I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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even if your phone shows ur not roaming it will on your bill and you will get kicked
what roaming? I thought sprint has free roaming?
This no longer the case?
Can you give me some info on how you changed to the verizon prl?
You can't hide that. Just like you can't hide your phone from 911. Verizon is aware of your number roaming. They will charge sprint for every minute and kilobyte you use. Since your are using verizon constantly, sprint will be charged a lot for your use. They will then, sooner rather than later, terminate your contract...and again soon. See it happen in these forums before.
Your brand new evo3d will then be without a service.
What do you expect? You can't root and bypass your way past everything. Sometimes you have to pay for stuff. Plus, sprint is the only unlimited data carrier left. If people continue to do as you are doing, and teether, etc...then that unlimited data may become limited.
OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
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OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
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The PRL the OP put into place makes his phone roam on verizon constantly. A PRL serves as a handshake between the phone and the towers. Standard PRL looks for sprint towers, and if none are present it looks for verizon. The OP seems to have installed a prl that looks for verizon towers first.
You may be right about the free roam agreement, but sprint still cancels people's service if they are abusing this. Just happened in the Evo forums. There may be a free roam agreement, but verizon won't tolerate sprint customers exclusively using their bandwidth if they are not paying for it. They will then tell sprint that so and so number needs to be cut. Then sprint will send you a letter saying your contract is to be terminated on so and so date due to excess roaming. So, theoretically, this could happen to someone who has sprint, but lives in a sprint dead zone where they have to use verizon all the time.
Do it for long enough and they will cancel your service.
Where we live is a Sprint dead zone. Occasionally we do pick up the distant Sprint tower and my service says "Sprint" but I'd say at least 75% of the time my phone is using a Verizon tower since I work at home. Never got a spanking. Of course, I guess if I changed my PRL and they noticed I'm on all sorts of different Verizon towers (even where there is good Sprint coverage), maybe then they'd raise an eyebrow? I wonder if their setup is sophisticated enough to detect that you use Verizon towers all over town as opposed to using one particular tower all the time just because you live in a fringe area. Interesting.
What we really need is not a new PRL: we need the ability to change the phone's preferences so it switches to Verizon's towers earlier. For example, switch to Verizon towers ANY time the Verizon signal is better... not just when the Sprint signal becomes so weak it drops out.
Mike
FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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Ya i got one coming myself
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FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
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Yup.. I've got one, but haven't activated it yet... It kind of sux that I have to use my in-home broadband bandwidth to get decent service from Sprint.
Another thing that sux is that when I'm out on the water (Chesapeake Bay), Verizon has solid service where Sprint's service is spotty. Sprint's PRL is also set to NOT roam on these Verizon towers, causing a battery drain like there's no tomorrow.
Looks, like I might have to start using a Verizon PRL,when going out fishing..
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I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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How are you switching PRLs? The ##PRL# EPST code doesn't seem to work for me.
Be careful with that Verizon PRL, after moths of using it, Sprint will call you and will cancel your account
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Roaming data is not unlimited. So, if you roam every once in a while and pull down your latest email or check a map, etc., you'll be fine. If you're always on roaming data and pull too much data, you will be dropped. I've heard different numbers for the limits, but there is one.
Whatever happened to the ability to force roaming? On older devices we used to be able to pick "Sprint Only" "Automatic" and "Roaming".
I would always do that when I was getting crap Sprint signal.
I switched them using qpst. I have about 7 or 8 different prls saved to my computer I switch to to see what works the best.
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I am currently using the 00001 PRL... which everyone seems to suggest is a bad idea. The area I live in is real **** for Sprint... Verizon rules the roost here. So, the question is, what am I risking by using this PRL?
According to sprint i have 800 roaming minutes, and 300MB of data. The minutes, I will never, ever touch. My last phone plan with T-Mo only had 700 minutes shared between my wife and I, and we never went over. In my home, I use wifi, so the only time I'd use data is if I'm out... though it is still possible I'd go over 300MB.
A lot of people seem to think Sprint will terminate your service if you roam to much. Do they charge you, or just give you the boot? I really wouldn't mind if Sprint booted me ETF-Free... I'd just switch to Verizon then. If they are going to give me a bunch of fees for roaming all the time though, this is a problem.
So.. has anyone here actually bumped heads with Sprint over this? What happened?
There's another thread here where some members complained because they got nasty grams from Sprint and a few were given notices they would be terminated in 30 days.
Another person ended up with a $700 phone bill because roaming doesn't count on things like mobile to mobile minutes and all.
I used it on the old evo last year and got a huge bill, as it wasnt covered under my $69 plan, but they let me switch to the $99 plan so I didnt have to pay
OK... thats what I needed to know. I don't mind getting canned, but I don't want a huge bill.
I have had the 00001 PRL installed for a day and data is so much faster. Tracking my usage at Sprint, I have used:
Sprint 3G data = 776,939kb
Sprint 3G roaming data = 51,466kb ( mostly from PRL 00001 usage)
I currently have unlimited usage on both. Without a doubt, I am strictly roaming on 3G data. Question is if Sprint will notify me of excessive roaming since I have unlimited usage on my contract.
**Note: It seems obvious that for some unforeseen reason, Sprint is purposely limiting our data speeds since a simple PRL file across the same 3G service towers is all that keeps us from 2mbps+ speeds. Data has been garbage since the first day on the EVO 3D; it is not a hardware issue but a carrier limitation...
I tried this PRL today and was wondering about getting charged as well. I would probably only need to use it a couple of times a month. What do you guys think, you feel that I should be fine?
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I tried this PRL today and was wondering about getting charged as well. I would probably only need to use it a couple of times a month. What do you guys think, you feel that I should be fine?
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A couple times a month is what i use it for.
Been doing it since it came out of the OG EVO.
No problems yet!
/knocks on wood
I have some questions about this:
1) what exactly does this PRL file accomplish in relation to the OTA PRL received (PRL 21081)?
2) If I have unlimited data and unlimited roaming (data and voice) will Sprint even care if I use this?
3) I go to 2 campuses for my college and 1 of them has poor service and there's a VZ tower right near by that I could use, would this PRL allow me to use this tower and get good service?
4) does this allow you to receive greater than 2MBit\sec on the Sprint PCS network?
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incarceration said:
I have some questions about this:
1) what exactly does this PRL file accomplish in relation to the OTA PRL received (PRL 21081)?
2) If I have unlimited data and unlimited roaming (data and voice) will Sprint even care if I use this?
3) I go to 2 campuses for my college and 1 of them has poor service and there's a VZ tower right near by that I could use, would this PRL allow me to use this tower and get good service?
4) does this allow you to receive greater than 2MBit\sec on the Sprint PCS network?
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1. Makes your phone only use vz towers.
2. If you use it too much, yes. (not sure the amount (sprint gets charged for us using vz towers))
3. Probably.
4. No.
Lol, thanks for the itemized and quick response.
For me, the difference between using Sprint's prl and the 0001 Verizon prl is .4mb/sec on Sprint's and 2.5mb/sec on Verizon's. Pretty big difference. Just sucks that you have to worry about getting a huge bill or kicked from Sprints network for using it to much.
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I tried this but it kept saying that it couldn't verify my account when placing a call.
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I tried this but it kept saying that it couldn't verify my account when placing a call.
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I have this same problem. I've done the chat for an HLR reset but it didn't work.
I got a contract termination letter in the mail from Sprint today saying I was using too much data while roaming. I have been in contact with them since day 3 about my poor coverage (-115db) at home and work (-105db 1x!). The airwave is backordered for 4 months, so oops.
Question is: I am new to Cincinnati. I need a carrier for 3 smartphones (one in Iowa) with 5gb per month on two of them and 10gb on the third. I would like to stay under $200 per month which cuts out At&t and Verizon (reason I left Big Red). T-Mobile jumps to mind, but the Iowa phone would be left roaming all the time. Cincinnati Bell is the same. Any ideas? And no, the Iowa phone can't use the T-Mobile wifi calling, no wifi
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I got a contract termination letter in the mail from Sprint today saying I was using too much data while roaming. I have been in contact with them since day 3 about my poor coverage (-115db) at home and work (-105db 1x!). The airwave is backordered for 4 months, so oops.
Question is: I am new to Cincinnati. I need a carrier for 3 smartphones (one in Iowa) with 5gb per month on two of them and 10gb on the third. I would like to stay under $200 per month which cuts out At&t and Verizon (reason I left Big Red). T-Mobile jumps to mind, but the Iowa phone would be left roaming all the time. Cincinnati Bell is the same. Any ideas? And no, the Iowa phone can't use the T-Mobile wifi calling, no wifi
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If Sprint terminate that suck. the second is t mobile cause they have unlimited data but they slow down your data if u use to much. the other two u going be paying a arm and a leg....... how much data do u use, cuz i use 35GB one mouth. im still good. do you have a contract on you phones??
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If Sprint terminate that suck. the second is t mobile cause they have unlimited data but they slow down your data if u use to much. the other two u going be paying a arm and a leg....... how much data do u use, cuz i use 35GB one mouth. im still good. do you have a contract on you phones??
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No, they canceled my early termination fees about a month ago due to my complaining. They also waive them when they cancel your contract for excessive roaming so I'm double good there.
I hear very mixed things about T-Mobile, but they do have cheap plans. Got to ask a rep about their roaming limits...
were you using prl 00001?
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No, they canceled my early termination fees about a month ago due to my complaining. They also waive them when they cancel your contract for excessive roaming so I'm double good there.
I hear very mixed things about T-Mobile, but they do have cheap plans. Got to ask a rep about their roaming limits...
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I would try tmobile the other 2 will cost you a lot money with the amount of data you use, or try to go craiglist and take over a unlimited data plan for ATT , I seen a few people on my area doing, and that's what I did with ky last Verizon line, I do miss LTE tho
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1. Like the other post say "Were you using prl 00001" or any other prl besides the default one?
2.Also what plan were you on and is unlimited data roaming included in your plan?
Just wondering b/c I use prl 00001 and have Sero Premium which have unlimited data and voice roaming. I use prl 00001 with every phone I get and have been doing it for over a year now. I never get any extra charges or letters from Sprint. Yes, I do use over 300mb a month. On avg I use about 1.2 gb a month
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No special PRLs, they were causing my phone to get the verizon "cannot authenticate your phone" messages. The towers at work are being upgraded and the towers for home are just crappy.
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I would try tmobile the other 2 will cost you a lot money with the amount of data you use, or try to go craiglist and take over a unlimited data plan for ATT , I seen a few people on my area doing, and that's what I did with ky last Verizon line, I do miss LTE tho
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Yeah, T-Mobile is the cheapest national left. Didn't know about taking over peoples data plans. Big Red told me that when I upgraded my Eris I would have to sign a new contract and my bill would shoot up, otherwise I never woulda dropped them.
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1. Like the other post say "Were you using prl 00001" or any other prl besides the default one?
2.Also what plan were you on and is unlimited data roaming included in your plan?
Just wondering b/c I use prl 00001 and have Sero Premium which have unlimited data and voice roaming. I use prl 00001 with every phone I get and have been doing it for over a year now. I never get any extra charges or letters from Sprint. Yes, I do use over 300mb a month. On avg I use about 1.2 gb a month
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Lucky
ianoob said:
No special PRLs, they were causing my phone to get the verizon "cannot authenticate your phone" messages. The towers at work are being upgraded and the towers for home are just crappy.
Yeah, T-Mobile is the cheapest national left. Didn't know about taking over peoples data plans. Big Red told me that when I upgraded my Eris I would have to sign a new contract and my bill would shoot up, otherwise I never woulda dropped them.
Lucky
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Verizon lied to you BTW Eris was nice LOL
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Verizon lied to you BTW Eris was nice LOL
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Loved that little phone lol. They lost a customer by telling me that, maybe they didn't want somebody who actually used their unlimited data to keep it... 8gb with my Eris probably would wind up as more with a phone that supported flash. No idea what I'd be using with the 3d since I never had a signal.
What about Boost (owned by sprint but just bought a new home)? Their website is vague, do they care if I roam?
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I would look into T-mobile. Im in Iowa. We have iWireless. its a tmobile affiliate. they get signal just about everywhere on the mississippi (east) side.
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I would look into T-mobile. Im in Iowa. We have iWireless. its a tmobile affiliate. they get signal just about everywhere on the mississippi (east) side.
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I lived in Iowa City until August, brother in law lives in Clinton and his is the phone staying there. Thanks for the reminder!
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Have you looked into US Cellular at all?
http://www.uscellular.com/coverage-map/coverage-indicator.html
I didn't know your ZIP code(s) so I couldn't check exact coverage.
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Have you looked into US Cellular at all?
http://www.uscellular.com/coverage-map/coverage-indicator.html
I didn't know your ZIP code(s) so I couldn't check exact coverage.
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Yeah, was the 1st I thought of, but they don't cover Cincinnati
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Looks like Best Buy has the Sensation for free. I'll pocket a $140 each giftcard for my 3D, or I could sell it to Gazelle for $170 or try e-bay?
Holy He!l, i'm in cincinnati too and WOW does sprint coverage SUCK BALLS. My phone is ALWAYS in roaming, switch back to sprint with 1bar, no bars, back to roaming. If i'm in the house, its always roaming. my evo 4g would hold at 1-2 bars, but the 3d is ALWAYS roaming. I had no idea i could get too-much-roaming-data. i did not change my prl, no verizon prl, no changes or tricks to it.
bummer man. now i'm all worried....
i know its not the new 3G one. im using that. I have my old samsung sprint airave 1x. iwould be willing to sell if the price is right. its like new. pm me if your interested.
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Holy He!l, i'm in cincinnati too and WOW does sprint coverage SUCK BALLS. My phone is ALWAYS in roaming, switch back to sprint with 1bar, no bars, back to roaming. If i'm in the house, its always roaming. my evo 4g would hold at 1-2 bars, but the 3d is ALWAYS roaming. I had no idea i could get too-much-roaming-data. i did not change my prl, no verizon prl, no changes or tricks to it.
bummer man. now i'm all worried....
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the fine print on the contract say's 300mb roaming data per month. if you're worried about it, download something like juice defender that will choke your data usage or set your data to wifi only whenever you're not on sprint's towers.
I just didn't care. been with sprint since june when the 3d came out. was in iowa then and they promised it would be better when i moved here. moved in august and it was worse lol. they agreed to waive my etf, i just been waiting for a deal elsewhere.
funny, they told me the same thing. i have been with sprint for 14 years, the last 10 years i was in KC and couldn't complain (except about clearwire) and they swore to me up and down cincinnati was actually better coverage, and when i got here, jesus its horrid. i guess there's a lot more "tower" sites here, but they won't listen to you about the elevation. i've called over 10 times, and there is just apparently no way to talk to anyone that has anything to do with getting messages to the actual network systems people. The problem here, cincinnati valley, is that this town is crazily hilly. strong signal down between the hills and at the hill tops but the 80% of the city that is actually ON a hill's slope gets zero signal, and its even worse on 4g. the highways are the only place with reliable service. Verizon has solid service everywhere, and t-mobile is the best national here. Cincinnati bell is amazing as they have a transmitter on every light post and telephone pole in both counties, but they have horrible roaming agreements and plans if you leave the city with any regularity.
All of us with sprint love it except for the actual coverage, which makes it embarrassing to try and show off sprints greatness. The biggest problem is Sprint doesn't seem to understand how elevation works with these 7 hills and mini-mountains and thinks its a flat city like the midwest, and just covers in downward cones from their cell transmitter sites. ATT also seems to have this problem.
In cincinnati, verizon is solid coverage, T-Mobile is awesome, better than verizon. And the stupid cinicnnati bell is the best. ATT and Sprint are retarded for not utilizing local knowledge and input with their deployment here. I'm as close to being fed up as I can without switching. I'm right on the line. now, not only am i upset and frustrated, but i'm worried about roaming data overages or termination. i just use my phone for tv, directv nfl, radio, hell, i use my phone for media more than my tv, just under 5gigs a month, which is the main reason i still don't seriously consider switching. thank god for wifi @work.
So, i'd recommend Tmobile for national, and i'm weary of cincinnati bell but maybe its ok for you. Verizon gets a lot of minor complaints where i work, and their thunderbird sucks compared to the evo 4g, but they have strong lte 4g here. stay away from AT&T.
good luck!!
----ps, anyone know how to reach actual network deployment department @ sprint??? its so easy to explain to them what the problem is and how to fix it. there's just no way to get the info to them
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funny, they told me the same thing. i have been with sprint for 14 years, the last 10 years i was in KC and couldn't complain (except about clearwire) and they swore to me up and down cincinnati was actually better coverage, and when i got here, jesus its horrid. i guess there's a lot more "tower" sites here, but they won't listen to you about the elevation. i've called over 10 times, and there is just apparently no way to talk to anyone that has anything to do with getting messages to the actual network systems people. The problem here, cincinnati valley, is that this town is crazily hilly. strong signal down between the hills and at the hill tops but the 80% of the city that is actually ON a hill's slope gets zero signal, and its even worse on 4g. the highways are the only place with reliable service. Verizon has solid service everywhere, and t-mobile is the best national here. Cincinnati bell is amazing as they have a transmitter on every light post and telephone pole in both counties, but they have horrible roaming agreements and plans if you leave the city with any regularity.
All of us with sprint love it except for the actual coverage, which makes it embarrassing to try and show off sprints greatness. The biggest problem is Sprint doesn't seem to understand how elevation works with these 7 hills and mini-mountains and thinks its a flat city like the midwest, and just covers in downward cones from their cell transmitter sites. ATT also seems to have this problem.
In cincinnati, verizon is solid coverage, T-Mobile is awesome, better than verizon. And the stupid cinicnnati bell is the best. ATT and Sprint are retarded for not utilizing local knowledge and input with their deployment here. I'm as close to being fed up as I can without switching. I'm right on the line. now, not only am i upset and frustrated, but i'm worried about roaming data overages or termination. i just use my phone for tv, directv nfl, radio, hell, i use my phone for media more than my tv, just under 5gigs a month, which is the main reason i still don't seriously consider switching. thank god for wifi @work.
So, i'd recommend Tmobile for national, and i'm weary of cincinnati bell but maybe its ok for you. Verizon gets a lot of minor complaints where i work, and their thunderbird sucks compared to the evo 4g, but they have strong lte 4g here. stay away from AT&T.
good luck!!
----ps, anyone know how to reach actual network deployment department @ sprint??? its so easy to explain to them what the problem is and how to fix it. there's just no way to get the info to them
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Thanks for the input, I was contemplating Cinci Bell but their customer service sucks and I will travel back to Iowa 4-5 times a year. That and the Sensation is way better than any phones they have LOL (especially at $99). Now trying to decide if I should wait another two weeks for the Amaze since I have 30 days.
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What all do I need to do to my phone to sell it?
So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Wow that is bs, its not your fault that they don't have signal in your area, I talked to them before moving telling them I wasn't going to have signal and was wondering if there was something they could do and they just said "there are no outages in your area" and I just got pissed cuz they obviously weren't listening to me and closed the convo. I really hope I don't get one of those cuz otherwise imma smack a hoe
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So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Unfortunately, your problem is not as uncommon as you would think. "Unlimited Roaming" basically means nothing except that you won't be charged for being off network. If Sprint feels that you're roaming too much, rather then charge you for roaming, they cancel your contract.....which is also in your terms of service. Have you tried asking them to send you an Air Rave to use while you're at home? That might help to get you off of roaming. Also, be sure to keep your PRL and radios up to date, and stay off of the Verizon PRL's which force you to roam virtually all of the time.
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I really hope I don't get one of those cuz otherwise imma smack a hoe
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LMFAO
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Unfortunately, your problem is not as uncommon as you would think. "Unlimited Roaming" basically means nothing except that you won't be charged for being off network. If Sprint feels that you're roaming too much, rather then charge you for roaming, they cancel your contract.....which is also in your terms of service. Have you tried asking them to send you an Air Rave to use while you're at home? That might help to get you off of roaming. Also, be sure to keep your PRL and radios up to date, and stay off of the Verizon PRL's which force you to roam virtually all of the time.
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@OP - What this guy says.
In area where i live, i have good 3g signal and 2bars of 4g, but not inside my house, only if ill step outside and its often rain in here and gettin cold so what i do is i open my window (my room is on 3rd floor) and put my phone on it, that way i get good 3g signal no roaming(which used to happen to me once a day) and sometimes it goes all the way to 4g...
you just need to walk around house and try to find good spot...lol
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In area where i live, i have good 3g signal and 2bars of 4g, but not inside my house, only if ill step outside and its often rain in here and gettin cold so what i do is i open my window (my room is on 3rd floor) and put my phone on it, that way i get good 3g signal no roaming(which used to happen to me once a day) and sometimes it goes all the way to 4g...
you just need to walk around house and try to find good spot...lol
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Talk to account services and ask for an air rave thats free and its going to boost ur signal inside ur house
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Tanwir20 said:
So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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You get a [previously 30 day] 14 day return policy for these devices.
If you weren't getting any reception and the coverage maps on the website show that you don't get good reception... why are you going with this carrier?
It's like setting yourself up just to have something to ***** about.
Roaming is also defined in your contract.
I see no where which stipulates it's "unlimited"
https://manage.sprintpcs.com/output/en_US/manage/MyPhoneandPlan/ChangePlans/popLegalTermsPrivacy.htm
They are actually quite clear about the rules:
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
Helps to read contracts and make informed choices before signing them.
Tanwir20 said:
So I got a letter from Sprint in the mail today saying that i used to much roaming but on my plan I have unlimited roaming so i called in and talked to a rep and she told me that when i roam it costs sprint money because i roam on other carriers towers ( which I really don't care about cuz if you tell me I have unlimited roaming I expect to have just that )and that there is really nothing I can do about it and that their gonna cancel my plan in a month if I don't stop roaming. And now since I live a an area with crappy sprint service I can barely use my phone. Has this hapened to anyone else or am I just the only one
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Approx. how much roaming data have you been using?
talon95 said:
Approx. how much roaming data have you been using?
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Kinda wanna know the same thing. Trying to figure out if I feel bad for you or of I should smack you silly for downloading videos while tethering on Verizon.
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mattykinsx said:
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
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This.
If you exceeded either 1 or 2, then you have no right to complain. I read my entire contract before I signed it. Just because you might not have, it doesn't exclude you from what you are legally bound to. Luckily Sprint is just canceling your service. Most other carriers would just charge you.
The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
talon95 said:
The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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Great reply. Has nothing to do with the thread and if you have been paying attention at all to what Sprint is in the process of doing to their network, you would restate your post.
talon95 said:
The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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Actually, finally a post that is to the point and it is very relevant to this thread! It doesn't sound like the OP is knowingly using roam control or a Verizon PRL. In that case, here we have a person who went to a Sprint store and they set up a phone and service for this customer. When you do that, the customer has a reasonable expectation of actually getting the service they signed up for! Sprint has your address when you sign up. They know where you live. So IMO, the onus is on Sprint for looking at the customer's address, finding that on a coverage map, and advising that they cannot properly serve this customer.
So yeah, one solution would certainly be for Sprint to develop their network so it isn't full of holes! The other is for them to just keep doing what they are doing: selling service to people they can't serve and then terminating them by sending a letter as if the customer is doing something wrong by roaming!
Mike
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Great reply. Has nothing to do with the thread and if you have been paying attention at all to what Sprint is in the process of doing to their network, you would restate your post.
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Actually, I even listened to the press conference. It has everything to do with this thread though. Even if people are deliberately roaming, that usually only happens when their service is very poor. I get horrible data speeds in the area that I work, even outside, despite Sprint's coverage map showing I should have good 3G coverage.
Hopefully they will fix things, but I'm just not very confident they will.
Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
talon95 said:
The real issue is Sprint needs to fix their junker network.
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mikeyxda said:
Actually, finally a post that is to the point and it is very relevant to this thread! It doesn't sound like the OP is knowingly using roam control or a Verizon PRL. In that case, here we have a person who went to a Sprint store and they set up a phone and service for this customer. When you do that, the customer has a reasonable expectation of actually getting the service they signed up for! Sprint has your address when you sign up. They know where you live. So IMO, the onus is on Sprint for looking at the customer's address, finding that on a coverage map, and advising that they cannot properly serve this customer.
So yeah, one solution would certainly be for Sprint to develop their network so it isn't full of holes! The other is for them to just keep doing what they are doing: selling service to people they can't serve and then terminating them by sending a letter as if the customer is doing something wrong by roaming!
Mike
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talon95 said:
Actually, I even listened to the press conference. It has everything to do with this thread though. Even if people are deliberately roaming, that usually only happens when their service is very poor. I get horrible data speeds in the area that I work, even outside, despite Sprint's coverage map showing I should have good 3G coverage.
Hopefully they will fix things, but I'm just not very confident they will.
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melvnx said:
Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
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No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
mattykinsx said:
No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
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melvnx said:
Sorry but this has happened to me too. I moved to Nebraska from Alabama, which I had great Sprint service there. But once I moved to Nebraska the service was not bad it just didn't even have 3g in my small town. I had and OG EVO, and the funny thing is I actually bought the phone in the same small Nebraska town at the Wal Mart, with no 3g and especially not 4g. Being the Android Pro that I think I am I figured out the PRL to use to use Verizon's Data network which IS 3g in the area. After about 4 months I got my letter in the mail and they told me I had a month to find a new carrier and that my service was being Terminated. I was pissed! But I understood because I basically the I was roaming the majority of the time on another carriers network so why not just go them was what they basically told me. So long story short, I got out of my contract which I had just started and went over to Verizon using a friends phone so I wouldn't have to sign a contract. Moved to Virginia a few months later where the Sprint coverage is waaaay better. And got the EVO 3d. Well I guess we now know how to get out of a contract with Sprint!
Hope my story helped somebody~!
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How could you be pissed. Sprint should be pissed because they lost money because you hacked your phone to only use Verizon towers which cost them money. How long was it after you bought your phone to when you moved? Did you know that you were moving before you bought your phone?
You, as a consumer, has a responsibility to make sure that the service you are buying works for you the way it should. There is no way for sprint to know exactly how good the coverage is for every house. There are places where you get four bars and then walk 50 feet and get 0-1 bar. When you purchased the phone and realized that you were roaming, you should then have returned it or contacted customer service for a solution. But by ignoring the problem and blaming Sprint, you lose all credibility.
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No, the real issue is...if a carrier doesn't have good coverage in YOUR area [or the area you're in most of the time] then you need to find a new carrier instead of abusing the system [and other CDMA networks] and then coming on forums and whining about that carrier for cutting you off.
Period.
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That would be fine if there were no ETF.
talon95 said:
That would be fine if there were no ETF.
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Believe it or not, that's exactly what the 14 [formerly 30] day return policy is for.
Yes, it's about making sure your phone is what you want but it's more importantly for making sure the service is worth it for you.
As someone else said, Sprint [and all other carriers] cannot tell you how the service is going to act specifically for you.
They don't know where you go, they don't know the setup of your house, any large structures in the area, different terrain, etc etc etc.
Two weeks is plenty of time to determine this, and there's NO ETF in those first two weeks.
OK this is a stupid question but I would like clarification from some of you in this forum. I am currently running CNA JB on my photon. Over the last few weeks I have used over 600KB of roaming data. When I got my bill it did not show this data because roaming on Verizon is 1X speed and Sprint tracks 3G on the bill. My question is will Sprint realize I am using all the roaming data and try and boot me or will it fly under the radar? Additionally I do not see a section for roaming minutes or texts. Are they tracking this as well?
I know many of you object to roaming PRL's however I am currently away from home for the military and do not have Sprint service here. It will get changed back when I get home in a few months, I just want to make sure I do not get booted before then. Thanks
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I'm curious about this too. I've always kept data roaming off because I didn't know if I'd get charged.
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I'm curious about this too. I've always kept data roaming off because I didn't know if I'd get charged.
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I can tell you for a fact that you will not get charged. I just pulled up my bills for the last 6 months and I have used roaming data every month. The concern with sprint is that they will not charge you, but if they think you are using to much they will cancel you so you can go to another carrier that has better service in your area. This saves them money because they pay Verizon for the data you use in roaming.
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I wish I knew this before I took a trip out to Wyoming but the answers are true, roaming isn't a problem. I called Sprint and asked them and they said it wasn't a problem with their Nationwide plans (i'm sure you have one). I turned on roaming for calls and data then turned off the call and data guards.
cheers,
Dan
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cianci162 said:
I wish I knew this before I took a trip out to Wyoming but the answers are true, roaming isn't a problem. I called Sprint and asked them and they said it wasn't a problem with their Nationwide plans (i'm sure you have one). I turned on roaming for calls and data then turned off the call and data guards.
cheers,
Dan
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Per sprint policy : Continus Roaming over a 90 Day period will constitute sprint into sending you a letter concearning your constant use off the network, they will give you a chance to return using the service or be canceled if continued. This only applies to users that live and use their phones off network (roaming) for a continus period of time ( living and working in a area that never had sprint coverage, bottom half of the contract explains this and states if you dont use their service or excessively use a roaming service it constitutes a breach in contact and can further cost a ETF ( early termination fee).. If you have DSL and are in a roaming area, call sprint and ask for a AIRRAVE - free femcell booster for sprint customers only that are in poor coverage or out of the service area ( this turns your dsl into a sprint signal and supports calls and net)
I have always roamed xD I use about as much roaming or sprint as I wish just whichever gets better service or faster Internet (usually sprint since its 3g and I needa change out my Prl to get my 3g work in on roaming I think) any good references to how to change your prl easily?
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Rill roaming is the only option I am aware of.. ie: most ROMs include the ril that makes your home only do roaming and choosing automatic will force you onto a roaming network only.. I don't believe we can access another networks 3g because its hidden from a non subscriber.. the question is where we could be if the sim card for international was able to be motofied into a roaming on gsm networks when service is unavalible while still CDMA and on home only.. never happening tho
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actually it is possible to roam and get 3g on sprint i used to do it all the time. look up a thread that has a pagplus prl for a sprint phone and that will yield the results that your looking for
Not sure .. I do believe any Prl that is roaming related to data will break regular data 3g until back on your carriers data Prl .. correct me if I'm wrong but the ril is closest to running a off network data 3g or equivalent without flashing a different prl each time unless you can flash over automatic and have force roam 3g..
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I think if you have the sprint business prl, like 111111 or something, you can get 3g while roaming. I believe joker has said that is what he uses
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please dont knock it till you have actually tried it thank you. im saying this as my personal experience
jay7264 said:
please dont knock it till you have actually tried it thank you. im saying this as my personal experience
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I wasn't knocking ya, bro. I was just clarifying the info :beer:
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jay7264 said:
actually it is possible to roam and get 3g on sprint i used to do it all the time. look up a thread that has a pagplus prl for a sprint phone and that will yield the results that your looking for
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Thanks... crazy week. I will try it as soon as I can and post the results. Thanks for the advice.
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If you have unlimited data on your plan you dont get charged for data while roaming
To update anyone interested I have used almost 4GB roaming an have still not received a nasty gram from Sprint. It is almost 95% data and minutes roaming. I will keep everyone posted of this changes.
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Are you able to get 3g speeds while roaming? I'm assuming so or you probably would have to have been downloading something huge this while time on a 1x network.
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Are you able to get 3g speeds while roaming? I'm assuming so or you probably would have to have been downloading something huge this while time on a 1x network.
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One would think, but no I am committed. Rocking the 1x baby!
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Sprint sent me a letter and gave me a few calls from their roaming department when I hit about 12 GB plus a few more of roaming data. I was mainly tethered to the internet from the laptop and uploading my music collection to play music. I have the 11115 prl to access 3g and every once in a while data would drop.
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was searching and this is the most relevant thread I could find to the subject.
I have a photon on 3.5 and live in a pretty rural area. I lose all reception halfway up my driveway lol.
also even in town where I work I get pretty poor reception at times.
My question is since I am on 3.5 is it possible to change the prl to force roaming on Verizon?
*coworkers that have Verizon get full signal while I sit at 2 bars or less*
I understand sprints roaming situation with cancelling but I don't think that will be an issue. heck if they cancel me without an ETF i'd probably be happy.
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was searching and this is the most relevant thread I could find to the subject.
I have a photon on 3.5 and live in a pretty rural area. I lose all reception halfway up my driveway lol.
also even in town where I work I get pretty poor reception at times.
My question is since I am on 3.5 is it possible to change the prl to force roaming on Verizon?
*coworkers that have Verizon get full signal while I sit at 2 bars or less*
I understand sprints roaming situation with cancelling but I don't think that will be an issue. heck if they cancel me without an ETF i'd probably be happy.
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Might as well unlock gsm on your photon that'll probably be your best bet
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Okay so, i moved recently and i get really spotty 3g and 4g services.
All is okay if i put my phone inside the window but when i move it it's like data drops when i try to use it.
I've considered changing the prl for my device, but i read about the termination fees. Is there anyone out here that uses the prl change with no problem? (or even roam only). i use 4g the most, but when i'm out ill use 3g for facebook checking or the occasional youtube.
Let me know
LSorry but anybody who changes their prl to another carrier's and roams off of it passed 300 mb a month is in jeopardy of service cancel. You would have to continuesly roam for them to threaten you. If your not a heavy data user then its no problem. You could always call sprint and ***** to them about how ****ty their service is out there and want to get a airwave tower(which is small mini cell tower) and tell them your thinking of switching to Verizon if they don't offer it.
johnnyboi1994 said:
Okay so, i moved recently and i get really spotty 3g and 4g services.
All is okay if i put my phone inside the window but when i move it it's like data drops when i try to use it.
I've considered changing the prl for my device, but i read about the termination fees. Is there anyone out here that uses the prl change with no problem? (or even roam only). i use 4g the most, but when i'm out ill use 3g for facebook checking or the occasional youtube.
Let me know
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I've personally been running the 12124 prl for a few months now. Its a sprint corporate prl so even if I am roaming I can get 3g service. There are others like 00002 that are Verizon prls and those will definitely get you kicked off sprint. If I were you I would suggest trying one of the other prls. 12119 up to 12124 are the most recent corporate ones that I've seen.
But even if sprint drops your service. For excessive roaming... I do not believe there is a termination fee I think they just tell you to hit the road.
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But even if sprint drops your service. For excessive roaming... I do not believe there is a termination fee I think they just tell you to hit the road.
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This is correct. Good way to get out of your contract early.