I currently have a HTC Magic but I am getting annoyed with the lack of decent stable roms for it so I have been shopping around and for my budget I have a choice of either an X10 mini or the new X8 but wanted to find out which would be better as I understand the X8 is like the X10 mini but with a bigger screen and a lower camera
Dony buy either of the phones as they are dum.
I was a xperia x1 user and my x1 stopped working as it had gone in water.
I bought a x8 and my friend also had saved moey to buy a x10 mini pro.
But let me tell you that its nor worth thr money you are spending and the X1 had 13 buttons on the front bottom the xperia just had 3 buttons on the front bottom.
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
adils3d said:
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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With a alternate Homelauncher (f.ex. ADW) you can bind the middle key with the dialer if you are already at the homescreen.
...and for the X8 and X10 use the sony-ericsson.com comparison tool and try to look at the phones at a market.
adils3d said:
Dony buy either of the phones as they are dum.
I was a xperia x1 user and my x1 stopped working as it had gone in water.
I bought a x8 and my friend also had saved moey to buy a x10 mini pro.
But let me tell you that its nor worth thr money you are spending and the X1 had 13 buttons on the front bottom the xperia just had 3 buttons on the front bottom.
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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Sorry to sound dumb but isn't the X1 a WM device? the 2 I asked about are both Android devices I only ask about these 2 devices as I hate WM and Apple iOS. My other oprion is to strech my budget for a HTC Wildfire (all of these handsets would be pay as you go)
VooDoo` said:
With a alternate Homelauncher (f.ex. ADW) you can bind the middle key with the dialer if you are already at the homescreen.
...and for the X8 and X10 use the sony-ericsson.com comparison tool and try to look at the phones at a market.
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I have looked at the comparison charts but I am more interested in 'real life' comparison rather then a spec for spec comparison
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Sorry to sound dumb but isn't the X1 a WM device? the 2 I asked about are both Android devices I only ask about these 2 devices as I hate WM and Apple iOS. My other oprion is to strech my budget for a HTC Wildfire (all of these handsets would be pay as you go)
I have looked at the comparison charts but I am more interested in 'real life' comparison rather then a spec for spec comparison
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i had also a x1 wm phone, and now i have x10 mini pro and had x10, x10 mini and htc wildfire....
If you will have a small phone get the mini, i only have the pro becouse i use the qwerty keyboard much.... the mini/pro is a great phone, but the wildfire has a ugly screen, then you use a picture as wallpaper is looks ugly.....
so if i was you i will look at x10 mini or x8....
my 2 cents
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i had also a x1 wm phone, and now i have x10 mini pro and had x10, x10 mini and htc wildfire....
If you will have a small phone get the mini, i only have the pro becouse i use the qwerty keyboard much.... the mini/pro is a great phone, but the wildfire has a ugly screen, then you use a picture as wallpaper is looks ugly.....
so if i was you i will look at x10 mini or x8....
my 2 cents
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Cheers for that I am not much of a qwerty keypad user I prefer the old T9 style predictive keypad as I don't text often and I can text a lot quicker with a keypad rather then a qwerty. I know what you mean about wallpapers on the wildfire as I had previously had a Tattoo with a similer size screen
My thought
Personally I like more X8. I've got X10 mini pro two months ago. I like it, It is nice device but small resolution restrict from getting all those great apps so it is not ideal. I also thought I will use HW keyboard a lot but most of time I'm just lazy to do it. On screen keyboard could be good enough for me. Camera with autofocus is nice but I have problem with fingerprints on lens everytime I check lens out. Such small phone is hard to avoid touching the lens. And also AF is not working perfectly. I experienced decently blured pictures from time to time (just bad focus, not shutter problem). So, with X8 you can save some money and still get slightly more usable device thus better resolution. Personally I'm thinking about switch to X8 from my X10 mini.
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Cheers for that I am not much of a qwerty keypad user I prefer the old T9 style predictive keypad as I don't text often and I can text a lot quicker with a keypad rather then a qwerty. I know what you mean about wallpapers on the wildfire as I had previously had a Tattoo with a similer size screen
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the x10 mini has a good t9 keyboard, but the x8 comes with a on-screen qwerty keyboard like the x10 and not as the mini's keyboard
disreguard adils3d's juvenile comments lol...
Anyway i have a mini pro, and its a gr8 little phone but i bought it specificly because i wanted a small smartphone and a taste of android with T9 style onsceen keypad for sms...using the slider more for emails etc.
The X8 Depends if a bigger screen is more important to you and your not bothered about the lesser camera fucntions and like an onscreen qwerty apart from that i dont think there is any difference apart from price.
In the uk o2 are selling the X8 for £130!!!!
unfortunatly when I went to get the x10 mini today from CEX it had been sold so in the end I ended up getting a HTC Hero instead as they didn't have anymore x10 mini's within my price range. The X10 mini was going for £130 unlocked/sim-free but as it was sold I got a HTC Hero for £120 + £15 to get it unlocked
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unfortunatly when I went to get the x10 mini today from CEX it had been sold so in the end I ended up getting a HTC Hero instead as they didn't have anymore x10 mini's within my price range. The X10 mini was going for £130 unlocked/sim-free but as it was sold I got a HTC Hero for £120 + £15 to get it unlocked
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Htc Hero is also a great phone, works good, and if you root it you kan put android 2.2 on it
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Htc Hero is also a great phone, works good, and if you root it you kan put android 2.2 on it
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I would do but I like the HTC Sense UI which I don't think is in 2.2 yet?
I currantly have 2.1 update 1
Gavincol78 said:
I would do but I like the HTC Sense UI which I don't think is in 2.2 yet?
I currantly have 2.1 update 1
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i don't know with sense but custom rom from villian team works great with hero
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/
X10 Mini is perfect small phone with lots of features better than X8
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X10 Mini is perfect small phone with lots of features better than X8
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I don't think that except camera there is any superior feature in mini than x8..
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As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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Well said..
ToTTenTranz said:
As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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That is another reason why I was glad they had sold the X10 mini and went for my HTC Hero which already had 2.1-update1 on it and the unlock for the HTC was actually £5.99 via a reputable ebay member express-codes so £120 for HTC Hero w/ 2.1-update1 + £5.99 unlock made for a much better choice instead of £130 for a X10 mini
I have both of them.
And if the camera was the same in the x8 as in the x10 mini pro, I think the x8 was the winner.
It works faster, batterylife is longer, the screens bigger size make a real diffrence.
I use the x10 pro as everyday use and the x8's just for fun, I simply love the x8 with the exeption of the camera.
And about updates, who cares really?
If there dosent come a official realese, im sure there will come one here.
Not something there is giving me a headic
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I have both of them.
And if the camera was the same in the x8 as in the x10 mini pro, I think the x8 was the winner.
It works faster, batterylife is longer, the screens bigger size make a real diffrence.
I use the x10 pro as everyday use and the x8's just for fun, I simply love the x8 with the exeption of the camera.
And about updates, who cares really?
If there dosent come a official realese, im sure there will come one here.
Not something there is giving me a headic
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Well that would be true if SE hadn't installed a locked bootloader, able to boot only their signed roms...
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I've been thinking of trading my HTC Tattoo for a Xperia X10 mini (maybe pro) what do you guys have to say?
I'd like to know what are tha main advantages/disadvantages of the mini if possible
Thanks in advance,
K.
hello,
it depends from your expectations...
why do you want exchange HTC Tattoo?
do you have any problems with it? because your phone has almost similar parameters, x10 mini has slightly better HW specifications, specially 5Mpx photo camera with autofocus and led flash is very good, better processor, but smaller battery capacity, in real life battery holds 2 days max. My record is 3 days but it was on business trip and I didn't used mobile data because of rooming, on other side I used GPS navigation and photo camera lot so it was a very good performance.
stillka said:
hello,
it depends from your expectations...
why do you want exchange HTC Tattoo?
do you have any problems with it? because your phone has almost similar parameters, x10 mini has slightly better HW specifications, specially 5Mpx photo camera with autofocus and led flash is very good, better processor, but smaller battery capacity, in real life battery holds 2 days max. My record is 3 days but it was on business trip and I didn't used mobile data because of rooming, on other side I used GPS navigation and photo camera lot so it was a very good performance.
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Thanks for your reply : )
Well my major factor for choosing one is that it's one of the phones I can afford on a contract (selling my Tattoo would get me the cash needed for it) and the fact that I can have Android 2.x with working camera and fm radio (if the x10 does have one xD)
I like my Tattoo (because of its size mainly) and the mini boasts of being the smallest Android so it doesn't seem like a bad change.
My main problem with my Tattoo is that HTC dropped us at Android 1.6 without caring because of the release of the Wildfire, and because of that xda devs never were able to get their hands on camera/radio 2.x drivers therefore one has to choose between camera (crappy) and radio or 2.x apps support. Really ungrateful position to be in.
KezraPlanes said:
Thanks for your reply : )
Well my major factor for choosing one is that it's one of the phones I can afford on a contract (selling my Tattoo would get me the cash needed for it) and the fact that I can have Android 2.x with working camera and fm radio (if the x10 does have one xD)
I like my Tattoo (because of its size mainly) and the mini boasts of being the smallest Android so it doesn't seem like a bad change.
My main problem with my Tattoo is that HTC dropped us at Android 1.6 without caring because of the release of the Wildfire, and because of that xda devs never were able to get their hands on camera/radio 2.x drivers therefore one has to choose between camera (crappy) and radio or 2.x apps support. Really ungrateful position to be in.
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in this case, x10 mini is good for you
Go for the Mini mate
The Mini is the best phone I've had so far and believe me I've had a LOT... you wont regret buying it (it won an award for being the best phone for 2010 and 2011 which you probably know) its on android 2.1, it runs games fast @ 43FPS! for example runs Angry birds great but on the Hero which I had it lagged (23FPS on the Hero) and PSX4droid runs pretty great too =]
I have Apps2SD enabled, installed about 70+ apps/games (most of the big games work perfectly e.g. Pocket Legends, Fifa 10, Fruit Ninja etc) whereas normally without Apps2SD you wouldn't be able to get more than 4-5 big games on it.. so yeah
Do the wise thing and get the damn thing!!
PS. The disadvantage is that it has no Multi-touch but afaik that may change soon
I can also vouch for the x10 mini pro, and I too came from having a tattoo. The x10 is as good as technically and id argue better than the tattoo and I can tell you I wouldnt be writing this on my tatoo but I am happily on my mini pro
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Thanks for all the replies guys ^^ You've all ben very helpful =P
Hello i have a question, why is the touch/multi touch is so slow and not responsive? im running FreeX10 beta 4. i have tested xperia 10 touch/multi touch using phone tester(u can get this app from the market) vs galaxy s and mottorla droid, and the touch/multi touch on droid and galaxy s is way beter than its on xperia... is that because of the device(the touch screen)? or the software?
Stock dual touch is very responsive so I would advise you stick too 2.1 roms until such times as newer android versions are fully stable...
alentor said:
Hello i have a question, why is the touch/multi touch is so slow and not responsive? im running FreeX10 beta 4. i have tested xperia 10 touch/multi touch using phone tester(u can get this app from the market) vs galaxy s and mottorla droid, and the touch/multi touch on droid and galaxy s is way beter than its on xperia... is that because of the device(the touch screen)? or the software?
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It's the hardware. Those two phones have superior digitizers (yeah, even the old motorola droid, i think they developed their's in house?) whereas the nexus one and x10 user a digitizer that's not as advanced (only dual touch).
there are some ways to make it a little better (editing the build.prop to maxevents - i think - 26).
And to fend off any future questions that I know will be asked.
Changing the digitizer won't help unless: bootloader gets cracked, developer writes a new driver for a new digitizer, a manufacturer creates a new digitizer to fit the old x10... at that point, it's time for a new phone
edit: i apologize in advance if some of my terminology is off or if i'm slightly wrong with any of my info, but I think this is the jist of it.
owww.. what a disappointment.. didnt expect sony to fail with its touch screen that hard... >_>
After I updated to the latest baseband .55,and re rooted and installed cm 6.1.3,the multi touch has worked flawlessly with no lag.Try it out
really? do u know if i can run FREEX10 with .55 baseband?
EDIT: installed .55 working fine with FREEX10 beta 4.. but the touch/multi touch is still the same.. nothing changed, still slow and unresponsive..
Hey there Devs,
Is it possible to flash a wm7 rom onto the htc legend? Will it work?
Can u guys please port wm7 onto the legend as a rom and not just suggest me to get those launcher apps or a new phone cause I need to use my legend a lil while longer...
Thank you
wand44 said:
Hey there Devs,
Is it possible to flash a wm7 rom onto the htc legend? Will it work?
Can u guys please port wm7 onto the legend as a rom and not just suggest me to get those launcher apps or a new phone cause I need to use my legend a lil while longer...
Thank you
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I personally believe that it is highly unlikely as the mimimum requirements for Windows Phone 7 are the following:
ARM v7 "Cortex/Scorpion" – Snapdragon QSD8X50, MSM7X30, and MSM8X55
Capacitive, 4-point multi-touch screen with WVGA (480x800) resolution
DirectX9 rendering-capable GPU
The HTC Legend does not meet any of the criteria and Microsoft does not support most of the hardware in the Legend so I think it's a no go :/
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I personally believe that it is highly unlikely as the mimimum requirements for Windows Phone 7 are the following:
ARM v7 "Cortex/Scorpion" – Snapdragon QSD8X50, MSM7X30, and MSM8X55
Capacitive, 4-point multi-touch screen with WVGA (480x800) resolution
DirectX9 rendering-capable GPU
The HTC Legend does not meet any of the criteria and Microsoft does not support most of the hardware in the Legend so I think it's a no go :/
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Nothing has been ported to any other phone yet either, so the Legend is even less likely. The Desire HD has loads more developers and is similar to the HD7, but nobody has found a way yet. It would be like someone porting iOS to an Android phone as it is locked down in the same respect.
If you want a windows phone buy a windows phone
I've tried most high-end android phones and find they all share the same touch lag issue. When I slide my finger on the screen, the screen doesn't react until my finger has moved a few millimeters or so(which is easily noticeable). This problem does not exist on iOS or WP7 or even Windows Mobile 6.
Is the touch lag related to the android kernal or the visual machine? Is it fixed on the Galaxy Nexus? If not, is it possible that the lag will be fixed in the future. I surely hope the problem be fixed way before the day when android fades away.
daceaki said:
I've tried most high-end android phones and find they all share the same touch lag issue. When I slide my finger on the screen, the screen doesn't react until my finger has moved a few millimeters or so(which is easily noticeable). This problem does not exist on iOS or WP7 or even Windows Mobile 6.
Is the touch lag related to the android kernal or the visual machine? Is it fixed on the Galaxy Nexus? If not, is it possible that the lag will be fixed in the future. I surely hope the problem be fixed way before the day when android fades away.
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Depends on the sensitivity settings of the touch screen according to the manufacturer. A lot of the phones like the HTC Raider or LG Optimus LTE don't have a delay between when you touch and when it reacts. But all current androids have a little lag in rendering the sliding animations, which is due to there being no GPU rendering present in pre 4.0 android OS's.
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Depends on the sensitivity settings of the touch screen according to the manufacturer. A lot of the phones like the HTC Raider or LG Optimus LTE don't have a delay between when you touch and when it reacts. But all current androids have a little lag in rendering the sliding animations, which is due to there being no GPU rendering present in pre 4.0 android OS's.
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The delay exists on the Sensation There isn't much difference between the sansation and the Raider right?