how would you rate the hd2 out of ten? because i have been to the store and played with it and it seems really good but if one of you has it can you tell me your opinion of the phone.
I also cannot afford the unlimited data plan but i can afford the 200mb a month data plan would that be worth it? i am almost always around wifi so is there a way that i could turn off the phones 3g and just use wifi and not use the data from my plan?
Also if there is a way to only use wifi, is there an app that could track my 3g usage just in case i do use my 3g because i would not want to go over since that is such a little amount of data. Or if there is not a app is there a way to check online, like on tmobile or something?
The help would be greatly appreciated because i am new to smart phones and i really want one, thank you for the help
I do like the HD2! But let me tell you some stuff I think is missing ...
Soft keys - especially if your going to be a heavy android user, the HD2 one piece plastic hard keys feel a bit ... tacky
Camera button - I don't know if its just me, but my old phones had a dedicated camera button and it is just handy
Kickstand - I personally like watching movies or streaming youtube videos, and holding in my hand makes my wrist sore. Sure, there are work arounds like cases with kickstands but it would be good if there was one built in like the Evo
and thats about it! oh, and I don't have a data plan with it because I find myself to be around wi-fi alot and I don't find it justifiable to pay more for internet on my phone than fi-os internet at home!
I love my Hd2 . It's screen is so luscious and its ability to boot Android and winmo is great.
In both Android and winmo you can turn off and on your phones mobile data usage so it only takes data from the WiFi network. In Android you can also select your phone to take data when on a WiFi network when setting up your device.
Honestly Im in love with this phone, but a piece of advice, you must do a great deal of customization to get it in a proper shape, but once done its a king.
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there are zillion apps (cabs in winmo and apks in android) that let you control data, block all connections, only allow mms and so on. I put my phone next to other android phones and the strangest thing is this device is faster than all others when you have the right build installed. (only boot takes a while, but who cares).
how would I rate it?
+1 PSX games with PS3 controller
+1 4,3 inch
+1 android,winmo,win95,98,ubuntu,..
+1 highly tweakable
+1 everything is ported to this phone, good devs
+1 720 P cam
-1 no front cam
-1 no touch buttons but hard buttons (yes they do get rusty over time)
+1 great GPS, tomtom on HD2 is faster than ANY OTHER GPS SYSTEM, EVEN TOMTOM DEVICES!
-1 resolution and colors (not that it's really a big deal-I don't think it sucks,if you use the right wallpapers and such)
so that's a 7/10 for me
for soft keys, .............install button saviour from jerry fan for android.....really a saviour...i never used hard keys in winmo
I'm also thinking of getting a HD2.
Main issues holding me back are build related & durability.
Screen touch failure/button issue seems all to common
battery cover is of low durabilty finish
overheating
no camera key.
How durable are some of you long time owners finding your devices to be ?
If not a HD2, what are the non android options ?
crazy things you ask there.............best phone build,...
for camera key, try scilors cab to use volume key as camera button in winmo,
you dont use softkeys in winmo...in android you can use button saviour...
every thing has a solution, thanks to xda
i rate it 20/10..bcos its that more than what i bought it for in jan 2010 and it is still the best phone come jan 2011
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I'm also thinking of getting a HD2.
Main issues holding me back are build related & durability.
Screen touch failure/button issue seems all to common
battery cover is of low durabilty finish
overheating
no camera key.
How durable are some of you long time owners finding your devices to be ?
If not a HD2, what are the non android options ?
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Overheating is an actual issue, seen quite a few cases in these fora. But you'll know in the first couple days if you've got an overheater, and can return for a new unit. I would say to any HD2 owner, if it feels warm, no problem. If it feels hot, turn it off n let it cool down. Any phone's gonna heat up, but I think alot of the overheating freeze-up problems people get are due to not shutting it off, removing the cover and battery, and waiting for it to cool if it does become hot. Mine gets warm at times, but has never become hot.
The hard buttons still work fine for me, like everybody says, Android requires much more use of hard keys, but button savior lives up to its name. And its really very convenient.
The back cover is kinda low durability, I've dropped my HD2 a few times, it's never scratched, but there is a very small (hardly noticeable) spot by where you pry it open to remove the battery, where my thumb has rubbed the paint off, but the color underneath the paint is almost identical. Some folks have even polished their batt covers for a mirror chrome look. Or you could get one of those rubber cases (I have one but never really use it, but they're not bad)
I have never had screen touch failure, but I too have seen a few cases around here. I would say avoid overexposure to extreme temperatures, don't abuse the screen, and you'll be okay.
It's true that the HD2 takes a bit of customization to get it working great, but that's true of all WM phones. Difference is, when you get the HD2 working the way you want, it's a beast. It's been a very reliable phone for me, and there's enough stuff you can do to it to keep from growing bored and buying another really expensive phone just because the one you have 'isn't fun anymore'.
The HD2, with a good sized sd card, beats any Android native phone, rooted or not, because you have to flash one of them for a new Android OS. You drag n drop a folder on this thing, n you've got a whole new phone. Plus the Android phones will never run WM 6.5, which even though support for the OS is dying, it's a slow death that will go on for at least another year or two, and it's still a great OS IMHO. I don't see why so many people like this WP7 garbage, but that's just me. But hell, you'll even be able to run that on the HD2 pretty soon if you want to.
I would say go with the HD2, it has way more pro's than con's, especially for someone who's into modding their phone.
I guess im in the minority that prefers hard keys over soft keys. theres absolutely no lag or stutter with the hard keys whereas with the soft keys, you're prone to system lag. and what happen if you wear a glove? don't tell me I have to remove it to make a dang call...
I'd rate the HD2 a 9/10 and to be honest I don't know what would be even 10/10 and that's saying a lot.
Ive had my hd2 for about 6 months and I would highly recommend it to anyone. It takes a while to get the customisation right, with apps and stuff, but they are truely great.
I would have to rate it 8.5 of 10. It's a tweaker's phone since it has excellent hardware. If you run it on stock Sense you might feel it's lower than that. If you're willing to put a little time in it to tweak it or run custom roms, you'd be very happy with it.
Sense is very beautiful to look at, but I got tired of it after not very long, I just don't need that much power going to visual effects. Once I switched to SPB mobile shell it's extremely fast, functionally it's not any slower than running android and better battery life. Android on it is running very well, the difficulty is picking among all the nice builds.
For hardware I wish the power button would be tucked away more, I find it often gets bumped and turn on in my pocket or golfbag. I would've also liked a little bit bigger battery. But those are really the only complaints I have regarding the hardware. I don't need a front facing camera and I don't see the need for faster processors. I'd take less processing power for better battery life.
I bought mine HD2 on Tuesday. Man, I'm so freaking happy with this device, I'm sitting on xda all the time (even though we have Christmas right now), I just can't seperate with this phone . It's so great! And those customizations, I mean you can run WM, Android, Win95, 98, Ubuntu, Maemo and God knows what else! And this device is only one year old!
King of Windows Mobile devices (I'm talking about WM version <6.5, cuz WP7 isn't really a Windows Mobile, it's Windows Phone).
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Why are you happy and from which phone did you use prior to the SGS2?
Finally a phone I dont need to flash on a daily basis. Im one of the few lucky(according to xda) that have no issues or defects with my sgs2. My last couple devices were orginal sgs(vibrant) dell streak, Desire hd, Hd2, Moto atrix(poor excuse) and Lg G2x.
This device is the best ive ever owned and see no need to buy another device until the sgs3 comes out. Everything works out of the box and never any lag. It outperforms every device Ive tested it against including sensation.
Switched fr N1 for almost a mth, I've experienced an improvement under most of the aspects, the only thing I'm not satisfy w/ is the battery, the different to other GS2 owner is huge, I can hardly stand for 12 hrs and trying to use under voltage to solve it, hope it helps
Anyways, this is a very good smartphone and I like it much
I use an SGS2 now and then and it is a good unit. What the SGS1 should have been.
Before that I had teh SGS1 (a piece of #$t I was lucky to be able to return) that was laggy, buggy, lacking basic features (like a LED) and had major hardware design flaws (GPS was a joke). It was so crippled it could not be used out of the box, but would become decent after tuning (if you were willing to spend time with it).
I also have a Nokia E72, with the famous Symbian zombie-deathland OS. Ugly, unstylish but very reliable. In several ways, it is still great. Probably will keep it along with an SGS2... just in case.
Only problem with the SGS2 so far is the nasty pink hue in all photos and videos, but I have not updated above KE5 yet. And a pity it doesn't sound as good as the SGS1 on the 3.5mm jack with good audiophile gear.
Previous phones: HTC Touch Dual, HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch Pro2, HTC Desire.
It's hard to argue that any other phone on the market is better than the SGS2 right now. I mean, who's the competition?
Motorola Atrix
HTC Sensation
HTC Evo 3D
LG Optimus 2X
Seems to me the SGS2 has them all beat when it comes to specs, performance, formfactor, and display quality.
Battery life does appear to be sub-par but it's a compromise I'm more than willing to accept.
Previous Phones: HTC Touch Pro 2, Sony-Ericsson P990i
Well, I think I do not have to say anything about the previous phones compared to the S2 - it beats them all with ease.
The only two things Samsung should have made better/in another way:
Battery and heat dissipation. I would not had any problems if the phone would be some mm thicker and a little bit heavier for a more powerful battery and no (or even less) heat problems.
Well, but this is just my opinion...
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I just vannot put this phone down. : D
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I've come from a HTC wildfire and before that a T-mobile pulse and I love this phone. Everything about it is better than my last two phones.
The only problems are the battery life (which im hoping to fix by flashing KF2) and the fact I physicaly cannot use any other device now because they're all too small compared to this (seriously try picking up a 3.5inch device and it just looks small)
i came from an iphone 4 and am a real phone geek where i swap my phone regularly but i have to say im gonna stick with the s2 its easy, beautiful , certainly has the wow factor and its not locked down like ios ..... out of ten the s2 gets 11 just hope Samsung don't let us down by not updating the firmware regulary
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I came from an original Galaxy S which was the best phone in the world at the time. I love the SGS2. It's so much better in every way. Everything flies with the dual core processor. The screen size is great and there are subtle changes in the software which make a big difference such as the ability to assign your contacts to groups on the phone with out having to sign in to gmail via a browser.
I have SGS2 for about one month and it is the best phone I ever had. Not a single problem so far, everything works fast and perfect, battery life is great - battery lasts one day and a half on a heavy usage, which is better than 1 day with my previous HTC Desire. It is big step forward compared to my previous phone. I didn't root it yet, because everything is perfect out of a box.
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I have been a long time user of smart phones since the days of palm smart phones than to O2 devices than to Dopod and HTC..even tried a toshiba and acer phones..my last device was HTC Desire HD..
This is my first samsung phone..and i am really glad i made this switch..phone is simply amazing..does what ever i tell it to do and it does it perfectly..and now my wife is complaining becoz i often fall asleep with the phone in the hands.
About battery life..i know lots of people are complaining..but on my DHD..the way i trash the phone..battery will last 5 hours max..on this phone..still same trashing..i get about 11 to 12 hours..so for me no complains there.
Note: i never used apple products becoz i simply hate a device that tries to control me on how i can use the device.
Back to the topic..Hell yess i am absolutely satisfied
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Do we have BLN working on the SGS2 yet? Which kernel has it?
Do the custom roms take out the annoying fully charge sound notification?
Do custom roms make touchwiz reload faster? What about the unlock screen lag?
How many units (percent/batches??) are affected by the screen defect of the sgs2 wherein the left side is darker?
Why am I getting a lot of "battery issue" complaints whenever I google for problems on this phone? Is really serious or is that the fault of the user??
About the wake up and homescreen refresh lag, do you guys really believe that it's a problem on all phones or just how you set up the phone? Or rom or stock rom or kernel ???
I am still undecided if I am going to get this phone or the Nexus 3 which will probably have the same hardware as the SGS2 but better software.
I'm not entirely satisfied yet. I have some problems with the GPS. Searched the forums for some info regarding the GPS and found that most people are happy with it. Sure, if I stand under a clear sky, it finds almost instantly, 10-12 satellites and also locks them up. The problem is the ACCURACY and SPEED.
Accuracy (testing with GPS test):
I sometimes get down to 6 meters. But most of the time it's 10+ and up to 20, and sometimes jumps alot higher than that for no particular reason even when standing still. Yesterday I had my phone next to a HTC wildfire. My phone had 10 satellites and about 10-12 meters accuracy. The HTC had around 6 satellites only, with less signal (I had a few green, the HTC had only orange/yellow sats) but the HTC NEVER goes below 5 meters in accuracy. Most of the time it has 3 or 4 meters, values I never see even with less satellites. I've had a HTC Legend myself and I could have it in my pocket without it going over 5 meters in accuracy in the middle of the forest, which is needed when I'm running...
Speed:
Possible problem with GPS outsignal maybe? When I'm using ANY app for walking for example, the GPS with always show 3,6 km/h. Always a fixed value. When I use Copilot, the same version as i did with my old SGS, the speed will jump 3 km steps for example: 80 km/h, 83, 86 etc.
I guess I'm abit more picky with the GPS than most people. Specially since everyone seems to be so happy with it when it works pretty bad in my opinion.
Oh well it's alot better than SGS atleast.
I'm now using a sgs-II for two weeks and am happy with it.
My previous phones were the nexus one, motorola milestone. The milestone was buggy and big, not to mention locked down my Motorola. The nexus one was generally good except the buggy touch pannel, and during it was running 2.3.3 it was draining the battery very fast.
I had some problems with sgs-II and its gps (it saw satellites but did not lock even after 20 minutes) after changing the ntp server setting in gps.conf it locks in under 10 seconds. I believe that the reported accuracy is more true than other phones. My nexus one typically reported better accuracy but the position was jumping the same as the Sgs-II
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dropped it on concrete (car park) and watched it bounced on its sides and then finally slide some 1 metre flat on its screen...
All I had on it was a gs1 screen protector so the screen had some exposed areas but amazingly... no scratch on the screen or even on the metal rims around it. So I'm pretty happy with this phone =D
Also, the drop was so hard that the back plate came off but another thing I'm impressed with it is that the battery stayed in it. If this was my nokia, heck, battery, simcard, micro sd and just about any movable internals would've sprayed out.
The first time I got this phone I thought the thing is so light and thin, I would have to take care of it like a baby. But man the incident made my day. (I bought proper screen protector and case the day before it though... just waiting on shipping, not gonna risk it =P)
Damn I sound like a promoter.
Back to the topic, I was kinda hoping that this phone would future proof me for a while... so not having NFC is a bit of a drawback in that department if that takes off. -1
+1 for replaceable battery =P I'm keeping an extra one around just in case (coming from an iphone 3gs)
+1 for dual core! being my first android phone it seems like I have been spared from the general laggy and buggyness of previous gen androids
At the moment I'm trying to make an app to globally control music via the volume rocker which is the only thing I missed from iphone (eg hold the volume down to get to next track) playerpro can do this but only from the lockscreen.
Other than that... I'm a very satisfied owner indeed.
Yes. M8800 pixon
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I simply love mine eheh
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All you say is pure bull$hit.This phone is a piece of crap.Yesterday I opened voice commands and told it to make me coffee.The coffee was BLACK while I want milk in it!And it was much sweeter than I want!I am really considering taking the phone back and buying that Buondi coffee machine.
Anyway,joking aside,it's one step forward than a device that would already be many steps forward than what is available today(other than the GS2 of course! ).Lagginess?Gone.Slow reactions?Gone.Bad performance?Gone.Battery issues?Gone if you take precautions(Simple as updating to KE7 and later with a wipe-factory reset).Incompatibility?Well,this one goes to Chainfire but gone too.Even with CF3D my Desire HD can't always keep up.
Am I satisfied?Hell yeah I am!
Oh,and about the coffee part,it's awesome there too.How?Overclock it,set it to performance governor and make a stress test.Flip the phone while the stress test is going and you can keep your coffee hot at all times!
Like many I am waffling between the Hercules and the Amaze. I really like the Amaze. It is a great looking phone and I like Sense 3.0 (looking forward to 3.5). The biggest thing holding me back from pulling the trigger on the Amaze (besides the fact that it isn't actually out yet on Telus) is the seemingly widespread reports of poor battery life.
First question: Is the poor battery life universal or is it only some people who are experiencing it while others are getting good battery life?
Second question-kind of a strange one. I mount my phone in my car with a holder which squeezes the phone from the sides to hold it. My concern is that with the usb on the side it cannot be plugged in while in the holder. Also, I am concerned that the holder will squeeze against the camera buttons and activate the camera. Does anyone have one of these types of phone mounts and does it work ok with this phone?
Thanks
Nobody has on opinon?
I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
Battery life - Use juice defender Ultimate + SetCPU. Get HTC Evo 3D or HTC Sensation 1900mAH battery
Camera - Arguably the best on android
Soft Buttons - Works just fine here. Light up in the dark. Stays off in bright environment
Lag - Absolutely no lag. Dual core processor + 1GB RAM. This is not HTC Hero, It's the Amaze
Galaxy nexus - Hmmmm, a great device. Should you wait? that's up to you mate.
I'll just comment on battery life, mine hasn't been that bad at all, I routinely get through a full day without needing a charge. I use JuiceDefender, but other than that I don't change too much.
Thanks for your replies. As for battery, I'd like to get a full day (charge overnight, not have to recharge til next night) out of my phone without having to jump through hoops to make it possible.
As for Nexus, who knows if Telus will ever get it. The haven't exactly been leading the pack with getting the latest phones.
Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
It does not matter which you get, dual core devices eats battery.
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My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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It's because you don't have a source at HTC. That's what makes you a fan boy. Battery is about the same as long as it runs the same course of use. Really. Then again, that rumor is coming from a unreliable source. You! Let me hear your long Android history. I bet I got you beat hands down.
Sense 3.0 is much more responsive than Touch Wiz 4.0. How do I know this? I spend about 30+ hours in a T-Mobile show room a week. That's weird. Do I randomly through out the day try to load the same webpages on both phones? Yes. Does the HTC load full sites faster than the SGSII consistently? Yes. Have I carefully watched the battery and repeated the exact same tasks on both devices? Yes. Is the battery that much far off? No.
So is the battery life going to be that much better? Is it going to be significant enough to wait and get the Samsung Nexus? Probably not.
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Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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As I stated in my first post, I'm more concerned with the car phone holder pressing against the buttons. I guess nobody else uses one of those. I'll have to bring the holder in with me and try it I guess.
Thanks for everyone's replies.
I have one of those types of car holders and don't have an issue with triggering the camera or charging the phone.
Can't comment on battery life yet, just got it Friday.
Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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You got a lemon. My experience since launch day has been the EXACT opposite of what you just posted.
Battery=good
Camera=awesome (look into your settings)
Soft buttons=awesome. BEtter than my old Vibrant
Lag=none, not even when stock un-rooted
Your "source" means nothing.
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Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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This is the one I have - arkon(com)/megagrip/megagrip-windshield-car-mount.html
Liking that slim grip you posted though. Might replace mine with that.
So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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1) I have the white one. It does attract a quite high quantity of dirt. The back is easy to clean. Just use a smooth humid cloth on it. For the lens, it's easier to clean it removing the back cover. The Xperia Logo on the bottom, and on the Camera, HDMI and USB logos on the sides also get dirty quite easily. The dust enters the little "depression" and get stuck in there. If someone knows a good way to clean this, please let me know.
2)It's been quite a long time since the start of the production. Until batch 14, almost all devices had it, on batches 15 and 16 it almost has gone. We must be on batches 30 or 40 by now, so no need to worry.
3)I think it's enough for me, and should be enough for you. Check the battery thread, and look at my posts to see my results.
4)Well, my carrier sucks for that. I badly can enter a corridor on my school without loosing signal. But I also had this with my old X10 MP. I think the coverage is good (not so good now, as I'm using Turkey FW, with a different baseband, but it doesn't make it unusable)
5)I always kept it on, so I can't tell the difference, really. Most people seems to have problems since the first ICS update (I also have this problem, but the screen is still awesome)
6)GPS for that is good for me. I also don't drive (heck, I'm 15 years old), but it is really accurate (with internet connection it's even better, as it have A-GPS)
Hope I helped.
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1) I have the white one. It does attract a quite high quantity of dirt. The back is easy to clean. Just use a smooth humid cloth on it. For the lens, it's easier to clean it removing the back cover. The Xperia Logo on the bottom, and on the Camera, HDMI and USB logos on the sides also get dirty quite easily. The dust enters the little "depression" and get stuck in there. If someone knows a good way to clean this, please let me know.
2)It's been quite a long time since the start of the production. Until batch 14, almost all devices had it, on batches 15 and 16 it almost has gone. We must be on batches 30 or 40 by now, so no need to worry.
3)I think it's enough for me, and should be enough for you. Check the battery thread, and look at my posts to see my results.
4)Well, my carrier sucks for that. I badly can enter a corridor on my school without loosing signal. But I also had this with my old X10 MP. I think the coverage is good (not so good now, as I'm using Turkey FW, with a different baseband, but it doesn't make it unusable)
5)I always kept it on, so I can't tell the difference, really. Most people seems to have problems since the first ICS update (I also have this problem, but the screen is still awesome)
6)GPS for that is good for me. I also don't drive (heck, I'm 15 years old), but it is really accurate (with internet connection it's even better, as it have A-GPS)
Hope I helped.
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Thanks for the reply.
About the batches, do you know how to check what batch it is? Since in Australia the Xperia S doesnt sell very well (I know it since Im working for a phone company now), so I reckon there are a lot of old stock sticking around.
And what is the problem you're talking about? Sorry I should have done my research but Im dong my assignment now and the threads are HUGE
Thanks again !
averygagaanroid said:
Thanks for the reply.
About the batches, do you know how to check what batch it is? Since in Australia the Xperia S doesnt sell very well (I know it since Im working for a phone company now), so I reckon there are a lot of old stock sticking around.
And what is the problem you're talking about? Sorry I should have done my research but Im dong my assignment now and the threads are HUGE
Thanks again !
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The only way I know is to open the back cover of the phone. On it, there is white sticker with info about the phone. On the right side, there is the phone model (LT26i), another info and something like this, 12Wxx, where xx is the batch, W is week and 12 is year. Mine is W10, so I have the yellow spot. Sadly can't trade as Sony Brazil is horrible.
The problem, I meant is that the Bravia Engine isn't working for most on the ICS update.
No more inputs from anyone?
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So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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Hey there,
1. I have the black xps, my friend owns the white version. It does attract quite a bit of dirt but using a case should solve the problem. (recommend nillkin hard case)
2. Yellow screen issue - my first xps had the defect, returned it to the service centre within a week of purchase and got a replacement in 2 weeks. The batch I now have is 12w16. So if it's possible for you to find out the production batch, I recommend you get anything beyond w14.
3. Battery life - immensely dropped after the ics update. Gb battery life was amazing (I'm referring to stock firmware). The issue is due to the phone unable to get enough deep sleep when the screen is off. (culprits being - alarm manager and power saver app, they keep restarting). On stock ics, with 3G constantly on, Wifi for a few hours, display on for about 3 hours, music for 30mins,auto sync on throughout - i get about 12-15 hours of battery life. With auto sync off, I get 3-4 hours more battery life.
4. About network signal etc. The phone doesn't have any issues. But if you're in a low coverage area, it's going to drain your battery even further. One bug I've noticed is that after a few hours or sometimes a day, my data connectivity just refuses to work, in spite of it showing active with the H/3G symbol. Only solution is a restart.
5. I keep my bravia engine off most of the time, honestly I can't really tell the difference cause the screen is one of the best in the market. Love the clarity.
6. Gps - no issues. Fast and accurate.
Hope this helped you.
Cheers!
averygagaanroid said:
So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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1. I used to own a XS before upgrade to the Acro S. A white one to be exact. I used a case all the time so there was little dirt to be worry about. I'm sure you'll feel the same. The 3 touch buttons on the front was horrid though.
2. If you buy a brand new one around this time, I doubt you will ever encounter this issue.
3. Battery do fine for me. It's about 3 hours of screen time, not very impressive but not bad at all.
4. Coverage is good. I've ever lost any signal.
5. You'll see a bit different in color, less vivid to be exact but you'll get used to it in tme.
6.GPS is fast and accurate.
Hope this help.
1)I have the older batch, so am having a yellow tint. Will send it for repair when I do have the time. As long as the bootloader is unlocked sony will gladly repaired it for you.
2)sony has said that bravia engine dont impact battery life, so u don't really need to turn it down
3)GPS is really really good, even without A-GPS( data off). Lock into position in seconds!. Must be the whole glonass thing,as other droids I use with data off,will need some time to few minutes to find me.
4)battery life,well as bad as most droids, 5 hours of screen time would drain it almost flat. But fast charging work as advertise, so plug it iN whenever possible,30 minits of charging could get it up around 50%.
5) call signal are really good, well at least I can comform it's better than samsung note,gio & s2.
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I recently bought a used Xperia Active mainly to be used as a cycling computer (with the awesome app OruxMaps) and for recording my runs using Endomondo. The stock ROM was bloated with all sorts so after a few days it just had to go.
First I flashed CM10.1 but apparently the BT stack is borked on that so Ant+ is not working, so I flashed CM10 and everything works great or at least everything that I need. It connects to my BT x-fit headphones, BT Polar HRM and Ant+ B'Twin Speed and Cadence sensor without any major issues - the audio cuts out occasionally but I'm not sure if it's an issue with Google Music/All Access or a 3G connectivity or BT issue and haven't bothered investigating to be honest.
I've read that the BT stack in 4.3 is better and supports BT BLE which I might decide to use for fitness accessories - although reading about Ant+, it sounds a far better option for that sort of thing.
So, is CM10.2 likely to come to the Active? I'm assuming there shouldn't be an issue in terms of hardware, is there?
Also, if there are any fellow runners/cyclists with any app suggestions to motivate/record/map/etc I'd like to hear from you!
My setup as I said is OruxMaps for cycling. I tried IpBike which is not bad either, but didn't like the UI. I also tried a couple of other apps, but haven't seen anything that I liked. Apparently Cyclemeter is great on the i-Devices but their FAQ says: "We do hope to do an Android version of our app, but it’s not in our near term plans. We’ve had a great response from customers on the iPhone, and they provide lots of feedback for us about new features they’d like to see. Wish we could have said otherwise, it would be great to have you as a customer!"
OruxMaps uses MapMyTracks.com for live tracking and you can email the GPX of your ride to Strava straight from the app. BTW, I have no association with OruxMaps!
For running I have a premium subscription with Endomondo. I like the flexibility of the audio coach and I just noticed that they have a new beta feature on their website: 'Training Plans' where you enter your goal, goal date, number of training days, pace, etc and it creates a... Training Plan. Probably not as good as getting a customised training plan from a coach, but it's probably on par to the generic ones you can find online. I also export my runs and import them to Strava.
Regarding Strava, they have a much better looking website than Endomondo, and without a doubt the segments for cycling are awesome, but their apps are a long way from being great. Apart from being much less customisable, they only support Zephyr HxM and have no plans on supporting Polar HRMs. Apparently "there are connectivity issues with Polar HRMs and they want to give their customers the best possible experience!". I have used my Polar HRM with a number of different apps, phones and Android versions and it seems to be working fine 99% of the time, so I don't see why they can't support it. Also, it's hard to justify paying almost double of what Endomondo's premium subscription costs - but perhaps their analysis is better?
NT
Hi,
I can tell you to try the uBike.apk
For me is the best for cycling.
Regards
Joao
I've been considering buying this device to be used for working out as well, so thanks for confirming that Google Play Music will work on it! I'll be interesting to see if things get better with different ROMs.
Amazing! I thought I was the only one. I was on a year long quest to find the perfect (and better) substitute for the ever popular garmin 800 series. I do a lot of credit card touring, lots of country riding where I create the route using ridewithgps, DL as gpx and off I go. Oruxmaps has proved to be the perfect app for me when I'm doing any real riding/recording, and I use an app called Osmand+ if I'm doing a little bit more exploratory or want better navigation options (its got far better offline POI capabilities, so it helps if you get stuck in a rainstorm and need to find some kind of nearby shelter). I'm pumped to hear someone else went this route as most of my racing buddies are too high brow to get anything other than a garmin.
On a sidenote, I came up with a pretty incredible and simple (read: easy to do if you're a dummy with epoxy) way to get the male bit of the garmin mount on the back of the xperia so I could use all the low profile and cool garmin mounts. If you're interested let me know and I can give you a super easy step by step.
All that said, I'm really struggling to find a reason to root/mod the phone. I use it purely as a cycling computer right now (but plan to probably get my music on there too depending on battery life). It performs amazingly at this task as-is. Super snappy, the only thing I hate is having to look at the extra icons of the apps I'll never use. One thing I really wanted to get from rooting was the ability to skip the lock screen as that gets pretty annoying during a ride and potentially so I could remap the hardware buttons to something more useful while cycling (perhaps have it cycle through all the available apps? dunno, but it sounds cool). But, I found an app that lets you skip the lockscreen, so that major requirement has already been met.
Aside from the bloatware, have you found any nice advantages to rooting and putting on CM? Thanks in advance -
Rick
Hi Rick,
If is possible for you to send this to mu email acount ([email protected]) I thank you very much.
Regards
laquer09 said:
On a sidenote, I came up with a pretty incredible and simple (read: easy to do if you're a dummy with epoxy) way to get the male bit of the garmin mount on the back of the xperia so I could use all the low profile and cool garmin mounts. If you're interested let me know and I can give you a super easy step by step.
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Thanks for the replies guys! I was sure that there must've been other Active users/fans!
@optiplus Thanks, had a look and looks interesting! I'll have to give it ago!
@tartanblue @laquer09 What I found when I flashed CM10 was that the phone is snappier and the battery lasts a lot longer. Although I didn't do any scientific testing, with the stock ROM I would ride for an hour or so, leave it unplugged overnight and that was that pretty much. (no other usage, just on standby) With CM10 I was really surprised that it lasted a similar ride and more than 48 hours on standby. It's not a huge achievement in the sense that I have turned off all syncing, there's no Facebook or anything running, but the stock ROM has a lot of stuff running. Another thing that CM10 fixed was the super annoying flickering issue and also, at full brightness at CM10 is a lot brighter than stock, which seemed to go very bright as soon as I unlocked it and then dim. I checked the setting and it was not on auto brightness and tried with the Bravia engine on and off. Didn't work. CM10 fixed it.
I like having the screen on during the right to check cadence, speed, etc as I ride, so on the odd occasion that we were graced with a sunny day, increased brightness helped! Although I think OruxMaps has a setting to keep the screen on I use Screebl (I've linked to the paid version, but there's a free Lite version too which works well, but I found it so useful, that I just had to support the dev. I've been using it since the days of my HTC Magic - Oh how far we've come!!)
Also, as a stock Nexus user, Sony's software is just... revolting! Even the little things like the toggles in the notifications drawer is great. (and I prefer the CM way to the Google way... but what can you do?)
Having said that, for purely cycling purposes I guess stock or CM10 doesn't make a huge difference. Also, flashing the Active was a bit more complicated than I would've liked.
Regarding mounts, I got the xperia active bike holder from SportyPal (Review) and it's simple, solid and having the Active on it really looks like it's a Garmin. (when I read it back it looked like I was embarrassed about using the Active instead of the Garmin, but I didn't mean it like that!! Just that the whole mount+Active combo is quite diminutive!)
I also recently heard about the Finn and thought for 12 euros it'd be rude not to get one. When the weather is good I'd like to try recording with OruxMaps on the Active and maybe the Strava Cycling app on the Nexus 4 and see how different the results are.
Honestly though I do wish Strava pulled their finger out and sorted out their apps. How cool (and I imagine relatively easy for developers who are worth their salt) it would be to have proper BT/Ant+ support, customisable dashboard and segment notifier which would buzz to let you know that you're entering a segment!! And they would totally kill it if they added track creation capabilities on their website! But I'm just dreaming!
optiplus said:
Hi Rick,
If is possible for you to send this to mu email acount ([email protected]) I thank you very much.
Regards
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I can email you as well, but I kinda thought other folks might like to see this so I posted it up here. Let me know if you still need the email.
Things you need:
1. The male bit of the garmin mount. These are not easy to find because for the most part, the male bit is part of the plastic mold on garmin devices. However, I found this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006BACP6A/ref=pe_385040_30332190_pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_i1
2. Epoxy putty - http://spasandmore.com/catalog/quic...ts-to-repair-your-pool-spa-hot-tub-59502.html
3. A razor blade or hobby knife...something pretty dang sharp and fairly rigid. This will be used for cutting the male bit.
4. Like 45 minutes of time
What to do:
1. Take the male bit thingy from the package of stuff - image attached. Cut it around the raised edge. You can see where I cut mine in one of the attached images. The plastic was actually not difficult to cut, at all.
2. Score both the back of the xperia and the male bit pretty good. I used the edge of a scissor to do it and it worked fine.
3. Take out that epoxy, cut a bit of it off, and knead it with your fingers (basically, read the instructions on how to use it. I am not awesome at this kind of stuff and it was really straightforward).
4. Put the kneaded putty on the back of the phone, then simply press that male bit into the putty. Wait the recommended amount of time for setting (pretty sure its between 1-2 hours)
You're done. Go get whatever garmin mount you like (I really like the SRAM one that sits out in front of the bars, but you can use any of their mounts or the sweet looking barfly one.
Couple things to note
- I waaay overused the putty here. This was supposed to be my test case so I was overdoing it on purpose. Functionally its totally fine, but it is a tad ugly. After you plop the male bit onto the putty, you could probably trim a bunch of it.
- Scared its not going to hold? Don't worry, I was too. This is where that what-I-thought-was-completely-useless-lanyard comes into play. I actually put the lanyard in the phone and then ran the lanyard over my bars. I did this maybe for the first week, but I live in Chicago and I tested it using my cross bike / commuter over some really really really crappy roads with my tires at 110. I was pretty convinced after a week and stopped using the lanyard. And then I lowered my psi back to normal chicago 90 so my butt wouldn't hurt anymore Still, better safe than sorry right.
- One cool side benefit, among 100s of others, is the flashlight feature of the phone. Now, I just set it to strobe and turn it on at night...boom, no longer need a bike light
- Using bluetooth headphones and whatever music app you want rules. I didn't know how much I'd adore it before I tried...but having the ability to cycle through songs, albums, playlists....amazing.
- My xperia came with 2 backs...one black and one white. This, my supposed to be test case, is the white one. As you can see, it gets dirty. Might want to use the black one and maybe paint/marker up the putty so it matches.
Let me know if you've got any questions, and good luck. I could not be flipping happier about the way this all turned out, and my racing buddies are starting to get jealous. Lets see...a garmin 810 for 600 bucks, or a phone that has multiple options for mapping/tracking (free), can be your music player and emergency phone call maker (or anything else you can do with the android platform) for a whopping 188 bucks and maybe 20 bucks on the mount stuff.
Win
Rick
Thanks so much for posting this. I wanted to ask you in my previous post to put it somewhere like G+ or a cycling blog or something but I guess here is just fine!
laquer09 said:
I can email you as well, but I kinda thought other folks might like to see this so I posted it up here. Let me know if you still need the email.
Things you need:
1. The male bit of the garmin mount. These are not easy to find because for the most part, the male bit is part of the plastic mold on garmin devices. However, I found this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006BACP6A/ref=pe_385040_30332190_pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_i1
2. Epoxy putty - http://spasandmore.com/catalog/quic...ts-to-repair-your-pool-spa-hot-tub-59502.html
3. A razor blade or hobby knife...something pretty dang sharp and fairly rigid. This will be used for cutting the male bit.
4. Like 45 minutes of time
What to do:
1. Take the male bit thingy from the package of stuff - image attached. Cut it around the raised edge. You can see where I cut mine in one of the attached images. The plastic was actually not difficult to cut, at all.
2. Score both the back of the xperia and the male bit pretty good. I used the edge of a scissor to do it and it worked fine.
3. Take out that epoxy, cut a bit of it off, and knead it with your fingers (basically, read the instructions on how to use it. I am not awesome at this kind of stuff and it was really straightforward).
4. Put the kneaded putty on the back of the phone, then simply press that male bit into the putty. Wait the recommended amount of time for setting (pretty sure its between 1-2 hours)
You're done. Go get whatever garmin mount you like (I really like the SRAM one that sits out in front of the bars, but you can use any of their mounts or the sweet looking barfly one.
Couple things to note
- I waaay overused the putty here. This was supposed to be my test case so I was overdoing it on purpose. Functionally its totally fine, but it is a tad ugly. After you plop the male bit onto the putty, you could probably trim a bunch of it.
- Scared its not going to hold? Don't worry, I was too. This is where that what-I-thought-was-completely-useless-lanyard comes into play. I actually put the lanyard in the phone and then ran the lanyard over my bars. I did this maybe for the first week, but I live in Chicago and I tested it using my cross bike / commuter over some really really really crappy roads with my tires at 110. I was pretty convinced after a week and stopped using the lanyard. And then I lowered my psi back to normal chicago 90 so my butt wouldn't hurt anymore Still, better safe than sorry right.
- One cool side benefit, among 100s of others, is the flashlight feature of the phone. Now, I just set it to strobe and turn it on at night...boom, no longer need a bike light
- Using bluetooth headphones and whatever music app you want rules. I didn't know how much I'd adore it before I tried...but having the ability to cycle through songs, albums, playlists....amazing.
- My xperia came with 2 backs...one black and one white. This, my supposed to be test case, is the white one. As you can see, it gets dirty. Might want to use the black one and maybe paint/marker up the putty so it matches.
Let me know if you've got any questions, and good luck. I could not be flipping happier about the way this all turned out, and my racing buddies are starting to get jealous. Lets see...a garmin 810 for 600 bucks, or a phone that has multiple options for mapping/tracking (free), can be your music player and emergency phone call maker (or anything else you can do with the android platform) for a whopping 188 bucks and maybe 20 bucks on the mount stuff.
Win
Rick
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ntoqiakt said:
Thanks so much for posting this. I wanted to ask you in my previous post to put it somewhere like G+ or a cycling blog or something but I guess here is just fine!
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No problem - I'd love to post it on a cycling blog/forum if you can point me to the right one. There are so many out there...I've never actually joined any. I could also put it on G+...PM me your email address and I'll add you into one of my groups and post it there. Even though this solution was simple, it took me a darn long time to come up with and I'd love to save folks the time/effort/money/despair.
FWIW, I used it on a 60mi custom route I made this weekend and it was friggin flawless. Not a single missed turn and the route was perfect. I've recently started listening to music using it via my BT headphones. That is so much win I can barely handle it.
Rick
ntoqiakt said:
I recently bought a used Xperia Active mainly to be used as a cycling computer (with the awesome app OruxMaps) and for recording my runs using Endomondo. The stock ROM was bloated with all sorts so after a few days it just had to go.
First I flashed CM10.1 but apparently the BT stack is borked on that so Ant+ is not working, so I flashed CM10 and everything works great or at least everything that I need. It connects to my BT x-fit headphones, BT Polar HRM and Ant+ B'Twin Speed and Cadence sensor without any major issues - the audio cuts out occasionally but I'm not sure if it's an issue with Google Music/All Access or a 3G connectivity or BT issue and haven't bothered investigating to be honest.
NT
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Hello,
at the begining i would like say "hello" im new member on xda so BTW...
I'm looking for CM10 working with SE Xperia Active ST17I.
I saw that upgrade was succesfull.
Could You tell me where download (all links "died") or share package of working files to upgrade Xperia Active to CM10 and android 4.1.2?
I ve upgraded xperia to 4.0.4 and I would like try highest version of software. It is great device for active Cyclists.
Please help. Thank You for reply :good:
Regards
I've had my fair share of smartphones, all with ups and downs, but I'd like to think that the 10 is pretty close to being the perfect phone. I want to know what you guys think, as fellow owners. I'll give you a rundown of my most recent phones that I'm comparing to.
Nexus 6p
Nexus 5x
Galaxy s7
Moto X Pure
Droid Turbo 2
Droid Turbo
Thanks for your input!! [emoji16]
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I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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charklos said:
I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
jcase said:
I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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Sounds promising!! I can't wait to free my phone!!
Sent from my phone, autocorrect may have "helped" me
Being away from the android market for some time now the m9 be my return phone and 10 my current I'd say it's pretty solid. Androids come a long way since the early days.
In case you can't see below signature, I've had a handful of HTC handsets since the Incredible and tested still more. The 10 is the best they've ever put out. I'm finding it snappy; love the sound with headphones and don't mind the loss of stereo via the speaker. I don't know how I lived without a fingerprint scanner and I have always been partial to hardware buttons. I've never tried a Nexus both because they aren't always available for Verizon and they never take removable storage which is a deal breaker for me.
My first smartphone was the droid eris and i only purchased it because it was able to be s-off'ed. Then i upgraded to htc incredible 2 which was quite an upgrade, then i jumped to the SGS III. Then i bought the M8 which was a good phone, but had such a horrible camera. I think HTC nailed this phone and i never thought how much i love the fingerprint scanner. Never been a fan of encrypting a phone, but how its default now. I have to say its going pretty well. Now that sunshine has been updated to allow unlocking without mail in, I think the development will get even better. I can't wait to flash a AOSP ROM.
I'm loving it. It's definitely a step up from the m9 in my opinion. Better battery life, screen and camera. My only complaints are about the keyboard (screw TouchPal) and the audio isn't quite as loud as the m9.
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Edit: Never mind.
Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
Truly, truly the best phone I've owned in my personal opinion. I thought the Nexus 6P was fantastic until I got the HTC 10; and although the Nexus 6P is obviously cheaper, the difference in quality had me quite in shock. Only complaint is the abysmal speaker volume, miss the boomsound from the M8.
simoninseattle said:
Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
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You can manually change the screen temperature settings.
Settings>Display, gestures & buttons>Color Profile.
I agree with you on the volume level though.
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
simoninseattle said:
What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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I think he is referring to the QC quick charge 3.0
pjd2011 said:
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
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- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- Android Auto: I don't use it so I wouldn't know, as I just use Maps.
- Sexiness: Again, preferences.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
Battery: I find battery to be great given it's only a 3000 mAh. It's not as good as my previous Droid Turbo(3900 mAh) but the QC 3.0 make up for it.
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richii0207 said:
- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
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Yeah, Quick Charge definitely makes up for any difference in battery compared to the Turbo.
As for the signal, it's definitely a rogue issue but I find myself having to enter and exit airplane mode more and more frequently to gain 4G. Usually I'd only have this problem on AOSP Roms on non-Nexus devices.
The screen randomly waking is just flat out annoying. Especially on runs. Accidentally called my CIO the other day when my phone was locked and in my pocket....Not good.
The SD card issue truly is my biggest complaints as I wanted to have this device for my music. I left on a week long vacation and just before boarding my flight I lost all my music. Incredibly annoying and it's always been set as external storage. When attempting to use internal I get the same issue (when testing).
As for the LCD I understand it's complete preference but other LCD panels I've used did not have this issue. When you're out on a boat and in the sun as much as I am you're always wearing polarized glasses. This thing is unreadable out in the daylight.
I don't have issues with signal, or really anything. I would say main grip (minimal) is Wi-Fi does drain battery more than LTE. I will say it's a lot better with custom sense Tom though.
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I'm going on my 2nd day with the HTC 10 and I can say I'm pleasantly surprised. After being a Samsung junky coming from a S7 Edge and then the Note 7 I can honestly say I am very pleased with my switch to HTC. I've owned nearly every Samsung flagship since the Note 3. Everything has been working great for me and the near AOSP compared to TouchWiz is great. The camera isn't much of a downgrade from Samsung at all and that really makes me happy. I've been using the phone caseless until mine comes in the mail tomorrow so I've really gotten a good feel for the phone. It handles well and is built nice. I S-Offed and rooted shortly after I got the phone and have zero regrets on the switch. I just wish I did it sooner and I would have saved a bunch of cash from phone switching. Nice job HTC with the build and @jcase and the team for root.
Horrible device, would definitely not recommend this to anyone. Uses a crazy amount of data that the phone doesn't seem to be registering (according to my cell phone I went through 1.2GB of data, the phone is showing 133MB). Battery life is beyond horrible (yes everything possible is disabled -- not syncing, not using photo sync, not using backup, disabled all gestures, turned off all google now/google anything services, screen is set to dim just enough to barely see it). Just using KIK for 20 minutes yesterday I lost 10% battery (no joke). Wifi is still buggy, even after the 186 firmware update. Can't tell if its Marshmallow in general or HTC's garbage services that is causing all these problems. There are so many little annoying things with the Verizon build too -- default email app doesn't resize HTML messages so everything is HUGE, the power toggle widget sucks -- you click wifi which normally turns it on/off but it instead brings you to the wifi settings where you then have to manually turn it on/off, things like this that I have to deal with daily is slowly driving me crazy. Going back to my old device until my data gets the monthly reset, then I'll try some custom ROMs to see if it helps with these issues.
Honestly, the only good feature on this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It did make me realize how much I love my little Razr M which I would go through a full day of use and still only be at 90-85% battery.