http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f
Looks like we're getting an early Thanksgiving present.
Hopefully we'll get a slightly less Macgyvered MIUI sometime soon, with more ROMs to follow.
Vid from QBKing77 explaining the significance of this event to the mortals...
ICS
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http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f
Looks like we're getting an early Thanksgiving present.
Hopefully we'll get a slightly less Macgyvered MIUI sometime soon, with more ROMs to follow.
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Here is the actual source for ICS: http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
jjesusfreak01 said:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f
Looks like we're getting an early Thanksgiving present.
Hopefully we'll get a slightly less Macgyvered MIUI sometime soon, with more ROMs to follow.
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thanks for the heads up, this is awesome!
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Here is the actual source for ICS: http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
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Please note that AOSP developers have asked that prospective downloaders wait for the greenlight to download ICS, as it hasn't entirely propogated through their system, and you may end up with a hodgepodge of files from ICS and Gingerbread if you download now.
Moving this to General as there is no development going on in this thread... just informing everyone about the release of 4.0.1
I'm very excited.... can't wait to sink my teeth into that sandwich!
I'm excited too but we are still going to have to wait for Samsung to release drivers....
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I'm excited too but we are still going to have to wait for Samsung to release drivers....
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Not if cm team gets to it first
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Source code release means ROMs are basically done, and we should all prep for installing them by running backups.
Remember last year how the GB ROMs for the captivate started flowing 48 hours after GB source dropped.
</sarcasm>
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I don't really get the sarcasm of ^^^ entirely, but yeah, does this mean we might be able to get ICS by the end of this year? I honestly thought that we had to wait for Samsung to code ICS for the international version first, of which devs would make ROMs out of
Atinm said it's likely a few months out
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chibixzero said:
Not if cm team gets to it first
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CM tends to be unable to go very far without the vendor-proprietary bits.
It's possible but EXTREMELY difficult. The CM team has said it'll probably be at least 4-5 months to integrate in general, that's not counting device-specific bringups.
The fastest route to ICS is likely going to be porting an I9100 release.
Entropy512 said:
CM tends to be unable to go very far without the vendor-proprietary bits.
It's possible but EXTREMELY difficult. The CM team has said it'll probably be at least 4-5 months to integrate in general, that's not counting device-specific bringups.
The fastest route to ICS is likely going to be porting an I9100 release.
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Thanks for the dose of reality. I hate getting all worked up anticipating something that wont be around (or at least stable) for several months. Now i can just put this in the back of my mind and be pleasantly surprised if it happens sooner.
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any of you guys has news whether or not the cyanogenMod team has plans for the note?
International just recently for ics port i believe. I think its going to take longer to get cm9 since ics is not even known of yet for o it note...we know we well get it just not sure when, but without real ixs release or singe real good deving, we might be Watts away fromcm9... I might be completely wrong but its where we stands "i"believe
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We don't even have CM7 yet, which is a much more realistic short term goal. CM9 is going to take a while, and doesn't happen overnight.
Plus it's only been 3 weeks.
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We don't even have CM7 yet, which is a much more realistic short term goal. CM9 is going to take a while, and doesn't happen overnight.
Plus it's only been 3 weeks.
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Actually I suspect if the Note was picked up as an official Cyanogen project I bet it would start with CM9 at this point. Multiple other projects CM7 is in maintenance mode, perhaps all projects? There's still a lot of checkins going on in the GB branch but (rightfully so IMO) most of the energy is going into CM9.
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Actually I suspect if the Note was picked up as an official Cyanogen project I bet it would start with CM9 at this point. Multiple other projects CM7 is in maintenance mode, perhaps all projects? There's still a lot of checkins going on in the GB branch but (rightfully so IMO) most of the energy is going into CM9.
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I think what Kromatrix just meant in general was cm7 is more realistic considering we haven't seen anything in terms of ICS
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is any dev working on new rom?
you have to be patient & bare with it. It's always slow in the beginning & it picks up later on. Tomorrow I'll be switching from a N7000 to i717 but it will be well worth it in the long run.
I heard Team Kang (AOKP) and Codename want to release a rom for us. Maybe in the next few weeks or in few months, that's what we don't know.
I just Rooted, put cwm, and overclocked thanks to da-g. Check out his posts in development forums... seems to be working really well!
All of his files are found here... http://m-s-j.net/dagnarf/
Before you go there check of this post...Overclocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504920
Rooting:+more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
Good luck!
have you checked out saurom? i just flashed my phone with it a couple days ago
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I heard Team Kang (AOKP) and Codename want to release a rom for us. Maybe in the next few weeks or in few months, that's what we don't know.
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Source?
And our problem is that we only have a couple of devs and relatively low interest in this device all together
It's only been a month... You can't ask for a source for something and then claim something equally unbelievable. You all need to calm down. It's been one freaking month.
If you're going to keep knocking the device, why are you still here?
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It's only been a month... You can't ask for a source for something and then claim something equally unbelievable. You all need to calm down. It's been one freaking month.
If you're going to keep knocking the device, why are you still here?
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I simply haven't heard anything about aokp for this device when not a single dev has mentioned anything about an ics build. although I'm sure we'll see something after the official ics release.
How am I knocking the device? I like my note. It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x. Mostly due to the release schedule.
I'm still here because this is still one of my hobbies
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I simply haven't heard anything about aokp for this device when not a single dev has mentioned anything about an ics build. although I'm sure we'll see something after the official ics release.
How am I knocking the device? I like my note. It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x. Mostly due to the release schedule.
I'm still here because this is still one of my hobbies
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You do like the device? Every post of yours I see is you ripping the device and all its problems, real or perceived.
sent from my iPhone killers killer, Samsung Galaxy Note.
If you think the atrix has had good development for its entire life, you're sorely mistaken. It took even longer for the atrix to get a proper rom compared to us.
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It's safe to say this won't have as wide of a dev adoption as the s2, Atrix, skyrocket, and one x.
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Just an FYI, I had an Atrix on day one and the same things were said about it a month after release (not much dev adoption, low interest in device, etc). So if the Atrix has such great adoption and dev support, then I think it's safe to say it's only a matter of time for this device, too.
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Just an FYI, I had an Atrix on day one and the same things were said about it a month after release (not much dev adoption, low interest in device, etc). So if the Atrix has such great adoption and dev support, then I think it's safe to say it's only a matter of time for this device, too.
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Yup, had Atrix on launch day, everyone said the same thing. Man.. that was a long road... I don't think we had a proper CWM until maybe..4-6 months in? Lol, it was such a volatile forum. Everyone hating everyone.
There's definitely a lot of development going on there now so we good. Not as crazy as other phones though, but pretty good.
The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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can't wait..
dsmitty166 said:
The collective has two roms coming out real soon
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I hope you are right!!!!
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I come from the HD2. When I got the phone, it was so hard to get that there were entire threads dedicated to when/where you got yours. Every store sold out the day the trucks ran, sometimes within minutes.
It took forever to get a decent version of Android to boot up, and for an entire year we were stuck with SD versions until they finally got a hacked-up bootloader that could get NAND installed.
Even today, that is one of the heaviest dev'd phones this forum has ever seen, running every version of Windows Mobile, Android and even several flavors of Linux. I don't think that this phone will come close to the activity seen there, but if it does I wouldn't expect to have this phone completely unlocked and running as many ROMs as the HD2 any time this year.
Many people keep saying, "It's only been a month!" and I can only agree with that. I would be disappointed but not surprised to see no significant developments on this phone in the next 4 months. As a matter of fact, I really expect to see an official ICS release before CM9 hits us.
But I've been wrong before...
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I hope you are right!!!!
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Of course I'm right, I'm testing them both right now
When you say "real soon" do u mean within the coming few days?
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When you say "real soon" do u mean within the coming few days?
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The last I knew, one of them "might" be coming out in the next few days, not sure on the other
TWO roms from the Collective?
Why TWO? What is so significant between them that requires TWO different versions? Unless one is for the international version and one for the ATT version (the only thing I can think of)...
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Steve Kondik 1:09 AM - Mobile - Public
CM9 on I717 is fraking sweet
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If nothing else this is all but official confirmation that there will be an official CM9 for the AT&T Note (albeit this was always likely) but it might also (but probably doesn't) hint that Cyanogen himself might help maintain it. (I bought my G2 for the specific reason that it was his daily driver at the time)
Edit: Looks like I was treed by 1 minute on this one
Yeah he has confirmed about cm9 for our note !!!!! He said no public realise is out yet but hold tight ....that's what he said on Google....I can't wait lol
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Yeah he has confirmed about cm9 for our note !!!!! He said no public realise is out yet but hold tight ....that's what he said on Google....I can't wait lol
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This was announced months ago on the cyanogenmod blog.
Order of operations (in true geek form, the pun was intended):
1) Exynos based systems would come first.
2) Next would be MSM86xx based systems...hence the skyrocket and our Note.
Old news is no news.
Thanks for the update, it's much appreciated to see that we're nearing a release. I'll be refreshing get.cm twice as hard now.
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This was announced months ago on the cyanogenmod blog.
Order of operations (in true geek form, the pun was intended):
1) Exynos based systems would come first.
2) Next would be MSM86xx based systems...hence the skyrocket and our Note.
Old news is no news.
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K smart ass its news to me since I can't be on here all the dam time thanks for the update OP
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Thanks for the news. I won't use them, but it is always great to see a device accepted by these guys.
I'm guessing Kondik cannot release until his company officially pushes source code for the kernel.
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I'm guessing Kondik cannot release until his company officially pushes source code for the kernel.
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I hope that's sarcasm
zonyl said:
I'm guessing Kondik cannot release until his company officially pushes source code for the kernel.
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Actually, he's not releasing it for other reasons... I was gonna share in another thread thread I hastily started. But since IM late to the party no need for my late update... Lmao
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tyler79durdan said:
Actually, he's not releasing it for other reasons... I was gonna share in another thread thread I hastily started. But since IM late to the party no need for my late update... Lmao
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Regardless of the reason, I'll bet the first taker $20, it won't appear on cm nightly network for download, until Samsung has the i717 ICS kernel for download.
I'd be happy to be wrong.
zonyl said:
Regardless of the reason, I'll bet the first taker $20, it won't appear on cm nightly network for download, until Samsung has the i717 ICS kernel for download.
I'd be happy to be wrong.
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My vibrant had nightlies without source. I could be wrong but the sky rocket is getting nightlies and they have no source yet either right?
Edit- from googling real quick seems they getting unofficial cm9 ported. -.-
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My vibrant had nightlies without source. I could be wrong but the sky rocket is getting nightlies and they have no source yet either right?
Edit- from googling real quick seems they getting unofficial cm9 ported. -.-
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They not waiting for the offical we wont have to wait that long
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So how far along is cm9 for our notes?
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So excited, I love CM9 on my i777
Looking forward to this, as every ICS rom out right now is nothing short of awful for lack of a good kernel.
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Looking forward to this, as every ICS rom out right now is nothing short of awful for lack of a good kernel.
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Awful how? I have tried two ICS roms and they bludgeoned GingerBread to death.
Performance is absolutely awful. I have been ready to return this thing a few times but I am trying to hold out until the kernel source is released to see if we can get any bump in performance. Scrolling is awful, period, on every rom I have tried. I am really hoping this isnt a snapdragon S3 issue, as were ****ed if so. Then the constant redraws, lag, app hangs, etc just make me want to switch back to WP7.
Have you tried the Unofficial rom? It is fast and clean and super stable.
It sounds to me like you have a bad Note. I had one and exchanged it. It took forever for screen transitions and the SPen was super laggy which made me originally wonder what Samsung was thinking. Until I went in for a different issue (the backlight bleed on the white notes) to swap it out with a black one.
Even the Hybrid is very fluid with all of its customizations.
yeah I ran TPC, unofficial ICS, and now dagr8s hybrid at 213 dpi. Tablet mode is awesome, but useless with all the lag. I have 3 home screens and maybe 7 widgets, and its painful to use at times. My Sensation 4g SMOKES this thing.
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Performance is absolutely awful. I have been ready to return this thing a few times but I am trying to hold out until the kernel source is released to see if we can get any bump in performance. Scrolling is awful, period, on every rom I have tried. I am really hoping this isnt a snapdragon S3 issue, as were ****ed if so. Then the constant redraws, lag, app hangs, etc just make me want to switch back to WP7.
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This is just one bad experiance.......the ics roms out right now are GOOD and smooth and fast. scrolling on my note is very smooth. you may have a bad note, or are just setting it up wrong. everyone has little tweaks they do that they think help the smoothness. so in the end what im trying to say it IS NOT THE ROMS......
So I've heard the Korean JB source code is coming out next week. Is that all we need to begin getting JB AOSP roms? Or are we waiting on U.S. source? Thanks!
That is all.
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I'm waiting on Key Lime Pie source code.
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I'm waiting on Key Lime Pie source code.
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Thought that came out last month?
Dejavu! They must have changed something in the Matrix!!
You saw the black cat twice too?!?!?
bleached45 said:
You saw the black cat twice too?!?!?
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I think I'm up to the 5th sighting. Lol
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TangoXray said:
I think I'm up to the 5th sighting. Lol
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Oh god... They broke something then.
We have ICS source and yet no cm9. I fail to see why everyone thinks jb source is going to open a magical doorway.
whiteguypl said:
We have ICS source and yet no cm9. I fail to see why everyone thinks jb source is going to open a magical doorway.
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Because the devs havent been trying to get CM9 that is what we have now. They want to get us the newest OS. Really all they need is certain parts of the source to make it happen. If you ask maybe you may get a CM9 rom from someone who has experience doing it. Just my two cents
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We have ICS source and yet no cm9. I fail to see why everyone thinks jb source is going to open a magical doorway.
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My understanding is that no dev wants to build CM9 for us because of the expectation that it will shortly become useless once JB source drops and we can have 10.1. Any JB based ROM is going to have a lot more longevity than an ICS ROM, so why put time and resources into ICS at this point?
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My understanding is that no dev wants to build CM9 for us because of the expectation that it will shortly become useless once JB source drops and we can have 10.1. Any JB based ROM is going to have a lot more longevity than an ICS ROM, so why put time and resources into ICS at this point?
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Great point indeed. I cant think of anyone who would be trying to make and ICS rom with Key Lime Pie around the corner.
orvon.freeman said:
Great point indeed. I cant think of anyone who would be trying to make and ICS rom with Key Lime Pie around the corner.
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I can tell you this, if someone had created an CM ICS ROM, everyone would be rocking it. At least 90% of us...
Yeah, I for one see no point to a cm9 rom at this point.
I gave it a shot, and I just ran into problems that I was not sure how I would go about fixing, so I just pretty much gave up. It will be much easier getting a CM rom out when we have everyone working together to fix the issues, especially including the more experienced developers.
It's a combo of no point if JB source is coming soon, and that the ICS source is a mess. Just because the source is out doesn't mean they can just magically type stuff and make it work. If it's terribly put together it's hard, like Samsung's KK4 source code for the Cappy.
All I was saying is I'm just saying. Lots of folks would rather have the CM options and theming and added options, that's all. It's not a complaint or accusation so much as an observation. My 2 cents, if you will.
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It's a combo of no point if JB source is coming soon, and that the ICS source is a mess. Just because the source is out doesn't mean they can just magically type stuff and make it work. If it's terribly put together it's hard, like Samsung's KK4 source code for the Cappy.
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Who says the JB source will be any less messy though?
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JasonJoel said:
Who says the JB source will be any less messy though?
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I just recently asked the same thing.
I hope we aren't let down.
I'm starting to wonder if they release messy sources as a loophole.
They released the required source, but it isn't in the slightest bit useful.
bleached45 said:
I just recently asked the same thing.
I hope we aren't let down.
I'm starting to wonder if they release messy sources as a loophole.
They released the required source, but it isn't in the slightest bit useful.
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loophole. More like sabatoge. Manufactures don't butcher the source becase they are dumb. If they put out solid source we could easily stay just as up to date as the n4. And if you did that you might not buy a new phone for a while. If you never get jb on your phone you will by the g2. The manufacturer has just as much to gain as the carrier
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loophole. More like sabatoge. Manufactures don't butcher the source becase they are dumb. If they put out solid source we could easily stay just as up to date as the n4. And if you did that you might not buy a new phone for a while. If you never get jb on your phone you will by the g2. The manufacturer has just as much to gain as the carrier
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I know I won't. Don't have the money to spend on phones off contract. $300 is the most ill pay for one
(Cross post from forum.cyanogenmod.com)
Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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Jamie you the man.
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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
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so what i am reading here is you have 6 posts. i understand that you cannot post in development yet, but that does not slow you from reading.
i am not a technical brainchild and lack the ability to understand some of the terminology, so you will have to give me a little leeway.
development may have appeared to have slowed, but take into consideration the age of our device and the rate manufacturers are producing devices. we may not ever get another official upgrade for our Note, but my phone has ran better in the last few months than previous 8 months. there are some brilliant folks out there working selflessly for us. you may not find much in the straight CM development department, but since release of 10.2/ 4.3 roms, it is much more stable than 4.2 ever was. it runs smooth and effortless with none of the random reboots which plagued 4.2.
now we have quickly bumped to the 4.4 development which is still in its infancy. give it time. there are 2 Alpha/Preview releases right now, with at least another in the works that i know of. my guess is someone will have a Beta or full release by the end of the week at the rate these guys go. cant hold me to it as i am just a recipient who benefits from their deeds. that's just my guess from what i see as far as their work pace.
so excuse me now, i have to put some Kit Kat 4.4 on my phone, which has only been approval to run official 4.1.2 JB.
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out, I will try your builds.
I will be grumpy user, I promise
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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as i said take the tour, take some roms for a test drive. i don't know what you consider your experience level is........
everything runs a bit different on everybodys phone. for example, the Carbon rom has lots of cool features, but it just doesn't seem to want to work on my phone. i just don't want you to label all roms on the basis of one. Hellybean runs great on my phone. there are some here that wont give a phone or rom time to settle in. they make so many tweaks and adjustments in a rapid amount of time, they don't know if there adjustments actually did anything.
so be patient......if its not compatible for your phone, you will probably know right away. if it works, give it some time. there are good and helpful people here. just try and help yourself first and read.
getting ready to slam some Kit Kat on my phone right now with Jaime's CM11 preview 4.
As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
crutzulee said:
As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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Mechapanda said:
You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Yeah I know
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Personally, I'm loving the AOSP feel of 4.4 in a way that I have never really cared for it in Android versions prior. The way Google now is integrated into the GEL is how I would use Nova Launcher to setup previous versions.
With it's super stability, I am really praying that you give us something akin to your Nexus or Evervolv roms...Hell if we can just get working TTS and Video camera on top of what you've given us with your alpha, I'm done...............
.......until my next phone.
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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What are you talking about? What strategy? What balance?
Devs are also users. Almost all of the devs work on the devices that they own. We may not have the quantity of devs for other devices, but we definitely have quality devs. I also have GTab 2, and LG Optimus and Galaxy S2 LTE, which I manage for my family. Some have very active devs, some don't, but they all have good devs.
I don't know what you mean by "enough attention from developers", but we are getting plenty from our devs even if we don't deserve them. Whatever we are getting beyond the official 4.1.2 is all gravy. Jamie's CM11 preview is running awesome, and I haven't tried Patch's 4.4 rom, but I expect the same.
What more are you asking for?