How many are breaking!? - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I will be purchasing one soon, but i see alot of problems! Is this just because no one posts "everything is good" and most posts are just going to be "mine broke"?
including, leds/trackball light, broken pixels, screen gap etc
also is there any thing in common between the broken ones? Ex mostly white ones are breaking
and does htc offer a warranty at all?, i found the hero for 580 usd w/ free shipping but no return policy/warranty...this is scaring me!
Should i get white with teflon coating or brown which i sort of like more?
also i plan on rooting the hero, and i want to be clear on if you can put it back to normal after rooting if i have to return to htc.
one last thing, a few posts said "mine died"... is this totally dead? will they be able to see if it was rooted in this case?
Sorry for the long post!
ps, please post color and (maybe model number???) and if its broken or not

xsirhc6x said:
I will be purchasing one soon, but i see alot of problems! Is this just because no one posts "everything is good" and most posts are just going to be "mine broke"?
including, leds/trackball light, broken pixels, screen gap etc
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Mine is an unlocked HTC-branded brown one. No hardware problems so far (2 weeks).
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also is there any thing in common between the broken ones? Ex mostly white ones are breaking
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Problems with build-quality (screen gap) seems isolated to some batches of operator-branded phones.
xsirhc6x said:
and does htc offer a warranty at all?, i found the hero for 580 usd w/ free shipping but no return policy/warranty...this is scaring me!
Should i get white with teflon coating or brown which i sort of like more?
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The brown one also has a rubbery-like surface. Not sure if its teflon, but its definitely not the usual hard&glossy surface that most phones have.
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also i plan on rooting the hero, and i want to be clear on if you can put it back to normal after rooting if i have to return to htc.
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It shouldn't be a problem. I'd also expect HTC to reload a "known good image" on any returned phone before they run any form of diagnostics test.

thanks very much!

No problems with mine either..going on two weeks, white unlocked from clove.co.uk.

No problem here

all good here... lovin my hero!!!

Mine is still perfectly fine - no issues with build/hardware at all.

personally
before i bought my htc hero
i read reviews
most of them having a go at this n that and forums complaining about broken this n that
personally and through experience
reviews are just dumb they pick out on anything and everything i suppose thats what reviews are for but some of the stuff ive read on hero are really lame
and broken hardware etc comes to one result
people not taking care of the phones ive had me hero for some time theres nothing on it not even a scratch tried scratching the screen and back with a key no marks
its a good robust phone
it wont let you down

shaji007 said:
personally
before i bought my htc hero
i read reviews
most of them having a go at this n that and forums complaining about broken this n that
personally and through experience
reviews are just dumb they pick out on anything and everything i suppose thats what reviews are for but some of the stuff ive read on hero are really lame
and broken hardware etc comes to one result
people not taking care of the phones ive had me hero for some time theres nothing on it not even a scratch tried scratching the screen and back with a key no marks
its a good robust phone
it wont let you down
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well i just have to point out something. I bought my phone a week ago and till a few days ago, me too i thought that i was a happy hero owner until i read issues about the led thing and checked my phone. I do not know if i have the headphone prob as i never checked it out. What i want to say is that some issues are present and you wont notice them unless u pay attention to them.
Do u want to say that gap issues between the screen and more than 30 ppl complaining about issues with led,trackball and headphones ( probably more but some of us do not know it yet) are due to the fact that we dont take care of our phones????

I'm gonna jump right in, and just say. i've had my hero for 2 weeks and loving it.
This is my first android phone, so I took a little getting used to, think the missus is getting fed up with me checking forums and stuff. But all in all I am extremly happy with my Hero.
I use it everyday for:
E-mail
Facebook
Calls
Messages
USB Modem
Surfing
RSS
Podcasts
Performs better than my Ipod Touch ever did, and I almost never have to hook it up to the laptop... Loving IT!

so far mine works fine (1 week). the gap is a problem with some branded phones but mine (T-Mobile Germany "2G Touch") has no gap. the problems with the headphones and LED seem to be software related, since there is a workaround to manually activate the headphone again.
oh and BTW I <3 Hero. best phone i ever had.

got 2 on first release from orange (graphite), 6 weeks ago, 1 for me and 1 for me gf.
no screen gap issues, no dead pixels on arrival, but i had one appear after 2 weeks, right down bottom right of phone, extremely small and never notice it at all unless im on dead pixel detect.
gfs phone hasnt any dead pixels as of yet.
not a single other problem like leds or headphones.
2 totally happy customers here.

Totally happy with mine, no hardware problems so far.
Best phone I've ever had especially with how much I
Like to mess with stuff.

I was happy only one day. If I use longer (about 10 min) my Hero screen starts flashing. If I make reset, everything is ok for some period. I hope it's not serious problem.

I had the LED issue for a while, but just updated to the new rom, and they are back, so this could be a software, not hardware issue
Oh, and love love love the phone

I have read many posts saying that the new ROM update will fix LED and Headphone jack issues.
I just bought a phone on eBay myself, haven't had the chance to play around with it too much since I need to change my plan beforehand, but I have turned it on and look around and everything is fine. It is a White Unlocked one. I must say, the Teflon coating is like nothing I've ever felt before on a phone, it just makes it feel like a million bucks!
But besides the color, which is up to you, I would say get the phone! There is always a 1 year manufacturer warranty, even if the seller doesn't offer you one of their own.
An official HTC update will be coming out VERY soon if you don't like the idea of loading up a custom ROM (although it is highly recommended as there are added quirks such as root access).

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Evo 3d quality control

I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
Thanks
poweroutlet said:
I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
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No loose buttons or anything of the nature on my device , so far so good, and yeah they always find something wrong with the phone , you should been last year for the EVO 4G forums were hammer about it last year, just get the device and judge it on your own terms after 3 weeks if you think is no for you just get another device which most likely will have some problems too, I do recomend insurance tho cause you never know what could happen
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poweroutlet said:
I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
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No trolling...
Don't judge a phone by its forums. Simple as that. If you do, every phone looks like its riddled without issues. People go to forums looking for answers about issues with the phone. Just get one. If you happen to have one of the issues (check before leaving the store) just hand it back over and ask for another. It really is that easy. That's what I did. I got one without issues first time though. But I went through a standard checklist I have in my head before leaving the store.
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Well the tilted screen is nothing, I am a perfectionist, and Im able to get over the slightly and barely noticable tilted screen. In fact I didnt notice till people complained about it. the loose 2d 3d button is also no biggie. Yellow tinted screen? I dont think you would realize you had it unless its next to a blue tinted screen in which case you may prefer the blue over the yellow, but alone it make no difference.
Unfortunately alot of is true I replaced one for stuck green pixels and this ones screen has a slight tilt , a tiny missing spec of paint bye the menu button and light bleed at the bottom . Lots of folks here would return it for just one of these issues but I can live with it not a big Deal unless your putting it under the microscope .
I say inspect it well before you leave the store and if nothing jumps out at you don't look for it
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This same issue keeps me from buying one. I am off contract and would like to buy one off of eBay because they run for about 350 NIB there but I am afraid to get a bad one.
But also granted as some posters said the og evo also had problems during release as well. Maybe it's best to wait until they get through the first gen releases
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it is no worse than any other phone that i have been a part of.. there are always bad eggs in a batch, you just pray you dont get one.. when the hero came out forever ago, it had the dust under the screen issues, i know people that had all kinds of issues with the orig evo.. the problem in the 3d forum is you are getting a lot of very vocal people, all coming from multiple devices.. and there is a lot of ignorace floating around too.. as well as people are looking for things not to like since we dont have permenant root yet..
i personally have no issues with the phone, i know several other people who have it as well, and they have no issues.. i wouldnt worry about it, if you get one with an issue, take it back..
felacio said:
No trolling...
Don't judge a phone by its forums. Simple as that. If you do, every phone looks like its riddled without issues. People go to forums looking for answers about issues with the phone. Just get one. If you happen to have one of the issues (check before leaving the store) just hand it back over and ask for another. It really is that easy. That's what I did. I got one without issues first time though. But I went through a standard checklist I have in my head before leaving the store.
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+1 this.
I'm on my 2nd completely perfect E3D. I went through a bunch trying to find one with a good radio and couldn't. They all suck...but not as bad as the Samsung radios...trust me. It is likely that it is mostly cosmetic in nature anyway.
...and those other ones I had them open up and turn on? All perfect in all of the ways that are typically mentioned as fubar on this forum. The only thing I noticed was vary levels of screen-tilt. Nothing major. I'm anal about stuff like that, but, I didn't even find any of them distracting...though I did make it a point to take one without any.
That's how forums are. When I went looking for a new truck I looked around, 95% of the people there are people who just had **** luck...the other 99.5% of the people who purchased these trucks had none of those problems. But, when you get something and it performs as expected you don't tell everyone about it--but when something is screwed up you tell everybody.
Same for my current apartment. I read on all the rental sites and you would think this place was a vermin infested ghetto that had piss-smell in the hallways, ceilings caving in, holes in walls and daily knife fights in the parking lot....even though it they are actually the luxury apartments with every amenity...I have not once seen "garbage in all the halls all the time" that was mentioned, nor have I ever once "smelled them smoking drugs" in the stairwells. The dumpsters are never "over flowing with trash" and not only is the parking lot not "full constantly i have to park a mile away from my house" as stated by many people, there is in fact 4-5 times more parking than tenants....
When I ran a computer repair shop it seemed obvious that compaq couldn't make a computer that ran to save their goddamned life...cuz I only saw the broken ones.
Complainers complain because they got something that doesn't work how they thought it would/is supposed to. You can't blame them for being upset and loud...but the vast majority all got something that does exactly what it is supposed to (for the most part) so has no need to go on and on about it.
Ide do craigslist not ebay ide have to see it my friend at radio shack let me inspect 2 the first time and three the next they all had (dust ?) Under the screen . So I've got the best of five and have the issues mentioned above
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All valid concerns. I don't think the phone has bad quality control, just some really minor stuff that perfectionists (xda-ists) notice. When you go to the store, ask them to take it out of the box and tell them you want to inspect the screen BEFORE it is activated. Don't let them tell you they can't power it up without activating it. That's not true. If you see it first, you can judge for yourself.
Mike
Here's a tip launch the camera app on 3d and cover the lens to make the screen black . The first one slipped bye because the Green specs where only visible on 3d weird I know . Didn't notice till I watched the stupid green lantern movie
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Thanks for the responses.
I plan to ask the sprint store to let me inspect the phone before activating. I should be able to check for dead pixels easily along with loose buttons. To be honest I can't even notice the tilted screen from the pictures posted here and I certainly didn't notice it on the evo 3d on display at the sprint store. I hope I get a good unit.
An awesome phone
I guess I'm lucky -- hardware-wise, my 3D seems perfect.
Firmware-wise, I could give you a list of (mostly minor) areas where IMHO the 3D is a step backward from the EVO 4G. However, I acquired my 4G only in January of this year, by which time HTC and Sprint must have ironed out most or all of the issues. With a few more OTA updates the 3D should be unstoppable.
For me, the speed of the new CPU and Sense 3.0 are reason enough to get the 3D. When you go to test the phone, check out the new weather app, for example -- sweet!
jasmithers said:
I guess I'm lucky -- hardware-wise, my 3D seems perfect.
Firmware-wise, I could give you a list of (mostly minor) areas where IMHO the 3D is a step backward from the EVO 4G. However, I acquired my 4G only in January of this year, by which time HTC and Sprint must have ironed out most or all of the issues. With a few more OTA updates the 3D should be unstoppable.
For me, the speed of the new CPU and Sense 3.0 are reason enough to get the 3D. When you go to test the phone, check out the new weather app, for example -- sweet!
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Yeah, I'm not too terribly worried about software issues. For that we have HTC which will probably address most issues with OTAs and also the great community here to offer further support.
I am on my second... First one was perfection except 3g reception was non-existent. This one has much better reception, but all the hard buttons are mushy and non responsive and the ****ing 2D/3D button rattles like a banshee. None of these were issues in first one. Looks like I am gonna chance a third try tomorrow.
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Quality control on these phones is aweful. I've been through 3 in 4 days. I would have had my 4th today but I'm sick of returning phones. First phone took green pics. 2nd one took blotchy pics and the cameras were not even close to being centered properly and my 3rd and current one is having problems with the screen becoming unresponsive.
I was the first person in my town to own a EVO 4g and that phone was awesome from day one.
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I agree with what most of you guys have said. To add to that tho, I think with anything tech related, the people with problems are only a small minority, and because they do have problems they're gonna be the loudest, and that's all you'll ever hear esp. on a site like this. It's like eating out at a restaurant. I'm betting money that 9 times out of 10 you're more likely to go out of your way to write a novel online abt a restaurant you got horrible service from, than you are to even think abt reviewing the restaurant at all if you got average service. So I would say that you see more complaint threads because the majority of us with good EVO's don't start threads abt how average our EVO's are. Although if people do have legit problems, by all means they should be allowed to let the world know. It just sucks when their problems come from them being OCD, then it really is like a bad apple spoiling the barrel or however that saying goes.
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Simply put if you get it you'd better check it out before you even leave the store. HTC's QC on this phone was absolutely terrible. How they managed to miss the tons of phones with tilted screens is beyond me.
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i agree this tread
Optimus 3d have only battery problem= no problem
It seems like everyone at XDA has something in common. We are all OCD and we will find something wrong with almost everything.
To a normal person, not one issue here would have any effect on them or would they even know what we were talking about.

The great Lumia 920 conspiracy.......

Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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I've been using the 920 for 2.5 months now and I have none of your issues. I had the restart bug but it got fixed with portico update. also there is some dust under the FFC but i don't care because it is not on the lense and it don't use it anyway.
i know about black screen and factory reset bug but i read for the 1st time that there should be major problems with the SIM card or the hardware buttons.
NSAgent said:
Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
Son Loves it!!
Heelfan71 said:
Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
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My son has had the 920 since it came out...Other than *****ing about the lack of the most popular apps (instagram, temple run, Jetpack Joyride...etc) the phone has been nothing but flawless. He will never give it up because he is an xbox junkie lol
i've had it for almost 2 months now..
only issue i've had is the crashing (normally every couple of days), since updating seems ok so far...I've flashed a few 'roms' to it, EE branded and normal
I thought the screen going blank in calls was supposed to happen? Like to save power? last couple of phones i've had turn the screen off when you put it to your head?
I'll be honest, i'm a little disapointed in windows phone 8, after coming from 7 with no crashes for a year (apart from once when i started messing with the registry) I found windows phone 8 quite shocking, coming from android/windows mobile i'd say its not to bad, but in someways it seems a downgrade. But so far no crashes with the latest update, and i'm hoping it stays that way, but honestly, I have a feeling your issues are isolated.
Also had the chance to use the new nexus 4 the other day, if theres a cover up going on, i'd say its those who say android is smooth and responsive....
I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
voluptuary said:
Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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I agree, since the last update I haven't had very many problems at all. And since I haven't been having issues I haven't been coming to the forums as much. I just come in every once in a while now to see if there's anything new. I'm not constantly hounding for an answer to my problems on a daily basis since I don't have problems. It's my guess that other people who have perfectly working phones would have like minds as me... or just not visit the forums at all.
No bricking during factory reset (had to do it once and I'm not going to do it again just to prove a point).
Battery life is awesome.
Hardware buttons are working fine.
Blank screen during calls isn't an issue for me since the proximity sensor works almost all the time, I think.... at least, it hasn't been a big enough concern for me that I actually notice it.... guess I should keep track of it.
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Pre-portico
No stability issues, but craptastic daylight camera and bluetooth connectivity issues
Portico:
Unstable. Reboots at least twice a day.
Good daylight camera
Good bluetooth connectivity.
Think people have to make a choice about the portico.
unstable and functional or stable and unfunctional.
Lemark said:
I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
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This is also the main thing I'm missing, coming from Nokia N8 the situations was really a great app...
I think Nokia lumia phones in general have a lot of issues, as does Windows Phone. It's just there are so few users even if there was a problem, it would seem isolated. Microsoft's share in the smartphone market didn't even budge at all in 2012. WP users are not power users so they just run back to the store to get an exchange. Even the lumia 920 forum at wpcentral.com is slow as molasses. 90% of the posts are very shallow anyway. Most don't even know what screen size their phone is or what processor its running. the camera is just AMAZING and the phone is PERFECT, over and over again. Of course, this forum isn't any better. The only difference being the plethora of unlock threads, because xda is international.
Your description of WP users is fairly accurate & the market segment MS is going after. The enthusiast market is small & even on Android accounts for a very small % of sales. The easiest way to solve an issue is by exchanging the phone, if you have that option available to you. A lot of issues people are having are either caused by defective hardware or a bad flash IMO, which is an issue on any of the platforms.
Do people not expect bugs and hiccups at launch for these kinds of devices?
It happens. And it's not as bad as you perceive; it's not a conspiracy.
AW: The great Lumia 920 conspiracy.......
If ms allows developers create store accounts for free I bet there would be more apps on store.,.
I get what you guys are saying, but phone busting issues like that black screen on calls and bricking on hard resets shouldn't be common enough to have a thread full of people experiencing them.
If anyone knows of any way to get the phone to read SIM cards again, I'd like your help. I still miss using my lumia 920 :'(
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I have experianced just about every issue in this thread. I have users of the 920 I support for other stuff and I see how they basically ignore them as they did on their Blackberry or iPhone. I had the brick issue... news flash as I posted in another thread, it is not bricked!!! use the Nokia Care Suite, gets you going no problem. During my day I may deal with just about every phone they see at an AT&T store (Tmobile, Sprint,or Verizon for that matter)... they all have issues. Have you ever seen an iPhone user change their password on their laptop and not update the iPhone? Lets say you need to get to something before updating that password, like they changed the server setting trying to update it... go ahead try it. Drop calls, Steve Jobs had to properly instruct dumb iPhone users how to hold an iPhone. Andriod, perfect????? WTF are serious?? And becuase of that piece of software, it does not matter what hardware you are talking about.
My phone is limited compared to Andriod, I can agree with that.... but I can do more with fewer Apps and I like that. The 920 has had some hiccups along the way, but the hardware I have right now is as solid as any other phone out there, actually physically a tougher phone then any other top tier phone.
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they all have issues.
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This is exactly what I was trying to get at. These sorts of issues and threads are everywhere for many high profile smartphone launches, especially lately with this insane obsession with HW spec wars.
I've seen much worse, many times, you will not buy a high end smartphone at launch these days without having some sort of worry that there will be a game-breaking bug or defect.
WP 8 for 3 months:
NO ISSUES
POWER USER (i had portico when the first roms were available on navi)
my question is, are all these faulty devices on ATT or another crap american service , cause i think this may be your problem, ive had to work on vodaphone orange tmobile and ee 920's and 820's and i can say with pride that the only issue people have is the lack of popular apps., there is no conspiracy. why the eff are you people needing to hard reset anyway wtf are you doing to your phones?
I have to admit I've been having freezing issues regularly, often when it's just sat on my desk or in my pocket, and almost every night while on USB charge. I've also noticed on the odd occasion a reboot, but only because of my SIM being PIN locked.
Mine was a German Vodafone one, which I flashed on day 1 to the CV_GB ROM, then again to CV_GB Portico ROM. Maybe I'll try a different one, as I've heard the EE one has fewer issues.

Is this phone really THAT bad?

I've been waiting for the Lumia 920 to be back in stock at the H3G shop here in my town. Now it's back but I've been feeling some bad vibes around the forums lately. I hear about users having reboots, lockups, dead phones, dust underneath the ffc, bad battery life, buggy browser, lag, light leaks, creaks, herpes and whatnot, so this got me wondering...is this stuff mostly bs or there's actually something wrong with this phone? Has anyone regretted his purchase badly so far? Did the Portico actually help or it's just too little and too late? Please let me know, because reading all of this stuff really puzzled my will. Keep in mind that at this point Android is no longer an option for me, so the only other phone I could go for right now instead of this one would be the iPhone5. I wouldn't mind waiting for something else to come out, but honestly this 800 feels a bit EOL right now and I'd really like to drop it, my battery is also starting to suck a bit so...
Looking forward to hear from you guys, I'm really starting to feel that itch, I've been using this phone for almost a year now, this is kind of a record to me lol.
You are unshure ... why should you by excatly this phone?
You mentioned all the negative threads but you could finde more positive threads about this phone.
It's just your focus. Go into a shop and test the phone.
If you buy and it serves the first week in a good way you can keep it otherwise return it.
I'm happy with my Lumia 920
I have my Lumia 920 (AT&T) for two months and I really love it!
I got the Portico update I the very first day and during the first week of use my phone hung up once. I was worried just like you because I read in the forums many users complaining about the stability issues they had, but honestly that's the only issue I've had with this device! No light leaks, reboots, dust, lag, etc..
There is strange rattling sound when the phone vibrates, but it's nothing to worry about and I got used to it anyway.
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@Anis108: Actually I always liked the phone, I love the design, the sturdyness, the screen, the camera, wireless charging, Nokia goodies, and overall I'm just in love with the platform. However I'm also concerned about the reliability of the phone in the software department and I'm also concerned about how the thing can hold up through an extended period of time, since I'm planning on keeping it for a good while. Holding a phone in my hand for a few minutes can't really tell me much about these things, and even a week may not be enough to me, since I tend to be quite picky. Getting a new device is always a big leap of faith for me, especially on contract.
@Boshko: thanks, this is the kind of feedback I'm after...I just wanna hear the good, the bad and the ugly about this phone, because obviously reading topics made by people having issues will make the phone look bad, whereas those about how great the 920 is will gather mostly hardcore fans. I just wanna hear some random opinions to make up my mind here
AW: Is this phone really THAT bad?
Portico fixed my random reboots...
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I've had mine since it was released. Love it. Great design, functions beautifully. Haven't had any of the issues posted. I must be living right.
Have mine since it was released last October. No major problems. I've rebooted twice because I think something was sucking my battery too fast. Uninstalled couple of stock apps (stock portfolio, finance apps) and things are back to normal. Love the camera even though I don't use it everyday. Battery life is awesome for me - I routinely get close to two full days (about 40 hrs or more).
All in all, I'm a happy customer.
As far as forum problems, you have to remember that you're more likely to hear what's wrong with the device rather than the positive. Those who have problems come and post their issues so that they can be resolved with other people's help. If you are happy with device and have no problems, you're less likely to post your positive experience.
I'd say don't go by the forums - try the phone yourself and see if you like it or not.
My $0.02.
Using the phone for month and a half I can say it was a good purchase:
Depending on the use that you have intended for it, it may be what you are looking for.
If you are a person who likes to hack things, and wants to see how can you make the phone more customizable via tweaks and those stuffs, then this may not be the ideal for you as this thing is very encrypted and secure(for now).
If you are a corporate guy office and exchange will suit you because are optimized for the platform and consume very little battery.
If you are a globetrotter (travels a lot) then the GPS Navigation apps will suit you.
For the battery life there are two points:
on the first 2 weeks the battery will calibrate itself and you may see that after that time battery life is considerably better.
All the apps that runs on the background only runs for 2 weeks if not opened by you, WP8 has this by default, to enable background running again or to reset the counter just open the app (Microsoft did this for battery life)
I don't have dust on my ffc, camera is very good, phone is solid and at first feels kind of heavy but one gets used to it.
the WP8 is still an ongoing project, so many things are missing on the software side, but are on their way.
Overall I like this phone because I bought it and fulfilled my expectations: Sunlight readability, screen usable with gloves and true offline GPS Navigation, those are what I need for doing my job and the phone is very good at it.
The downsides: Some apps make the phone really hot (not optimized GPS Apps, like "Navigation 3D"), the battery consumption increases way more than other smartphones in low coverage areas and drains the phone quickly (30% more o less), still many software features missing.
So far after portico I have had 3 reboots(1 freeze but occurs on specific hardware calls, like turning "bluetooth on" on very rare conditions).
I plan to stick with this phone for a while, after 3 years with android I felt that the platform was not bringing nothing new, new physical design yes but the OS was always the same and nothing new since android 2.3.
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Have mine since it was released last October. No major problems. I've rebooted twice because I think something was sucking my battery too fast. Uninstalled couple of stock apps (stock portfolio, finance apps) and things are back to normal. Love the camera even though I don't use it everyday. Battery life is awesome for me - I routinely get close to two full days (about 40 hrs or more).
All in all, I'm a happy customer.
As far as forum problems, you have to remember that you're more likely to hear what's wrong with the device rather than the positive. Those who have problems come and post their issues so that they can be resolved with other people's help. If you are happy with device and have no problems, you're less likely to post your positive experience.
I'd say don't go by the forums - try the phone yourself and see if you like it or not.
My $0.02.
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Couldn't say it better..
I've had mine now for about 3 months. Came from (Smart phones) HTC OneX, HTC Evo 3d, Samsung Galaxy S, Moto POS, HTC G1. The 920 is without a doubt, for me, the best phone I've had yet. Everyone's analysis is subjective. Mine is no exception obviously. I will say only this. I have no qualms what-so-ever about recommending this phone to others. Both the hardware performance and the OS for me have been exceptional. Maybe I'm lucky or the exception.
Unfortunately, I'm one of the victims here. To start off, I LOVE this phone - I really do. It has everything I could want, and when it does work it is amazing (wireless charging, NFC, beautiful screen). However I personally am on my 3rd phone. The first 2 had problems locking-up forcing me to do the "power + volume-down" reset. The second phone also got a large piece of dust under the front camera. Fortunately, the 3rd one seems to be working. My wife is on her 2nd phone - same locking-up problem however hers only seemed to lock-up when being wirelessly charged. Now, a friend of mine who just got one is having the same wireless charging lock-up problem.
So I have to ask - what the hell is going on with this phone? By now, Nokia should have all of the "kinks" worked-out, Portico has been delivered and we're still seeing this crap? Oh - and I forgot to mention the "rattle" when vibrate is turned on. Grrr.....
I'm now using an HTC 8x for a while as I moved to China and haven't gotten my 920T yet, and guess what? The 8x works like a champ. Just wish I had wireless charging and more flash storage and I wouldn't go back to the 920T....
Is it just me or does it sound like that people that have flashed from a non stock ROM are the ones that are talking about the most issues? Is debranding and unlocking really worth all the issues this seems to be creating?
I have had mine stock for 3 months now and have not had one single issue that anyone in this entire 920 section has complained about. There is one very tiny light leak if I look down at the screen from the speaker end at an angle that I would never normally look from so it is irrelevant to me.
It just seems that the one common thing that most of these issues have is they are all on flashed phones.
I don't see the point of unlocking and debranding if the phone works for you as it is. We all know from past models that even unlocked there is very little you can do to one of these to customize it.
I have always been taught that if it is not broken, then don't fix it. If it works and does what it needs to as stock then why not leave it stock? Seems a lot more dependable that way to me.
I had rebooting Issues with me german Lumia 920 until I flashed it to the Austrian Portico ROM (I live in Austria). I didn't want to wait for the Update. But I have not had any issues since so flashing seems not to be the culprit. Many of the other issues did not occur on my phone at all.
I'm very happy with it since Portico . Before Portico I had some reservations but that was mainly due to the anxiety that it might reboot again (happened every few days).
Let me just tell you now, I am a perfectionist in the worst kind of way. I have issues with this phone but for some reason, they don't bother me. I'm willing to put up with them, I LOVE this phone so much. I have the light leaks but they're not apparent unless you put your eye very very close to the screen, in the dark and inspect the inside edges of the phone. If I press on the SIM card tray, the chassis of the phone creaks a bit but it's also the thinnest part of the phone so it makes sense. My phone locks up in standby every now and again so I have to reboot it but volume down + power but it only started happening AFTER the portico update. Also, ALL the Lumia 920's rattle when they vibrate because of the OIS in the camera. It's normal. I turned off vibration anyway, cause I don't like it.
I can tell you, the camera is NEXT-TO-NONE, stills and video. The call quality is excellent. The display is awesome and the durability is excellent and I love the cleanliness of the OS. NFC works on this phone the way it SHOULD work. Intuitively. I'm really good with phone as I used to work for a carrier but I couldn't for the life of me get NFC to work on my galaxy nexus, or my S3. They will be updating the phone this holiday season and it can only get better from here! :good:
I have no problems at all from mine. Fantastic device.
well the core functions work flawlessly as compared to other smartphones.
catches gps signal easily for me, camera starts in instance, typing is comfortable and more accurate than android and entire UI is fluid as opposed to android and iphone5 for me.
only problems are the light leak, battery life (but almost all phones have battery life issues unless u use blackberry on 2g signal).
and the dust settles between screen and chassis very easily.
I love mine, the camera is great so is the screen.
Don't have any of the problems that others have had, the only issue for me was once I updated the nokia apps to the here versions, my battery life died a death. a quick uninstall fixed that. but now I only have the map app, will try the others one at a time to find the culprit.
"We were unable to determine the media usage rights for this content" error Lumia 920
americasteam said:
I have no problems at all from mine. Fantastic device.
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We were unable to determine the media usage rights for this content" error Lumia 920
Hello there , I need some help , I am new on the Lumia 920 ,I have downloaded through XBOX and paid music songs but now suddenly and after one month I cant listen
to these songs and get instead : "We were unable to determine the media usage rights for this content" error Lumia 920" Its DRM related I think...Does anyone have a fix ? thanks for the help and sorry if its the wrong thread...
Thanks for your insights guys. Actually I kinda made up my mind, I'm getting the 920 either tomorrow or early next week, still can't decide between white and black tho, any suggestions? Are there any differences in terms of durability?
No problems here.
Go into a hospital and you'll see people with problems, you shouldn't assume humans are rubbish.
Go onto a forum and you'll see people post with problems, you shouldn't assume everyone will have problems.

Worst phone I've had

I got a new rezound 2 years ago and after a month it stopped working. I got 3 replacements, all did not work. Got a Galaxy Nexus instead. . Just got the HTC One M8 on my new contract. I was afraid to get another HTC, but it's been great!
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I got a new rezound 2 years ago and after a month it stopped working. I got 3 replacements, all did not work. Got a Galaxy Nexus instead. . Just got the HTC One M8 on my new contract. I was afraid to get another HTC, but it's been great!
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I got the Rezound shortly after it came out and used the hell out of it for nearly 3 years until a partition got corrupted and it ceased charging, at which point I ante'd up for an M8. The M8 is far and away the best phone I've ever owned, but the Rezound faithfully held it's own all the way up through Android 4.4.4. The Rezound was my third HTC after the original Incredible and the Thunderbolt. The
Rezound was better than both of those by a wide margin. The Incredible simply devoured it's battery to the point I broke down and bought a massive extended battery. The Thunderbolt really did need that, too, but given that the Thunderbolt was a beast in every regard, I didn't think it needed to be even more heavy and unwieldy to haul about. After those two devices, the Rezound struck me as the phone HTC had been trying to build for years. That said, the M8 is truly a different kind of beast. Aside from being a physically gorgeous phone, it's extremely capable, too. It makes an SGS5 feel cheap and flimsy, and it's faster, too. Let me say that again.... The M8 is FASTER than an SGS5, bone stock device compared to bone stock device. Think about that for a second. A phone running HTC's 600 pound gorilla of a user interface called Sense 6.0 is actually faster than an SGS5. That is nothing short of amazing. I love the M8 because it runs Sense faster and smoother than the Rezound ran CM11 while overclocked to 1.72 GHz. If you would have said HTC would make a phone like that 3 or 4 years ago people would have laughed in your face.
I got my very first cell phone last Thanksgiving, a cheapy mediatek. Within a few weeks of having it, I stumbled across an article about rooting somewhere. To make a long story shorter, a week after that and ty to finding this forum + Kingo I had that cheapy China phone rooted lol(and it still sucked). A month after that I got nokia lumina 525, on x-mas, which was a notch better, but yet worse haha. I quickly learned that MS's play store just sucks. -.-
TYG soon after that a friend gave me their old phone. A very well taken care of, almost pristine mint Rezzie. I had greatly abused and put it thru hell while I learned what I can do to it + fell in love with it at the sametime. When my Rezzie isn't happy, believe me, it makes damn sure I realize it isn't. The past few months I believed it has been happy for the most part. Now finally and very belatedly I have begun to realize it never was happy since the day I got it till just the other day ROFL.
I found a new interesting app to try on it, \play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=artur.m3rv.myszka.speedupswap and 1 nano second later and ever since I swear my poor 5+yr old rezzie is now as fast or even faster + smoother than all my friend's great new phones are.
Plus the history here on this very forum + the story behind the making of them is in the least is interesting if not downright engrossing.
ATM, I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my otw eBay order... a dead Rezzie lol. Seller said it won't do nothing, no boot, but it's LCD light lites when charged. It's been in a box since 2012/13 supposedly after 6ish months of light use. :drooling: As I'm typing this on my non-OCed S-on rezzie.
Yea you can call me a belated fan of them I suppose. I wish I could turn back time and was given a chance to change your bad experience. -sigh-
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I didn't notice initially how old this thread was till after I posted the above...ooops
Anyways to follow up on my post above...
I received that "dead Rezzie" that I had ordered off of eBay.
Within 5minutes of opening it, I not only had it booting up just fine as can be.
It's almost foreign to me Sense interface was eagerly asking me to draw a pattern.
With in my 3rd to fourth try....the phone unlocked! Rofl
Seriously it just flew open and it was the same as it was on the very last day it's owner had last used it.
ummmm....it was still checking all her email accts and fb acct, play for updates, etc u get the picture. It's previous owner is a professional dog trainer who I believe has recently moved out of the country. I understand from reading a few of the texts on it, etc. Anyways she has tons of stuff on it, pictures, texts + accounts which the phone can still access.
I ran it's MEID and it comes up clean as a bell.
I thanked the seller via eBay's feedback A+++'ed him and said it worxs great tyvm! loool
I also sent an eMail to it's previous owner, telling her this very story on how I ended up with it.
I asked her if she would like any of the stuff thats on it before I reset it.
I literally have the last 3yrs of this unknown girl's life in the palm of my hand.
Now re-read that last sentence 5 more times.
Her emails, her text and she texted very often...must be thousands of them sheeze. I know she has 2 dogs and even that they have their own bedroom upstairs somewhere and each their own bed, which they are "tucked" nightly into with their daily laundered fleece blankets. (gawd i envy them) I know that she likes to drink "bubblely" after work on most days + when she is working out.....
Oh yea I can probably even go on a eBay shopping spree on her dime now + on other major online sites too. :tempting:
:angel: nah , I'm not like that though :angel:
She still hasn't replied to my email and it's been about a week.
I think maybe what had happened was she had taken her rezzie in for a trade-in on a new phone. Either she couldn't get it to boot either or just wanted a new one.
Then the place she traded it in at inspected it and couldn't get it going, then tried selling it on eBay to part buyers. Then I came along via eBay looking for a new battery for my Rezzie and Bam it came up along with the batteries in my search.
I spotted it and remember thinking well it's not much more $$'s then a battery and it comes with one....
If I can get it going I'll have an extra Rezzie to play around with or to keep has an extra or to re-sell right back on eBay for 4-5x's more then what I paid for it easily. In the least I would have another battery and an extra phone for parts if I couldn't get it working. Sooo lol I bought that instead of a battery. Hoping it wouldn't be as tedious as fixing a broken screen is to fix.
You see, I began to notice in my own Rezzie sometimes after a bad crash, usually a real niice bad one, like a niice bad one from my must-have + fav, chrome browser, it boots differently.
Lol that eBay Rezzie just needed someone who understood how to boot it is all.
:laugh: and that was what I was hoping for to begin with on it :laugh: There was nothing ever wrong with it actually
Yep, i love these things
Moral of my story: BE extremely CareFul of what you do with your old "dead" phones...it may just end up on eBay and get a buyer that is not as honest as I am.
I'm sure there are those out there, that earn a living off of the info they get from such phones.
Hugz
That's a good warning to users, you should share a shorter version of it on the social media sites... The warning is probably not as relevant here as most of our users have slightly above average knowledge, but the "normal" user has no idea about this stuff.
Thanks for your story.
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That's a great idea!
Lol, I've been warning people I know on an individual basis.
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lol.. this was not a bad phone at all. Only thing I hated was the battery life. It came with a very poor 1600mah battery and you couldnt get much more than 2 1/2 hours of screen on time. I never did buy a better battery, it was already a bit old by the time I thought of it. The ICS update made everything about Sense twice as slow. It SUCKED! I went from a fast ohone to one that lagged everywhere from Sense to the choppy scrolling in the browsers. Firefox was the only fast browser that didnt lag. Eventually.. I had broken the screen (lol dont ask how) .. and after I put in a new digitizer, it worked for awhile then slowly started messing up because the digitizer/lcd assy kept pushing up a tiny bit due to the lcd ribbon cable not pushing back far enough behind it. Now.. the touchscreen is hit or miss where it actually will touch. And the soft keys stopped working completely. (Yay ) id still like to restore it. My S4 has been good, but the screen is NO WHERE near as bright as the Rezound is.
I ended up trading that eBay Rezzie in at Verizon. Verizon gave me $300 for it, on this past Christmas.
The owner never did reply to my emails.
I still have my original Rezzie. It's still running like a champ while being chocked full of apps that are beyond it's time.
I will keep it forever, being the foolishly sentimental person that I am.
Now-a-daze when I pick up my old Rezzie(still on my nightstand + charged), I smile and I wonder at how much it had taught me + I realize how much older it now suddenly seems to be to me x.x
....just a month ago it was the bestest phone I ever had had.
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Breaking NEWS: LG insider confirms faulty phones!

I ended up talking to a phone tester that works for LG here in San Diego. She's from South Korea, she deals directly with corporate in Seoul and translates for them. I told her my V10 is a glitchy freakhouse and that it was all her fault.
She said they know that a certain percentage of the phones are defective with overheating, GPS failure and other issues. She didnt tell me what percentage though so not sure how wide reaching this is. I realize that missing fact makes this a little less valuable info but I thought it was interesting enough to share.
No product is perfect. I've dodge most of the issues I see here in the forum, only heating issue I had was trying the set up a email with Exchange server.
Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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Don't even fall for that crap.
I am with my third V10, all of them with dead píxels and screen issues...LG quality control is a joke.
jbraft said:
No product is perfect. I've dodge most of the issues I see here in the forum, only heating issue I had was trying the set up a email with Exchange server.
Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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She didnt and wouldnt know and I'll tell you why. She explained their process. The testers just sit in an office and play with the phones, they dont use them in their daily lives. Then they send all issues to LG R&D who are supposed to diagnose and fix the issues.
Maybe they have other people doing more in-depth desting, I dont know but she is a contract employee of LG.
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Don't even fall for that crap.
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I'm not sure what your intention is here but if we dont bring things like this to light then we're not doing anything to help all the people who are getting bad GPS, dead pixels, etc. that is screwing up their daily lives and causing a ton of hassle. I'm not an activist but I'm also not going to completely ignore it when this phone got me all excited, cost me $700 and then turned out to screw up my week and waste a bunch of my time.
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I am with my third V10, all of them with dead píxels and screen issues...LG quality control is a joke.
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Yup, I agree. I'm going to return the one I have today or tomorrow. I want this phone to work so bad. I might try a new one, one more time.
Yea, not sure if its true but I have read in many forums how phones don't work properly out of the box and most were fixed by doing a reset on the phone. The first V10 I had was great except for WiFi. I get over 100 Mbps at home and every device gets the same speed. However, the V10 was reaching 10 Mbps...after the reset it worked great and speed was up. I did end up exchanging for a new one (just to make sure I had a good phone, why I got to do a reset to fix a new phone) and the new V10 is great, out of the box. I get GPS lock quick, great WiFi and no lag.
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She didnt and wouldnt know and I'll tell you why. She explained their process. The testers just sit in an office and play with the phones, they dont use them in their daily lives. Then they send all issues to LG R&D who are supposed to diagnose and fix the issues.
Maybe they have other people doing more in-depth desting, I dont know but she is a contract employee of LG.
I'm not sure what your intention is here but if we dont bring things like this to light then we're not doing anything to help all the people who are getting bad GPS, dead pixels, etc. that is screwing up their daily lives and causing a ton of hassle. I'm not an activist but I'm also not going to completely ignore it when this phone got me all excited, cost me $700 and then turned out to screw up my week and waste a bunch of my time.
Yup, I agree. I'm going to return the one I have today or tomorrow. I want this phone to work so bad. I might try a new one, one more time.
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Since english is not my primary language I will do an extraordinary effort to do this...I've passed for 4 V10's already. I was waiting by 9.00am October the 30th to get this wonderful device LG announced that hit every single check mark that I always wanted in a smartphone. My first impressions should've sufficed cause the first one they brought was scratched out of the box, yes, the metal bands were scratched, so obviously I asked for another and that one was ok at least on he outside.
After less than a month I started to notice some weird behavior when displaying some content with the brightness maxed to 100%...dead pixels everywhere( I made a post). I exchanged that unit to and to make the story short I am with my 4th V10(counting the scratched one) and this one has "only" one dead pixel(or an array cause I don't think we can spot one pixel on this devices with our bare eyes) with no other issues so am keeping it fighting my OCD every time I think about it. I don't want to call T-Mo again and put another exchange request cause I know it will come with dead pixels and/or other more problematic issues.
LG quality control is a joke, at this price point dead pixels policy should be 0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/help/how-lg-t3264290/page2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/help/dead-pixels-everywhere-t3263826
i have a lot of dead pixels and experiencing image retention issues. can someone help me? i dont know what to do.
Same here.
I have around 8 dead pixels on my phone, and my phone has guaranty but after contacting with guaranty they said only can repair and replace my phone lcd with another one.
SHAME ON YOU LG ???
I only see people complaining about phones bought from USA operators/stores, none bought on Amazon or other countries, I wonder
I bought my v10 on launch from vzw. No issues since day 1. Everything is spot on including the fingerprint sensor.
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I bought my v10 on launch from vzw. No issues since day 1. Everything is spot on including the fingerprint sensor.
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I suspect most of the "complaints" are propaganda from the competition
For complaints. Try a different brand if your not happy with LG. Make both you and LG happy, and move on.
I have had my V10 since December (from T-Mobile). Initially no problems to report, but the image retention issue has become progressively worse (as I type this, the image of this site is being temporarily "burned in"), and the GPS has only recently been failing to connect for navigation. my father also got a V10 the same day, but does not report these issues. User activity may be leading to a faster declining lifespan of phone, but both phones have had a drastic increase in overheating since receiving the Marshmallow update, which may be playing a role in the even greater descent into decomposition.
I've been a big fan of LG phones for years, but the V10 may not be able to keep up with the demand (I'm 19, so like most millennials, I use my phone constantly-possibly why I have this issue)
So my LG V10 has been perfect from day one. Now lets assume that every post on this thread is factual.
Then all we can do is say sorry it was you that got the bad phone, if you add all the posts here it's still less the half a percent bad phones, that's a pretty good number.

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