How to use the 3g hotspot app for free
I looked and looked and didnt find this anywhere except for eclair and just got done doing mine a little bit ago as the steps are different now.
You used to be able to select dial up mode in wireless settings but now if you have the new froyo leak. Now you dial **usbui and change usb mode to modem. Plug in to pc fire up qpst add port once you see phone select start clients/service programming. next click read from phone, password should be typed in already as 000000. scroll over to m.ip and select the active profile, should be profile 0 and change tethered nai to [email protected] the phone will reboot and your good to go start tethering with apmode. Some may choose to reenter the usb modem settings and change it back to pda(the first step) but i do not see it as neccessary. If this has been posted by someone else already feel free to delete and if in wrong catagory feel free to move.
Just remember these steps are for FROYO leak anly not for eclair users although they may work for that also just dont have an eclair phone to test on.
I have done this for a long time and never encoured any charges although i am not liable for any problems you may come across, ive never had any. As long as your not seeing the verizon webpage when you access web via your phone then your set.
Any questions feel free to ask but i may just tell you to google it.
There was a reason you didn't find threads on it.
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adrynalyne said:
There was a reason you didn't find threads on it.
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And that reason is?
dalrym05 said:
And that reason is?
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There is supposedly monitoring built into dl30 that allows verizon to track tethering
..that's why theres the warning in the original leak
nitsuj17 said:
There is supposedly monitoring built into dl30 that allows verizon to track tethering
..that's why theres the warning in the original leak
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I have read that also. Im calling verizon everyday and playing dumb and making sure im not being charged additional and so far nothing has been added to my account. And i likehow its supposedly built in. Ill be the guinea pigand report back and keep everyone update one big bill wont bother me
Running the hack on 2.1, 3g drops like crazy as soon as i turn on hotspot, any suggestions?
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dalrym05 said:
I have read that also. Im calling verizon everyday and playing dumb and making sure im not being charged additional and so far nothing has been added to my account. And i likehow its supposedly built in. Ill be the guinea pigand report back and keep everyone update one big bill wont bother me
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How is this for supposedly?
http://db.tt/avrxUI9
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adrynalyne said:
How is this for supposedly?
http://db.tt/avrxUI9
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Why can't that file just be removed from the ROM? Would it cause the rom to just not work at all?
Forgive me for probably not using the correct terminology but does the mobile hotspot app handle tethering the same as say the wifi tether app? I just wonder if one sets off the flag to verizon where the other wouldn't.
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Tkun said:
Why can't that file just be removed from the ROM? Would it cause the rom to just not work at all?
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It will break wifi if you remove the module. It ties into dhd.ko, the wifi driver.
Play nice everybody
Just got off the phone with Verizon. Been using the 3g hotspots for several days now tethered more then a gig so and I called and just asked if I was being billed for the hotspots app and they said there is nothing on my account about it that I've never had it and I would never be charged for it unless I actually signed up by changing my plan. So I'm gonna keep using mine. If anything changes I will let everyone know but I personally believe it is safe to use. I think that moniters for when you hit the 5 gig mark on your data then they start to throttle it. But this is just my opinion. But I think its a good one.;-)
Not to mention I've been using it for a pretty long while on eclair before froyo.
In fact I'm tethering right now to my gtab.
I have a couple problems with that.
First, if you admitted it, your account was likely flagged.
Second, VZW reps change their stories each time you call.
The monitor wasn't in place on eclair.
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Does the same thing hold true if you wanted to use WiFi Tether for Root Users? Maybe this has already been answered, but I'm just looking for confirmation. TIA...
We don't know.
adrynalyne said:
I have a couple problems with that.
First, if you admitted it, your account was likely flagged.
Second, VZW reps change their stories each time you call.
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If it's any consolation, VZW doesn't have a flagging system, at least not one the frontline reps can access, so mentioning it on a call won't flag you. And the reason the stories change each time you call is because you might get a guy that's adept at what he does on the first call, then the next call you might get an outsourced moron from AFNI, and the next time get a person taking their first week of calls....
When you call, they are going to the features list, and looking for the feature called "Mobile Broadband Hotspot 2GB $20". Upon seeing it is not there, that is what they tell you.
What you NEED is a tech rep (like myself) to go into the back-side of the billing system or the switch, and check your records there. The switch will tell me if something is 'off' about your data, like if a rate limit has been added. The billing system will tell me if there are DUN (dial up networking) connections being reported. But, in all likelihood, the groups doing any kind of monitoring are **NOT** the folks taking your calls. They work in the switches or corporate, and their goings-on are a mystery to us that do take your calls. So, they could be minutely tracking each byte and I, as a tenured Tech rep, wouldn't have the foggiest idea what they were doing.
Just to share with you how 'in the loop' we in the call centers are kept, I had an engineer call me last week complaining that his test device couldn't authenticate phone calls. I asked for the number, and it pulls up a device listed as "Test Device 7". I asked for the make/model of the phone, and he tells me, "I can't tell you that, it's unreleased and classified". I then tell him, without even a brand, I can't create a new authentication key and give him steps to program it into the phone. He still wouldn't tell me anything, so I told him to seek help with the person that gave him the top secret phone and hope they can do my job too.
if the op wants to disregard the warnings and tether...then by all means tether...but theres a reason monitoring was put into froyo...and i cant imagine it was for our benefit...so meh
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How is this for supposedly?
http://db.tt/avrxUI9
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Is it possible to modify the file, this is way over my head but if the file points to a certain location to send the info, maybe we can modify that address and avoid been flagged by verizon...
like i said way over my head but what do you guys think (the ones that know bout this kinda stuff)?
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I have a couple problems with that.
First, if you admitted it, your account was likely flagged.
Second, VZW reps change their stories each time you call.
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I didnt admit it i told them a family member had my phone and when i got it back the hotspot app was on my homescreen and wasnt for sure what they did with it. Besides even if they do charge me which i doubt they will its only gonna be 30 bucks. I can handle that to let everyone else know what really happens. But its just like people worryjng about sending back rooted phones with changes for warrenty replacements. I just wipe my numbers out and send it rooted boot animation changed everything even a custom rom and theme one time. They dont pay attention to the phones. They get them plug them in and flash them to stock. Just mt two cents. When i recieve my feb bill ill let you know whether or not i get charged anythjng for tethering.
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Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
same problems on 2 different phones? I'm betting its user error... maybe you can install s8 but not restore any old data... start fresh... have you tried that? are you using titanium backup?
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Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
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Go somewhere with this bull......
Why do you trolls even come here? Honestly do you guys get paid for this or you have nothing else to do?
Seriously???
I would love to make money like this as well!
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Airpush detector from the market will show you which app(s) are placing ads in your notification bar.
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DKS1282 said:
Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
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Maybe you should try not installing malware from the Market?
I've never had any of the problems you claim, but ad spam in the notification bar sounds like a classic example of malware to me.
DKS1282 said:
Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
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go get an iphone or winmo if android isn't worth your time.
If you have Ads in your notification bar, you have something installed that's causing this. This is not the fault of android or your phone. You installed something which causes ads to appear and might even be causing all your other issues. Wipe it out, DONT install anything and test it out. Make sure it works the way it should without touching it.
Dont blame the phone or the Android OS for something that you did. As for the slow download speeds, after you wipe it out, run the speakeasy speedtest through your browser not the speedtest app. That app is not 100% accurate. If the speed is still slow, call AT&T because it might be an issue with the network in your area.
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same problems on 2 different phones? I'm betting its user error... maybe you can install s8 but not restore any old data... start fresh... have you tried that? are you using titanium backup?
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If he's restoring sys data then that's why you're getting fc's. Restore app. Without data.
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Send me your phone and ill see what's up ;-)
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craigbailey1986 said:
Go somewhere with this bull......
Why do you trolls even come here? Honestly do you guys get paid for this or you have nothing else to do?
Seriously???
I would love to make money like this as well!
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I didn't make any money I lost money. All I want is to enjoy my phone. You sir are a jerk andp i hope you die in a fire. People like you are unneeded in this world.
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go get an iphone or winmo if android isn't worth your time.
If you have Ads in your notification bar, you have something installed that's causing this. This is not the fault of android or your phone. You installed something which causes ads to appear and might even be causing all your other issues. Wipe it out, DONT install anything and test it out. Make sure it works the way it should without touching it.
Dont blame the phone or the Android OS for something that you did. As for the slow download speeds, after you wipe it out, run the speakeasy speedtest through your browser not the speedtest app. That app is not 100% accurate. If the speed is still slow, call AT&T because it might be an issue with the network in your area.
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Out of the box means nothing installed (new). Adds didn't start till I downloaded a couple apps. Sad the app store allows maleware
So since the phones don't work out of the box for me who should I blame? Bluetooth obivously shuts off randomly because I clicked the button wrong when turning it on right?
DKS1282 said:
I didn't make any money I lost money. All I want is to enjoy my phone. You sir are a jerk andp i hope you die in a fire. People like you are unneeded in this world.
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ROFL!! Although I agree with you, the post you are referring to was unnecessary.
I actually just switched from iOS to android myself, and considering I used to develop on iOS it was a pretty intense switch... I struggled mainly with the battery life of my phone. Notifications also caused a bit of a headache due to just how different they are.
Moral of the story, I stuck with it and actually like android more now. Given it's not as idiot proof as iOS was, but the things you can do in android (in terms of being able to do anything you want with your data and not having itunes) make it worth it.
Try flashing and rooting your phone, then remove all the apps you don't use. That fixed most of my battery problems for me, and the unnamed rom fixed the rest.
Artimus009 said:
Send me your phone and ill see what's up ;-)
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Send me your working one and ill send my broken one.
DKS1282 said:
I didn't make any money I lost money. All I want is to enjoy my phone. You sir are a jerk andp i hope you die in a fire. People like you are unneeded in this world.
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DK - Standard troubleshooting steps... Use the phone STOCK without ROOT and without any new apps for a few hours (at the very least)...
IF the phone still gives you these errors STOCK you can complain to AT&T about your issues because it is clearly the phone (HARDWARE) as ROOT cause of these issue.
HOWEVER...
If you're experiencing these issues either:
After restoring from previous backup
ROOTing the phone
Downloading apps from outside of Android Market
Then this is clearly a software issue.
I've been using my SGS2 for over 30 days STOCK non rooting and I've run into ZERO issues.
Please report BACK after you take the SGS2 to STOCK with no 3rd party apps installed...
DKS1282 said:
Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
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Factory reset and go back to stock, if you are still having issues then return it for a new device. I have not had a single force close, wifi issue, bluetooth droppage, nor widge malfuntion. If you are installing other roms it sounds like you are not following instructions. you could be also installing applications/widgets that have not been updated in awhile to support SGSII? Feel sorry for you having so many issues, but take it back for another and complain. Maybe they will upgrade you to a skyrocket or something else if that will make you happy?
No complaints on my SGS II other than it can't cook me dinner or replace my nagging spouse.
Why not list the apps you installed, or as other suggested bring it back to bone stock and do a factory reset.
Quick heads up here guys.. Everyone needs to straighten up and fly right.
OP - this post comes off trolling, but I believe you may have a problem, so I am leaving it for now. But you won't get much help without really explaining your problems...
others -if you think a post is a troll/spam, DO NOT REPLY. Flag it for review, and let me/others take care of it, that is why we are here. If something is surely spam, posting in the thread does not help..
This has gotta be a joke right? Do you actually think Samsung would release a phone that didn't work as you describe to the market? No...
Sorry i didnt burn yet......
DKS1282 said:
I didn't make any money I lost money. All I want is to enjoy my phone. You sir are a jerk andp i hope you die in a fire. People like you are unneeded in this world.
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Wow i should die in a fire..... But hey i dont expect much from the likes of you.... And check my post, all I do is go from forum to forum helping people with legitimized problems...
ALL your post are nothing but complaints and telling devs how their instruction were dumb since you couldnt understand them,lol.... O and lets not forget the one post about how you are about to go back to your Iphone. Sorry but a troll is a troll!
So i will take what you said and do what I do best.... Pray for you
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Wow i should die in a fire..... But hey i dont expect much from the likes of you.... And check my post, all I do is go from forum to forum helping people with legitimized problems...
ALL your post are nothing but complaints and telling devs how their instruction were dumb since you couldnt understand them,lol.... O and lets not forget the one post about how you are about to go back to your Iphone. Sorry but a troll is a troll!
So i will take what you said and do what I do best.... Pray for you
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Didn't Divine_Madcat just tell everyone this morning to NOT REPLY to him if you think he's trolling? Geez...
Allow me to explain things as straight forward as possible. Please note I am not going to attack nor will I insult you.. I am spelling out facts.
Android Market does not allow malware.. There are 3 types of applications. 1) Free Application offered for no cost, 2) Ad-enabled application free to the user but you have to deal with ads gets money to the developer, 3) Paid for application. You pay for it
Now with that said.. Lets look at what your installing, If you can list out all the applications on your phone this is done by
Go to Market
Click Menu
Click My Apps
Type in all the application names there in here.
That will better help us diagnose your problem. Without that we really can not help you as a novice user you may mistake "out of the box" with nothing done when you have downloaded 10 applications. That is not for me to say but for you to show us.
Next when your asking for help please make sure to be terse and to the point with your problems, adding in extra frustration for it only makes you seem "troll" like. I could see how the other user seen you as if you where promoting IPhone and bashing Android.. Make sure to keep your personal impressions to a minimum and that will help you out here.
And remember, 99% of all problems you will incur as a user with force close are usually the users fault. Now if your a developer.. Well yea.. You will be crashing a phone alot.
So get us that list and lets see if we can't make your phone experience as good as ours is..
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I swear I used the search button but didn't find a clear answer in any threads.
....and I'm not trying to start a debate about the morals of tethering without paying for a tethering plan.
I simply want to know if freezing and/or locking "TetheringManager" with an app like Titanium Backup or App Quarantine will allow you to tether (and this is the important part ) without being caught by your provider.
Thanks!
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*puts on flame retardant suit*
I swear I used the search button but didn't find a clear answer in any threads.
....and I'm not trying to start a debate about the morals of tethering without paying for a tethering plan.
I simply want to know if freezing and/or locking "TetheringManager" with an app like Titanium Backup or App Quarantine will allow you to tether (and this is the important part ) without being caught by your provider.
Thanks!
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Yes. You can tether for free by freezing it. I don't know if they can track it at all but I've done it a couple times and never heard anything from them or seen anything on my bill about it... just beware data usage.
As far as morals of it... There are no morals behind it, all it is, is using data. It is a feature that is built into the hardware, we pay the phone company for the data, we should be able to use it however we like.
I haven't done it but I've read people having mixed results. I have also read an AT&T employee mention that they "know more about our data usage than we think" so I'd say be careful with it. I've heard different browsers on your PC have a bit to do with it as well, probably avoid Safari.
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I don't think that that will work. A guy at the tech support for at&T explained to me that they can tell if your using the phone for tethering because your computer has a different ip and mac address then your phone. Their server receives a request from your tethered computer, they can see that that request did not come from your phone.
You could try it, they warn you by text and phone 3 times before they switch your data plan to a tethering one.
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Seems almost too easy.
People are fairly sure that browser useragent is one of the main triggers. Also, there are a lot of apps that are "obviously" coming from a PC.
If you tether another Android device (like a tablet), it seems like you'll be fine. I tether my Tab 10.1 all the time with no problems.
Using a encrypted VPN stops all chances of AT&T knowing a thing
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People are fairly sure that browser useragent is one of the main triggers. Also, there are a lot of apps that are "obviously" coming from a PC.
If you tether another Android device (like a tablet), it seems like you'll be fine. I tether my Tab 10.1 all the time with no problems.
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There's a thread about this in the infuse forums from forever ago. But yes, from my research, it seems that the useragent is what gets you busted. Be careful
Sent from my AT&T cellular device.
TTL is also a very big possibly of the detection method. All data goes through att proxy servers and is analyzed. Only way to make sure is to use a vpn. Around a year ago, a company in Europe said they could analyze all packets, regardless of encryption status.
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how would a vpn stop them from knowing?
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Seems almost too easy.
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Ha. I knew it seemed to easy. I think this is what we're looking for. Thanks guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378970
After reading up on this it would appear that there is no 100% sure way to tether without being caught. Various methods have been tried with varying results. I'm willing to bet that it's simply the amount of data you consume that determines if you get caught.
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After reading up on this it would appear that there is no 100% sure way to tether without being caught. Various methods have been tried with varying results. I'm willing to bet that it's simply the amount of data you consume that determines if you get caught.
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I'd imagine that's about rite. I've tethered for short periods and never had an issue. However i'm guessing if your usage suddenly jumps or looks strange, it throws a flag up and they look a bit deeper at that point. I'm guessing there's gotta be something that triggers the "deeper analysis" of your usage. I can't image they literally scan everything that comes through the network, just to see if someone's tethering without the correct plan, that would seem like a big waste of resources.
of course this is all just my speculation, I could very well be completely wrong.
Just pay for the tethering plan, like most of us do. There are genuine reasons data costs so much and is limited. I'm not going into that because I'm sure you can figure out the reasons.
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TTL is the main way they detect it. Coming from our phones it starts out as 64. If you are tethering to a windows machine the TTL will be 128. In other words, if ATT sees a value higher than 64, there is a good chance that that traffic is not originating from you phone. The safest way to tether is to use "Tether" by Koushik Dutta, the dev for ROM manager. It is not available in the market because att has blocked it,but you can grab it from clockworkmod.com. It essentially sets your phone up to be a proxy so att thinks the traffic is originating from your phone, thus having a TTL value lower than 64. To take thing even a step further....pay for a secure vpn provider. I use tigervpns in the market or play...I hate the new name! It cheap, fast and secure. Happy tethering!
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This is unbelievable to me. I finally update to ICS and now everytime I use wifi calling for more then 15 mins, the voice gets delayed. The person I talk to on the other end hears what I say 3 to 5 seconds after I say it into the phone. This has been going on for days now and also happens with a friends Amaze at his own place.
What in the world am I suppossed to do now , since its impossible to have a normal conversation with people.
Anyone else have this issue? I am about this sell this phone now. I am not rooted and stock so I cant revert back to GB
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This is unbelievable to me. I finally update to ICS and now everytime I use wifi calling for more then 15 mins, the voice gets delayed. The person I talk to on the other end hears what I say 3 to 5 seconds after I say it into the phone. This has been going on for days now and also happens with a friends Amaze at his own place.
What in the world am I suppossed to do now , since its impossible to have a normal conversation with people.
Anyone else have this issue? I am about this sell this phone now. I am not rooted and stock so I cant revert back to GB
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try this from the market >> Call Delay Patch << https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.byteworks.cdp&hl=en
now those few 3-5 sec is NOW FIXED
hit thanks if i helped
Jay_Rulen said:
try this from the market >> Call Delay Patch << https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.byteworks.cdp&hl=en
now those few 3-5 sec is NOW FIXED
hit thanks if i helped
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I read that app only works for when you pick up the phone and there is a delay. Ill give it a try though. It gets extremely annoying talking to someone and then they start talking thinking I am not talking and my 5 second delay cuts them off.
ITALIANNYC said:
I read that app only works for when you pick up the phone and there is a delay. Ill give it a try though. It gets extremely annoying talking to someone and then they start talking thinking I am not talking and my 5 second delay cuts them off.
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ya ik what you mean try it if it works your all set if it don't i'll look for something to help you out im just on www.xxxxda.com lmfao just waiting on new energy ics rom update i hope
Yep, an issue since the first ics leak and I have no clue how to fix it. Me and GG have been complaining about this for awhile
Yup... Known issue since the first leak... It gets worse as conversation goes on. I just said **** it and installed quick-sense and selected to remove WiFi calling. I can't believe tmo put the option in a device on gb, it didn't work, so they update to ics, and don't fix it? Smh fail
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Yup... Known issue since the first leak... It gets worse as conversation goes on. I just said **** it and installed quick-sense and selected to remove WiFi calling. I can't believe tmo put the option in a device on gb, it didn't work, so they update to ics, and don't fix it? Smh fail
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Word.
Anyways, I talked to the tech department about it and the girl knew everything about it.
She set me up with a service ticket and they would check things out, but we both dont think much of it.
Shes going to call me back in 3 days. She said that its not a device issue, that its an OS issue, which I already knew.
She said after the 3 days we will probably do the warranty exchange. She doesnt know if the replacement phones will have will ICS or GB though but if its GB, dont update to ICS because its a known wifi calling bug. That is if they even have the amaze to replace with. I dont mind waiting because I am curious what there going to say.
So you're going to exchange your phone because wifi calling doesn't work properly? A little extreme, no?
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So you're going to exchange your phone because wifi calling doesn't work properly? A little extreme, no?
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I dont get service in my apartment. I rely on it to make all my phone calls when I am home. Without it, its almost useless. Having a conversation where the person on the other end doesnt answer you for a few seconds cuz its delayed is pretty annoying. Not to mention when they start talking again because they think I havent answered, and then it cuts them off, and there is a WTF moment lol
Yeah this is annoying I've had people click on me because they think I'm playing with them or calling to mess with them.. Hopefully tmo fixes the issue soon
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ITALIANNYC said:
I dont get service in my apartment. I rely on it to make all my phone calls when I am home. Without it, its almost useless. Having a conversation where the person on the other end doesnt answer you for a few seconds cuz its delayed is pretty annoying. Not to mention when they start talking again because they think I havent answered, and then it cuts them off, and there is a WTF moment lol
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gotcha. have you asked about the signal booster they offer? are you s-off? why not just flash back to gb?
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gotcha. have you asked about the signal booster they offer? are you s-off? why not just flash back to gb?
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Yeah I just dont wanna go through the trouble of signal booster when Wifi calling is supposed to work just fine yano? The girl said alot of people have been calling with issues about the new update and there working with HTC to try and correct them.
I am running stock on my phone. I was thinking about messing with the phone but I dont like the idea of messing up the warranty when I use it a few times during the year
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The girl said alot of people have been calling with issues about the new update and there working with HTC to try and correct them.
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this is good news. guess this means we'll possibly be getting another leak soon...
Anyone ever factory reset the phone and see if the issue gets fixed at all?
Of course I told them I did it to avoid that nonsense, but now I am considering it. Just dont wanna lose all the work I put into with using facebook pictures for peoples faces when they call. Apps I can always re download
Whats even more annoying is I had the phone for 1 month and havent even begun to pay me 20 dollar a month for 20 months payments! So in the end if they send me another, Im paying for a refurb phone lol. Honestly thinking about when the GS3 comes out, selling my amaze, paying off what I owe with the money I get for it, then restarting a payment plan all over for the GS3. Yeah thats overthinking right there.
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Anyone ever factory reset the phone and see if the issue gets fixed at all?
Of course I told them I did it to avoid that nonsense, but now I am considering it. Just dont wanna lose all the work I put into with using facebook pictures for peoples faces when they call. Apps I can always re download
Also, I see that my lynksys router firmware is from 2008 and has an update. I wonder if updating the firmware mix help. Its just a firm believer when it comes to routers, if it aint broke, dont fix it lol
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Yes. I've reset and flashed new roms. It doesn't help. I also have a 4yr old linksys wireless n crap router though... And some ppl say WiFi calling works fine with them. I haven't tried on a netgear
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glacierguy said:
Yes. I've reset and flashed new roms. It doesn't help. I also have a 4yr old linksys wireless n crap router though... And some ppl say WiFi calling works fine with them. I haven't tried on a netgear
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I wonder if people dont realize the problem cause they dont talk on the phone much.
My wireless N linksys router is 4 years old also.
Also, I see that my lynksys router firmware is from 2008 and has an update. I wonder if updating the firmware might help. Its just a firm believer when it comes to routers, if it aint broke, dont fix it lol
its an ics bug. you could have the best router in the world and it will still lag
Yeah heres my own personal fix. Hang up the phone and call back every ten minutes
So in reality, rooting a phone only affects the manufacturer warranty? Something I will never and have never needed to use.
I have premium handset protection with T-Mobile. If I need to exchange through t-mobile or asurion, all I need to do is unroot it right?
Hmm Now I need to go learn how to do all this to get back to GB.
I'm not sure how long this has been going on but I was on a call to customer service last night trying to get the WatchESPN app running properly on my phone and the "tier 2" technician asked if it would be okay to take control of my phone. I've been in the IT field quite some time and I knew he was asking to remote into my phone (ala pcAnywhere.)
I gave him permission and quickly got a text message saying vdm (Verizon desktop manager?) was trying to connect. I'm rooted with Dubbsy's 4.2.2 GPE ROM and I was nervous about a Verizon rep snooping around my phone (warranty concern.) I'm not sure if it was the ROM or the fact that I was in a bad cell area, but he was never able to connect. We never did get the app to run properly either.
Just giving people a heads up about Verizon's (new???) capability; I've never had anyone ask me in over three years with the company. Careful rooted users, if they see you've rooted they may make a notation (with or without telling you) in your account and when you bring your phone in for service--it may get declined.
Pretty scary stuff. At least they can't get in unattended (we hope?)
I wonder which apk performs this. I'd like to freeze it.
asharad said:
I wonder which apk performs this. I'd like to freeze it.
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Verizon remote diagnostics...or something similiar to that. I have seen it a couple of times.
Aetherpal
It doesn't work in my builds because the only thing I keep from Verizon is their apns and service. They can keep the bloat and locked down updates. Especially their big brother program...
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It's been around since about the second release for the S3. Nothing new.
asharad said:
I wonder which apk performs this. I'd like to freeze it.
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Verizon remote diagnostics...or something similiar to that. I have seen it a couple of times.
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magneticzero said:
Aetherpal
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I did some research on this and, apparently, it's been around for about 18 months and you're both right:
Verizon Remote Diagnostics
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Aetherpal can/does check for root access. There's two good things about this service. First, you can simply refuse the assistance from the customer support. Second, there's a terms of service you have to accept even if you gave permission for them to remote desktop. You can reject the ToS. I haven't had a TW ROM installed on my phone for a long time, so maybe someone else can post a screen of which .apk(s) they can freeze in TiBu.
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It doesn't work in my builds because the only thing I keep from Verizon is their apns and service. They can keep the bloat and locked down updates. Especially their big brother program...
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+1
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I did some research on this and, apparently, it's been around for about 18 months and you're both right:
I haven't had a TW ROM installed on my phone for a long time, so maybe someone else can post a screen of which .apk(s) they can freeze in TiBu.
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Verizon Remote Diagnostics shows up as com.Aetherpal.device on my stock phone...
i just removed that aetherpal apk from /system/app when i removed all that crappy bloat the day i got the phone
I'm not sure if this problem is isolated to me or if it affects everyone, so I thought I'd ask.
tl;dr: text messages don't persist on the phone, and in Google Messenger in particular, outgoing texts don't display as part of the conversation.
I use Google Messenger by default, and I noticed that none of the text messages I sent were appearing in the conversation history. Turns out, they weren't reaching the recipients either.
I switched to Google Hangouts, and all of the texts I received from (and sent to) other people before my upgrade were present, but any texts I received from others were gone.
I tried deleting and reinstalling Google Messenger, thinking maybe it was a version/cache thing, and again, any text I received before the upgrade was present, but none since the upgrade, including any I had received while using Google Hangouts.
Something definitely seems f%@#ed up here. Am I alone?
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I'm not sure if this problem is isolated to me or if it affects everyone, so I thought I'd ask.
tl;dr: text messages don't persist on the phone, and in Google Messenger in particular, outgoing texts don't display as part of the conversation.
I use Google Messenger by default, and I noticed that none of the text messages I sent were appearing in the conversation history. Turns out, they weren't reaching the recipients either.
I switched to Google Hangouts, and all of the texts I received from (and sent to) other people before my upgrade were present, but any texts I received from others were gone.
I tried deleting and reinstalling Google Messenger, thinking maybe it was a version/cache thing, and again, any text I received before the upgrade was present, but none since the upgrade, including any I had received while using Google Hangouts.
Something definitely seems f%@#ed up here. Am I alone?
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Nope, text not working here either, did much the same as you, cleared, deleted, still nothing.
1linuxfreak said:
Nope, text not working here either, did much the same as you, cleared, deleted, still nothing.
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Same here. Verizon's messaging app works though, and actually seems half decent.
Yep just got off phone with VZ support and that is the workaround (use Verizon Messages Plus) they are doling out as a fix to the problem, says tech will be getting in touch with Sony for fix and may be another small update for it.
Lots of reddit users are having the same issue. If you're up for it, it looks like a factory reset will fix the problem.
Had to do a frigging factory reset, but all works well now
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Lots of reddit users are having the same issue. If you're up for it, it looks like a factory reset will fix the problem.
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FDR sucks, wife will not be happy. I have a replacement phone to activate replacing the one I just updated, so will activate then do factory reset.
Bites.
Is anyone else having tissues access visual voicemail?
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I use Textra and that works great. Stock messaging app does not work unfortunately
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Is anyone else having tissues access visual voicemail?
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Only when they make me really sad [emoji22]
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Did a factory data reset on new phone after update, takes a long time to boot sets at check mark screen for several minutes, standard text does work now.
Factory reset does fix text
I haven't had many phones. I'm assuming this doesn't happen to often, cause this is crazy. What if only 10% of you having update issues needed your phone for work? How can companies stay in business doing this kind of thing?
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I haven't had many phones. I'm assuming this doesn't happen to often, cause this is crazy. What if only 10% of you having update issues needed your phone for work? How can companies stay in business doing this kind of thing?[/QUOTE
If it is a company supplied phone I would think that any modifications would be forbidden, any good IT department would be on top of any shananagans as such. I'm IT for the corporate office I work at (don't be impressed, I'm the office Alphageek and won the title by default.) and when corporate supplied the phones they maintained tight rein over the units. Now we are "bring your own device". As such if your phone is critical for your job and you bork it I would expect corporate to tell you to fix the problem ASAP even if it means buying another phone.
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That must have you hopping all over the place like a rabbit trying to fix everyone's issues. But I was speaking more about Verizon's consumer base relying upon their phones in general.
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...But I was speaking more about Verizon's consumer base relying upon their phones in general.
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My bad, I see your point now. For an official update this one has created a world of grief for many that installed it via the "official" route. Usually a factory reset is a last resort to many and apparently for this update it looks like a required step.
[EDIT] Just checked the official Verizon forums. People are struggling with the same problems that are being posted here. It looks like a couple have figured out a factory reset works and are trying to spread the word, there is very little Verizon help showing up.
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That must have you hopping all over the place like a rabbit trying to fix everyone's issues.
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A few years ago it did back when we were running a mix of name brand systems (Dell, Gateway and HP). I would say it occupied 30-50% of my time, since then we have standardized on Dells running Windows 7. That is a bulletproof combination in an office environment. I know everyone bad mouths Dells but since we with Dell/Win 7 my workload has dropped 90%.
1linuxfreak said:
FDR sucks, wife will not be happy. I have a replacement phone to activate replacing the one I just updated, so will activate then do factory reset.
Bites.
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I think the textra app also works if you would want to try that before resetting.
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I think the textra app also works if you would want to try that before resetting.
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Thanks, but already did the FDR, wasn't to bad, just time consuming. FDR does fix the problem though.
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I haven't had many phones. I'm assuming this doesn't happen to often, cause this is crazy. What if only 10% of you having update issues needed your phone for work? How can companies stay in business doing this kind of thing?[/QUOTE
If it is a company supplied phone I would think that any modifications would be forbidden, any good IT department would be on top of any shananagans as such. I'm IT for the corporate office I work at (don't be impressed, I'm the office Alphageek and won the title by default.) and when corporate supplied the phones they maintained tight rein over the units. Now we are "bring your own device". As such if your phone is critical for your job and you bork it I would expect corporate to tell you to fix the problem ASAP even if it means buying another phone.
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Do you realize that the text issue is completely unrelated to any "modification". This phone was "borked" by a VZ-pushed OTA. I had to do a factory reset last night, lost my corporate e-mail set up through Touchdown. I also missed communications previously, while I was unaware of the texting issue. Those texts are just "gone" now. This is very poor form on the part of VZ, not even checking that texting will continue to work after users upgrade.
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Komet1 said:
Do you realize that the text issue is completely unrelated to any "modification". This phone was "borked" by a VZ-pushed OTA. I had to do a factory reset last night, lost my corporate e-mail set up through Touchdown. I also missed communications previously, while I was unaware of the texting issue. Those texts are just "gone" now. This is very poor form on the part of VZ, not even checking that texting will continue to work after users upgrade.
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I wasn't implying you goofed up your phone, just following up on AddictedtoGlass's comments, sorry if it came across that I was.
Yeah, this update does seem to be causing more grief than usual. That may be keeping with the comments I stumbled across in Verizon's forums claiming that the code sent to Verizon by Sony wasn't "up to snuff" in Verizon's opinion and that is why Verizon sit on the update so long. Looks like they should have sit on it a little bit longer. I'm on 5.0.2 and my phone is pretty stable so I'm content to stay there until this is all straightened out, if ever.
I have been trying to find more info on Verizon's community forums but they have managed to make their forums so hard to navigate now that finding particular threads is almost impossible. I guess that is one way of controlling the flood of complaints.
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