al0ns0 said:
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
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First determine which version is your phone,G3 or G4,its very important,coz method for flashing a rom is altogether different for both the devices.
HardSPL and SoftSPL are solely meant to flash a G4 device and shud not be done for a G3 phone,likewise CID unlocking method for a G3 phone,through lokiwiz02b or WST_4.2.2 Tool, shud not be carried out on a G4 device.
You need to do alot of reading to understand all these methods,So..... get going!!! or else you might end up 'Bricking" your phone
zabardast_1 said:
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
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ok so you said that. i'd like to say, i have a g3 with radio 02.25.11 and i'm fixin to use a multitude of different roms i've found here .. some with touch flow, others are this and that. but none of them say anything about radio roms or compatibility or dropped call count. so my question to you is, will this radio rom i have make a difference? am i going to have to change radio roms or no?
This is the G4 subforum
Radio 2.19.11 is recommended.
Thanks a lot zabardast_1!
I did the reading and the upgrade. Evertyhing went great and my wizard is now running WM 6.1 and working great.
I do have a follow up question though. I noticed there are different ROMs and the today screen looks different (the way the clock is shown, the icons available, etc).
Is there any way to change the way things look without changing the ROM?
Thanks again!
Hi there, my first posting after reading here for a few days...
I got an T-Mobile Ameo which identifies its IPL and SPL like this (in Bootloader Mode)
ATHE100
IPL-1.00
ATHE100
SPL-1.06.0000
I am a little bit confused since I could not find any other person/posting which reported this SPL version of 1.06.
What do you think about this? Is it just normal or do I have to do some precaution measures before CID-unlocking, SIM-unlocking and flashing?
Greetings, forcemaker
Upgraded to T-Mobile WM6
... with the "original" Upgrade Tool, all fine for me; I also figured out that my PrePaid-Provider "Congstar" is D1=T-Mobile net, so I do not even have to SIM-unlock.
All's fine
So this low SPL version which I couldn't find in combination with "ATHENA" so I was guessing if this was a "too old" version.
CU, forcemaker
Hi
I also have this SPL with small differance SPL 1.07
Have you SUCCESSFULY unlock with OLIPRO unlocker
and this ""original" Upgrade Tool," from where is this
Best regards
just used the T-Mobile WM 6 ROM
Hi GSmart,
I did not unlock the device nor SIM unlocked, so I cannot tell whether it will do the job for you.
I used the ROM from T-Mobile Germany (Deutschland, short TMD). As I did not need any modification - I just wanted it to work stresslessly - I just flashed the ROM with the Update tool that was supplied with the download. As far as I got it, it is the original upgrade tool supplied for providers and customers(?).
You can find the original ROMs in this Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334512
I myself used "German - T-Mobile Ameo" which is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/73352583/Athena_WM6_TMD_2.35.111.3_By_Agent_Bignose.zip
So, if any modified ROM which needs unlocking, will install fine? Don't know. Maybe you could upgrade with an official ROM and automatically with the supplied SPL version and then do your personal upgrade.
But ask here in the forum, I cannot answer this.
Good luck!
1000 times thank you for your attention
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
vma
I am newbie with X7500
vma said:
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
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I think is correct.
vma said:
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
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SPL 3.5 is for ROMs adapted from X7510 (but not for X7510)
vma said:
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
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Yes.
vma said:
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
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Yes.
vma said:
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
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You must make superCID in your X7500 (>>>SPL1.2)
vma said:
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
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I think ROM for SPL3.5 in SPL1.x and for SPL1.x in SPL 3.5
Thanks for the resonse.
So here is the sum up for all Newbies like myself:
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The Hitchiker's Guide to understanding SPL on Athena
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1) SPL = second stage bootloader
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
3) Athena 7510 is originally shipped with SPL 3.5
4) for different firmware to be loaded, one need a hacked SPL, that allows flashing unsigned firmware
5) There is a modified SPL 3.5 for the Athena 7500 that allows WM6.x firmware, ported from the Athena 7510 to run on the 7500
6) SPL 1.2 and 3.5 are incompatible, regarding firmware, due to the different amount of memory reserved for the ROM. A SPL 1.2 firmware won't run on SPL 3.5 and the other way around, neither. Trying to do so, will make the black screen or reset loop happen.
7) to get SPL 1.2 Olipro (the hacked one), you need to do the UNLOCKER procedure (search sticky)
8) to get SPL 3.5 Olipro, you need to install AP 4.0 (it's a WM6.1 firmware, that installs the SPL 3.5 Olipro as well)
9) to be able to install SPL 1.2 compatible firmware again, you need to follow the DOWNGRADER procedure (search sticky)
10) if you want to have, for warranty issues, the original SPL 1.2 back, you need to install an official dump. I am not 100% sure about this one...
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I hope my statements are correct. If not, please let me know, so this post can act as a beginners first read. Currently I have to confess, that it is quite confusing to understand these 10 points... And I am already familiar with modding the BA, Universal, HP 514, VDA GPS, etc.
Thanks,
vma
PS: Yes, I ask silly questions, but still I try to bring something back...
vma said:
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
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No, X7500 original is SPL 1.1
Is there a way to go back from i.e. SPL 1.2olipro to official SPL?
Thanks,
vma