So, given the recent Atrix unlock.... - Motorola Droid X2

Since the Atrix has a bootloader unlock process, and the Atrix and X2 platforms are somewhat similar (both being Tegra 2, both likely using the same NVidia bootloader), do folks think that the X2 may see some unlock progress soon? I was just about to bite the bullet and order a DINC2 today, but I'd prefer the dual core of the X2 since I'll need the phone to last me another 2 years. No need for 4G yet, so I want to stick to the best performance and battery life available in a 3G phone on Big Red.

Well... Verizon's tiered data doesn't start till July so you could see what turns up in the following weeks. I have my X2 rooted and can't wait for 2.3.4 to pop up.
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Zaf9670 said:
Well... Verizon's tiered data doesn't start till July so you could see what turns up in the following weeks. I have my X2 rooted and can't wait for 2.3.4 to pop up.
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My contract is up on July 24th, and if the rumors of existing customers being grandfathered are true that's not too much of a concern. I'm eligible for an early upgrade on my line and my OG Droid is ailing, so I had FINALLY picked a phone...until today. Is there a beta program from moto for the X2 like there is for the Atrix? That would give a better idea of what's in the pipeline...
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I'm wondering if the grandfathering is only if you don't sign a new two year. But I can say I'm happy with my X2. You can also root easily and freeze the bloat until the developer's take flight.
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Zaf9670 said:
I'm wondering if the grandfathering is only if you don't sign a new two year. But I can say I'm happy with my X2. You can also root easily and freeze the bloat until the developer's take flight.
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I have a philosophical argument at play that I neglected to mention. If Moto is going to continue to be developer friendly, I'll buy their device. If not, I'll go HTC and support a dev friendly company.
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Why posting here? This is not development at all. Comments and questions need to be posted in the general forum.
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[Q] 4th Eris gone bad - what should my next phone be?

I am on my 4th replacement Eris (trackball issues, and charging port issues). It's mint, and I take good care of it, so it's not that I am abusing it by any means, but my charging/usb port is on its way out. I've had to exchange 2 others because of the well known trackball issues.
So, Verizon has offered me early upgrade pricing on any phone of my choice! Question is, which one is closest to my Eris (size) and feel. When the Eris came out, I admit, I liked the way it looked, and felt compare to the Droid 1.
Of course, I rooted it, since there is no way I could stand being stuck on 2.1, with Sense. I really want the Nexus S, but I'm on Verizon, and not able to move (company phone). I would prefer the most "google" experience, but if it's an HTC phone with Sense, I can live. I'll probably just root it anyway. So, here are my requirements:
* FAST!! (After having an Eris for so long, I yearn for speed!!)
* Most Vanilla Google like
* "smaller" form factor like the Eris
* Good dev community for rooting (like the Eris)
Actually, now that I think of it, my requirement for being Vanilla, is not really a requirement, since I can always root it
Here are some of the phones I have thought about:
* DINC (but, should I go for something even faster, or wait?)
* Samsung Facinate
* Droid 2 Global (don't really like the form factor, but 1.2Ghz is nice!!)
I don't really think there is much choice. Although I am a diehard Mac OS X guy (Mostly because it's Unix), the iPhone just doesn't do it for me anymore. I like Android widgets, and the notifications too much, and the iPhone sucks at those (or doesn't have it)
Any chance of the Nexus S coming to Verizon? I like that the Nexus phones are always on the bleeding edge of Android releases, which is what I really want the most
So, what does everyone recommend? Wait? Get a new phone now? Replace the Eris for the 5th time?
Can you wait out for the vzw Thunderbolt?
Personally I would get another Eris and wait for the new phones to come out. BTW next time, post questions like this in the Q&A or General sections.
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J/K...I'd wait for the new LTE phones to come out before getting one. They just leaked that the LTE pricing will be the same 29.99 for unlimited.
dinc is too old now. almost at the end of its life and so is the droid x. Samsung has horrible support as you can see by kaos having to go over to their forums to help them get froyo and its near the end of its life. Most of the fast phones that verizon has have a EOL in march. The d2g is the same processor as the x and d2 but overclocked. i had a x for 29 days and hated it. and that thing ran all day at 1.35. If you can handle the 4.3" screen wait for the thunderbolt. My experience with the x and looking at the rest of verizons going ons has made me realize i am leaving them. I have determined that its time to move to a mobile carrier that has similar views that i do in how handsets should be ran. That is why i am switching to tmobile and getting the G2. Tmobile is owned by a german company and for some reason the Europeans seem to be more accepting of all things unix. They have a good relationship with google and they have released 4 vanilla pure android phones. no one else has released any that i can think of.
I would get the DINC but only if you can without having to use your upgrade.
Currently on my 7th one, nd verizon has yet to offer me this. Just get the iphone, much more reliable
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I'm still on my first, but I'm saving my upgrade for the Droid Bionic. And how do you go through 4-7 Eris's?!?
lesismore1 said:
I'm still on my first, but I'm saving my upgrade for the Droid Bionic. And how do you go through 4-7 Eris's?!?
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track ball going out, screen unresponsive, phone restarting randomly... i'm about to be on my third.
The build quality was very uneven on the Eris. Most of the ones people are getting now have already failed in the past and will fail again. If you're on your first one like I am (over 12 months now) count yourself lucky and just ride it out. Unless things change I'll be changing carriers after this contract is up as it is anyway.
Do the verizon trade in credit thing. Eris is worth 132 to verizon. Then buy some used phone online (I recently got a mint droid for 130, I'm pleasantly surprised by how much faster it is over the eris and has a great dev community and super easy to root and is still supported by verizon. For now) and wait till the thunderbolt, bionic, x 2, droid 3, or the Inc 2 comes out and get that and use your promo pricing
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Do the verizon trade in credit thing. Eris is worth 132 to verizon.
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not anymore, they changed it today to 32
neederishelp said:
not anymore, they changed it today to 32
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That must be because of the iPhone? $100 drop is steep!
Get the Thunderbolt
neederishelp said:
not anymore, they changed it today to 32
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Dangg. Whew I'm glad I did it last week haha.
Replace it with another Eris; then wait for the Thunderbolt (SVDO) or the Droid Bonic - or jump ship like me and just get an iPhone. *shrug* /2c
I only read your first post and haven't read anyone else's answers. IMHO, Either go for the Incredible or wait for the next HTC Android phone on Verizon, the Incredible's successor, whatever it will be. Shouldn't be too much longer, but I understand it's hard to be patient.
theblorg said:
currently on my 7th one, nd verizon has yet to offer me this. Just get the iphone, much more reliable
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boooooooo!!!!!!!!! -8974624
im keeping my eye on the bionic myself. wait it out just a little longer.

Verizon store visit yesterday

I went into Verizon to get a replacement x2 heading my way and the employee had said and I quote....you should get another X2 for your replacement...when a phone is on its way out they save several thousand for replacements. Straight from Verizon...our model which is not even a year old is going the way of the dinosaur. Future updates.....I wouldn't count on it. That's my take on what the Verizon employee said
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Sad, but not surprising.
Thats something I think we just have to get used to. With Android phones, so many are released every year that it doesnt take long for a brand new phone to become "outdated." You buy a brand new phone and 10 more phones are released the next month. Its annoying. lol
Just like when I buy "the latest and greatest". Two days later outdated rofl
Hy motcher41,
Not good not good at all. I had heard ICS possibly sometime early 2012. Got this Info from new Moto Forum Site today.
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A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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Hy motcher41,
Not good not good at all. I had heard ICS possibly sometime early 2012. Got this Info from new Moto Forum Site today.
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A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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You do know none of those are our phone right so we aren't getting ics
You do also realize if we ever did get official ics it would super bloat infested and blur packed just like our gingerbread.
I wonder if an x2 will even show up...probably be a DROID 3 or something
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Hy motcher41,
Yea I know that's why I put Quote.
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Hy motcher41,
Yea I know that's why I put Quote.
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Got ya.
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ImgBurn said:
Hy motcher41,
Not good not good at all. I had heard ICS possibly sometime early 2012. Got this Info from new Moto Forum Site today.
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A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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I would think that with both LG and Samsung talking about updating phones that are up to 1.5 yrs old that Moto would do the same, just to keep in the game. Of course, Verizon has the ball in their court at the moment but they could lose a lot of Moto customers who want ICS on their phones.
The Droid X² is an amazing phone!!!
I find thatUSERS think phones like these are outdated because they don't have a front facing camera.............
By no means is the Droid X² perfect,but outdated it is NOT.
I just don't understand how one of the first dual-core phone came with only 512mb of ram...
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I would think that with both LG and Samsung talking about updating phones that are up to 1.5 yrs old that Moto would do the same, just to keep in the game. Of course, Verizon has the ball in their court at the moment but they could lose a lot of Moto customers who want ICS on their phones.
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Not for a couple years. Not many people are going to pay the early termination fee just to have ics. Where would you go for this many DROID phones to choose from? Att? Sprint? Sprint has crappy service if you don't live in a metro area or live on a major interstate I have found. Att is starting to get droids but will always be an iphone first carrier if you ask me. All the best droids will always be on the red asses network
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i dont think many users (like myself with unlimited data) would cancel their plans just to get a new phone AND tiered data.
i do however feel like many users will end up begging away for some early EARLY upgrade love.
which may also end up having verizon change some of their "rules" and stipulations in order for us to be eligible for an upgrade .
i wouldnt mind payin an extra say $50 on top of the "new service agreement" price in order to end up with a nice new nexus or rezound or razr etc....
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i dont think many users (like myself with unlimited data) would cancel their plans just to get a new phone AND tiered data.
i do however feel like many users will end up begging away for some early EARLY upgrade love.
which may also end up having verizon change some of their "rules" and stipulations in order for us to be eligible for an upgrade .
i wouldnt mind payin an extra say $50 on top of the "new service agreement" price in order to end up with a nice new nexus or rezound or razr etc....
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+1 for unlimited data I found Pandora about halfway through my billing cycle and now I am at 9gb of data and if I had better service at home I guarentee netflix would be streaming alot. I would say 60gb without teathering would be about what Id be at a month if not more.
It would be nice to see ICS on the x2, but it could go either way at the moment.
But at least my ROM will be back in development next week, giving you one more option to choose from.
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motcher, look into "Jango" in the Market if you don't have the paid version of Pandora.
It's the exact same principle as Pandora....but no ads or limitations on song changes.

It's about time we heard from Motorola about ICS

I believe that the 6 week deadline from the official release of ICS source code is nearing up. So, if Motorola is true to its word, we should hear soon about its plans about ICS. And I sure hope those plans include the X2... What is your take on this (I know this question was asked a million times before, but the charm of asking it for the million and oneth time is just something different! )
Come on Moto! Don't disappoint me!
I believe the source is out already. Also IMO we wont ever see official ICS
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I believe the source is out already. Also IMO we wont ever see official ICS
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I meant the 6 week deadline that Motorola said they need from the time the source is out to let us know what phones are getting upgraded.
And it will be really unfair for Motorola to not release ICS on this phone that is not even an year old when Samsung and LG are promising that they will upgrade at least all the phones released in 2011 and even more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414221
This post was saying someone recently looked it up. So far it's all the newest ones (ie. Bionic, Raze) and they'll "update" us later on the others they may add.
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I meant the 6 week deadline that Motorola said they need from the time the source is out to let us know what phones are getting upgraded.
And it will be really unfair for Motorola to not release ICS on this phone that is not even an year old when Samsung and LG are promising that they will upgrade at least all the phones released in 2011 and even more.
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When I was at Verizon on Monday the rep said our phone was a model on its way out. I personally think with moto rolling new phones and tablets out like crazy the X2 will be left behind.
Not to "Rock the Boat" but here is my views....
uhh hmm....
...We have a Droid x2 which was released May 26th 2011(if memory serves well). The device has been released for 7 months; halfway to a YEAR OLD! Now, with that said, I personally think that we WILL receive android 4.0. Due to the recent release of the Milestone x2, why would motorola release the device instead of pushing a different Milestone device? It currently OFFICIALLY supports 2.3.6 firmware and it was only released less than a month ago. So I think our chances are good to get it. Maybe not as soon as other devices, but EVENTUALLY we should get the release.
Call it false hopes or whatever may be, fact is MOTOROLA is a business. Why release a mirrored device(Milestone x2) if only to give 2 more updates? Along with the fact of hurting their image as a company with a dead device?
Next to this, I personally don't care!!! lol I personally think the x2 is a great device once you ROM it to whichever you want or at least debloat the stock. You don't even "need" the Init scripts if you are a casual user to keep the phone up to speed as of the 2.3.5 update for the Dx2. Once we got the 2.3.5 leak, I ran stock on my main phone for like a month as I progressed my ROM to that firmware. We as the x2 community are getting more development done now than we have in the past; regardless of what others think. Yes, the development seems slow, but how many devs do you see working on this device?
This isn't an argument about mods or ROMs, but we have some nice devs working on this phone. Next to that, "who needs ICS?" I imagine it will be faster, smoother, cooler than GB. But after 2 months have passed, users will start to complain that JellyBean(<<<<Thats the 5.0 or w/e firmware) isn't coming quick enough.
In the end, we are "stuck" with this phone regardless of leaks, mods, or updates. Enjoy what you have and hopefully someone will come along and give us what we want.
-Peperm1nt
I could care less if we ever get ics. Some people always want the next big thing which always has issues when first releases.
As for the milestone x2 sprint just dropped the lg optimus s and straight talk picked it up as the lg optimus precedent. Same phone. Smaller carriers always get devices or a version of the later after they are on the way out the big boys lineup. Milestone x2 are probably what Verizon didn't want from moto when the decided to drop the line. Its not really up to moto what updates we get its more up to Verizon to give it the ok. If the store I went to is correct and Verizon is dropping the device Verizon wont push anymore updates our way. Just saying
(This is just my opinion)
Im perfectly happy with the x2 and I am thankful for the devs we have. I donate when I can afford it and hope even though some of them have other devices will continue to help the x2 with smoother and smoother gb roms.
Thanks!
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+1 to motcher
I'm not good, but learning. The other devs are doing good with the device and I honestly think we have nothing to complain about. If you want ics, go elsewhere or port it over. When we get 2nd init FULLY working, I plan on trying to do it myself.
But honestly, we don't need it....just saying.
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+1 to motcher
I'm not good, but learning. The other devs are doing good with the device and I honestly think we have nothing to complain about. If you want ics, go elsewhere or port it over. When we get 2nd init FULLY working, I plan on trying to do it myself.
But honestly, we don't need it....just saying.
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Im no dev either but past experience on other devices. With a new kernel from moto to have it ramped up or an unlocked bootloader I think ics would not be quick. It would be laggy and severely lower performance. If you wanna port it I think best you'll get to run good as a lite version of ics. Droid eris has gb but its not complete. Devs had to remove parts to make it runnable since the device specs were just not made for it. Kinda like our 512mb of ram....bonehead move by moto.
Hell I have windows 7 on my netbook which was designed for xp....same deal as ics on a phone made to run gb really well. It might run but its not gonna be awesome just like 7 on my netbook. In my opinion.
I just hope mastafunk and the crew have success in get cm running. That's our future on this phone.
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Motorola wont officially update DX2 to ICS, there will probably be a leaked version (which will be awesome for the devs), but they wont update it to ICS due to "inadequate hardware." That statement isn't necessarily false either. While AOSP ICS wont. Have any problem running on only 512mb of RAM, what wont run on 512mb of RAM is AOSP ICS and MOTOBLOAT
So the d3 wont receive ICS? I think its more than enough to run ICS at AOSP, and with BLUR, I'm sure it would suffice. Our phone runs really smooth with a stock 2.3.5 build. RAM has "no effect" on a linux kernel. The way it is designed you SHOULD only have 20mb or so of RAM available to get the "speed" of quickload of different apps. Apps always run in the background once they are loaded and when the foreground app calls for resources it "locks" apps out of RAM and freezes an image to memory for a load when the foreground app closes or enough space opens in the RAM and then resumes the process. The "lag" comes from too many apps calling for resources at a time, that is why you have redraws and that is also why Moto put the task manager app to kill processes after 2 minutes of idle.
When ever Motorola starts pushing the ICS update for the xoom is most likely when we would get the notice of our phone getting it or not only because the fact that the xoom is using the same hardware that the x2 is using but just a different kernel and ram, I am hoping for the update tho so we can finally us our dual core processor properly since gingerbread limits this
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They really need to unlock the boot loader. Considering HTC is unlocking the bootloaders on various phones under Verizon means that Motorola shouldn't be using the excuse "well, Verizon won't allow it". If they do, that's crap. Then why is HTC allowed to do it?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
I think if this happens, ICS will definitely be ported over easily.
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They really need to unlock the boot loader. Considering HTC is unlocking the bootloaders on various phones under Verizon means that Motorola shouldn't be using the excuse "well, Verizon won't allow it". If they do, that's crap. Then why is HTC allowed to do it?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
I think if this happens, ICS will definitely be ported over easily.
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It's not Moto that won't unlock it, it's Verizon not allowing them to. Moto is their baby, they want full control over it.
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It's not Moto that won't unlock it, it's Verizon not allowing them to. Moto is their baby, they want full control over it.
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Ibolski has a point I think the other manufacturers just told Verizon to go f*** themselves and unlocked them. After all isn't on the verge of being illegal to lock us out. After all there is nothing illegal about doing anything we want to our phones. They are in essence not allowing us full ownership of our paid for devices
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Too many false returns can be the Blame for that. Moto has to take responsibility for a broken device if Verizon were to allow that to happen.
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Too many false returns can be the Blame for that. Moto has to take responsibility for a broken device if Verizon were to allow that to happen.
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Im just saying the other companies don't seem to have an issue with it. Besides its near impossible even if you don't know what your doing to completely wreck a phone by flashing especially a moto. If your on a forum flashing roms then there is more then likely a sticky showing how to fix your phone easily with an sbf. If there is a lot of broken device returns blame moto for that....I know a lot of moto phones I have got in the past were released with blatant obvious bugs. I know other companies do this two. So its not just moto. Im sure more phones are returned for those reason then because the bootloader was unlocked
Look at it this way...is moto going to.get more or less returns cuz of a locked boot....id say more cuz people are gonna try to change it and with a locked boot its more difficult to do so.
Oh and every manufacturer not just moto has to take responsibility for the broken devices....so the others don't see an issue just a moto excuse
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never thought of it that way.
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Im just saying the other companies don't seem to have an issue with it. Besides its near impossible even if you don't know what your doing to completely wreck a phone by flashing especially a moto. If your on a forum flashing roms then there is more then likely a sticky showing how to fix your phone easily with an sbf. If there is a lot of broken device returns blame moto for that....I know a lot of moto phones I have got in the past were released with blatant obvious bugs. I know other companies do this two. So its not just moto. Im sure more phones are returned for those reason then because the bootloader was unlocked
Look at it this way...is moto going to.get more or less returns cuz of a locked boot....id say more cuz people are gonna try to change it and with a locked boot its more difficult to do so.
Oh and every manufacturer not just moto has to take responsibility for the broken devices....so the others don't see an issue just a moto excuse
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I recently signed a petition on Change.org about Verizon's 2$ charge. And Verizon backed off (oh no! Correlation != Causation!) . Hmm... so what about a similar petition addressing Verizon/Moto.. I know it is laughable, but majority of Verizon customers must be Moto customers as most high end Verizon devices are Moto's. Sooo... what say? Can't hurt.

Any other operating systems for dx2

Hey I was wondering if its possible to run ubuntu or any operating system other than android on the DROID x2
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Until the bootloader gets unlocked nope... But if and when the bootloader gets unlocked then development will hit it off real hard with Ports and so on
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Until the bootloader gets unlocked nope... But if and when the bootloader gets unlocked then development will hit it off real hard with Ports and so on
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I'm beginning to think this will never happen. I've emailed Motorola about this, pretty much calling them out on the so-called announcement months ago about them unlocking the bootloader. I've asked them why it's 2012 and why nothing has happened and no announcements have been made, and all I get back is that they care about ensuring the customers are protected from ruining their phones.
I replied back asking why haven't they sent out an updated statement as to why no bootloaders have been unlocked when they stated they would unlock them, and I haven't heard back from them yet on that one.
So, I think they pretty much reneged on that statement, so don't expect this to happen. The only way it can now (no one will be able to crack the key needed to decrypt the bootloader and kernel) is for some Moto developer to release an unlocked ROM image. That's how it happened on the Motorola Atrix, but it was an accident that the image was leaked and a developer found it by accident. The Cheesecake project has been watching all the updates that have been placed on an internal Motorola server, but lately, nothing new has come up, so it definitely appears that X2 internal development within Motorola has possibly come to a stop.
So, we are at the mercy of Motorola. I don't buy their explanation that it's Verizon because HTC was able to unlock their phones that are on Verizon, so the ball is back in Motorola's court.
Also, if you DO email Motorola about this, do NOT be nasty about it. You need to be civil but to the point. In my first email, I stated that the Droid X2 was my final Motorola device. In my response to their response, I thanked them for responding, but asked why they still haven't come out with a reason as to why they won't unlock the bootloaders after they announced they would. I also reiterated the fact that the X2 was my final Motorola device.
I'm hoping they change their minds, but my gut is telling me otherwise. Therefore, it's time to move on to a different device that has an unlocked bootloader. I also feel that the X2 has been orphaned by Motorola and a lot of developers because of Motorola's lack of support for this device. This makes me feel even more that ICS will not see the light of day on the X2. And the only way the developer community can put ICS on the X2 is if the bootloader and kernel are unlocked. If that doesn't happen, then ICS won't ever come to the X2.
+1.. I feel the same way. Im really hoping for the best & am really grateful for the devs we've had to help make this phone better, but it just seems that its hit its peak of potential without an unlocked bootloader. And with no unlocks in the foreseeable future from Moto, im thinking of moving on myself & making this my last Moto, plus Verizon isn't helping either with their little B.S. charges they keep trying to come up with... I know Sprints not the greatest, but they still have unlimited & the Galaxy S is getting ICS love, plus they'll be getting the Galaxy Nexus as well next month so decisions decisions lol But im grateful for all the great people in this forum & just wish Moto could get on the ball....sorry for the jabberjawwin...
I think I'd try to run winmo on this device if I could, I always wanted an HD2.
Android is just so fragmented, I still haven't found a way to get calendar notifcations to work properly.
You can run Ubuntu and BackTrack as an app. They are purchasable from the marketplace. It requires a few other installs, but it should do what you want.
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Hey Droid Eris owners

As a former Eris owner, I just wanted to stop by and say hi. This was my first Android and I loved it.
I'd also like to advise you guys when you do update your phones, HTC has the best rom communities in most cases. HTC phones typically get the most rom development. If you love the Eris community (which is one of the best in my opinion) , you may want to consider sticking with HTC. With some Androids, they have a very limited selection of roms. coming from an Eris, that may leave you disappointed.
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I went to the rezound, they have like 5 droid incredible devs and counting lol its great!
I think the LG Revolution only has 5 roms total if that and it's been out since last May. That's why I came back to let people know so they dont get something like that and regret it.
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I counted at least 10 different roms for rezound not countin the aosp, cm9 wip(s)
I am thinking about replacing my Eris after I cracked the screen when it fell out of my pocket during a traffic stop (no one got a ticket). I hate contracts and don't want to to pay big money (over 150) on a phone. So that leaves me in the used phone arena.
I would want a phone with lots of support from this type of group and one with 4g speed. So my question is what would yall recommend? Or do I just bite the bullet and be locked in with Verizon for another two years?
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I am thinking about replacing my Eris after I cracked the screen when it fell out of my pocket during a traffic stop (no one got a ticket). I hate contracts and don't want to to pay big money (over 150) on a phone. So that leaves me in the used phone arena.
I would want a phone with lots of support from this type of group and one with 4g speed. So my question is what would yall recommend? Or do I just bite the bullet and be locked in with Verizon for another two years?
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Go to Craigslist and look for an Android. I.see the thunderbolt always sselling for around $200 used on there (little more than the 150 you want, but no 2 year contract). That will also give you a phone with a good rom development community. Trust me, it has one of the best rom.development communities of the 4g phones on Verizon.
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Don't get.the LG.revolution. it only has one real rom. While it has an unlocked bootloader, there are phones out there.with locked bootloaders that have more roms developed for them.
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Thanks for the info!
Just sold my two Erises on CL, coudln't have made it this long without gingershedbread from workshed. I went with Evo, another family member went with Optimus. I must say I have a hard time recommending any LG phone. The optimus is speedy but almost no support for it at all though there is a CM7 version that has been ported, thank goodness for that. But I agree with what has been said about htc phones and forums, lots of support. Good luck!
I decided to go with the HTC Thunderbolt. Now to figure out which Rom to flash it with. The even bigger question is do I give my Eris to my daughter or do I keep it to play with?
It was really tough replacing my Eris! : )
Again thanks to all who have contributated to the development of the roms. It is greatly appreciated.
The thunderbolt has plenty of roms to play with. Let your daughter experience the wonders of android.
I hope I helped you choose a phone that you will love and not one you will kick yourself in the ass everyday over (like I did with the LG revolution). While I like Motorola because of the battery life and the quality of production, HTC is where it's at for roms. My love for Android began with the Eris and I hope I can help anyone who still has it, pick an upgrade that they will also love.
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I see your using the bionic. What is the rom situation like for that phone?
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It has good roms but small selection. I don't recommend it if you want to play with several different roms. If you want to stick to 1 or 2, its a good phone.
Many of the developers have moved on to the nexus. I suspect that development will pick up some when Motorola releases ICS. We have an alpha version coming along.
While it's a very good phone, it didn't live up to it's hype. It was released with some problems that it shouldn't have had after being delayed for as long as it was.
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The touchscreen was going bad in my Eris back in April. I guess it was losing it's sensitivity. I dealt with it for a few weeks but I was stuck in my contract until Nov. So I found a new digitizer online for $37 and a phone tear down and digitizer install video on youtube. For the tech savvy people like myself (I'm an engineer) it was the easiest and best way to get more life out of my Eris when I wasn't eligible for a phone upgrade and didn't want to pay full price for a new one.
Just another option for you.
Eris Upgrade
dragonrazorz said:
I went to the rezound, they have like 5 droid incredible devs and counting lol its great!
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I got the ReZound, also and I love it but not as much as my Eris which recently kicked the bucket I must return to fixing that Eris now!
Ta-ta for now my friends!
Got my Eris launch weekend in Nov 09. and had it rooted and running smooth which kept me from using my upgrade until I cracked my screen last month...so it was either a 99 asuriun deductible or a Rezound on sale for 99 online.. guess which choice I made?

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