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Today I (supposedly) disabled lowmemorykiller by putting zero in minfree and adj files. I already have swap partition set up (size 1 GB) in a class 10 SDHC card.
Then I proceeded to open all the apps that I have installed and set them in a different state from default (like opening its settings, opening a file in case of officesuite etc).
These things happened:
1. After a max limit, older apps started to vanish from task manager to make space for newer apps
2. used swap space did not exceed 122 MB
3. when I tried to return to very old apps, some of them retained their last state giving an illusion of multitasking but a text message I was typing disappeared, did not even get saved as draft. ALL web browsers were killed. Some reloaded pages from internet, Opera Mini and Easy Browser failed to save last state (they always fail, so does Adobe Reader) so they were back to home screen with all opened tabs lost.
4. After an incoming call, when I returned to all the apps a second time, I found that all but the lightest of apps had lost their last states.
After setting minfree to zero and enabling swap with 60 swappiness Android is still killing apps without my permission.
<rant> I usually have less than 10 apps open and some of them can be memory intensive. Multitasking is better than default now, but still kinda random. I can't ever be sure that if I open this document now, I won't find my previous 20 minutes of research session lost upon returning to browser (history is messy for retrieving long sessions and very short in case of Opera Mini. Even Chrome browser sometimes crashes and gets reset not to mention always reloading all pages while Android Browser in ICS only renders crashes. My data limit is 3 GB/month). The three major handheld OS right now are Android, iOS, WM7 so don't tell me to stop whining and change OS; there is nowhere to go. At least Android is open source and there is a chance of someone legally implementing proper (like in PC) multitasking in it except multiple instances of same app which will probably be a little too much to ask for from a community but seeing that browsing the web is my main concern and all browsers already support multiple tabs, it will not be a deal-breaker for me</rant>
So my question is, how do I stop this T1000 Ninja Edition? Throw it into the chasm of Mount Doom?
On a serious note, any help will be appreciated. If you can't solve it but know what is killing my app sessions, please explain that.
SO I have come to the conclusion that ICS's maximum limit of Background apps is 18. As long as the app is not older than 19, it should be visible in task manager and should be in memory. I have set swappiness to 100 and use of swap memory increased to 221220. I'll put further pressure on it to see how it behaves when lots of tabs are open but I am afraid that 100 swappiness will make the device crash if too many tabs are open. It has already started to suddenly reboot time to time.
Edit:
It does not work that way. Android seems to really have its own will in this matter. There is no rule found by me so far that can predict when an app will be unloaded from memory. It seems time plays a role too.
At least iOS and WP7 clearly state that they do not support multitask. Google is the worst of all.
Edit:
Chrome Browser is not loading the pages from internet upon being recalled from task manager. It is loading the pages from swap but looks just like loading over 3G. Any changes in the actual pages are not being reflected until I manually hit reload. Not sure if other browsers will follow suit.
So, I have a Huawei H866c and it is rooted. I am using the stock Android 2.3.6 OS.
I have SD Maid and the whole reason I am going through this now is I want to keep my phone running at its best.
I deleted many of the bloatware stock apps (the Google Play Music, Video, Google Calendar, Google Talk, Gmail, etc).
What I still have stock would be easier as I can't remember all I deleted: Browser, downloads, Maps, Navigation, Contacts, Dialer, Call log Clock Camera, Gallery, File manager, Messaging, E-mail, Phone Calendar, All Backup, Notepad, Play Store, YouTube, Google Search**
Now I had a question about that, is this Google Search app all right to delete?
Anyway back to it, I have SD Maid pro and System Tuner, so to help make things easy with all stuff in one place
Phone:
ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v71)
Linux version 2.6.38.6-perf
800MHz
SD Card:
PQI
4GB Micro SD
A1 SD Bench results:
• SD card:
3,774MB total, 3,260 MB free
Read 16.03 MB/s - Write 2.56MB/s
• Internal Memory:
165MB total - 54MB free
Read 0.00MB/s - Write 4.93MB/s
• RAM
173MB total - 27MB free
RAM copy 807.89MB/s
Now after I totally clear out everything with system cleaner using SD Maid Pro and reboot my phone...
Before I do anything, if I open and scan with SD Maid Pro, I get 10 files every time in Tombstones and 11 in Dropbox and often get 10+ in LOST.DIR directories.
System Tuner Pro tweaks:
• Build Tweaks:
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit 64m
dalvik.vm.heapsize 256m
dalvik.vmheapstartsize 8m
persist.adb.notify 0
• SysCtl Tweaks:
None because this stuff I don't understand.
• CPU Tweaks:
Performance governor
CPU Frequency 800MHz
CPU Load varies as needed
• SD Tweaks:
Cache Size 1024MB
IO Scheduler cfq
• OOM Tweaks
Preset: Medium (Foreground Apps at 4MB and Empty Apps at 64MB, gradually increasing from Foreground to Empty)
FM Radio frozen
So what I have questions with are (and I know some of these may not be possible):
• How can I change my language to British English without changing my location? I need things like market to show up in USD not Pounds? I hate switching back and forth between US and GB English.
• What are various ways I can optimise my phone for best performance? I don't care about sacrificing battery life.
• Why do I consistently get [what I assume to be] the same 10 tombstones? The drop box always increases by 11 more files over time, even if the tombstones don't (which they never do). Is this something to worry about? It takes up no room, deleting them doesn't seem to harm my phone, and it is just irritating to have to clean them up all the time. Could they be in relation to the bloatware I deleted?
Other Useful Information
I do have some random coding experience (SecondLife [yeah I know, *shudders*], C#, Java).
I also have the Android SDK Eclipse Juno and some very minor experience coding in there (trying to make a music theory quick reference app).
anathematized_one said:
• What are various ways I can optimise my phone for best performance? I don't care about sacrificing battery life.
• Why do I consistently get [what I assume to be] the same 10 tombstones? The drop box always increases by 11 more files over time, even if the tombstones don't (which they never do). Is this something to worry about? It takes up no room, deleting them doesn't seem to harm my phone, and it is just irritating to have to clean them up all the time. Could they be in relation to the bloatware I deleted?
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You can look at kernels that allow overclocking.
The tombstones are more comprehensive crash reports that get created when certain apps/system elements crash.
Two options:
You could either open them and see if you can figure out what is crashing from their content and then try to prevent the crashs creating those tombstones
Or you delete them all and change permissions on that folder so they can't be created anymore (works on some device and doesn't work on others), but it's a kind of crude solution.
The files in the dropbox folder are various logreports similiar to logcat but gathered from more sources, you have the same two options here.
There might be a third option where these two features can be turned off through a custom kernel / flags, but i'm not sure about that.
Removing/breaking logging features is never a good solution.
Dark3n said:
You can look at kernels that allow overclocking.
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I will look more into that at another time.
Dark3n said:
The tombstones are more comprehensive crash reports that get created when certain apps/system elements crash.
Two options:
You could either open them and see if you can figure out what is crashing from their content and then try to prevent the crashs creating those tombstones
Or you delete them all and change permissions on that folder so they can't be created anymore (works on some device and doesn't work on others), but it's a kind of crude solution.
The files in the dropbox folder are various logreports similiar to logcat but gathered from more sources, you have the same two options here.
There might be a third option where these two features can be turned off through a custom kernel / flags, but i'm not sure about that.
Removing/breaking logging features is never a good solution.
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Well, I looked at the log files and they were in relation to two specific programs, one of which I don't use (Adobe PDF reader). I forget the other (I only just now could get back on my computer and my phone doesn't have the power to open XDA in the browser). So these aren't a big deal, I can just clean them.
So another thing I was looking at was I have a better MicroSD card that I am going to switch out for my current one and I was looking into "partitioning" off some space for virtual RAM, but I don't know much about flash memory or even if this is possible on Android 2.3.6
For such a thing, I found this link (I would make an actual link but I don't have 10 posts yet) and it says:
One of the worst things on certain budget-friendly smartphones is not having quite enough RAM. This normally isn’t a big deal for many users who use their phone for the practical purposes of calling people, sending texts, and checking email. However for people who do a lot more with their devices such as gaming and heavy app usage, the shortage of RAM may be a bit more limiting. Running out of RAM can cause a lot of problems such as app crashes and large-scale lag.
[...] lower end devices can enable a swap file and partition thanks to a method written up by XDA Senior Member CarlDeanCatabay. This is similar to the pagefile used in windows, and while it isn’t nearly as fast as RAM, it may help certain apps that require a bit more breathing room.
[...]
What is SWAP : Swap is, in short, virtual RAM. With swap, a small portion of the hard drive is set aside and used like RAM. The computer will attempt to keep as much information as possible in RAM until the RAM is full. At that point, the computer will begin moving inactive blocks of memory (called pages) to the hard disk, freeing up RAM for active processes. [...]
What you need:
MiniTool Partition Wizard for SD Card Partitioning
A MicroSD HC 4GB or higher class 6 or class 10
MicroSD HC Card Adapter
A card reader (if your pc doesn’t have card reader built in | USB Mount is not adviseable)
Swapper2 from Google Play Store [DOWNLOAD]
ADB Shell or terminal Emulator (to check if swap is activated)
Make sure you have BusyBox installed
How to create Swap Partition
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Does that look like something that is legitimate?
Is there any other/better way to virtually increase the RAM? I just tried that above method and couldn't even get it to work. I swapped to my other 4 gig micro SD:
• Samsung microSDHC
• Read 18.81 MB/s - write 3.56 MB/s
So it can't read as fast but writes faster, then again I also have it formatted with 3 different partitions from where I was going to try out the swapping but that failed so... who knows when I quit being lazy and reformat it to be normal.
Is there any other system besides minfree, which frees up memory in android? Have strange behavior of FBReader, which I set to OOM -17 (both processes), chmod to r/o oom_adj files to force it to stick and still cant hold it in memory. It seems to me, that after some time when I dont use phone (hour or two) it is just released and starting again instead of just resuming from memory. If I try to force FBR from memory just by running many other programs, it sticks there no problem. I can run everything it never happened to me that FBR is released and starting again. But when I sleep phone ane leave it, then after some unpredictable time, FBR (and other apps) are just released and starting again. It seems to me, that there is running other process, which just releases apps in Empty app state. Or maybe there is some timeout for empty app, which is then automaticaly ended?
I'm using Nik3r EX8 kernel with 192mb swap enabled, latest viper rom.
Wlk said:
Is there any other system besides minfree, which frees up memory in android? Have strange behavior of FBReader, which I set to OOM -17 (both processes), chmod to r/o oom_adj files to force it to stick and still cant hold it in memory. It seems to me, that after some time when I dont use phone (hour or two) it is just released and starting again instead of just resuming from memory. If I try to force FBR from memory just by running many other programs, it sticks there no problem. I can run everything it never happened to me that FBR is released and starting again. But when I sleep phone ane leave it, then after some unpredictable time, FBR (and other apps) are just released and starting again. It seems to me, that there is running other process, which just releases apps in Empty app state. Or maybe there is some timeout for empty app, which is then automaticaly ended?
I'm using Nik3r EX8 kernel with 192mb swap enabled, latest viper rom.
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You`ve probably already heard this but android will automatically free up ram by killing of the launcher/system processes as a user app draws more ram, if you run out, android will kill the app using the most ram, usually the app you are trying to use hence crashing/stopping. You can tell if something is using too much ram when the launcher/Htc Sense frequently reloads. If you experience this flash the 256mb swap. Leave minfrees as stock, that way multitasking will actually work (with swap mod). If that doesn`t work, ARHD 6.5 has an enhance multitasking tweak in aroma, download the rom, unzip and in the aroma or extra folder just extract the mod and copy to your phone using root explorer.
I use the ultimate minfree setting in Viper settings, you have to disable usb debugging in developer settings for this to work i read somewhere, restart once set.
-smc
ryanjsoo said:
You`ve probably already heard this but android will automatically free up ram by killing of the launcher/system processes as a user app draws more ram, if you run out, android will kill the app using the most ram, usually the app you are trying to use hence crashing/stopping.
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Sure, this is Minfree proces, but my problem is bit different. It seems to me, that system has enough ram and allows me to run quite a lot of apps without forcing my FBReader out of memory - when I try in one session. I even set FBR to have OOM value -17, which should force Minfree to ignore this process completely, same as it should do for launcher. But as soon as I leave phone for some time in sleep mode, there seems to be some other mechanism besides Minfree. And this one kills my app - and I dunno why and what is it...
somemadcaaant said:
I use the ultimate minfree setting in Viper settings, you have to disable usb debugging in developer settings for this to work i read somewhere, restart once set.
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Trying to restart, because I set it without it before, but it didnt hold after phone wake up - already reported this in Viper thread. Lets see if it gets better with reboot - and it doesnt. You can easily check in adb shell by running
Code:
cat /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree
Minfree is reset every time you sleep/wake up phone...
I confirm the problem.
Whichever ROM I use, I can hardly reply SMS/Whatsapp without loosing Browser or CoolReader.
Actually, I counted limit of 2 hot apps.
The scenario is:
1) I read a book or RSS-reader
2) I receive a text via SMS or WhatsApp
3) For answering I need a browsing for some fact-quoting. At the moment I open a browser, the first application (Book or RSS reader) is killed.
Scenario may vary, but when I open third app, the first one is killed for sure.
I tuned minfree as well, and detected that it is overwritten every reboot too. I usually have 160-200MB free of RAM, and minfree values, either mine (24MB) or default (80MB) are always lower than actual size of available memory.
I switched on "Developer mode" (touch 7 times something in About System. probably ROM version), and specified background limit "At most 4 apps" instead of "Standard limit" (unknown to me). It doesn't help either - third app kills the first.
And I never managed to obtain a solution.
Just adding my vote to the problem (thus bumping the topic).
How do I free up RAM for my Samsung Note II LTE GT-N7105 on stock Android 4.3, rooted?
I am an Android retarded user looking for a patient teacher who will walk me through the Android RAM mysteries and answer a few question and, in exchnage, I can teach about the secret world of Traditional Neapolitan coffee infusion: home roasting, grinding, preparation and... savouring or, alternatively, Home Theatre! Your pick!
Smiles!
On average, at startup,
- Clean Master shows:
> 50% RAM
> 70% Device Storage
> 20% SDcard External Storage.
- Titanium Back shows:
> 500MB free RAM (of 2.11GB)
> 4GB free Internal+Media (of 10.9GB)
> 50GB free ExtSDcard (of 63.8GB)
Starting with these numbers, the device freezes after a bit of usage of the Swipe (Nuance) App. But I recently played with a 78 year old banker's GT-N7105, which was 20 times faster than mine, while running the same Swipe keyboard App: "My nephew geeks around a forum called xda-developers!"
1. In general, what's the relationship between installed Apps and RAM usage? Sometimes when I kill an app it frees up a bit of RAM, sometimes a lot and sometimes nothing at all.
2. Do installed (but not opened) Apps take up RAM space just by sitting in my Apps drawer? Should I uninstall all the Apps which I downloaded because "one day I might need it" and never used them or are they harmless (RAM wise) if I don't open them?
3. Do Apps which have been launched and now sit in the background take up RAM (as in Windows)?
4. Is there any difference between "fereezing" and "un-installing" an app as far as device operation speed is concerned?
5. Do I need to make sure that Apps don't start up if I don't need them (Google Play Services, Google Play Store, Goggle Translation, YouTube, Video Player, S Voice, Picasa Uploader, Nearby Service, Nearby Devices, SNS)?
6. If they eat up RAM, how do I make sure that they don't self start? Android Assistant App?
7. If background open Apps eat up RAM, is there a way to kill them automatically once I open a new one without loosing the cahced data which i might be using?
Thanks in advance for your time and expertise.
ascanio1 said:
How do I free up RAM for my Samsung Note II LTE GT-N7105 on stock Android 4.3, rooted?
I am an Android retarded user looking for a patient teacher who will walk me through the Android RAM mysteries and answer a few question and, in exchnage, I can teach about the secret world of Traditional Neapolitan coffee infusion: home roasting, grinding, preparation and... savouring or, alternatively, Home Theatre! Your pick!
Smiles!
On average, at startup,
- Clean Master shows:
> 50% RAM
> 70% Device Storage
> 20% SDcard External Storage.
- Titanium Back shows:
> 500MB free RAM (of 2.11GB)
> 4GB free Internal+Media (of 10.9GB)
> 50GB free ExtSDcard (of 63.8GB)
Starting with these numbers, the device freezes after a bit of usage of the Swipe (Nuance) App. But I recently played with a 78 year old banker's GT-N7105, which was 20 times faster than mine, while running the same Swipe keyboard App: "My nephew geeks around a forum called xda-developers!"
1. In general, what's the relationship between installed Apps and RAM usage? Sometimes when I kill an app it frees up a bit of RAM, sometimes a lot and sometimes nothing at all.
2. Do installed (but not opened) Apps take up RAM space just by sitting in my Apps drawer? Should I uninstall all the Apps which I downloaded because "one day I might need it" and never used them or are they harmless (RAM wise) if I don't open them?
3. Do Apps which have been launched and now sit in the background take up RAM (as in Windows)?
4. Is there any difference between "fereezing" and "un-installing" an app as far as device operation speed is concerned?
5. Do I need to make sure that Apps don't start up if I don't need them (Google Play Services, Google Play Store, Goggle Translation, YouTube, Video Player, S Voice, Picasa Uploader, Nearby Service, Nearby Devices, SNS)?
6. If they eat up RAM, how do I make sure that they don't self start? Android Assistant App?
7. If background open Apps eat up RAM, is there a way to kill them automatically once I open a new one without loosing the cahced data which i might be using?
Thanks in advance for your time and expertise.
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Ugggg I hate this app lately! Just spent ten minuets answering all your points fully and it gave me stupid permission error! Even wrote a nice analogy about ram and libraries...forgive me if I'm brief now
Sum it up
Poorly made apps or ones that need to stay in the background to operate fully or spy on you stay in ram, many don't, dump bad and seldom used apps, stay away from task killers, if you need one use watchdog, see what's actually using cpu, better battery stats or cpu spy can help too. Freezing is fine, v6supercharger can help you, setting background process limit in developer settings can help
You have a nice snappy phone, get rid of junk and use nice roms and you'll have no issues
Secret world of traditional neapolitan coffee infusion sounds intriguing
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i would suggest installing and using greenify, since u already rooted.
post #3 of that thread is worth reading, probably will answer most, if not all of your question regarding android ram usage
@an0nym0us_
Cool advice, thanks! I installed and I will try it now.
@an0nym0us_
Cool advice, thanks! I installed and I will try it now.
@demkantor
I only got the jist of it but I didn't really understand... any chance to try again, when you have more time on your hands?
There are 3 aspects that make up coffee flavour: the beans' quality, roasting and preparation.
Beans (origin, ripeness, homogeneity, dryness) and roasting (tempreature, duration) are, for now, out of your reach. But preparation isn't.
Most infusion's preparation depends on 3 basic parameters:
- temperature
- time
- contact surface.
Threfore brewing time and temperature and the beans' grind size (and also the grinding method) will influence the coffee taste: the greater the time, temperature (up to 95°C) and surface the greater the organoleptic proprieties' transfer will occurr. Which does not necessarily mean the better taste... more on that in the next lesson.
Organoleptic properties are the aspects of food or other substances as experienced by the senses, including taste, sight, smell, and touch, in cases where dryness, moisture, and stale-fresh factors are to be considered.
Hello all.
After recently obtaining root (see thread asus padfone x mini rooting device) I thought we could all begin to catalog what we have changed. Any app that required root and has proven useful and effective for you, please share it here and I will begin to aggregate all of the useful tools here in this top post.
Some stuff you might want to try after rooting
(Copied from my other thread)
A couple things I did with my phone after root.
1. Froze all bloatware. I might remove it later but I felt safer just freezing it with Titanium Backup in case I find out later it screwed something up.
2. Installed a CPU tweaker like 3C ToolBox. If I choose any governor besides interactive, the phone crashes, freezes and just won't play nice. But I have it set to on boot interactive, 1.33GHz - 1.6GHz and no problem. Phone is much faster now. Also for screen off I have ondemand 800MHZ - 933MHz with 1 CPU online, 2nd free and 3rd offline. Ondemand seems to work fine in screen off maybe because I am not accessing apps on the fly. Before root this phone would suck away the battery life and I would only be able to get 6 hours out of it. I assume it was because all the CPU's were online running high and lows and draining the battery as well as the bloatware just lingering in the background sucking up precious resources. I was right. Once I forced the screen off settings my battery now last 3-4x longer. I can have a full charge in the morning and it still be at about 50% - 60% late at night with the occasional checking emails, checking on a game or two and surfing the web. Awesome!
3. On a more important note, I HATED the AT&T boot up sound. Dun dun dun dun snap. Awful! At night it wakes my wife up when I am in bed needing to reboot my phone. I had to smother it with a pillow to muffle the sound. There was no way to change or quiet it. It was a forced noise on a forced volume. However, I used X-Plore, gave it root and navigated to /system/media/audio and renamed powerup.wav to powerup.wav.bak. No more annoying AT&T sound at bootup! Whoohoo! It is quiet as can be. Love it.
4. I also hated the low battery noise. So I went to /system/media/audio/ui and renamed lowbattery.ogg to lowbattery.ogg.bak and now no more annoying low battery notifications. Only the popup window notifies me. Yay! Progress!
5. Installed SD Fix! Finally! My 3rd party apps can now write to my external micro SD card. This allows for installing apps to SD, moving their data and just overall more usage of the micro sd card that was stupidly blocked when KitKat 4.2.2 was released. I don't care if it has more security risks. Unless they plan on making 64GB+ a standard for all phones for built-in memory, I need my micro sd card to work as intended.
This phone is 100% better because of root. Happy rooting!
How in the world do you move apps to the sd card? I did the SD fix but there is no option to move apps to sd.
Moving apps to SD
pjohnson87 said:
How in the world do you move apps to the sd card? I did the SD fix but there is no option to move apps to sd.
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I should of been more clear on moving apps to sd. Sorry about that. The operating system doesn't support apps to sd currently at least to my knowledge. Asus will have to come out with an update to their own OS or maybe someone here can do it. However, using the sd fix brings down one more obstacle to getting apps to sd working. Or, just wait for a custom rom.
NEED ROOT!
How was root obtained?!
JDubbed said:
(Copied from my other thread)
A couple things I did with my phone after root.
1. Froze all bloatware. I might remove it later but I felt safer just freezing it with Titanium Backup in case I find out later it screwed something up.
2. Installed a CPU tweaker like 3C ToolBox. If I choose any governor besides interactive, the phone crashes, freezes and just won't play nice. But I have it set to on boot interactive, 1.33GHz - 1.6GHz and no problem. Phone is much faster now. Also for screen off I have ondemand 800MHZ - 933MHz with 1 CPU online, 2nd free and 3rd offline. Ondemand seems to work fine in screen off maybe because I am not accessing apps on the fly. Before root this phone would suck away the battery life and I would only be able to get 6 hours out of it. I assume it was because all the CPU's were online running high and lows and draining the battery as well as the bloatware just lingering in the background sucking up precious resources. I was right. Once I forced the screen off settings my battery now last 3-4x longer. I can have a full charge in the morning and it still be at about 50% - 60% late at night with the occasional checking emails, checking on a game or two and surfing the web. Awesome!
3. On a more important note, I HATED the AT&T boot up sound. Dun dun dun dun snap. Awful! At night it wakes my wife up when I am in bed needing to reboot my phone. I had to smother it with a pillow to muffle the sound. There was no way to change or quiet it. It was a forced noise on a forced volume. However, I used X-Plore, gave it root and navigated to /system/media/audio and renamed powerup.wav to powerup.wav.bak. No more annoying AT&T sound at bootup! Whoohoo! It is quiet as can be. Love it.
4. I also hated the low battery noise. So I went to /system/media/audio/ui and renamed lowbattery.ogg to lowbattery.ogg.bak and now no more annoying low battery notifications. Only the popup window notifies me. Yay! Progress!
5. Installed SD Fix! Finally! My 3rd party apps can now write to my external micro SD card. This allows for installing apps to SD, moving their data and just overall more usage of the micro sd card that was stupidly blocked when KitKat 4.2.2 was released. I don't care if it has more security risks. Unless they plan on making 64GB+ a standard for all phones for built-in memory, I need my micro sd card to work as intended.
This phone is 100% better because of root. Happy rooting!
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The phone is dual core so why set three cpu's
the phone is set from factory with interactive 1.6GHz max but it's low is like 200 I checked it out with pimp my rom but didn't change or keep any tweets as my battery life is fine
SDK fix is important you can't even delete files off SDK without it I believe bloat is what causes battery drain trilla the rooting thread top post works
My mod list
Ok, so I wanted to post a reply to this to list what I have done after root access was obtained.
1. I installed Titainum and removed most of the bloatware from AT&T, along with some of the random stuff I don't need.
2. I installed permissions denied to remove permissions from apps and games that don't need access to things like my contacts or network access.
3. Installed busy box and terminal emulator so I have some basic linux commands and can configure my iptables firewall. (on a side note I am still looking at how to install the "netfilter" kernel module to allow droidwall firewall and network logging)
4. Still working on enabling WiFi tether. ( I use Straight Talk, not AT&T )
5. Installed ES File Explorer and gave it root permissions.
6. This doesn't really require root but I added Owncloud for my cloud storage on my own server, Subsonic for music streaming on my own server, carddav for syncing contacts from my own server and configured my email from my own email server. I like to keep all of my information on my server rather then Google's servers, and I am so far completely disconnected from Google other then using their servers to get my apps I use.
Once I get #4 and #5 finished and all my apps I use installed I will be stripping everything "Google" related out of the device including all of google play's services, Gmail and any background services not needed. Since Google wants to use their services for tracking user data I don't feel the need to keep them...
GE3K.me said:
Since Google wants to use their services for tracking user data I don't feel the need to keep them...
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doesnt matter if you use google,microsoft/bing, or any other service, all of them track you no matter what you try to do. i just avoid putting anything detrimental to me on my phones. no credit card data, no ss numbers, etc. all else is basically public knowledge anyway
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Cognacentertainment said:
doesnt matter if you use google,microsoft/bing, or any other service, all of them track you no matter what you try to do. i just avoid putting anything detrimental to me on my phones. no credit card data, no ss numbers, etc. all else is basically public knowledge anyway
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Yes, all of the above invade our privacy which is why all of my email, cloud storage, and music is hosted on my own server at my house and secured with SSL encryption. I don't use microsoft, google or apple for my personal information, but I keep a gmail account for a junk mail account (not connected to my phone) and exchange for work. Also my phone is encrypted as well as my text messaging database (text secure). Now I know this does not fix all vulnerabilities but it sure does reduce them and make me feel better that my information is for the better part under my control. As far as credit card data, if I were to even consider putting that on my phone or even my SS number it would all be stored under an encrypted database.
I also do not use public hotspots since that would just open a whole other world of vulnerabilities.
JDubbed said:
I should of been more clear on moving apps to sd. Sorry about that. The operating system doesn't support apps to sd currently at least to my knowledge. Asus will have to come out with an update to their own OS or maybe someone here can do it. However, using the sd fix brings down one more obstacle to getting apps to sd working. Or, just wait for a custom rom.
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After I rooted my Mini X, I just re-partitioned my 64gb external micro sd into 3 parts. 50 gb as ntfs for regular storage, 10 gb as ext4 for link2sd app to create a link for moving apps to the sd. and the rest which was a little over 3 gb or so as swap space to help with the 1gb low ram using memory swap for root. I keep all of my important apps on the 8 gb internal phone storage... or 4gb and the rest of them go to the 10 gb reserved within the partition i created on the sd. as far as "memory swap for root" goes. It took some time to figure out how to use the swap partition, because the location /dev/block/mmcblk1p3 didn't exist. but after I rebooted everything worked as it should have. Now my mini x which is running net 10 can outrun the zenfone 5 on the antutu benchmark. There is a little glitch when you reboot, which is probably the sd mounting but after that everything runs much faster. Considering how crappy it ran from being stock. I almost took it back.
Still waiting for cwm and cyanogenmod to meet this phone. I hope this trick helped you I won't be around much online to make a step by step how to on this. Considering i am currently a laser technician and working 12 hour shifts at the moment. But to format the micro i used "full wipe" and to create partitions i used "AParted" by sylkat tools
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3. Installed busy box and terminal emulator so I have some basic linux commands and can configure my iptables firewall. (on a side note I am still looking at how to install the "netfilter" kernel module to allow droidwall firewall and network logging)
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I bought a Zenfone 5 and after rooting, I just discovered that the kernel does not support netfilter, so Droidwall cannot work !! :crying:
why Asus doesnt have this ? wish I had known earlier.
rht_sg said:
I bought a Zenfone 5 and after rooting, I just discovered that the kernel does not support netfilter, so Droidwall cannot work !! :crying:
why Asus doesnt have this ? wish I had known earlier.
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Yeah, I actually returned my Asus Padfone because I couldn't use netfilter. I needed it for network logging and Droidwall, so it was kinda a deal breaker... I ended up getting a Sony Xperia T2 unlocked and rooting it, so far everything I needed is working better then I would hoped with the Sony.
I wish you luck with your Zenfone.
Custom ROM ?
Hey all,
I'm new to the padfone x mini seeing that my note 2 finally said I give up.. But what has to happen to get a ROM oor this thing.. It seems to me that the padfone x mini has a decent amount of potential here!.. I am no developer and have never done so but I know my way around d a PC and I know my way around linux a bit. I would just like to know where to start for developing a ROM for this phone and my first actually... Any help or guidance in the proper direction is much appreciated.
Factory rom backup?
Did anyone do a backup? We're really going to need one.
I installed Root Booster which made my phone actually stable. It hasn't crashed since I installed it and paid for the high stability mode.
Removed a lot of the Google and AT&T apps. The GOOGLE app itself and the Play Music, Play Videos, Play Books, etc. were removed with the store intact and related services left alone.
Performance jumped up once I removed the "Google" app named essentially just that, "Google".
But most importantly, it is stable. Like when I installed Lollipop on the Padfone X regular, this one makes the tablet worth it and proves that AT&T destroyed yet another device with its idiocy. But I'm running this on T-Mobile since the device itself was unlocked when I got mine for $99.
Also, I reinstalled the Google Music, Video apps since you can but I wanted to remove the default version that comes preinstalled with the ROM. BUT make sure to use System app remover (ROOT) by Jumobile. If you uninstall too much, this lets you restore it right back. Just don't purge the recycle bin.