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I'm awaiting delivery of my new unbranded and unlocked Galaxy S2 really looking forward to having the best phone on the market, since March last year ive had a HD2 which was/is a superb phone and has served me well but ive sold it on to fund buying this, i notice some user names on here who used to be post on the HD2 forums just have a couple of questions regarding the few ROM's which are currently available for the GS2.
The most popular appear to be Villian ROM and Litening ROM, both seem to have superior battery life and are very fast, the Litening ROM sems to be easier to flash (i stand corrected on that) and you can flash this without having to root your phone first, im experienced in flashing ROM's for the HD2 but this is all new ground for me so out of those 2 ROM's which would you recommend beginning with, any pro's and con's,etc,etc ive read both threads and both appear to be excellent ROM's, Pulser in particular appears to be a very skilled developer.
Also any other recommendations/tips you have starting out, is it a good idea to get rid of all the Samsung bloatware to preserve battery life,etc,etc.
I've read quite a bit on here so im aware of certain things already but even though ive been on XDA a long time im so used to the HD2 i feel like im starting over again (well i suppose i am in a way)
Cheers folks..
I made the same jump as you and Im very happy with it.
With regards to the "easiest" rom to flash, I dont think theres any difference really, as long as you follow the instructions carefully its really very simple.
The VR thread has very clear and simple instructions. You'll get used to it
Bloatware, I would reccomend just leaving it as it is and seeing how your battery life is. If you feel it could improve then start stripping things out and see if it gets better. I've only got rid of the wifi sharing crap and can still make it through a day with 40% left. That could probably improve as well if I bothered to tinker some more.
You could always flash the lite version of villain rom, which contains NOTHING.
Not really willing to compare the two you mentioned as I havent tried litening so that would be unfair. For me, the main advantage of using VR is the VillainTweaks app and the level of support available, should you need it.
Cheers for the response and tips, just one thing about the Villian ROM is it very stable with minimal or no bugs/lag?
I've already acesertained that the battery life is superior so that is great to hear,and i can see that Pulser unlike some devs does seem to be involved in the thread (support) which is also a positive thing.
I might keep the stock on it for a few days then flash, I suppose if your on XDA it obviouss your gonna be flashing a custom ROM at some stage.
In all honesty I can think of only one bug I have suffered and I have seen it reported on other ROMS not just VR, sometimes my screen timeout settings will return to the default 30 second setting.
I have had 2 random reboots in the month or so that I've had the phone and both of those only occured after I had gone over 100 hrs without a reboot....
As for lag.....
Run your stock ROM for a few days, enjoy the blazing speed and responsiveness of this beast of a phone.
Then flash VR and marvel in complete amazement at the fact that this thing can get even faster
I keep mine underclocked to 800Mhz (sometimes I'll bump it up to 1Ghz for gaming) and its way snappier than my HD2 ever was.
Was similar to the first time I flashed an energy rom instead of stock winmo...
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In all honesty I can think of only one bug I have suffered and I have seen it reported on other ROMS not just VR, sometimes my screen timeout settings will return to the default 30 second setting.
I have had 2 random reboots in the month or so that I've had the phone and both of those only occured after I had gone over 100 hrs without a reboot....
As for lag.....
Run your stock ROM for a few days, enjoy the blazing speed and responsiveness of this beast of a phone.
Then flash VR and marvel in complete amazement at the fact that this thing can get even faster
I keep mine underclocked to 800Mhz (sometimes I'll bump it up to 1Ghz for gaming) and its way snappier than my HD2 ever was.
Was similar to the first time I flashed an energy rom instead of stock winmo...
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Just out of curiosity mate why do you keep your phone underclocked to 800Mhz?
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Just out of curiosity mate why do you keep your phone underclocked to 800Mhz?
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Just a balance between speed and extending battery life that little bit more. It really doesn't feel any slower at 800 than it does at 1.2 but it uses less power.
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Sounds good when i get mine i think ill try that.
Just 2 more questions i forgot to ask first time
I haven't seen anyone mention using X-Scope browser on these forums just Dolphin and stock, X-Scope for me was the best browser i know of and i used it all the time with my HD2 am i to assume this browser also works fine with the GS2?
Also does ROM manager work on the GS2, reason i ask is because when i had the HD2 sometimes after installing certain apps or a new ROM i would get force closes but after fixing permissions in either ROM manager or CWM it usually fixed that problem.
Cheers
Just tested x scope and it seems to work fine.
Rom manager is not something I've ever been a fan of, theres no way of knowing what your flashing. You can fix permissions through cwm anyway.
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Hi there,
probably that request would make more sense in the developer forum but i didnt post enough yet
Actually i get insane battery batterylife with the bali 1.8.8 UV version, therefore i tried the non UV version with even more lowerd voltages via set cpu. it was stable but drained a lot faster. don´t know why.
so my request would be "pre-undervolted" bali kernels that might have even longer batteryliftime. Any hints on that? Someone who is able to compile something like this?
Best regards,
vibrantoparanto (from germany)
Hint' Bali X+Voltage control app= win !!!
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^^ that is your answer....currently what im using
bali-x is what i used before - i lowered the voltages up to -150mv with some frequencies but it still gave me only about half the battery lifetime (less than 24 hours with moderate use) then i get with bali uv. What did you use to manually undervolt and how is your battery lifetime?
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bali-x is what i used before - i lowered the voltages up to -150mv with some frequencies but it still gave me only about half the battery lifetime (less than 24 hours with moderate use) then i get with bali uv. What did you use to manually undervolt and how is your battery lifetime?
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i hate to burst your bubble, but youre chasing a ghost. uv'ing will not produce very noticeable changes to your battery life, especially if were are talking baout different versions of the same kernel.
take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21024393&postcount=8
Cannot agree with that. I tried *a lot* and flashed different roms and kernels for years now. With stock kernels i get up to two days standby with low/moderate use, with bali UV i get almost three days. I have no idead why, but at least the standby time differs dramatically between kernels. At least thats for sure - under load that might be another thing. But probably you´re right and its just a "good standby behaviour" which would hardly benefit from lowered voltages. Would be still interesting to try a hardcore UV kernel
TopShelf, it is funny that you posted that note/post b/c I was just getting ready to PM you that I put part of it in my guide like I mentioned a week or so ago and the apps too.
Take a look at the Guide and maybe you will find some answers to your questions.
If you want to UV to the max, then you will have to test that yourself b/c every Vibrant reacts differently to OC/UV. Step it down -25v each day (don't set on boot until you know they work) and see where it freezes. There are OC/UV examples in the guide but beware, they are both for MIUI kernels.
Is there probably any admin out there who understands what i talk about and can move that thread to the developer forum?
this thread belongs here, you posted in the right section. posting in development will not get you answers from developers, it will only get you yelled at by hall monitors.
it is a common misconception that "developers" ONLY visit the "development" section. this is far from the truth.
sorry to say, the reason you have not gotten answers isnt because you posted in the wrong section, but because requests like these are pretty much never honored. the reason is because if a developer decides to make a slight alteration to a ROM/kernel for a member, he will then get BOMBARDED by dozens of other members who have tiny little tweaks that they would like in their ROM/kernel
Still trying to bring back some life to my request with this argument: I just checked my girlfriends device (using zendroid 2.1.2 with bali 1.8.8uv) and couldnt believe it: 3 days and 14 hours since unplugged with 8% left. The battery is a stock 1500mHa. And as its my girlfriends phone its definity not "overtweaked and calibrated". Personally i care much more about standby time than super heavy usage (guess that should be fine then too).
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Still trying to bring back some life to my request with this argument: I just checked my girlfriends device (using zendroid 2.1.2 with bali 1.8.8uv) and couldnt believe it: 3 days and 14 hours since unplugged with 8% left. The battery is a stock 1500mHa. And as its my girlfriends phone its definity not "overtweaked and calibrated". Personally i care much more about standby time than super heavy usage (guess that should be fine then too).
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Since you didn't like the answer you got, for clarification purposes you are basically asking for a dev to use their time for FREE an modified/debug/test a kernel with your requirements just for your own sake ?
i wanted to point out that this is a very interesting kernel with great battery lifetime. if you have a look at all the other threads of people desperatly trying to get 24h of battery then you probably wouldnt consider this request as "wasting free time of others for my own sake".
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i wanted to point out that this is a very interesting kernel with great battery lifetime. if you have a look at all the other threads of people desperatly trying to get 24h of battery then you probably wouldnt consider this request as "wasting free time of others for my own sake".
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i can prove to you that UVing does not make that much of a difference. if youre willing to learn, try this little experiment:
-UV your phone using your current settings
-put your phone in airplane mode
-turn it off
-charge it to 100% while its off
-after it boots up, leave it in airplane mode and immediately lock the screen
-let your phone sit idle in airplane mode from full charge to death (record the time)
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Once youve done this, repeat all of the above steps but with STOCK VOLTAGE. record the time.
now compare the two times. i would be willing to bet a large sum of money that it is not a notable difference, if any.
my point is instead of trying to convince yourself that your theory of UVing is correct, why not do a TRUE battery life test, and simply find out for yourself. you cannot run true battery tests while you are actually using your phone becuase phone usage is massively different on a day to day basis, even if you dont think it is, it is. there is background data, text messages/calls, notifications, etc. (which is why i said to put it in airplane mode, that way its just sitting there, with little to no variables)
i guarantee you that you are putting way too much thought into voltage settings. they do not help as much as people want them to. dont say im wrong until you actually try what i said above. although youre probably nto going to.
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Still trying to bring back some life to my request with this argument: I just checked my girlfriends device (using zendroid 2.1.2 with bali 1.8.8uv) and couldnt believe it: 3 days and 14 hours since unplugged with 8% left. The battery is a stock 1500mHa. And as its my girlfriends phone its definity not "overtweaked and calibrated". Personally i care much more about standby time than super heavy usage (guess that should be fine then too).
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sorry, but this does not prove anything. what are you comparing it to? your phone? you cant compare her battery life to your own unless you guys have the same exact setup, same exact apps, and same exact usage habits, etc.
you are not going about this battery things the right way. you NEED to be willing to learn more instead of trying to come up with your own reasons in your own head as to why your battery gets a specific lifespan. If getting THAT MUCH more battery life was as easy as UVing your phone, dont you think the manufacturers would incorporate that and use that as a marketing strategy?? "New from Samsung, the Galaxy S III!!! This will revolutionize the mobile industry, curing the battery woes across that smartphone world...now with lower voltage for drastically improved battery life!! Pick yours up today!!"
It's not that easy, you need to read up on what affects battery life.
thank you for your thoughts topshelf, but as i posted earlier i am on that topic for years now and i really tested a lot. not as scientific as running phone on idle with different frequenzies but trust me: I know a whole lot about this topic. Also i share your thought that the voltage is not that important in the end. On the other hand i have to say you guys are quite ignorant about my observations i did earlier:
1. The bali-x kernel with manual undervolting provides (provable) worse battery lifetime than
2. the 1.8.8uv kernel.
Conclusion: As you say it is not that much about the voltage but about the way the kernels work as a whole. On the other hand it would be *very* interesting if the insane battery lifetime of bali uv could be even further improved. And no i wont put my phone to sleep for days in order to do scientific test (whoever is willing to i will donate - battery lifetime almost like astrology)
Last but not least: It is true that different roms provide significantly different battery lifetimes - for whatever reason. Some roms turn your phone into a handwarmer, others give you almost the standby times you were used from the non-smarthpones. And i think even the big companies have a hard time to write device specific code that is highly optimized - i mean you still get new devices with gingerbread instead of ics and so on. conclusion: on the software side *is* much room for improvement if it comes to battery lifetime on most devices.
just my 2 cents
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i wanted to point out that this is a very interesting kernel with great battery lifetime. if you have a look at all the other threads of people desperatly trying to get 24h of battery then you probably wouldnt consider this request as "wasting free time of others for my own sake".
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Look at your post, you and "others" are asking for some one to do research and development on their free time and for free ? little selfish on you.
Look at all the kernels thread in the development section and read thru all the comments, I bet there is far more people whining and complaining about this and that, than providing actually constructive and monetary feedback to the developers.
Its not as easy as it seams, ecotox already tried this before with his ultra low power kernels and some reported great succes while others couldnt even boot, it goes down to the quality of the silicon on each particular phone. no dev has the time/money to develop such request considering all the different variables involved.
lastly if you are so fond on this idea, why dont you take the initiative and learn to compile and patch and make your own kernel ?
Diff phone but a good simple guide to read:
http://arighi.blogspot.com/2011/08/howto-custom-kernel-on-samsung-galaxy-s.html
basic read:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5529470/how-to-compile-linux-kernel-for-real-android-phone
basic read:
http://igottadroid.com/wordpress/?p=61
For latest source:
http://opensource.samsung.com
"Be the change you want to see in the world." Mohandas Gandhi
Simple: If you want to change the world, start with yourself.
I'll read those links. Thanks for the info.
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And no i wont put my phone to sleep for days in order to do scientific test (whoever is willing to i will donate - battery lifetime almost like astrology)
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im not trying to pick on you, but this sarcastic response shows your overall attitude that jrafael is trying to make you realize. you want somebody to take time out of their day/night to do something for you...yet you arent even willing to let for phone sit for a day in order to learn a thing or two...letting your phone sit doesnt even take any effort, compiling a kernel takes a lot more effort than that
i hate to say it, but why should someone help you, if you dont want to help yourself.
thank you jrafael for the links - thats a great read.
@topshelf: still think you overreact here. For one who has developed it and has the workflow it is a matter of a few minutes - and no one is forced to do anything unless he thinks its might be worth it - maybe its inspiring? i am just asking. not everything idea must be done by the one who thinks about it. and the quote about battery life is true i would say - we are really lacking valueable info on battery drain with different setups.
I am trying to understand this phenomena.. I realize this is more of a philosophical topic than a technical topic, but its something I think about ever day when I read the forums and try to help people with stuff.
To start, my good friend, and my wife have rezounds. To be fair, my wife could care less about the ROM she is running, but, I like to keep her updated. My friend and I go back and forth about what rom is better, he likes Rrez rom, I like Cleanrom, but we flash back and forth.
Out of the 3 of us, We have never had any of the problems that I see other people having. Why?
We all (you guys too) have the same phones, we flash the same software, how is it that Joe gets 24 hours of battery life, flawlessly smooth performance, crystal clear reception.. while John gets an overheating battery, stuttering performance, unusable signal and 4 hours of battery life?
I continue to read posts from people complaining that this rom sucks or that rom sucks..
So.. is it the PERSON, the PHONE or...
maybe not all rezounds are the same inside, and maybe some software does not work with some versions of the phone. That seems pretty ridiculous though.
When I flash mine and my wife's phone, i usually "race" them to see who's is fastest (ya.. its stupid i know). But from the first power down, to wiping to flashing the rom. i press the buttons at the exact same time, and both phones complete the process at the exact same time, boot up in the exact same time..
you get the idea.
just to see if there are any differences, I did a clean flash of clean rom 4.1 on both phones, and let them sit with the screens on, full brightness for 1 hour. they BOTH drained to 83%.
These phones were purchased 3 months apart, and one from VZW and the other from Amazon.
my buddy has never had any of these problems either (his wife has a rezound, but she wont let him flash it)
none of us have had problems, why?
I am not trying to discount anyone's problems, obviously if your phone is overheating, its not something you are making up.. but why is it that YOUR phone heats up, yet mine doesn't
This is a real question, and I think it deserves some sort of analysis. A real answer could go a long way to helping people who are having problems others are not.
Case in point, people are complaining that the radios in the new leak suck. They are getting crappy reception and they regret updating.
i LOVE the new radios!!! i get AWESOME reception!!.
Right now im sitting at 17 hours with 30% left and I tethered my laptop at school for 3 hours while doing homework at school.
A few days ago, I let the battery die (didnt charge it overnight) and it charged over 60% in 30 min, it was awesome lol
60% in 30 minutes? on the new ICS firmware? it took me 1 hour and 20 minutes to go up from 14% to 70% today...
jayochs said:
60% in 30 minutes? on the new ICS firmware? it took me 1 hour and 20 minutes to go up from 14% to 70% today...
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trust me, I was just as surprised as you, I was sitting in lecture and it shut off on me. I went to study and plugged it in with the HTC charger and the supplied cable (i love that cable) while I read over some material, 30 min later I unplugged it and it was at 62%, I almost fell over lol
im on 4.1 with stock kernel. I flash my phone so much that I dont have **** installed on it (battery saver wise or whatever). It just a normal phone. I dont OC it, I dont run apps that close programs..just stock build
I've wondered the same thing. I'm somewhere in the middle here. I have some heat problems (can't charge and use a lot of mobile network, heavy games push me to 120-ish), my battery life kinda sucks (it's great, as long as I don't use it... but I get like 2 hrs screen on time). Overall though, it's not a terrible situation, and I still dig the phone.
But stories of 24 hour battery life and never seeing temps above 90 sound like tall tales to me.
I think some of it is that we all have our own interpretation of "moderate" use. I'd imagine some people think two hours of screen time is moderate use (a few facebook checks, some phone calls, and some email over the course of a day). To me it's extremely light... I'm at an hour+ by 10AM most days, 2 by the end of work, then I run with gps, play a game or two in the evening, and you get the idea.
I can't speak for those who have radio/ reception problems... but I've become pretty convinced that the other two main "issues" are mostly due to perception.
I think some of this may be location... if you are in an area where reception is spotty, your phone works harder to gain a connection, gets hotter doing it and uses more battery power.
I went from last Thursday to Monday morning with zero WiFi and the phone was using more power than my normal use, but the connection was solid, speeds were solid as well. I normally use WiFi most of the day because if I am at home or at work, I have a good solid WiFi signal and the phone uses less power (for me at least). My test over the weekend was a good test for me showing that while 4G was solid, if I have WiFi available I save battery power using it.
In general, I have rarely had issues with any phone that I use. Never had to replace one or return it for defects or any other reason. I am good to my equipment though, my Dinc still looks brand new and I got it pre-launch.
It's about 20% phone problems and 80% problems with the people. A good majority of people who flash and then complain are those who don't know what the heck they're doing. In the case of the new firmware, many didn't follow the directions to a T. They got a bad flash or a bad download. Then there are those who flash a new ROM and don't take the time to read everything before doing so. These are the 80% that are essentially complete morons. They do idiotic things that just can't be explained. These are the types of people who should either not be flashing ROMs or who should be using iPhones. In my opinion, if you don't read everything and then complain about something not working correctly, it's your fault.
That being said, there are phones that just suck straight from the factory. Some people who really know what they're doing have these phones and get bad results when running the new firmware and different ROMs. There are plenty of these people on here that have these issues. I feel bad for these people. I certainly don't feel bad for the other 80% who go into a thread and complain that the ROM sucks or something when it's completely their fault.
EDIT: And yes, much of the battery drain and temp problems can be blamed on location for those who have phones that just can't seem to grab a 4g signal for too long. I live in an area where my 4g is solid 99% of the time, so I have no issues. I was in an area about 2 hours south of where I live the other day, though, that had crap 4g signal. My phone definitely drained pretty quickly that day and did get a bit hot.
These are all good points. and actually I never considered location before,
And i thin you are right on with the perception. There has to be a way to standardize some of the stuff to rule out perception. So when people say "man i get crappy battery" We can say "well did you run the (insert standardized battery test) test? what was the result?"
say the test was something like leaving the screen on for 2 hours, starting with a full charge and in airplane mode to rule out reception. Theoretically, all phones with the same ROM and kernel should drain the same amount ..
It is also common for people to see a new mod/rom etc.. and rush to try it out without doing any prep for how they will recover if it doesn't work, how to go back, ramifications of the changes they make... checking first to see if others had problems with it first... etc.
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It is also common for people to see a new mod/rom etc.. and rush to try it out without doing any prep for how they will recover if it doesn't work, how to go back, ramifications of the changes they make... checking first to see if others had problems with it first... etc.
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Exactly. The "80%" problem in my post. People don't read. It's a shame.
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Exactly. The "80%" problem in my post. People don't read. It's a shame.
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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Shouldn't make you laugh... it's a great idea!
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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Hahaha that's actually a really good idea lol I would change it to 95% or higher, though.
i know for a fact i'm not blaming it on the rom, or not reading right, or not flashing the firmware right.
i did everything right, and i'm 150% positive of that. thing is, when a rom runs great for the first 4 days or so, then out of nowehre i'm going from 18 hours of battery to 5 hours of battery, clearly there's an issue SOMEWHERE.
i'd love to blame it on verizon trying to push 4g here, but i run on wifi most of the time, so i don't think that's it.
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i know for a fact i'm not blaming it on the rom, or not reading right, or not flashing the firmware right.
i did everything right, and i'm 150% positive of that. thing is, when a rom runs great for the first 4 days or so, then out of nowehre i'm going from 18 hours of battery to 5 hours of battery, clearly there's an issue SOMEWHERE.
i'd love to blame it on verizon trying to push 4g here, but i run on wifi most of the time, so i don't think that's it.
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I've read your posts in the threads. I meant to put that in my post that you weren't one of the 80% I was talking about. I think yours is a case of the other 20%. Or it could be something to do with the firmware going all bonkers on you.
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I've read your posts in the threads. I meant to put that in my post that you weren't one of the 80% I was talking about. I think yours is a case of the other 20%. Or it could be something to do with the firmware going all bonkers on you.
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by the way, your sig is aweomse.
And yes, **** does happen sometime. but its usually clear from the way the post is written that the person was clueless.
posts usually start like this
"I tried searching but didnt find the answer...."
and then they ask how to flash the rom, or something else that has been covered 1000 times (you have to UPGRADE TO NEW LEAK FIRST)
yeah man, i really hope it's not! everything went smoothly...well, almost smoothly, i was one of the few where the phone froze on the white HTC screeen, and i did a batt pull, and when it rebooted, it began the second step of installation..but i have yet to have any force closes or anything. maybe i'm subconsciously using my phone more? i really don't think so. screen on time should pretty much help judge that, and it's not showing anything out of the ordinary...and better battery stats isn't showing any crazy up time..my awake time is like 39%..i mean, maybe the 4g issue is it? idk..like i said, i run wifi often, so that means mobile networks OFF...
then again, i'm running just 3g tonight ot see if 4g comes on again, and 3g keeps turning off, and switching to 1x..like, constantly...so they MUST still be doing something down here..
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by the way, your sig is aweomse.
And yes, **** does happen sometime. but its usually clear from the way the post is written that the person was clueless.
posts usually start like this
"I tried searching but didnt find the answer...."
and then they ask how to flash the rom, or something else that has been covered 1000 times (you have to UPGRADE TO NEW LEAK FIRST)
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Hahahahaha, that's a dead giveaway that they didn't really look lol.
And thanks If you click on my sig it'll take you to my thread to look at others I've done lately
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yeah man, i really hope it's not! everything went smoothly...well, almost smoothly, i was one of the few where the phone froze on the white HTC screeen, and i did a batt pull, and when it rebooted, it began the second step of installation..but i have yet to have any force closes or anything. maybe i'm subconsciously using my phone more? i really don't think so. screen on time should pretty much help judge that, and it's not showing anything out of the ordinary...and better battery stats isn't showing any crazy up time..my awake time is like 39%..i mean, maybe the 4g issue is it? idk..like i said, i run wifi often, so that means mobile networks OFF...
then again, i'm running just 3g tonight ot see if 4g comes on again, and 3g keeps turning off, and switching to 1x..like, constantly...so they MUST still be doing something down here..
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I got stuck also. Scared the hell out of me. But mine seems to have gone through the RUU perfectly and I've been getting insane battery life lately. Like at least a day every cycle on a stock 3.8v. It really could be a case of bad timing with the new firmware and Vzw updating 4g in your area that could be killing your battery. I hope you figure it out soon, though. That would be driving me insane.
you're running the RUU? i'm running joel's Bamf. works pretty well; i like ICS better, in general
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you're running the RUU? i'm running joel's Bamf. works pretty well; i like ICS better, in general
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Sorry, I meant I ran the leaked RUU and firmware and that's where I got stuck for a minute. But I'm on BAMF right now. I always run the latest BAMF.
Seems that every ROM I look at in here has a bunch of issues. I'm coming over from the OG Evo, and know nothing about photon's development- although I get the gist its an underappreciated device. Just looking for something to make it worth rooting the photon, which is a great phone imo.
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have you tried CM9? sure theres a few bugs but its my daily. otherwise i hear that miui is turning out pretty good but i havnt flashed it myself for a few builds. you could always try cm7 or rokko also.
CM7 and CM9 are the best. Use both of them, CM7 is more stable and all works, but CM9 is very smooths and awesome!
dsuffern said:
Seems that every ROM I look at in here has a bunch of issues. I'm coming over from the OG Evo, and know nothing about photon's development- although I get the gist its an underappreciated device. Just looking for something to make it worth rooting the photon, which is a great phone imo.
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As quick as it is to root the Photon I would do it just for the ability to use root apps. Then, try some of the custom locked roms available before you unlock. CM9 is a great rom but still a beta and has issues such as camera, signal, battery, etc. which is to be expected.
I still prefer the stock rom just because of full functionality, battery life, and signal quality but there are many good custom roms based off stock builds (which I have not tried) that might work well for you.
Running CM7 here and am happy with that as my daily driver. Not brave enough to try CM9 but that's just my personal preference/bias. Joker's non CM9 roms & Lokifish Marz's roms are also good choices.
Three great roms:
-CM7 (KANG)
-ROCKO 3.0 (NOT 3.5)
-Imperium Initiative 1.04
As for which is better... It's a tossup. CM7 last longer, but ROCKO feels more fluid and user friendly. CM7 is more technical...
CM9 is very impressive but it is a beta.
coolqf said:
Three great roms:
-CM7 (KANG)
-ROCKO 3.0 (NOT 3.5)
-Imperium Initiative 1.04
As for which is better... It's a tossup. CM7 last longer, but ROCKO feels more fluid and user friendly. CM7 is more technical...
CM9 is very impressive but it is a beta.
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Imperium is not a beginners ROM by any stretch.
Lokifish Marz said:
Imperium is not a beginners ROM by any stretch.
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Not designed by a beginner but perfectly usable by a beginner =D
coolqf said:
Not designed by a beginner but perfectly usable by a beginner =D
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I agree.
I finally took the dive into unlocking my Photon's bootloader, (having never done it before on a phone) and I had almost zero issues rooting/unlocking/flashing the ROM.
CCallahan said:
As quick as it is to root the Photon I would do it just for the ability to use root apps. Then, try some of the custom locked roms available before you unlock. CM9 is a great rom but still a beta and has issues such as camera, signal, battery, etc. which is to be expected.
I still prefer the stock rom just because of full functionality, battery life, and signal quality but there are many good custom roms based off stock builds (which I have not tried) that might work well for you.
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I'd like to quickly point out that Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9 beta is honestly pretty stable. The camera, MMS, signal, and battery life is very much exceeding my expectations, considering this is a rom that is labelled as a beta.
I'd also like to state my opinions towards the OP's original question: In order of stability, here is what I would recommend.
1-Stock. (obviously).
2-HomeBase
3-CyanogenMod 7.2
4-RockoRom 3.0 (3.5 is good as well, but based on experience I recommend 3.0)
5-Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9, link is in the beginning of my post.
6-Imperium Initiative
Finally, 7-[email protected]/[email protected]
The rom I use the most is Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9. It's a very good rom.
Quickly-- One last thing. If you DO flash a rom, please please please PLEASE do not complain about the battery life until you do these steps:
~Let your battery drain to 0%
~Charge your battery to 100%
~Wipe battery stats via the advanced menu in a custom recovery(recommended), or an application
~Drain battery to 0%, then charge to 100%.
Then you can complain about the battery life... if it's bad, that is. Lol.
MoPho on, my friend!
Zwomg Im Bad said:
I'd like to quickly point out that Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9 beta is honestly pretty stable. The camera, MMS, signal, and battery life is very much exceeding my expectations, considering this is a rom that is labelled as a beta.
I'd also like to state my opinions towards the OP's original question: In order of stability, here is what I would recommend.
1-Stock. (obviously).
2-HomeBase
3-CyanogenMod 7.2
4-RockoRom 3.0 (3.5 is good as well, but based on experience I recommend 3.0)
5-Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9, link is in the beginning of my post.
6-Imperium Initiative
Finally, 7-[email protected]/[email protected]
The rom I use the most is Jokersax's CyanogenMod 9. It's a very good rom.
Quickly-- One last thing. If you DO flash a rom, please please please PLEASE do not complain about the battery life until you do these steps:
~Let your battery drain to 0%
~Charge your battery to 100%
~Wipe battery stats via the advanced menu in a custom recovery(recommended), or an application
~Drain battery to 0%, then charge to 100%.
Then you can complain about the battery life... if it's bad, that is. Lol.
MoPho on, my friend!
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I was comparing CM9 to stock and there is no way CM9 has better battery than stock. Not even close. In my experience with running CM roms on multiple devices they all seem to drain the battery more I would assume due to the kernels used. I know this doesn't really have anything to do with stability but relates to the overall feel of the OP question I think which is why I mentioned it.
With that said roms are going to run different for each user especially with a beta build.
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I was comparing CM9 to stock and there is no way CM9 has better battery than stock. Not even close. In my experience with running CM roms on multiple devices they all seem to drain the battery more I would assume due to the kernels used. I know this doesn't really have anything to do with stability but relates to the overall feel of the OP question I think which is why I mentioned it.
With that said roms are going to run different for each user especially with a beta build.
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I don't quite remember saying that the battery life was better than stock... But surely sir, you must be doing something wrong. I have 2 photons running cm9, one is activated and one is not, the one that is activated has the minimum at 216 mhz and the max at 1300 mhz, and it's usual cpu is going at 800mhz-ish. the one that is not activated is clocked to the max at 1300mhz constantly, min is 1300 and max is obviously 1300. they both run roughly the same amount of time before dying, usually 7/8hrs. with stock, not rooted, my batter lasts anywhere from 8-9hrs being heavily used.
I never said that the battery life was better than stock on cm9, i said it was EXCEEDING MY EXPECTATIONS FOR A BETA. Sir, you honestly should double check the post of which you're criticizing before you make such an accusation.
And of course roms are going to be different for everybody, depending on how they use it and what they do with it. I've only tweaked jokersax's build to fix the mms issue, as his fix doesn't help. my fix helps ME, but considering the fact that jokersax's fix works for plenty of others, that obviously points out the fact that roms run differently for everybody.
One last thing; who's cm9 build are you talking about? because you mentioned bugs, and jokersax's barely has any. the battery life issue has a solution that can be found at the end of my first post. please, read it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24827129
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I will say it.... jokers cm9 roms battery life kick the crap out of stock. It does have some pretty annoying bugs tho.... like everytime you rotate the screen while using the browser it force closes, or the camera that doesn't take great pictures...mainly with the flash. But other than that it does work pretty well.
I did just switch to cm7 and while everything on it seems to work great, the battery life is no where near as good as cm9.
Btw both I have Max CPU at 1000.
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DualSportDad said:
I will say it.... jokers cm9 roms battery life kick the crap out of stock. It does have some pretty annoying bugs tho.... like everytime you rotate the screen while using the browser it force closes, or the camera that doesn't take great pictures...mainly with the flash. But other than that it does work pretty well.
I did just switch to cm7 and while everything on it seems to work great, the battery life is no where near as good as cm9.
Btw both I have Max CPU at 1000.
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Really? For me, the camera's damnnear perfect. huh. But yeah, the rotation isn't great, but I never use rotation. It pisses me off, lol. The only thing atm that makes me mad is that google play won't let me download anything because I'm not on an official android rom. Anyone else have this problem?
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Really? For me, the camera's damnnear perfect. huh. But yeah, the rotation isn't great, but I never use rotation. It pisses me off, lol. The only thing atm that makes me mad is that google play won't let me download anything because I'm not on an official android rom. Anyone else have this problem?
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Go to settings, apps, stop Google play, clear its data, restart phone.
Acvice said:
Go to settings, apps, stop Google play, clear its data, restart phone.
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Yeh, tried that lmao. And i tried clearing market updater, tried downloading older version, i tried alot of things i just gave up haha.
But I'll post about this on a different thread, we gotta stay on topic. Thanks for trying to help me!
I flashed back last night and tried taking pictures with dark light.... I found if I use the button on the screen instead of the button on the side of the phone it takes much better pictures. All in all I can't wait till this Rome gets the bugs worked out.... but to be on topic it is a pretty good daily rom.
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oDepani andSportDad;24897902]I flashed back last night and tried taking pictures with dark light.... I found if I use the button on the screen instead of the button on the side of the phone it takes much better pictures. All in all I can't wait till this Rome gets the bugs worked out.... but to be on topic it is a pretty good daily rom.
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True. Very true. I've found that the vibrate goes on/ off though. Doesn't bother me, but it ciuld bother others
Zwomg Im Bad said:
I don't quite remember saying that the battery life was better than stock... But surely sir, you must be doing something wrong. I have 2 photons running cm9, one is activated and one is not, the one that is activated has the minimum at 216 mhz and the max at 1300 mhz, and it's usual cpu is going at 800mhz-ish. the one that is not activated is clocked to the max at 1300mhz constantly, min is 1300 and max is obviously 1300. they both run roughly the same amount of time before dying, usually 7/8hrs. with stock, not rooted, my batter lasts anywhere from 8-9hrs being heavily used.
I never said that the battery life was better than stock on cm9, i said it was EXCEEDING MY EXPECTATIONS FOR A BETA. Sir, you honestly should double check the post of which you're criticizing before you make such an accusation.
And of course roms are going to be different for everybody, depending on how they use it and what they do with it. I've only tweaked jokersax's build to fix the mms issue, as his fix doesn't help. my fix helps ME, but considering the fact that jokersax's fix works for plenty of others, that obviously points out the fact that roms run differently for everybody.
One last thing; who's cm9 build are you talking about? because you mentioned bugs, and jokersax's barely has any. the battery life issue has a solution that can be found at the end of my first post. please, read it.
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I will only comment on a few items because we could go about this all day with really no positive outcome and the thread will be hijacked.
First, I am not doing anything wrong. This is not my first rodeo. Yes, I know about the battery "conditioning" steps at the end of your post. This is part of flashing 101. With what I am running on my phone it just wasn't the life I needed it to be.
With that said I agree with you on CM9 exceeding expectations. Great rom but OP was looking for a stable rom and beta versions have bugs.
We can agree to disagree and put it to rest?
from past week my phone is discharging very quickly and I changed different roms but no use and my battery stats is proper and I think my battery life has gone .....and should I replace new battery ? if so which battery fits properly .....as I stay in India no vibrant here .......but i9000 is there.........
If calibrating doesn't work then your battery could be bad. Other than vibrant the i9000 and topic touch 4g batteries work with the vibrant. Try ebay or amazon for cheap batteries.
Have you read this nifty little thread right here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389069
Also, what rom are you running? I'm asking because if its anything JB, I wouldn't expect much in terms of battery life.
Also, what kind of usage does your phone get on a daily basis? Are you a light or a heavy user?
What kernel are you running? Which i/o scheduler and Governor are you running with?
OC? UV? The more info the better my friend ^^
There's all that too, much more helpful then my response. I just figured all the basics where tried already. I've had batteries mess up on me before. My original g1 battery got so bad that when I checked it, it was bloated.
kxlling said:
There's all that too, much more helpful then my response. I just figured all the basics where tried already. I've had batteries mess up on me before. My original g1 battery got so bad that when I checked it, it was bloated.
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Aha, both are helpful ^^ It's all pieces of the puzzle in my eyes lol
But if we can get a good idea of what the root of the problem is, we may be able to fix it without him having to buy a battery :]
I remember when I used to get 7 hours at best outta my phone, and I thought that was normal...but then I learned a few tricks, and
now I never get below an easy 24 hours on my phone, no matter what rom I am running. ^^
after calibrating it is working fine ..............thnx guys saved me from buying new battery