Look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145032
Xoom got 1GB of memory, but, 256MB for dalvik vm, 256MB for GPU, 512MB for apps)
So, now with 4 cores, 512MB for apps will be enough?
Or maybe ASUS will be more generous and will give us a full 1GB memory for apps, without dalvik ou GPU?
I don't own a asus transformer (old version), I don't know how tegra 3 will work too. So I really don't know.
Anyone have a clue about it?
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Look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145032
Xoom got 1GB of memory, but, 256MB for dalvik vm, 256MB for GPU, 512MB for apps)
So, now with 4 cores, 512MB for apps will be enough?
Or maybe ASUS will be more generous and will give us a full 1GB memory for apps, without dalvik ou GPU?
I don't own a asus transformer (old version), I don't know how tegra 3 will work too. So I really don't know.
Anyone have a clue about it?
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Interesting question, I heared that multitasking with 512 MB of RAM isn't very good because apps close very soon due the lack of memory.
When Windows 95 shipped, a typical PC had 8MB of RAM, and now this tablet has 125 times that much.
I'm guessing the nature of Android requires less RAM that a desktop OS:
http://davidquintana.com/entry/mobile-multitasking
I hope not!
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When Windows 95 shipped, a typical PC had 8MB of RAM, and now this tablet has 125 times that much.
I'm guessing the nature of Android requires less RAM that a desktop OS:
http://davidquintana.com/entry/mobile-multitasking
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I know a tablet require less memory, they should at least...
But if we got more ram, more complex applications/games can be developed!
We have now some restriction about compress/uncompress files because of the amount of ram free/avaliable at the device.
Let's wait some one put their hands at the tablet and say to us
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Every Android device is like this: some RAM is used by the system, some RAM is used by the video frame buffer, and some RAM is used for applications. Every time a new device is released, this forum and others are filled with complaints like "I don't have 1GB RAM!!! ASUS screwed me!!!" The fact is that there IS 1GB of RAM, it's just being actually USED as it's supposed to be. And, if we had only 512MB of RAM, then far less would be available for running applications.
Furthermore, the number of cores has nothing to do with this--it's not like there's a linear relationship where more cores equals the ability to run more apps. Or, that we're somehow going to be crippled vs. a device with a dual-core processor. We'll be able to run the same number of apps as any other 1GB device, only more efficiently and quickly.
It would be nice to have 2GB, of course, but then the device would just be more expensive.
Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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I think if will be the same number of memory modules, don't have any relationship with battery time.
Some websites eat so much ram and processing (bad developed sites), so, I think the navigation will be more smoother if we get more RAM.
Anyway, I'm thinking in buy one too, but, maybe I will wait for a version with 2GB.
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The RAM in this tablet is hell of a lot faster than the previous TF101. Along with the faster GPU, and CPU, this thing should multitask a lot better than previous dual-core tablets.
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I think if will be the same number of memory modules, don't have any relationship with battery time.
Some websites eat so much ram and processing (bad developed sites), so, I think the navigation will be more smoother if we get more RAM.
Anyway, I'm thinking in buy one too, but, maybe I will wait for a version with 2GB.
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You are right about websites. Web browsers n sites can eat up RAM fast as he'll. More tabs open, more ram eaten up. SH!?, my iPad only has 256MB RAM total and I make due with it..lol browser shuts down at times due to too much ram used or too many tabs open. Heavy duty games will eat it up also.
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The RAM in this tablet is hell of a lot faster than the previous TF101. Along with the faster GPU, and CPU, this thing should multitask a lot better than previous dual-core tablets.
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Yep, the Prime has a faster/more advanced memory module or something. Plus several vids showed it multitasking like crazy. Andyx, member here, even showed a vid with his prime loaded with widgets on all home screens and stuff running in background. It still moved fast n smoothly between pages in such. No slowdown at all.
I multitask on first Transformer and had an app restart in the middle of it maybe one time - when sth was clogging the system (a broken game or sth). Browsers can be a problem though, the more memory they have, the happier (faster) they are. Games use a lot of graphic memory, so the more of it, the better (256 for 2D games is more than enough, but for 3D games nothing is enough ).
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Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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1GB RAM was not enough for me on original Transformer.
On SGS2, I usually get around 500MB of free RAM and that feels sufficient for me.
But on Original TF, with 730ish visible/350ish free, together with more sophisticated apps, RAM easily runs out... The browser will be killed as soon as leaving it.
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1GB RAM was not enough for me on original Transformer.
On SGS2, I usually get around 500MB of free RAM and that feels sufficient for me.
But on Original TF, with 730ish visible/350ish free, together with more sophisticated apps, RAM easily runs out... The browser will be killed as soon as leaving it.
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Yeah phones can deal with ot better. Tblets different story. I guess I'm thinkn since iPad had only 256mb RAM, upgrading to new tablet with 1GB RAM would seem ideal..lol
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Yeah phones can deal with ot better. Tblets different story. I guess I'm thinkn since iPad had only 256mb RAM, upgrading to new tablet with 1GB RAM would seem ideal..lol
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iOS is not as memory thirsty as Android... Not sure about the mechanism behind but that's what happens. The newer tablets after TF201 will probably pack 2GB of RAM.
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iOS is not as memory thirsty as Android... Not sure about the mechanism behind but that's what happens. The newer tablets after TF201 will probably pack 2GB of RAM.
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I believe I heard Samsung and Lenovo new line of tablets coming out near future will pack 2GB of RAM. I wish at least the memory could be upgraded as easily in tablets as with PC. Imagine packing 6-8GB of RAM into Prime
dont forget, more ram means also more battery drain. Ram sucks quite alot.
Of course more is always better^^ But i think "only" 1gb wont be a bottleneck for the prime.
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I believe I heard Samsung and Lenovo new line of tablets coming out near future will pack 2GB of RAM. I wish at least the memory could be upgraded as easily in tablets as with PC. Imagine packing 6-8GB of RAM into Prime
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Yes you heard correct.I posted the link a few threads back.The Lenovo tablet itself will have 2gb of ddr3 ram.Which is a faster ram than the ddr2 ram in the Prime.But I also hear the Lenovo tablet will be a lot thicker (yuck lol).No telling how much ram Samsung will have to put in their 11.6 inch screen (2500x1600) ..that screen is going to be a battery/ram eater lol.
The Lenovo tab is making me doubt getting the Prime as if all the ICS tabs that were made for it feature 2GB RAM then it must mean ICS will benefit from it.
Granted its not as thin as the Prime and wont have a keyboard but prerformace will be better.
As far as the Samsung ICS tab..that will be EXPENSIVE because of the screen, I expect it to be around £599 as currently high res screens that size are in small yields.
I have a HTC Sensation which has "768 MB" of RAM, but a lot of it is used in normal use. I mean a LOT. I normally only have about 100 MB of free RAM. This is how essentially all Android devices are.
Yea, there are going to be some tablets coming out partway through 2012 with 2 GB of RAM, but quite frankly Lenovo products don't do anything for me because they're typically so ugly, and I'm not interested in a Samsung tablet if they put Touchwiz on it.
While I would like 2 GB of RAM, you have to consider that the TF Prime is IMO ushering the beginning of the 2nd generation of Android tablets. No company so far has put such an effort into an Android tablet. Look at the Motorola Droid XyBoard, Motorola's successor to the Xoom. It's absolutely pathetic compared to the TF Prime. Until the TF Prime, every tablet maker so far has been half-assing Android tablets, giving them basically the same specs as always. The TF Prime brings in the true beginning of 2nd gen specs, and it still comes in cheaper than the half-assed XyBoard. Considering that, I'm not surprised that Asus can't make absolutely every spec on the TF Prime amazing. They have to make money on it somehow lol.
I don't think a "super resolution" will be good for us.
Ok, Tegra 3 is X times faster than Tegra 2, but my Xoom got a 1280x800 screen.
Now, 2500x1600? holy ****! too many pixels to handle...
Lenovo? don't have a keyboard.
Samsung? don't like they software modifications...
A asus "prime 2" with 2gb and a faster ddr3? I will got one
Let's wait and see what the future has to offer.
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Hello, as we know, Galaxy S1 was advertised with 512MB ram, but in real there was only ~340MB of usable RAM! So i want to ask, how much ram is usable for applications and how much is free after fresh boot? Can someone check this? You can see this informations in task manager.
I think its about 800-850 RAM.
The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised. For some reason people assume that their phone behaves different than their computer. The operating system and everything like that needs to use the ram as well.
AS stated though I understand the SGS2 to have approximately 850MB of ram free after running the OS etc.
If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
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It did have 512MB of ram in hardware, but a pretty big part of the 512mb was actually dedicated video memory for 3d and movies. The Galaxy Tab 7" which was advertised with 512MB actually had ~600MB of ram in hardware, with extra ram outside the 512MB being for the dedicated video.
With the SGS2 it seems to be as the original SGS with dedicated video ram being taken out of the 1GB. It's easy enough to check by looking at the kernel config files. (And you can even tweak the numbers a bit to get a bit more free ram, as was done in the SGS)
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
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Htc does/did this as well. My Legend is advertised with 384mb ram, but only 290 is available to the system.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Your philosophy is absolutely correct. In Windows that might be a good thing, because it starts buffering to the HD when you run out. But Android will just close some background processes automatically to clear ram as needed.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Unfortunately people these days only know about ram management from that poor excuse of an OS called Windows.... excluding 7.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Agreed, as long as there is a big line between FREE RAM and TOTAL RAM. More total RAM is always a very very good thing regardless of how good the ram management is.
This thread is about total RAM available to Linux/Android, so it's good imho.
Hello;
I recently purchased a 512mb version of the G9 on sale thinking it would be 1gb; turns out after installing ICS that it's still 512mb. Now I'm trying to decide whether I should keep it or return it and spend $60 more on a 1gb version.
Has anyone used both the 512mb and 1gb and noticed a difference? Should I keep the 512mb or spend more money to upgrade?
If you have any recommendations please let me know; thanks!
I had bought the 80 Hdd before with 512 mb. After a fault Archos replaced it and to my surprise it had 1.5 ghz but still with 512 mb. So I got a bump in cpu modele. When the 1gig ram came out I ordered and returned a 101 hdd with 1 gig ram for the same prices I had paid my G9 80 before.... I had to decid which one I keep...I liked the G9 80 better even with the 512 mb.
Personally I did not see anything better on the 1gig of ram. May it's the way I use the tablet. But for me I think 512 Ram is fine. (it's not the 250 from gen8)...
no big difference...
i have the twice
I find that applications persist in the background better, for example, the web browser doesn't have to reload tabs when returning to it so often. The launcher never has to reload when doing something memory intensive.
Other than this there is no real difference (speed etc.)
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I find that applications persist in the background better, for example, the web browser doesn't have to reload tabs when returning to it so often. The launcher never has to reload when doing something memory intensive.
Other than this there is no real difference (speed etc.)
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I only have a 1.2Ghz model but if as a example were to compare a Galaxy Nexus to a Nexus S the background performance is huge!
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I have a memory manager (for manually freeing up old apps) on my home page displaying how much free ram is available and on average it shows about 350MB free. That tells me that the quite a large portion of the 1GB ram is indeed being used and also that the 512MB would most definitely need to swap more often. How that translates to performance however is another question as depending on the apps used, swapping might not be noticeable at all. Only having the two side by side with duplicate setups and performing the exact same actions would be definitive, but hazarding a guess I would say the 1GB should outperform the 512MB in most cases where many apps are opened. Again, that might or might not be a negligible difference..
I dont understand why company's are concentrating on processor amount,dual ,quad? ITS RAM that is so important, put 2 gigs in a dual core phone it will fly! any comments by devs on this would really help thank you
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Thanx can you elaborate? trying to learn
2gigs on dual core would fly, but 2gigs on quad core would fly much much faster...
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RAM isn't overly important in terms of speed. CPU is extremely important. Basically RAM just holds files that will be needed in the immediate future (or have been used very recently) to reduce read times on those files when they are needed. When it comes to actually running code, that is pretty much purely down to CPU speed. 1GB RAM is plenty to store a few apps and the background OS processes. When more is needed, older apps are closed (by "older apps" I mean ones used least recently). Otherwise, recently used apps are kept in RAM for quick switching. Unless you are trying to multitask in dozens of apps simultaneously, 1GB of RAM should be plenty for a phone today.
Both RAM and CPU has equal aspects on any device.
Ever tried playing GTA 4 on a PC with 1GB Ram and Quadcore CPU or on 4GB RAM with a SingleCore CPU...?
Both Ram and Cpu are important in terms of increasing speed.
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The way I have always viewed ram is this; no, more ram than needed won't make your device faster, but it sure will make it slower if you don't have enough!
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Both RAM and CPU has equal aspects on any device.
Ever tried playing GTA 4 on a PC with 1GB Ram and Quadcore CPU or on 4GB RAM with a SingleCore CPU...?
Both Ram and Cpu are important in terms of increasing speed.
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Awesome answer!! Thank you
Just like i thought!!!
"""""Under the hood, the Samsung Galaxy S III from Verizon Wireless is the same as the other US models. It ships with a dual core 1.5GHz processor and 2GB of RAM, which is meant to compensate for the lack of a quad-core processor that is found in the international version of the handset.""""""
JUST LIKE I THOUGHT!!! and above quote is from a major website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol :victory::victory::victory:
More than 1gb of ram isn't needed. If you are on ics or jb, then you need a good gpu. If you are on froyo or gb, then you need a good CPU since they aren't hw accelerated.
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Both RAM and CPU has equal aspects on any device.
Ever tried playing GTA 4 on a PC with 1GB Ram and Quadcore CPU or on 4GB RAM with a SingleCore CPU...?
Both Ram and Cpu are important in terms of increasing speed.
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Comparing PC with Android is a lil'bit out of the rails here. Even with one core and enough GPU combined with 4GB RAM should be enough to enjoy many things. More core's is good for multitasking etc. But when you think how many apps etc are optimized for those gazillion cores......
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I dont understand why company's are concentrating on processor amount,dual ,quad? ITS RAM that is so important, put 2 gigs in a dual core phone it will fly! any comments by devs on this would really help thank you
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Its simple. Big RAM can hold more running apps or a single big app (more bunch of codes). In any case, there'd be high demand of processing. So, manufacturers can only add more RAM when they ensure that they have enough processing speed for better experience.
You can say, we have quad-core CPUs now, why can't we add more RAM like we do in PCs?
Well, the answer: Don't go for specs. Smartphone CPUs/GPUs aren't powerful like Desktop ones (despite same specs). There's power and heat issues, in fact.
Plus, Android and its apps are unable to use multiple cores with high efficiency (Intel advocates this; that's why it launched powerful smartphone CPU with 1 core). So, quad-core performs poorer than single/double core performance on PCs.
It limits the lifetime of a device since it cannot be upgraded and maybe manufacturers like that. RAM usually seems to be the limiting factor on phones running future versions of android. Its too bad it can't be upgraded like a desktop/laptop but thats the cost of fitting all of this hardware into a tiny phone.
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It limits the lifetime of a device since it cannot be upgraded and maybe manufacturers like that. RAM usually seems to be the limiting factor on phones running future versions of android. Its too bad it can't be upgraded like a desktop/laptop but thats the cost of fitting all of this hardware into a tiny phone.
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AGREED! MANY DIFFERENT EXPLANATIONS! glad i asked ,all these helped. more ram would help but only to an extent. example if my wifes former htc design had a gig of ram it wouldn't have lagged so much running a single core 1.2 gig processor. FACT,so htc should have done it,it ran great till it attempted to multitask!:good:
Wasn't it stated during the I/O event that JB in general used less RAM and optimized apps better than the previous OS's so phones wouldn't need as much RAM as before?
It would be nice if JB or ICS had a timeout option for apps open more than a certain amount of time and would shut down automatically therein freeing more RAM. Obviously, it could be turned off or off depending on the user. Or if you could specify certain apps to close after an allotted amount of time if unused. Ex. Play store, calculator, calendar, SMS don't always need to stay on the page you left when you switched apps
I'm betting some of you have a Nexus 7, did you notice that the free ram is about 950MB out of the the Gig that it comes with?
Why do our phone only have like 720MB available if the tablet has so much more?
Both the tablet and our phones have 1 gig, so what gives?
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I'm betting some of you have a Nexus 7, did you notice that the free ram is about 950MB out of the the Gig that it comes with?
Why do our phone only have like 720MB available if the tablet has so much more?
Both the tablet and our phones have 1 gig, so what gives?
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Of that one gig of ram there is firm ware and the OS and some preloaded apps on the Nexus 7 on your phone it is about the same but with a skinned UI and then the carriers bloatware on top of that. It all takes up ram, so no bloatware or skinned UI gives you more ram on your Nexus 7.:good:
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Of that one gig of ram there is firm ware and the OS and some preloaded apps on the Nexus 7 on your phone it is about the same but with a skinned UI and then the carriers bloatware on top of that. It all takes up ram, so no bloatware or skinned UI gives you more ram on your Nexus 7.:good:
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If i'm running a custom rom on my phone with straight AOSP why does the available ram on my phone stay at 720mb like stock?
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If i'm running a custom rom on my phone with straight AOSP why does the available ram on my phone stay at 720mb like stock?
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I think it's reserved for graphics or something. Guessing.
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Its full ram is used to play apps and games on your Nexus 7.
Also...the nexus tablet doesn't have a cell antenna...So no mobile data to keep track of, those services are running on your phone all the time
A friend of mine bought At&t Galaxy S3 and it suppose to have 2gb Ram but when i check the phone it show 1.6GB ram and only 1.03gb available. so i guess it is used by system or graphic or something. Just like the computers that doesn't have dedicated graphic card so if your computer has 4gb ram you would have 3gb ram available the rest is reserved for graphic. i am just assuming that the same this is happening to our phone. if i remember correctly when i had CM9 and when i went to setting, about phone it showed only 768mb instead of 1gb.
I have all 16 on my computer.
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I think it's reserved for graphics or something. Guessing.
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Yeah, i'm sure your right, its reserved for video and whatnot, but why doesn't the Nexus 7 need that video ram used up? It's got a pretty fast video chip too...
My only gripe with the Note is the 1GB of ram. You only have about 350mb available and as we all know, Android caches stuff you run, but most of the time your not holding many apps in that free 350MB so its always restarting apps anyways. This phone (any ICS phone really) needs 2gb of ram.
I've used the S3 and yeah, its super snappy because so much more stays in all that extra active ram... Samsung saw the light and added extra ram, I hope this is a new trend... How do we get a 2gb chip soldered in place of the 1gb chip
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Yeah, i'm sure your right, its reserved for video and whatnot, but why doesn't the Nexus 7 need that video ram used up? It's got a pretty fast video chip too...
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Tegra 3 has its own dedicated ram.
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Tegra 3 has its own dedicated ram.
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That's a pretty good trick then. That alone would make me be sure my next phone was a Tegra 3. Not for the speed, but you really need more ram...
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That's a pretty good trick then. That alone would make me be sure my next phone was a Tegra 3. Not for the speed, but you really need more ram...
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You could always get the S3 or some other phone with 2GB ram.
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You could always get the S3 or some other phone with 2GB ram.
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I'm not giving up my Galaxy Note's huge screen Hoping the Note 2 gets 2gb of ram
Our phones are deliberately under-clocked to 716, some may say it's for the battery life but I think it's because the higher clock speeds lead to shorter phone life. Using custom kernels, you can clock back up or even overclock. The payment is made mostly in battery life, but if your ROM has a memory leak of even the smallest size, overclocking will open the dam and the phone will suffer for it. Also, the phone will run at a higher temperature, which for sure will end its life much faster than leaving it at 716. This is the way I feel about overclocking: If you get the performance you want, leave it alone.
Wtf??
Clock speeds have not a single thing to do with ram whatsoever
Overclock is for the cpu
Aside from the OCD of the available RAM number, how has this negatively impacted your user experience? Are applications running slowly or crashing?
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Aside from the OCD of the available RAM number, how has this negatively impacted your user experience? Are applications running slowly or crashing?
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Apps are continuously closing and having to be relaunched (slower). Back in the older days of android where apps were 20-30mb it wasn't a huge deal, but some of these new games/apps take up well over 100mb of ram. everything else in the background is closed as it needs to make room..
Would be nice to have more active app space for a much smoother "multitasking" experience.
Sounds like we need a high speed dev to create some software to access the SD card and use it as ram....
Is that even possible ????...Hmmmmmm
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Apps are continuously closing and having to be relaunched (slower). Back in the older days of android where apps were 20-30mb it wasn't a huge deal, but some of these new games/apps take up well over 100mb of ram. everything else in the background is closed as it needs to make room..
Would be nice to have more active app space for a much smoother "multitasking" experience.
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Are you running more than one game that takes 100+ MB of RAM at a time? Do you jump from one game to another in the middle of action?
Sounds like you want to just want to be able to adjust your LMK settings. I don't believe there is kernel that lets you do that yet, but I'm sure there will be eventually.
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Sounds like we need a high speed dev to create some software to access the SD card and use it as ram....
Is that even possible ????...Hmmmmmm
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not quite.. SDs speed of 20-30MB/s is a far cry from the 1GB of LPDDR2 "333Mhz?"in our note with a transfer rate of 5,333MB/s
Personally I'm a bit worried about the phone only having 3GB of RAM. I am a power user and play games pretty often too. I constantly switch from Chrome, Line messenger, whatsapp, facebook, skype, clash of clans, and a few other games. I switch from literally all these apps pretty much every time I pickup my phone to use.
I had the S6 Edge before and the downtime all adds up because of the crappy memory management. Even my Xiao mi 3 with 2gb RAM handles multitasking literally twice as good, but its not good enough for what I do on my phone.
Does anyone out there have a similar habit to me with 3GB/4GB of RAM device that can comment? Would love to hear from the experts here that has similar usage as me!
Is 3GB enough? How much do you have spare after loading all your daily apps?
I don't worry.as Nexus 5X has only 2g ram.
Dont worry about the 3GB RAM it will be sufficient for your needs. And dont based it on SGS6 because RAM management on that phone is veerry aggressive and I actually sold my S6 for MXPE 2015 because of that issue.
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I'm not necessarily worried per se but I would have liked for it to have 4GB of RAM only for future proofing.
I'm buying this phone for my dad. Unlike me, he doesn't like to change his phone for at least 2- 3 years, he's been using his Lumia for 3-4 I believe and for someone like that, I think it is worth it to get something that can last a while.
Not worried at all. I'm hesitant to get my wife the 5x because of only having 2gb though.
Too many screen redraws on my xperia devices but far less on a nexus device with 2gb ram. Less bloatware on Nexus devices meaning more free ram.
Lol you guys realize 3gb of ram is a ton...its a freaking phone! Can you remember not so long ago computers had on average 1 to 2gb ram. Now we expect our cellphones to have 4gb... Pretty crazy!
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Nope 3gb is more then enough
It's plenty.
Nexus is Pure Android, So no worries at all
The oneplus two I had almost never went more than 2.4gb in usage.
3gb lpddr4 should be plenty.
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Lol you guys realize 3gb of ram is a ton...its a freaking phone! Can you remember not so long ago computers had on average 1 to 2gb ram. Now we expect our cellphones to have 4gb... Pretty crazy!
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that was well over ten years a go and technology moves fast
more typos!
More to the point in, 5 years:
N1 512MB LPDDR;
NS 512MB LPDDR;
GN 1GB LPDDR2;
N4 2GB LPDDR2;
N5 2GB LPDDR3;
N6 3GB LPDDR3;
N5X 2GB LPDDR3;
N6P 3GB LPDDR4.
500% increase in RAM and each new LPDDR generation doubles fetch size and transfer speed.
At first I was slightly concerned about the 6p only having 3GB. But after finding out it utilizes LPDDR4 RAM, I'm not too concerned anymore. The extra bandwidth of LPDDR4 will do wonders for the 2560 x 1440 display.
LPDDR4 Specifications: http://www.androidauthority.com/lpddr4-everything-need-know-599759/
I worry all the time.... Just 3gig.... I need like 128gig of ram.... F Google....
Can you recognize my sarcasm over here.... It's a nexus even my nexus5 can multitask better than any phone out there
people, I can play crysis 3 with 4gb on my pc at extreme.
3gb DDR4 is more than enough for a smartphone. look at the iphone (1gb)
i understand where you guys are coming from. I'm worried about 3GB because my xiao mi3 with 2GB has over 1GB available with no apps open. When I start using it, I have apps reloading left right and center because I have everything on the go inc 3 games. But the Xiao Mi3 defo handles it better than the S6 Edge.
LDDR4 doesn't mean it will keep apps open better than DDR3 right? Its just faster.
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i understand where you guys are coming from. I'm worried about 3GB because my xiao mi3 with 2GB has over 1GB available with no apps open. When I start using it, I have apps reloading left right and center because I have everything on the go inc 3 games. But the Xiao Mi3 defo handles it better than the S6 Edge.
LDDR4 doesn't mean it will keep apps open better than DDR3 right? Its just faster.
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Yeah ddr4 is only faster.
yeh thought so. Also the quad HD display is just gonna hog more memory too.
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yeh thought so. Also the quad HD display is just gonna hog more memory too.
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More RAM will be used up as video RAM for the QHD, yeah. To be honest, as bad as the Samsung phones are for memory, they're not unusable and work ok. When you think of all the crap the 6P won't have running in the background compared to the Sammys, I really think it'll work well.