I am thinking of getting a Touchpad and have started doing my research into Android roms and the processes around it. However I am getting a bit confused as to the overall steps, what is available, and how it all works.
So far I have gathered that it will end up being a dual boot. I have seen some mentioning about ClockworkMod, but then I have also seen other posts that say it has issues of some kind.
I guess I need a bit of a basic overview. How does the recovery work? Are all Roms CM7/9 based? How are they installed?
And the biggie, is it worth it? I love the specs and the price (looking at 145 for the 32gb model). But it is unsupported hardware so the question of lifespan comes up in my mind.
Thanks
Ok, I found this thread that helped a bit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305891
I am assuming the process is the same for all CM versions. However it mentions ClockworkMod as well, yet does not seem to use it. Is it even needed or is everything managed via the SDK?
calash said:
Ok, I found this thread that helped a bit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305891
I am assuming the process is the same for all CM versions. However it mentions ClockworkMod as well, yet does not seem to use it. Is it even needed or is everything managed via the SDK?
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You may find some value in watching a few of my Touchpad videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/reverendkjr?feature=mhee
I explain a lot of the processes in a very easy to follow way.
That is a great tutorial! Thanks for pointing me to it.
It does clear up several questions for me. One thing I am curious about is if future updates after the first time are handled via ClockworkMod or do we have to use the computer to flash roms every time?
I still have to check out your other videos when I get home, they throttle Youtube at work . I know it is a silly question but what are your thoughts on the Touchpad in general? Is it worth the purchase?
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That is a great tutorial! Thanks for pointing me to it.
It does clear up several questions for me. One thing I am curious about is if future updates after the first time are handled via ClockworkMod or do we have to use the computer to flash roms every time?
I still have to check out your other videos when I get home, they throttle Youtube at work . I know it is a silly question but what are your thoughts on the Touchpad in general? Is it worth the purchase?
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The Touchpad is a wonderful piece of equipment. I would never have bought a tablet if I hadn't gotten this one so cheaply. Yes, future updates should be applied by ClockworkMod. I have a video on that as well. I think you will be convinced of it's awesomeness once you watch more of them. Be sure to subscribe so you get notified when I add more. I do a new video about once a week.
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And the biggie, is it worth it? I love the specs and the price (looking at 145 for the 32gb model). But it is unsupported hardware so the question of lifespan comes up in my mind.
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Where are you seeing the 32GB Touchpad for $145? Just curios.
Ron
bluedogtouchpad said:
Where are you seeing the 32GB Touchpad for $145? Just curios.
Ron
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Work. From what I can tell my company is selling off their stock at the same prices as the firesale. The 16gb are long gone but they have some 32gb still floating around. Thinking of getting one as a Christmas gift..to myself
Edit: That was before tax and shipping but still a great deal. Wife just payed for it as a Christmas gift. Cannot wait.
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Work. From what I can tell my company is selling off their stock at the same prices as the firesale. The 16gb are long gone but they have some 32gb still floating around. Thinking of getting one as a Christmas gift..to myself
Edit: That was before tax and shipping but still a great deal. Wife just payed for it as a Christmas gift. Cannot wait.
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Can you get anymore for that price? I have Pay-Pal....
Good price for sure
If you are able to fetch it off ebay or craiglist for the cheaper prices (under $200) then go get it! You won't be able to find a ~10 incher for under $250 which has reasonable specs and does not suck.
The touchpad over all in my opinion is not bad at all. Webos will be opensourced soon by HP which means that even more work will be done on this tablet. The only major gripe with WEBOS currently is that it does not have much apps due to not being very popular, but hopefully opensourcing webos will result in some more activity.
Then comes android, specifically CM7. There are two versions out, the normal Cyanogen android OS and a "Xronified" version, which is the same as cyanogen but has lots of tweaks to get the cyanogen version running better on your tablet. Simply poo, XRON is CM7 but lots of tweaks and additions to get android going nicely on your tablet. Both versions are "alpha 3" but very usable, especially the XRON version.
One gripe about all of this is that the tablet scene is not very mature, meaning that WEBOS has barely any apps but very functional OS, while CM7/xron has many apps (all android apps) but still buggy here and there. Nothing is so bad that it is unusable, just that you might run into a bug or problem here and there, but none of it is unfix-able without checking XDA more.
Oh yeah, you can overclock this sucker to 1.5 Ghz from the stock 1.2 Ghz (I think it is 1.2) and run it fully stable. Some even got it to 1.9 Ghz, all of which gives the tablet very noticeable speed boosts.
In my situation, webos did not want to update, so I had to work with a thing called webosdoctor, and from then on I had no problems getting webos to update, overclocking it, and installing android. I just got the touchpad yesterday night, and I was able to get webos fully updated, overclocked, and set up a homebrew environment on the tablet within an hour. After that I got android on the touchpad, which took me maybe an hour too, but most of that time was spent downloading the rom (Xron is 190 MB or so), waiting for android to install on the touchpad, and realizing I did not plug in the usb cable into the touchpad all the way. It was very very easy, and no problems for me at all!
I used this guide for getting started with everything:
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/293028-new-touchpad-heres-your-get-started-guide.html
And then this guide for getting android onto the touchpad:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305891 <-- CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321335 <-- xron
I first installed CM7 and then Xron, turns out you can just use the xron thread but I did CM7 and then Xron to make it easier for me.
Good luck with deciding to get a touchpad or not, if you do, it is rather fun!
It's worth getting the TP just to have fun flashing ROMs and keeping your hobbies up to date. Having gone through the flashing scenario with Dell x51v I found myself wanting more fun through custom ROMs than the regular Ipad stock crowd. I picked up the NI Adam and loved that too but to tell you the truth the TP rocks with android and this keeps me going in terms of keeping up to date with mobile hardware/software scene. If you can get one...get one, you won't regret it.
Thank you everybody for the good guidance. I saw the MIUI rom go up the other day as well so there are plenty of options.
I have been hacking phone since my old Kyocera 6035 so this type of stuff is just fun for me. This will be my first tablet, cannot wait. Shipping is due on the 19 but my wife wont let me have it until Xmas day. You can bet it will be booting Android before we go out to visit the family
A question on overclocking: I read the thread for overclocking in WebOS but I was not sure if this had any impact on the android side of things. I am very familiar with SetCPU, are the kernels we get with the roms setup to overclock in Android?
Just got mine. Have to wait for Christmas too. Ratts!!!!!
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A question on overclocking: I read the thread for overclocking in WebOS but I was not sure if this had any impact on the android side of things. I am very familiar with SetCPU, are the kernels we get with the roms setup to overclock in Android?
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Nope. The two OS's are completely independent. Get Antutu CPU Master (free) to OC in Android.
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I recall about a month and a half ago, all of the xda peeps getting together and raising a big stink against viewsonic and nvidia about not supporting our choice of tablets, I also recall them saying that they were going to continue to support the tablet from that point on.
Well...... I haven't seen much from either of them and it seems that this community is content to sit back and and get fed a load of crap from 2 companies that should have better track records for customer service than they have shown us.
What gives? are we dead in the water? Did they just say enough to appease us in hopes that we would just go away? Are we just going to sit here and keep saying to ourselves that something is "coming soon"?
First and foremost, this should not be in the development forum as it has nothing to do with development, it should be in General or Q/A.
To comment on your post, yes, we are probably **** out of luck.
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this community is content to sit back and and get fed a load of crap from 2 companies that should have better track records for customer service than they have shown us.
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It's called acceptance. I believe it's stage 5 of the grieving process.
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It's called acceptance. I believe it's stage 5 of the grieving process.
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LOL ! ! RIP GTAB
actually there may be little stink becuase some people have realized that we dont' need VS to provide us what we need. They let the 1.2 bootloader out of hte bag, then closed the bag back up, rather quickly. The 1.2 bootloader is the same bootloader that Notion Ink uses on the Adam, also produced by Malata, also with the Tegra 2 Harmony hardware, and now also with the same bootloader as the G-Tablet.
So, since we've accepted that VS is going to be the proverbial dead beat dad, we've noticed that Notion Ink is a tad more responsible. So, what dad won't provide, maybe we can get from stepdad.
It's rumored that Notion Ink is getting an official GB update, with drivers from Nvidea. All VS had to do was make it possible for G-Tablet devs to port roms from Adam (done with 1.2 bootloader) and tada, they no longer need to support the device, because they can rely on others to do it for them.
We'd like them to continue providing updates, or at least admit that we are still here, but we don't necessarily NEED them to do it anymore.
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What gives? are we dead in the water? Did they just say enough to appease us in hopes that we would just go away? Are we just going to sit here and keep saying to ourselves that something is "coming soon"?
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There are new and fresh ROMs around for the tablet. Our "community" is fairly large and crosses many forums.
are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
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are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
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Just have a look around. Roebeet is working on a HC port. Adam evs have begun working on a port for HC, and Roe is working on fixing the bugs to make it work on the G-Tablet. It's still in Alpha versions, but has caused some pretty big waves in the community...but, video drivers are proviing to be the deal breaker there right now, too.
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are there any honeycomb roms yet?
or any gb roms that dont disable the hardware video acceleration?
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The CM7.1 nightlies are GB and have some hardware acceleration built-in now.
Sorry about posting in rom dev. I always check here first and was saddened by the lack of new items coming in.
It isn't just the software that I'm speaking of, what about all the hardware that other tablet vendors have available the docking stations actually made for their tablets, the cases and covers that fit without any modifications.
I went into a "tech" store the other day, won't mention which one, and when I explained that I already had a VS tablet the salesperson actually said.. "Well we sell real android tablets here so let me know if you want to talk about what we have in stock."
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I went into a "tech" store the other day, won't mention which one, and when I explained that I already had a VS tablet the salesperson actually said.. "Well we sell real android tablets here so let me know if you want to talk about what we have in stock."
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That sounds like a sales pitch to me. Just because some people don't realize the potential of a product, doesn't make that product extinct.
My buyer's remorse is increasing...
They had 7" Galaxy Tabs on Woot.com for $260 yesterday. I wish I knew they were going to be lowered in price so much in anticipation of the 10" version coming soon, because I would gladly have bought one of these instead...
I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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+1
Just becuase it doesn't have the latest and greatest that a $800.00 tablet has, it does exactly what I want and I knew what I was getting into when I bought mine from WOOT.
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I would take my gtab over a 7" galaxy tab anyday.
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Seriously ! Samsung is just as bad as VS when it comes to support in any way. Be happy with your purchase and in a year get a transformer when the price drops to 250 and it already has a fat stack of roms to play with.
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...it does exactly what I want and I knew what I was getting into when I bought mine from WOOT.
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I read about it quite a bit here prior to my purchase and knew that I'd be able to at least get it rocking a solid and clean froyo.. If I can get GB and/or HC on it eventually that's just icing on the cake for me.. (I say eventually, because I won't jump until hw vid accel is nearly 100%)
-Xith
I look forward to kalel and the ice cream sandwich future. The only thing interesting to me in honeycomb are the pinch more tablet specific apps and the new 3.1 usb compatibility.
I hate to sponsor another site but you should go check out www.slatedroid.com Roebeet is there releasing tons of roms for this beast. I don't know why you are complaining unless you paid the full 499 or whatever price these tabs normally sell for. I picked mine up for 299 and haven't looked back. OCed to 1.4 ghz brilliant corners rom is running perfectly it ran great at stock too. Im getting between 3800 and 4100 in quadrant I have yet to get below a 3800. It runs all my games fine flash 10.3 and full market access. Its exactly what I want.
as far as hardware and accessories, you'll just never get that with ANY android tablet. sure, you'll get some things from the manufacturer, like our dock, and official tablet, but there just isn't anything pushing third party vendors to make products specific to any android tablet. The main reason is that each tablet is just so different.
If we are going ot bite the bullet and insist n NOT getting an iThing, then we have ot accept that we won't have as many iAccessories or iDocks, or iCases, etc.
I bought a zune...2 of them actually, knowing that I wouldn't be able ot use any of the plethora of accessories that were made for the iPod.
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I hate to sponsor another site but you should go check out www.slatedroid.com Roebeet is there releasing tons of roms for this beast. I don't know why you are complaining unless you paid the full 499 or whatever price these tabs normally sell for. I picked mine up for 299 and haven't looked back. OCed to 1.4 ghz brilliant corners rom is running perfectly it ran great at stock too. Im getting between 3800 and 4100 in quadrant I have yet to get below a 3800. It runs all my games fine flash 10.3 and full market access. Its exactly what I want.
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No Netflix.
Ok , a co worker is selling a 32G almost new touchpad. I really want to buy this since i missed out on the firesale and he is offering at the same price as he bought it for and also CM devs are working on it and judging by the videos i saw, i see a lot of potential.
Now since you guys are already on it and some of you have installed CM7 on it, i want to know if its a good investment as I intend to use it only with android. I know its still in alpha and developing stage, but is the hardware really worth the investment ?
Or should I hold on for a few more months and then buy something better ?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Well if he's asking for 150 that's a steal people these days are dying for a deal like that
sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it
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Well if he's asking for 150 that's a steal people these days are dying for a deal like that
sent from my HTC evolution running a freshly baked gingerbread with the 4gs in it
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yeah definitely jump on it.
and then send it to me.
thanks
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I've got the alpha loaded on mine, haven't messed with it to much but the major things are working no problem. My opinion, buy it! Great investment. Maybe its the CM7 team being humble or my ignorance but this build looks like it is closer to beta than alpha, my opinion
Edit: As far as the hardware, everything on it is great, except the camera. Its kinda crappy in either OS. The speakers are loud and clear. I had the processor('s) overclocked to 1.5ghz normally but up to 1.7 and it was stable, that was in webOS only, haven't got that far in Android. The one thing I like about the touchpad over other tablets, and it may seem gimicky, but the Touchstone built in inductive charging. I'm not to familiar with other official Android tablets, but the lack of expandable memory on the touchpad kinda stinks, but theres enough cloud services and what not to cover that. The list goes on, overall, theres a lot more positives than negatives on this device. No regrets!
Thanks guys. Really appreciate the honest answers. I actually got my hands on it today and im pretty impressed.
I think i'll buy it and 150 is a steal like you guys pointed out. Cant wait to get on the development forums and start messing around with the CM7.
Thanks guys!
Definitely get it. I bought one during the firesale and had doubts about webOS. Now I love it. I also have a Asus Transformer but I have only used it 2 or 3 times since I got the TP. I basically gave the transformer to my wife. Now I love WebOS. It is definitely more user friendly than honeycomb. I wish there were more apps, but there is still an app for pretty much everything. I hate to see how kill what palm worked so hard for, but that's the only way I would have ever experienced it, because I damn sure wasn't going to pay $600 for a tp.
Definitely get it and just give webOS a try. If you like Android I think you will be impressed with webOS. It has a look and feel like Android with a skin rather than a full separate OS. If someone could make Android apps run on the Touchpad I wouldn't be able to find a single bad thing to say about a TP at all.
Also please don't think I am any sort of palm/hp/webOS fanboy trying to troll. I am truly and Android fan and will always be, webOS has just grabbed more of my attention in the tablet space, for now. That could all change after ICS is released.
Good luck, and definitely get it. Worse case u don't like it and could still sell it for a small profit.
lol when i went to Android i kept trying to swipe up to change apps.
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Hey guys! hope ur all doing well
so i am looking for a nice tablet and i feel for the hp touchpad. The problem is: Its not sold in my country so i have to buy it from Ebay. I am now wondering is 260$ worth buying the HP Touchpad? It will be 300$ including shipping, thats the cheapst i could find on Ebay. I was looking for the motorola Xoom but its very expensive..with shipping it could be 450-500$ for the Xoom. So help me out plz, should i buy it?! never owned a tablet before, and from looking at the reviews, WebOS looks awesome, so smooth and then u'll always have the chooice to put android (i think with ICS it will become even better when the source code is released) what is your thoughts? hit me!
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Definitely get it. I bought one during the firesale and had doubts about webOS. Now I love it. I also have a Asus Transformer but I have only used it 2 or 3 times since I got the TP. I basically gave the transformer to my wife. Now I love WebOS. It is definitely more user friendly than honeycomb. I wish there were more apps, but there is still an app for pretty much everything. I hate to see how kill what palm worked so hard for, but that's the only way I would have ever experienced it, because I damn sure wasn't going to pay $600 for a tp.
Definitely get it and just give webOS a try. If you like Android I think you will be impressed with webOS. It has a look and feel like Android with a skin rather than a full separate OS. If someone could make Android apps run on the Touchpad I wouldn't be able to find a single bad thing to say about a TP at all.
Also please don't think I am any sort of palm/hp/webOS fanboy trying to troll. I am truly and Android fan and will always be, webOS has just grabbed more of my attention in the tablet space, for now. That could all change after ICS is released.
Good luck, and definitely get it. Worse case u don't like it and could still sell it for a small profit.
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I agree. I like Webos.. Its pretty.. Easy to use.. I like the multitasking concept.. Though I just added perfect task switcher in Android which sorta gives you the same thing though not as good. Android is clunky compared to it.. Because its made for for small screens.. But I still love it and haven't booted webos since cm7 lol...
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lol when i went to Android i kept trying to swipe up to change apps.
LOL
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Same here! Still getting used to the onscreen "soft keys" as well
At the fire sale price or close to it, it's a no brainer. Not even worth asking...
Worse comes to worse if you absolutely hate WebOS, you can always sell it and at very least get you money back.
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So jazzed to see what is possible with this device!
I'm on board!
Have any dev's commited to developing for Nook Tablet?
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Have any dev's commited to developing for Nook Tablet?
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm looking at purchasing my first tablet and I'm having a hard time choosing between the KF and the NT.
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm looking at purchasing my first tablet and I'm having a hard time choosing between the KF and the NT.
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Same here, one of those two is going to be my first tablet. I have no intention of keeping either stock though, so the dev community is going to make or break it for me. I've heard nothing but good things about the original Nook Color community so I'm leaning way more towards a Nook right now.
If the Nook Tablet is anything like a Nook Color, its going to be a modders playground.
the NC was by far the best android tablet on the market for the money. Just needed a bit of tweaks.
If BN took the NC and upgraded some Hardware, its going to be one sweet device.
WTH, where is my ICS port? It's been what.. 3 hours now.
Lazy developers...
(kidding, of course =)
after getting my hands on one today, it really is just new hardware in the same shell. the ui got a little bit of a makeover too but it's still pretty familiar stuff. overall it felt very snappy.
The B&N by our house has them in stock and on sale. I just picked one up. Never having the original Nook color to compare with, I can't comment on that but so far it's a nice little tablet. I really only picked it up for the eventual root and port action.
I'm curious about the K Fire as well, but the lack of SD card slot made me think that rooting, flashing and overall modding would be a pain. I've got 2 weeks before I change my mind and pick that one up instead. Either way, I'm excited!
I am not an Android development expert but....
I have seen that the ICS sourcecode can be built for the Pandaboard which has the same processor of the new Nook Tablet (TI OMAP4430).
Does this mean that the ICS ROM could run on the Nook Tablet as well? What am I missing here?
Thanks!
C.
connor32 said:
I am not an Android development expert but....
I have seen that the ICS sourcecode can be built for the Pandaboard which has the same processor of the new Nook Tablet (TI OMAP4430).
Does this mean that the ICS ROM could run on the Nook Tablet as well? What am I missing here?
Thanks!
C.
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It's not just a CPU thing. Every hardware need his own drivers.
Surely soon we will have a full port of ICS for our NookTablets, but now we have still no ROOT, so... just be patient
CM9 will arrive maybe in 2 months, MIUI on middle Dec.
We need Autonooter first.
Seems like the KF has already been rooted.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/kindle-fire-gets-rooted-with-one-click-paves-the-way-for-amaz/
Nook Tabled FTW
well im going to buy a Nook Tablet, cuz SD Card Slot and double size Space and RAM is really making the difference between the KF and Nook Tablet. i just hope that enough Developers would see that the same way and buy Nook Tablet so we can get KickASS Custom ROMS and goodies
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I'm tempted to expand my kernel hacking to OMAP - but it's hard to justify when I already have a Samsung 10.1...
Has kernel source been posted yet?
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I'm tempted to expand my kernel hacking to OMAP - but it's hard to justify when I already have a Samsung 10.1...
Has kernel source been posted yet?
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Do eeeeeeeet!!!
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I'm tempted to expand my kernel hacking to OMAP - but it's hard to justify when I already have a Samsung 10.1...
Has kernel source been posted yet?
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I didnt see it being released, but it looks like BN has good attitude towards rooting, as mentioned in other threads.
But yeah, please help us get this thing opened up, this would be an incredible tablet - powerful and small.
It makes me a tad sad to see the KF get rooted already and the NT has had little to no progress. I hope development picks up soon. It's kind of depressing to see Amazon stealing the thunder from the little guy.
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It makes me a tad sad to see the KF get rooted already and the NT has had little to no progress. I hope development picks up soon. It's kind of depressing to see Amazon stealing the thunder from the little guy.
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Keep in mind that BN moved up the release date at the last minute.. not every store had them today and the BN.com website still said 11/18..
I'd be surprised if we don't get root before too long.
Yeah, I believe the KF is already officially on sale, while the only NT owners are some lucky preorder customers who managed to get the unit earlier than planned.
Remember, right now, technically the NT is still a "pre-launch" device.
My guess is kernel source will show up when the NT support pages go live (they don't exist yet.)
I was able to just walk in to a store and buy one yesterday without a pre-order.. but I suppose I was lucky.
Here's hoping for the kernel source soon.
I have some ideas for 2nd init that I am going to try today. Going to see exactly how 2nd init on the X used a hijack zip rather than just init.rc like we have now. It seems like it's executing in the right spot. Just not loading what we need to.
Sounds Pike a good start keep us posted. This is exciting
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Good stuff...u gonna be on IRC today?
Ill be checking it occasionally when I have time...at work now.
good luck
Well I cant do much today but I looked at some more documentation on the atrix's 2nd init and the actual init part came straight from the Defy like the x's did. Going to try making a wrapper to load the x's hijack which should load a hijack zip and then we could load everything properly. Our 2nd init works via moto_charge_mode or w/e that bin is (something like that) which is why it needs to be plugged in to drop into 2nd init. So I was gonna write a wrapper to try and load the hijack bin from the X since we don't natively have a hijack file. Essentially what it will do is try to load charge_mode and then the actual file would load hijack inside of it. We did something similar to delay the RIL loading on the D2G
Its nice to know you are actually doing something with the phone. Last time we donated a phone to a dev, we didn't hear a peep from him until he said he was getting rid of it to CVPCS. Which is good he got it to CVPCS but he never kept us updated. I for one love knowing what's going on and wish you the best of luck in getting us some CM7 and MIUI love. I can't wait to make hybrid of my Molten ROM and CM7
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Its nice to know you are actually doing something with the phone. Last time we donated a phone to a dev, we didn't hear a peep from him until he said he was getting rid of it to CVPCS. Which is good he got it to CVPCS but he never kept us updated. I for one love knowing what's going on and wish you the best of luck in getting us some CM7 and MIUI love. I can't wait to make hybrid of my Molten ROM and CM7
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Wow that was lame of him lol. Anyways I am doing it because I started falling out of love with my d2g after seeing the X. Not to mention it wasn't a challenge anymore to work on. I do see a lot of potential in the phone given that it scores the same as my D2G in quadrant with my ICS MIUI rom when I have gingerblur on the phone. So it impressed me a bit, especially since it doesnt have neon.
Edit: Speaking of cvpcs I have been keeping in touch with him via twitter as well. I get along with all the other devs out there =). Haven't gotten to touch base with koush yet but I do speak to p3droid and cvpcs from time to time.
This is good news. I've been dying for CM7 since I heard of it after I got the X2.
Keep up the good work and if there's anything I can do to help out just let me know.
Sent from my Eclipsed and ICS themed X2.
cvpcs from what I can gather from his twitter is trying to port ICS over to the X and isn't (and pretty much has no plans to) helping us with the X2.
And ace, I think you're doing is right in theory, but I know we aren't going to be able to use charge_only_mode to use the hijack/2nd-init unless we're going to want to plug in our phones to the wall every time we turn on the phone. The reason our BSR uses it is because you can't draw to the screen without certain services being started (which are started when charge_only_mode is). We aren't going to need those services started if we're just going to hijack and then 2nd-init. I can show you the script I use to hijack/2nd-init for porting over the CWMR and the one I have for when I was working on CM7. It's basically like the hijack binary that is compiled for the X and the others, but in a shell script (that works for our phone).
Also, PM me if you ever need to bounce ideas off of me or want me to try something out.
Yeah, shoot whatever you got to me. I wonder if we could use just a wrapper for hijack. Idk if anyone has tried that yet. Those services may not start inside the bin. idk enough about the charge only mode except it kicks off when its plugged in
If you could just post that here or get it to me as well i would be interested. I have not seen any actual implementation that works on the x2 so far so i would be super interested in what you have done.
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cvpcs from what I can gather from his twitter is trying to port ICS over to the X and isn't (and pretty much has no plans to) helping us with the X2.
And ace, I think you're doing is right in theory, but I know we aren't going to be able to use charge_only_mode to use the hijack/2nd-init unless we're going to want to plug in our phones to the wall every time we turn on the phone. The reason our BSR uses it is because you can't draw to the screen without certain services being started (which are started when charge_only_mode is). We aren't going to need those services started if we're just going to hijack and then 2nd-init. I can show you the script I use to hijack/2nd-init for porting over the CWMR and the one I have for when I was working on CM7. It's basically like the hijack binary that is compiled for the X and the others, but in a shell script (that works for our phone).
Also, PM me if you ever need to bounce ideas off of me or want me to try something out.
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=( the motherboard I bought for my thinkpad was bad. Just contacted the seller (it was supposed to be 100% tested.... yeah..) It isn't that it doesn't turn on... its the it has bad ram on the gpu in it. I get screen corruption in the bios, in windows (in windows it's so bad it bsod's) and on and off the dock. That wrecked my plans yesterday to dev at night. Like I said, I can use my work laptop.... just sucks having to adb push everything. Not to mention my thinkpad has a more complete set of tools. I don't have the rom signer or anything else on here. I even have my boot.img decompiler on there.
You need an early christmas gift for yourself man! There are some pretty good laptops out there for under $400. Not going to set any speed records, but they have some pretty high end tech in them that is only a generation or so old. I was looking for laptops for both my parents and came across a ton of good deals! I personally prefer my built desktops though.
PC Direct is down the road from me, so I trust them a lot. Here are a couple examples.
http://pcdirect.com/laptops/hppadv15wiam.html
http://pcdirect.com/ganv15lawiin.html
AtLemacks said:
You need an early christmas gift for yourself man! There are some pretty good laptops out there for under $400. Not going to set any speed records, but they have some pretty high end tech in them that is only a generation or so old. I was looking for laptops for both my parents and came across a ton of good deals! I personally prefer my built desktops though.
PC Direct is down the road from me, so I trust them a lot. Here are a couple examples.
http://pcdirect.com/laptops/hppadv15wiam.html
http://pcdirect.com/ganv15lawiin.html
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Eh, my thinkpad is a t60p (came out in late 2006) It has a Core Duo 2.16 ghz, 4 GB of ram and a dedicated video card. My old one had a FireGL V5250 but the new board only has an X1400 in it. So it's pretty decent imo. My work laptop is an Elitebook 8440p and is much more powerful... Just that its much more locked down too lol. The seller did say he's shipping a new motherboard tomorrow thankfully.
Edit: Oh and the hard drive is a 320 GB 7200 RPM drive
Edit2: yay, its not totally ruined lol. Safemode's framebuffer doesn't have any issues. So until my new board comes im gonna run it without the proper drivers =)
Ahh, well when I think of thinkpad I think of my girlfriends old POS that I taught her how to swing a sledge hammer at after I bought her a new Sony Vaio Z Series lol.
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Eh, my thinkpad is a t60p (came out in late 2006) It has a Core Duo 2.16 ghz, 4 GB of ram and a dedicated video card. My old one had a FireGL V5250 but the new board only has an X1400 in it. So it's pretty decent imo. My work laptop is an Elitebook 8440p and is much more powerful... Just that its much more locked down too lol. The seller did say he's shipping a new motherboard tomorrow thankfully.
Edit: Oh and the hard drive is a 320 GB 7200 RPM drive
Edit2: yay, its not totally ruined lol. Safemode's framebuffer doesn't have any issues. So until my new board comes im gonna run it without the proper drivers =)
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I checked and i don't have any IBM's, but i have a lot of Dell, Alienware, and Asus. I mostly pick those to work on because of exandability. What would be an ideal laptop you would need for development? (screen size, cpu, gpu)? Of all the laptops i ever had i must say Fujitsu are my favorite by far, if you have/had one you understand. I don't have any portables except for a dell D430 12" only thing is that it has a zif drive not the fastest
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I checked and i don't have any IBM's, but i have a lot of Dell, Alienware, and Asus. I mostly pick those to work on because of exandability. What would be an ideal laptop you would need for development? (screen size, cpu, gpu)?
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Under 15 inches. At least a dual core, support DDR2 (Since thats the only ram I have, unless you throw some in) For gpu, anything but Intel and hopefully discrete if possible. Not going to be picky lol. Just needs to be similar to my thinkpad. My thinkpad has seen better days, thats for sure. Not gonna lie, they're tough mother ****ers. I actually jumped on mine with the lid shut before to show it won't hurt the screen.
I've been working in IT for over 15+ years and personally own about 6 IBM laptops, I'm also Lenovo Warranty Repair Certified and I'd still not jump on those things to prove their durability.
I've seen sales reps break their screens by sitting things on them much lighter than I am. I think the only laptop I would ever say would probably be OK if I jumped on it is a toughbook. Even then, I'm not sure proving its durability that way is all that sensible
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I've been working in IT for over 15+ years and personally own about 6 IBM laptops, I'm also Lenovo Warranty Repair Certified and I'd still not jump on those things to prove their durability.
I've seen sales reps break their screens by sitting things on them much lighter than I am. I think the only laptop I would ever say would probably be OK if I jumped on it is a toughbook. Even then, I'm not sure proving its durability that way is all that sensible
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Heh, I've been working on laptops for quite awhile myself. A+ and HP, Dell certified with experience in other brands but not certified yet. Essentially I knew it was reinforced with magnesium alloy (same stuff alloy rims are made of) plus I positioned my feet to not land dead center lol. I haven't had a support position for awhile but I still know my stuff. I script at the place I work at now.
ashclepdia said:
u do for Ritalin tho hahahaha.
sorry im done. I couldn't resist that one lol
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Don't you remember what happened in south park? They ended up having to take ritalout! XD
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aceoyame said:
Wow someone got po'd. My work laptop works fine. It's my thinkpad that doesnt. I brought up my thinkpad mobo that I brought being bad because people donated to help me get one. Stuff is still being worked on. I just havent had anything to report new yet =) Except that I am still waiting on Dragonzkiller to shoot me his files.
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Good luck, he got Skyrim! LOL.
No more CMXX for Tegra 2, at the very least not officially. This is due to the lack of Neon support on our chips. Just wanted to let erybody know.
If some one want to read it:
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/8wcuSVkr7zR
Well, it's not exactly that. CM10.1 doesn't have anything with NEON, but the keyboard, and it's easy replaceable.
But, as they suguess, probably, we won't get anything beyond CM10.1 - At least working at 100%.
It's a sad notice in did. But we will have Atrix for a while. Don't get upset. .
EDIT: If you read the comments, they said that maybe it's posible to emulate NEON instruction set. That might kill some RAM and CPU/GPU power, but if worth it, worth it. .
Well, since there are no official CM releases for the Atrix beyond CM7, I don't see how this is relevant. Besides, it's the Gapps that will explicitly require NEON support (for now). If KLP runs using the current Gapps, then we're in the clear. If not, well, this phone is getting to its 3rd year. That's, like, ancient in the tech world. And JB already brought a massive amount of improvement over Froyo anyway. Sticking to CM10.1 isn't such a bad idea, methinks.
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Well, since there are no official CM releases for the Atrix beyond CM7, I don't see how this is relevant. Besides, it's the Gapps that will explicitly require NEON support (for now). If KLP runs using the current Gapps, then we're in the clear. If not, well, this phone is getting to its 3rd year. That's, like, ancient in the tech world. And JB already brought a massive amount of improvement over Froyo anyway. Sticking to CM10.1 isn't such a bad idea, methinks.
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I didn't mean to come off as complaining. And I think it is relevant because this is a Tegra 2 device, one that soon could earn official CM releases since we'll have an appropriate kernel. Just wanted to share some news. All I care about is PlayStore and GMail myself, so not a huge loss here.
EDIT this is general. Why WAS THIS MMOOOVED?!
Nah but seriously.
I agree with quetzalcoatl2435, this is a 3 years old device, and ok, some of us have get the device late, maybe less than a year ago, but still a old device.
But, even that way, even if we stick to 4.2 - There is some hugh progress about that. Android 4.2 is like Android as it should have been always.
Plus, if you can notice, Google is moving to release the system apps in Google Play, it start with Keyboard, but I keep hoping they release Contacts, because it's the best contacts app.
Yeah, you could miss something, we are not losing, we won already. We won because we are a community, and we could made it beyond what motorola said that we could.
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I agree with quetzalcoatl2435, this is a 3 years old device, and ok, some of us have get the device late, maybe less than a year ago, but still a old device.
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I wish I knew why people keep saying it's a 3 year old phone. It's not even two and a half years old yet in the US, and barely a tick over 2 years old in the UK.
/rant
I don't think it matters how old it is period. 1) That wasn't the point of the thread, it was to share the news. and 2) If it can run future versions, it can run future versions. Time is not a huge factor.
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I don't think it matters how old it is period. 1) That wasn't the point of the thread, it was to share the news. and 2) If it can run future versions, it can run future versions. Time is not a huge factor.
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Exactly on all points, which is why seeing posts like that irritate me.