First off, I would like to say that I have been actively reading and searching the web for information on these topics and I have found many different sources and answers.
The reason why I am still starting a new threat about this is because I am completely new to the 'development'/modifying spectrum of my phone. And while many of the threats give accurate descriptions on how to root it or what to use, I still am left with many noobi blanks on this topic.
1. Rooting, what exactly are the benefits and what will be altered if I decide to root my device?
2. Is it worth it to root my phone? What's the major benefits and new things I will be able to do? And are there any problems or dangers I need to be aware of? (I've been using it for almost a year without doing so) Also, is there a way I could backup my current files and data and then place it back on the rooted device?
3. I've read about ways of rooting in which the kernel will be altered and about some in which it won't even be touched. So, what is the, let me put it bluntly, 'best' rooting technique/way to go with?
Thank you for any help possible on this topic!
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
UpInTheAir said:
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
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Wow I can't believe I've missed these two! Will read them right away!
Thank you for the quick help!
Any other help and opinions/experiences are still greatly appreciated!
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
JJEgan said:
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
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Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
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Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
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No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
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No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
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Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty. And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
Yep it indeed did!
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Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty.
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No, you cannot back up app data without root.
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And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
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If by conversations you mean your SMS, you CAN back up and restore SMS withOUT root using one of several apps. I use SMS Backup+; it backs SMS and MMS messages to your GMail account, and can restore SMS. It cannot restore MMS as of yet though.
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- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
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You can use SetCPU to create profiles based on what state the phone is in, such as screen on/off.
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' are regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
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It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
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Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
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One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' str regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
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There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
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Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
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I was talking about getting the SMS Backup + right away, which I already did.
And about the SetCPU as soon as I get my phone rooted.
Alright, yes backups are always an important thing to do. So we are talking more of software dangers though (not booting up correctly, stuff messing up or not launching, crashes etc.) rather than any hardware damage that could be caused?
Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
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Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
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Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
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Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
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Oh now that I reread that I see what you mean. I am aware that the rooting it's self will not improve/worsen the performance of the phone or anything else.
I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
Sorry for the confusion!
There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
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I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
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Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
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There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
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Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
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Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
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You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Give this a try for all the links need to root and the process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488496
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Hey good luck and have fun
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Well my work just got a bunch of iPhones and the CEO got one of the. He had the Samsung before so I got it as an upgrade over my crackberry.
Now I really want to install a custom rom/kernel on the phone but I am hesitating because its really not my phone and my work owns it.
What do you guys think should I stick with stock or should I root the phone and install a rom?
Stock. There's nothing like explaining to the boss how you f'd up company equipment.
I dont know if one should/should not install custom roms on a work phone, as I don't have one. But I can tell you that if you do decide to root and install one of the custom roms, it's not that hard to unroot and go back to stock later on when you need to return the phone. There are several threads here that will guide you through the process too.
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Stock. There's nothing like explaining to the boss how you f'd up company equipment.
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I guess your right I just hate being stuck on 2.1 when I know I can have a nice Froyo install. It's just so hard not to do because I have done it with all my other devices.
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I guess your right I just hate being stuck on 2.1 when I know I can have a nice Froyo install. It's just so hard not to do because I have done it with all my other devices.
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I hear you...but who's to say he won't ask for it out the blue someday?
Idk, at this point, the fascinate is practically impossible to brick. You also say you have experience rooting and customizing other phones, correct? I say go for it. The only reason I could see not to is due to security issues. Work passwords and etc.. I really don't know too much about all of that tho.
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I have a rooted android work phone. All you have to do is read what ppl are saying about the roms and FOLLOW DIRECTIONS and youll be fine.
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Well my work just got a bunch of iPhones and the CEO got one of the. He had the Samsung before so I got it as an upgrade over my crackberry.
Now I really want to install a custom rom/kernel on the phone but I am hesitating because its really not my phone and my work owns it.
What do you guys think should I stick with stock or should I root the phone and install a rom?
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Used my fascinating voodoo powers
I seriously discourage doing anything to it. It's not yours for one, and (no disrespect to the devs ofcourse, their work is amazing) there really isnt anything spectacular for this phone at the moment due to samsung's failure to provide any source code. To be more specific... our kernels suck.
And oh yea this shouldve been in the Q&A section so be ready for ashasaur to move this thread. (hes really good at doing that )
Depends on your comfort level, and of course, your corporate policies.
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I would say root your phone at the most. It's fairly easy to recover from just rooting, but flashing roms/kernels/modems is much more risky. At least with rooting, you could fairly easily freeze the bloat with TiBu and have a more functional phone. Thawing everything and un-rooting would have you a stock phone back fairly quickly, and you could also still receive OTA updates as well.
I say go for it if anything goes wrong all you have to do is odin back to stock it removes everything its as simple as plugging the phone in load the stock file and click start I've done this countless times
We pick our work cell phones specifically because of the potential customization we can do. I hate being stuck with some company's version of what they think will be useful to me in my job. I can Odin this phone back to stock/factory defaults in less than 5 minutes if need be, so customizing this phone and expanding its abilities, and recovering from those customizations quickly, were what attracted me to it.
Android is Android, whether it's Samsung's stock version or one of the dev's version of it. Your phone is still going to perform the same tasks you need it to for your job. As long as you are both competent with the technologies involved and confident in your ability to restore to stock, I don't see why you should hesitate from exploring the options that are out there, especially when Froyo source drops and we see an explosion of dev-created customizations/enhancements.
Really? If your asking for advice on whether to mess with a business owned phone, it makes me wonder are you the ceo's mail clerk?
SuperClean2.9.1vNitroDark
Personally for a work phone, I'd update it for better usage in my work.
Increasing battery life usage duration.
Less irritating buggy glitches.
Removing the idiotic TW/BING/VZW craps. (too many add-on hacks from google default causing reliability and dependability problems)
Adding Backup and Restore nandroid for possible failures and migrations.
I suggest DJ05 + SuperClean + Blaze v2.3.1R2.
OK so this is like the 6th time I've rooted my device, after reading many threads / websites, etc, all saying how 'amazing' root is. Well, I'm still disappointed.
Is there anything good to use for root users?
OK theres titanium backup, but that's useless - to me - as bloatware doesn't bother me and I don't **** around with my device.
Granted, GameCih2 is good, but it rips the fun out of games after a while.
I can't seem to find any other root apps that make me think 'Damn, I'm glad I rooted my phone!' just so that I can use that app.
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Rooting is often better when using alternate roms.
You have to root if you plan to use MIUI... and I've been thinking "damn I love my phone" ever since I flashed MIUI
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You have to root if you plan to use MIUI... and I've been thinking "damn I love my phone" ever since I flashed MIUI
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Looks VERY nice, how's the battery life though?
If you have no idea what root is, and expecting something magical to happen, maybe it's better to just leave it as it is.
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If you have no idea what root is, and expecting something magical to happen, maybe it's better to just leave it as it is.
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I know exactly what root is, I just don't see the big fuss about it.
CyanogenMod is the big fuss lol
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Yeah, you don't "**** around with your device" so overclocking, kernels, radios, and roms are not really for you.
Adfree, TB, ROM manager, root explorer, cache cleaner, etc. The list goes on.. Superuser only.
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I know exactly what root is, I just don't see the big fuss about it.
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If you'd knew you wouldn't start threads like this. You're like a guy who buys a lawnmower just because everyone says how awesome they are, but you live in a flat. So you just store your lawnmower in the living room, and have no use for it. If you don't need root, don't root. Many of us need it for certain things we do with our phones. It's not because all the cool kids have it, so we have it also.
Likewise root ls required to carry out certain tasks.
SGS newbies seem to root phone just because rather than as a tool required .
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OK so this is like the 6th time I've rooted my device, after reading many threads / websites, etc, all saying how 'amazing' root is. Well, I'm still disappointed.
Is there anything good to use for root users?
OK theres titanium backup, but that's useless - to me - as bloatware doesn't bother me and I don't **** around with my device.
-Title, Thanks.
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The person that is happy with the device the way it came out of the box has no reason to root. I would think the average XDA member is not that user. The ability to have as much control of your device as possible is what root enables. For instance Titanium Backup allows me to backup my apps so when things go wrong I can restore my device much quicker without re-downloading every app.
Rooting allows the installation of Clockwork or Streakmod recovery which enable Nandroid backups of the entire system. Then to me the ultimate reason to root is to experience custom ROM's. These developers that take it upon themselves to improve the operating systems that run the devices are incredible. Doing things the billion dollar corporations can't or won't do to make the devices perform to the utmost of their abilities. This is not of course for people that don't f73k around with their devices. You have wasted you time 6 times.
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... You're like a guy who buys a lawnmower just because everyone says how awesome they are, but you live in a flat. So you just store your lawnmower in the living room, and have no use for it...
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LMAO. Brilliant analogy. Not exactly accurate. But amusingly random and gets the point across...
flashing....
RicoonDK said:
You have to root if you plan to use MIUI... and I've been thinking "damn I love my phone" ever since I flashed MIUI
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I loved my HD2 running hyperdroid. But i just got a Galaxy s2 and Im not impressed with (stock) device. I swear the streaming video was clearer, the wifi reception better, and internet was faster on my rooted HD2 than a stock Galaxys2.
After your flash, are these the kind of things that were improved? I cant even remember how my WM HD2 compared in these areas to my android HD2.
Dear community,
I've rooted my TFP using the guide from xda. To be honest, I didn't mean to, I read the guide and got carried away with it . Finally the root is good now. As a windows guy and with slight understanding of linux I'm pretty new to android.
My question is, now that my tablet is rooted, how can I take advantage of it? What are the recommended apps? Any known tweaks?
Please enlighten me
Search 'root' on android market.
Titanium Backup is useful, Ghost Commander or EZ file, there are also apps to remote control your tablet, you can use new launchers - trebuchet launcher or nova launcher on rooted devices.
You can also delete system files, so be careful.
The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
While I haven't rooted my Prime yet, I'm only in day 6 and waiting until the "send it back" period elapses I rooted my moto Atrix2 almost immediately. I installed Titanium Backup as well as System Tuner, and a couple other root only apps. The primary reason for rooting the Atrix2 was to freeze Carrier ID as I don't care for ATT snooping on me with without so much as a by your leave. In any case I'll probably root the Prime just to get more control over what the device is doing when it's in standby. For instance I am hoping to be able to use Tasker to shut off the wifi after 5 or 10 minutes in standby in order to save battery power and turn it back on,when I wake up the tablet. Maybe find a way to create different, more detailed power profiles for different activities. I've done a lot of this on the Atrix2 and seen some significant increases in battery life because of it.
Q
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The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
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Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
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Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
I haven't rooted my TFP, but I'm seriously considering doing so. The main reason is that most of (good) adbockers require root access. Loading all this rubbish adds, many of them being large flash animations, slows down browsing experience significantly. I want to get rid of them and the only way I know is by rooting Android.
For me about the biggest thing is "AdAway" or any other app for updating host file.
Never see one single ad on your device again. Less anoyance, faster loading times in browser, less data consumption ...
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
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You've never used CM7 then... soon to be CM9.
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Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
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If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
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Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
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I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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EvoYas said:
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
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Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
schnip said:
There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
espionage724 said:
How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
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Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
Pharmbob said:
Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)
Ok so I'm fairly new to the whole rooting thing but I have been studying up quite abit. Lots of really good videos on youtube!! So I'm just looking for some direction on what kind of things I can/should do now that I have rooted my phone. Here is the break down so far:
Rooted - Towelroot
Root Browser Installed
BusyBox Installed
Safestrap Installed and backup saved
Titanium Back Up Installed. Most Bloatware has been safely removed with no issues thus far
SuperSu Installed
Terminal Emulator Installed
CPU Tuner installed but have absolutely no clue what I am doing - still researching this
I think that is about it. So any tipps on next direction would greatly be appreciated!!
Thanks in advance
BowHunter2400 said:
Ok so I'm fairly new to the whole rooting thing but I have been studying up quite abit. Lots of really good videos on youtube!! So I'm just looking for some direction on what kind of things I can/should do now that I have rooted my phone. Here is the break down so far:
Rooted - Towelroot
Root Browser Installed
BusyBox Installed
Safestrap Installed and backup saved
Titanium Back Up Installed. Most Bloatware has been safely removed with no issues thus far
SuperSu Installed
Terminal Emulator Installed
CPU Tuner installed but have absolutely no clue what I am doing - still researching this
I think that is about it. So any tipps on next direction would greatly be appreciated!!
Thanks in advance
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O yes my S4 is NC5 and stock rom
Make phone calls... or browse the internet.
Mine does facebook good.
All the root, customization , ect. is just to make it do what YOU want it to do. If there isn't something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... There isn't really a what next, be happy.
If there IS something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... that next.
edit: though if your not using a custom rom you should probably freeze the program that controls OTA updates. Hopefully someone can chime in with what its called... Been awhile and I forget, and just flashed a rom instead of worrying about it last time I updated my phone.
Like you, I've frozen/killed/uninstalled all the crapware I could. Beyond that, all I've done is installed the Google Launcher. My phone is well behaved and pretty responsive, with minimal lag.
All I would really want at this point is an unlocked bootloader so I could install a straight Google ROM.
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Like you, I've frozen/killed/uninstalled all the crapware I could. Beyond that, all I've done is installed the Google Launcher. My phone is well behaved and pretty responsive, with minimal lag.
All I would really want at this point is an unlocked bootloader so I could install a straight Google ROM.
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I'm on NC5 and have been happily running GPE ROM for quite awhile now. Only problem is the Kernel difference so there's no USB transfer.
Thanks for the reply's. Yeah I don't really game or anything. Heck I don't even Facebook lol but I would like to Play around with getting better battery life and maybe a little speed. Not that I really need too, the response is very good and the lag is only noticeable at times. I want to play around with the CPU tuner but I'm nervous about messing something up and I have not installed a new Kernel yet and from what I have read that is a must.
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Thanks for the reply's. Yeah I don't really game or anything. Heck I don't even Facebook lol but I would like to Play around with getting better battery life and maybe a little speed. Not that I really need too, the response is very good and the lag is only noticeable at times. I want to play around with the CPU tuner but I'm nervous about messing something up and I have not installed a new Kernel yet and from what I have read that is a must.
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NO! Installing a new kernel on SafeStrap NC5 is not a must! It will brick your phone! You can use TW based ROMS and one or two very special AOSP Roms, no new kernels though!
BowHunter2400 said:
Thanks for the reply's. Yeah I don't really game or anything. Heck I don't even Facebook lol but I would like to Play around with getting better battery life and maybe a little speed. Not that I really need too, the response is very good and the lag is only noticeable at times. I want to play around with the CPU tuner but I'm nervous about messing something up and I have not installed a new Kernel yet and from what I have read that is a must.
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I use android tuner for my tuning needs. Really expansive options and a really great app. If you want a really light ROM fort SS GPE ROMs are about 400-500MB. Gets rid of clunky touchwiz and solely runs on Google Now Launcher. Only bummer is the loss of the Touchwiz camera app.
scryan said:
Make phone calls... or browse the internet.
Mine does facebook good.
All the root, customization , ect. is just to make it do what YOU want it to do. If there isn't something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... There isn't really a what next, be happy.
If there IS something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... that next.
edit: though if your not using a custom rom you should probably freeze the program that controls OTA updates. Hopefully someone can chime in with what its called... Been awhile and I forget, and just flashed a rom instead of worrying about it last time I updated my phone.
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FWupgrade.apk and SDM.apk spdclient.apk is for security notifications.
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npjohnson said:
NO! Installing a new kernel on SafeStrap NC5 is not a must! It will brick your phone! You can use TW based ROMS and one or two very special AOSP Roms, no new kernels though!
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Well now, learn something new every day here! So any good sugestions??
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Well now, learn something new every day here! So any good sugestions??
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HyperDrive is solid and a good ROM for those newer to 'all this' IMO. I am on BlackBox which is stupid fast and has great battery life but is a little buggy. I've had it on my phone for over a week now and have no plans of taking it off anytime soon. But it's up to you now. Just make sure you wipe everything before you flash, always make a backup beforehand and only flash ROM's that are proven on your device and your bootloader and you will be money. Also, read read read the threads before flashing.
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npjohnson said:
NO! Installing a new kernel on SafeStrap NC5 is not a must! It will brick your phone! You can use TW based ROMS and one or two very special AOSP Roms, no new kernels though!
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liljoe727 said:
HyperDrive is solid and a good ROM for those newer to 'all this' IMO. I am on BlackBox which is stupid fast and has great battery life but is a little buggy. I've had it on my phone for over a week now and have no plans of taking it off anytime soon. But it's up to you now. Just make sure you wipe everything before you flash, always make a backup beforehand and only flash ROM's that are proven on your device and your bootloader and you will be money. Also, read read read the threads before flashing.
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Appreciate that Liljoe!!
scryan said:
Make phone calls... or browse the internet.
Mine does facebook good.
All the root, customization , ect. is just to make it do what YOU want it to do. If there isn't something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... There isn't really a what next, be happy.
If there IS something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... that next.
edit: though if your not using a custom rom you should probably freeze the program that controls OTA updates. Hopefully someone can chime in with what its called... Been awhile and I forget, and just flashed a rom instead of worrying about it last time I updated my phone.
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it's called SDM in the system portion... and I would get lucky patcher and black mart alpha installed to. these give you access to everything and all the paid apps too.
Add a tethering/hotspot app.