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Hi everyone. For those of you who have an X10a, who's planning on flashing to 2.1 X10i software as soon as it's available?
Bin4ry and MarylandCookie have recommended against it, in favour of waiting for an X10a specific 2.1 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823115. However, I know we're all impatient and want to get new FW ASAP. We also know that in 1.6 ROMs it was not an issue to have an X10a flashed with X10i FW, and in the end, it didn't seem to affect anything, despite the different basebands.
I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread open for anyone to warn others if it brought disastrous results.
So, let's have it: anyone planning on flashing immediately with 2.1 Nordic?
Just want to add my stuff here
You MAY get Baseband issues. So the firmware and everything else should run well, but depends on the carrier you have you can get problems with 3G.
But i personally think that you will be able to flash back to 1.6 everytime using flashtool again, but that is not 100%. Maybe you have to wait for original X10A 2.1 to correct baseband.
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Bin4ry
No point screwing up your phone not having SEUS support. Just debrand using the latest LAM firmware and wait till the official 2.1 is out.
SE LAM stated last week that they were still on target for a late Oct launch so it wouldn't surprise me if it gets released on Monday.
I am waiting....what is an extra day or two anyways...
Well you should be able to extract the baseband from the LAM f/w and then use the Generic Global
Or just wait for Rogers lol and have a seperate thread for the wait on that!!
No point in taking the risk, chances are that someone will try it right away and post the results within 10 minutes of the update anyways, so I'm going to just sit back and let someone elses phone be the lab rat haha.
adrianoftyriel said:
Hi everyone. For those of you who have an X10i, who's planning on flashing to 2.1 X10i software as soon as it's available?
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Me.
adrianoftyriel said:
Bin4ry and MarylandCookie have recommended against it, in favour of waiting for an X10a specific 2.1 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823115.
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Why would X10i users wait for the X10a. Can you quote exactly what it is they "warn against"?
adrianoftyriel said:
We also know that in 1.6 ROMs it was not an issue to have an X10a flashed with X10i FW, and in the end, it didn't seem to affect anything, despite the different basebands.
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And not being able to update with SEUS.
adrianoftyriel said:
So, let's have it: anyone planning on flashing immediately with 2.1 Nordic?
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I'm just going to wait for the UK Generic.
adrianoftyriel said:
Hi everyone. For those of you who have an X10i, who's planning on flashing to 2.1 X10i software as soon as it's available?
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What you mean to ask is
For those of you who have an X10a, who's planning on flashing to 2.1 X10i software as soon as it's available?
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The potential problems are with X10a phones running an X10i rom but you already know that since the title of the thread is phrased correctly. Just want to avoid further confusion there...
XperiaX10iUser said:
Me.
Why would X10i users wait for the X10a. Can you quote exactly what it is they "warn against"?
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He meant x10a users waiting for x10a firmware. Seems to have been a misunderstanding here. This point was referring to x10a users flashing their handsets with the Nordic x10i release of 2.1 but were advised to wait for the LAM release or their Rogers.
Hi guys can please someone let me know whats going on? My question is why u dont advise flashing an x10a with x10i? My phone was originaly the stock rogers one and was x10a but to debrand it i used 026 x10i rom a few months ago and now its 026 x10i global generic. So can i flash this 2.1 rom?
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In a nutshell we had x10a baseband for 1.6 but for 2.1 we dont.
You could try flashing it without the x10i 2.1 baseband but we dont know how that will go down and how that will affect functionality of 3g, radios, mediascape etc so we advised against it. At your own peril .... lol
Nankov said:
My question is why u dont advise flashing an x10a with x10i? My phone was originaly the stock rogers one and was x10a but to debrand it i used 026 x10i rom a few months ago and now its 026 x10i global generic. So can i flash this 2.1 rom?
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There are files on those guides to change back to X10a, and it's my understanding that if you've flashed a to i or vice versa you can't use SEUS to update.
MarylandCookie said:
In a nutshell we had x10a baseband for 1.6 but for 2.1 we dont.
You could try flashing it without the x10i 2.1 baseband but we dont know how that will go down and how that will affect functionality of 3g, radios, mediascape etc so we advised against it. At your own peril .... lol
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And is there a big possibility to brick the phone completely without a chance to go back?
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XperiaX10iUser said:
Why would X10i users wait for the X10a. Can you quote exactly what it is they "warn against"?
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My bad. The first X10i should be an X10a. Edited.
As for assurances that it can be reversed... I'm confident that even if it doesn't work, someone here with figure out a way to reflash X10a firmware... but the bottom line is that it is unlikely that it will be irreversible, but we cannot know until someone tries.
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man ive been reading this for days on end, and im confused as hell.
i have a X10a, i flashed generic global, now it shows up as X10i, does that mean its stuffed?
i run SEUS and it still says "your phone has the latest software" ect ect.
can someone PLEASE tell me if my phones bummed or not? do i flash back to X10a now or something?
aussiesausage said:
man ive been reading this for days on end, and im confused as hell.
i have a X10a, i flashed generic global, now it shows up as X10i, does that mean its stuffed?
i run SEUS and it still says "your phone has the latest software" ect ect.
can someone PLEASE tell me if my phones bummed or not? do i flash back to X10a now or something?
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if you dont know what your doing, maybe you should do your research first?
I'm glad noobs are here for hardware testing
robbyf66 said:
if you dont know what your doing, maybe you should do your research first?
I'm glad noobs are here for hardware testing
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i know what im doing in regards to flashing it, but i didnt know flashing X10i **** on X10a would **** the phone, i took that section in the stickie that i can flash back to X10a
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if you dont know what your doing, maybe you should do your research first?
I'm glad noobs are here for hardware testing
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Robby don't be mean
(ofcourse they are for that but they aren't supposed to know)
Anyway, I think you're fine mate, as long as you flash back an X10a firmware. People say that SEUS doesn't work if you 'cross-flash' but maybe you can just wait till Sunday evening and see if u don't get any update, and then flash back
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Robby don't be mean
(ofcourse they are for that but they aren't supposed to know)
Anyway, I think you're fine mate, as long as you flash back an X10a firmware. People say that SEUS doesn't work if you 'cross-flash' but maybe you can just wait till Sunday evening and see if u don't get any update, and then flash back
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theres no 026 in X10a in the stickie either.
any idea when sunday evening over there is here in australia? im guessing monday morning or something?
i will have to flash to nordic ROM
aussiesausage said:
theres no 026 in X10a in the stickie either.
any idea when sunday evening over there is here in australia? im guessing monday morning or something?
i will have to flash to nordic ROM
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IMO, I think we are perfectly fine with the x10i 2.1 version coming out (if we can flash it)
There is a possibility for it to go screwy but I think we proved it won't by using previous x10i roms on x10a. I honestly doubt that they would have changed this, if they were this concerned about it then 2.2 would be out.
I hope my intuitions are correct I'll probably try it first day (just not the first person )
Right, I'm really confused?
Not with all the flashing, branding, debranding and all that jazz, That's easy. I got my x10 in the UK, On the Orange network.
I've had it ages and didn't really look at the box or under thebattery whether it was an x10a or x10i until recently. On the phone it said the firmware was x10a but when I checked the box etc I noticed it says x10i. It's flashed to x10i firmware now and global generic blah blah blah.
When I first tried SUES I got the not being able to update deal but now I can, I've used it a few times. Anyone any ideas on it and what it's meant to be lol?
The difference between the two are the 3g bands they support. X10a supports att's 3g. X10i supports t-mobile. In the USA at least.
gavriel18 said:
The difference between the two are the 3g bands they support. X10a supports att's 3g. X10i supports t-mobile. In the USA at least.
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Thanks dude, but I did know this.
I was more confused as to why the firmware was x10a while meant to be x10i
Did you flash the X10a rom to it? All UK phones should be X10i.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Did you flash the X10a rom to it? All UK phones should be X10i.
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I used Bin4ry's root method and and flashed it to the x10i firmware, I couldn't get SUES to work with it at first and was going to try and flash it back to x10a but then it started working and is fine now.
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I used Bin4ry's root method and and flashed it to the x10i firmware
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If you followed every step then that's why it ended up as an X10a, and as far as I know SEUS won't run if you've flashed a to i or vice versa.
XperiaX10iUser said:
If you followed every step then that's why it ended up as an X10a, and as far as I know SEUS won't run if you've flashed a to i or vice versa.
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No it was x10a to start with and i've flashed it to x10i now
Android 2.1 has been released for Rogers in Canada
It is only available through PC Companion and not OTA.
Cheers, Brett
brett19 said:
Android 2.1 has been released for Rogers in Canada
It is only available through PC Companion and not OTA.
Cheers, Brett
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I just checked through PC Companion and it's still telling me that my phone has the latest software. I checked OTA as well with the same result. I'm going to check using SEUS and see if what that tells me.
Where in Canada are you? I'm in Edmonton and nothing yet for me.
Ya same here nothing im in ottawa
Just checked using SEUS and still nothing.
I saw on the Android forum that a couple people in Ottawa got the notification but it doesn't seem to be consistent as other people in the thread said that they weren't getting despite them being from Ottawa as well.
I'm curious if anyone has found a way for those of us with an x10a running x10i firmware to easily trick SEUS into updating for the x10a. I'm currently running the Nordic 2.1 and would love witch to Rogers 2.1 once it's released....anyone have any ideas?
I do recall something about the updates being "staggered" to minimize the load on the servers.
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I'm curious if anyone has found a way for those of us with an x10a running x10i firmware to easily trick SEUS into updating for the x10a. I'm currently running the Nordic 2.1 and would love witch to Rogers 2.1 once it's released....anyone have any ideas?
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there are several posts on how to " trick " it into taking the update so just wait a bit, someone will post the firmware with the flash tool, same one you used for nordic and you will be all set.
All of the posts I've read indicate we shouldn't mix x10i and x10a codes as SEUS would either not work or ignore the phone. Unless I missed something?
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All of the posts I've read indicate we shouldn't mix x10i and x10a codes as SEUS would either not work or ignore the phone. Unless I missed something?
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If I understand the posts correctly they are much like the Nokia product or region codes.. with said codes it will tell the server where you are located. So its like a address of sorts.. the server checks the phones and says Oh Hello! You are in Canada here ya go.. or Hallo! Sie sind in Deutschland .. as I said someone will surely post a how to guide. if you mix the codes you will have a phone with firmware from another country well that is my take on it.
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Android 2.1 has been released for Rogers in Canada
It is only available through PC Companion and not OTA.
Cheers, Brett
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Then do us a favor and update the FW from your PC companion/SEUS folder.
somebody will decrypt it.
I just talked to a Rogers technical support representative and was told that the update has been released, but Sony, as usual, did not prepare for the immense traffic and the link to the download is up and down. I was told that we should be able to update later today, but that the only way to check for the update is through PC Companion - it will NOT appear as an OTA notification on the phone.
Hope this helps!
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Then do us a favor and update the FW from your PC companion/SEUS folder.
somebody will decrypt it.
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I'm with Tux. I'll wait for some other helpful Rogers user to post the firmware, and then I'll look into flashing to that.
Haven't had any problems with my X10a running Nordic firmware (other than taking longer to get started with market downloads), so I'm not in a huge rush. It would be nice to have proper X10a firmware though.
saltorio said:
I'm with Tux. I'll wait for some other helpful Rogers user to post the firmware, and then I'll look into flashing to that.
Haven't had any problems with my X10a running Nordic firmware (other than taking longer to get started with market downloads), so I'm not in a huge rush. It would be nice to have proper X10a firmware though.
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+1 on that I just want my model to say x10a at some point soon-ish.
Changed my build. Prop and fired up pc comp, gives me a server error....
Edit; I guess I'll wait till Brett uploaded it and its usable with flashtool
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Rockjock007 said:
If I understand the posts correctly they are much like the Nokia product or region codes.. with said codes it will tell the server where you are located. So its like a address of sorts.. the server checks the phones and says Oh Hello! You are in Canada here ya go.. or Hallo! Sie sind in Deutschland .. as I said someone will surely post a how to guide. if you mix the codes you will have a phone with firmware from another country well that is my take on it.
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Well one of us is misunderstanding at this point. I'm not home at the moment and don't have time to link, but the thread in here somewhere states very clearly not to use an x10a CDA if you have an x10i phone as SEUS will not detect the phone. I guess I'll just wait I guess.
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Well one of us is misunderstanding at this point. I'm not home at the moment and don't have time to link, but the thread in here somewhere states very clearly not to use an x10a CDA if you have an x10i phone as SEUS will not detect the phone. I guess I'll just wait I guess.
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That was for 1.6 fw
For 2.1fw Binary (or was Jerpelea) wrote that is ok to use it as SE probably unified the basebands.
Problem is, my 2.1 is crashing about 5 times (or more) daily.
mouch99 said:
I just talked to a Rogers technical support representative and was told that the update has been released, but Sony, as usual, did not prepare for the immense traffic and the link to the download is up and down. I was told that we should be able to update later today, but that the only way to check for the update is through PC Companion - it will NOT appear as an OTA notification on the phone.
Hope this helps!
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Youre gullible as hell is you believe that. Good ole Rogers.
It's gotta be related to your install. Using original global 2.1 with root in New bRunswick with absolutely no issues
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I'm curious if anyone has found a way for those of us with an x10a running x10i firmware to easily trick SEUS into updating for the x10a. I'm currently running the Nordic 2.1 and would love witch to Rogers 2.1 once it's released....anyone have any ideas?
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Using the CDA trick works. I have the global X10i firmware on my X10a and changed it's CDA to the generic Brazil one and it gave me the option to repair to the X10a 2.1 generic brazil firmware. I am assuming that the same can be done with the Rogers CDA once it fully goes live.
I didn't do it as I am happy with the global one....no issues.
Just to clarify, I actually work for a particular company that is involved in this, and we were notified that the update was to begin rolling out today.
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Hi All,
I recently flashed my at&t X10a to X10a R2BA026 0001 CUSTOMIZED GEL/LUSTER WHITE NAM_1. I assume this is the generic for North America. My question is, does anyone know when the 2.1 update for the firmware I specified will be released? Any information would be much appreciated.
Thank you all!
according to SE LAM it'll be ready for this week, they just said 2.1 will be released during the week of nov 15th
I'm just waiting xD
Really SE Latm really work? LOL, but will make that rom a difference to have the nordic or global?
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Really SE Latm really work? LOL, but will make that rom a difference to have the nordic or global?
Sent from my X10(a)i 2.1 using xda.
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warranty purpose xD
nothing beyond that
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according to SE LAM it'll be ready for this week, they just said 2.1 will be released during the week of nov 15th
I'm just waiting xD
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Great! I can't wait. Will the firmware I flashed my phone with (X10a R2BA026 0001 CUSTOMIZED GEL/LUSTER WHITE NAM_1) be among the ones that will receive the update on the week of 15th?
Thanks!
honestly I have no idea, NAM and LATAM are different
you can also switch to LATAM if you want
alankstiyo said:
honestly I have no idea, NAM and LATAM are different
you can also switch to LATAM if you want
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Yeah I might just do that if I don't get the update by next week.
What are kit number for NAM & LATAM Firmware for the X10a??
I've flashed the Generic World, and also the Brazilian firmwares onto my X10a & and both worked great.
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What are kit number for NAM & LATAM Firmware for the X10a??
I've flashed the Generic World, and also the Brazilian firmwares onto my X10a & and both worked great.
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In the post from xperia10 it is X10a CUST-GEL NAM1 1234-4820 this is not the KIT #, it is what you need to get
PC Companion to do a repair. Put in KIT # and you get back up to date no new firnware available.
GEL = GEneric Latin
It is out today 11/17, I loaded it this morning.
Tony_C said:
In the post from xperia10 it is X10a CUST-GEL NAM1 1234-4820 this is not the KIT #, it is what you need to get
PC Companion to do a repair. Put in KIT # and you get back up to date no new firnware available.
GEL = GEneric Latin
It is out today 11/17, I loaded it this morning.
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Yeah, I updated mine yesterday to generic 2. 1 for X10a.
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Yeah, I updated mine yesterday to generic 2. 1 for X10a.
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Does the LAM version come bundled with Moxier? I read that the Brazil NAM version does not. Can anyone confirm?
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Does the LAM version come bundled with Moxier? I read that the Brazil NAM version does not. Can anyone confirm?
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Yeah Moxier is there.
Candy[MAN] said:
Does the LAM version come bundled with Moxier? I read that the Brazil NAM version does not. Can anyone confirm?
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I flashed the Brazil one, and it has Moxier in it.
Where on earth
This could very well be the rookiest question in this thread, but where on earth are you getting these generic 2.1 's from? and are they reliable?
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This could very well be the rookiest question in this thread, but where on earth are you getting these generic 2.1 's from? and are they reliable?
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Change the CDA, repair via PC Companion
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824711
Anyone knows about 2.1 in chile?
Thanks.
sent from my androxperia x10i rooted
I got Brazilian ROM and moxier is still there... But using titanium u can say goodbye to moxier
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OK guys, here is the world generic 2.1 for X10a. These are the files from the SEUS folder on my PC. If someone can please decrypt it so that it can work with the flash tool. Hope this helps.
http://rapidshare.com/files/43163781...ld_generic.rar
Hi, i flashed my xperia like 2 weeks agoo with the Nordic FW, and i have read that the FW for my carrier Telcel (Mexico) is already out! so i would like to flash it with that!
How can i do it?
Where can i get the Telcel FW?
Thanks!
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Hi, i flashed my xperia like 2 weeks agoo with the Nordic FW, and i have read that the FW for my carrier Telcel (Mexico) is already out! so i would like to flash it with that!
How can i do it?
Where can i get the Telcel FW?
Thanks!
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Try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824711
I used the 2.1 method to go from Global to world, remember to use CDA number, NOT SI.
i have a question, in that thread says that it should be only used from X10i to x10i, and not x10i to x10a...
and the FW i want is supposed to be x10a, so, it will work?
also, i cant edit the file, cause it's says "Is only read" and i cant change the permissions
Use the root explorer , on ur phone .after rooting it , so u can edit that file
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825201
Switching from Any 2.1 to Another:
thanks! i just follow the first reply and works
thanks again