[Q] Why unlock bootloader ? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can anyone tell me the interest to unlock the bootloader?
Is it really useful? In which case do?
Because it is very risky to do.
And is there a post that gives a good explications ?
My phone is come from USA. It's a AT&T under the Gingerbread.

galadiel said:
Can anyone tell me the interest to unlock the bootloader?
Is it really useful? In which case do?
Because it is very risky to do.
And is there a post that gives a good explications ?
My phone is come from USA. It's a AT&T under the Gingerbread.
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Check this thread
THE BEGINNERS (N00B) GUIDE!!! N00BS LOOK HERE FOR YOUR HOW TOs

terminator1983 said:
Check this thread
THE BEGINNERS (N00B) GUIDE!!! N00BS LOOK HERE FOR YOUR HOW TOs
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Thank you for the answer.
But my question was not how but why do it.
What is the interest of this operation?
And thank you for the thread that's great.

galadiel said:
Thank you for the answer.
But my question was not how but why do it.
What is the interest of this operation?
And thank you for the thread that's great.
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Unlocking the bootloader will allow you flash different Custom roms(beta of CM9(ICS) is already out) and kernels.Check the development section for roms and decide if u want to use custom roms or want to stay on the stock.

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terminator1983 said:
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you flash different Custom roms(beta of CM9(ICS) is already out) and kernels.Check the development section for roms and decide if u want to use custom roms or want to stay on the stock.
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Thank you for the information.
I have another question interested? What happens if I flash a ROM without having unlocked the bootloader?
In fact I did it!
And from the device tells me "failed boot 2!" It is because I have not unlocked the bootloader before? And what can I do now? I know it but i'm not sure!
If you want to help me, do not hesitate.

You cant install custom ROMs without unlockng bootloader
After unlocking you have to flash a custom recovery and your ready to install custom ROMs
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try this it might work for u...
first unlock your bootloader
root the device
flash CWM recovery
flash a new ROM
instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600

galadiel said:
Thank you for the answer.
But my question was not how but why do it.
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galadiel said:
Thank you for the information.
I have another question interested? What happens if I flash a ROM without having unlocked the bootloader?
In fact I did it!
And from the device tells me "failed boot 2!" It is because I have not unlocked the bootloader before? And what can I do now? I know it but i'm not sure!
If you want to help me, do not hesitate.
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Seems to me like to did need to know "how to do it"! Next time don't jump the gun and ignore the advice you have been given. Now go back and read the NOOB guide 3 times before touching your phone again!

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CaelanT said:
Seems to me like to did need to know "how to do it"! Next time don't jump the gun and ignore the advice you have been given. Now go back and read the NOOB guide 3 times before touching your phone again!
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As very constructive comment!
I think we learn by making mistakes, no!
I made ​​a mistake. But luckily there are friendly people who make constructive comments, which helps us.
Other people believe themselves better and make remarks that do not advance like you.
Thank you to the other, you have given me great help!

galadiel said:
Thank you for the information.
I have another question interested? What happens if I flash a ROM without having unlocked the bootloader?
In fact I did it!
And from the device tells me "failed boot 2!" It is because I have not unlocked the bootloader before? And what can I do now? I know it but i'm not sure!
If you want to help me, do not hesitate.
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Yes u have to unlock the bootloader to use roms.
Follow the steps given in this link if u have decided to unlock your device bootloader.
[PUDDING] International House of Pudding! BL Unlock/root thread (Updated 07/23/2011)

galadiel said:
As very constructive comment!
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Actually it was constructive. If you had read the guide per another poster's advice, you would not have then been back asking how to get out of trouble because you chose to ignore the given advice!
There is plenty of good help given and offered on XDA, but it's the people who ignore the help/advice, forge ahead blindly, then expect the forum members to fix their screw ups because now they suddenly choose to listen to the advice who really make it difficult to keep a positive attitude.
Nuff said!

To be continued and end...
CaelanT said:
Actually it was constructive. If you had read the guide per another poster's advice, you would not have then been back asking how to get out of trouble because you chose to ignore the given advice!
There is plenty of good help given and offered on XDA, but it's the people who ignore the help/advice, forge ahead blindly, then expect the forum members to fix their screw ups because now they suddenly choose to listen to the advice who really make it difficult to keep a positive attitude.
Nuff said!
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So if we follow the reasoning.
Read the post. And if you're wrong, too bad for you.
it is a beautiful spirit.
I prefer to say "to err is human" but we are here to help. The best thing is to learn from mistakes (but I'm sure you've never made ​​a mistake). And I must say thanks to those who helped me. I will not make the same mistake.
I can even help those who have made ​​the same mistake without insulting them.
And the kind of comments like yours do not learn.
Now I think the discussion can't stop there! And as we say at home: "A bonne entendeur salut!"

Galadiel, I don't believe that is what happened here. The way this conversation unfolded, your messages started off asking a philosophical question "Why is it desired to unlock the bootloader?" and very quickly turned into "Help, I tried it but something went wrong." From your description, the specific problem you had is a well-documented issue that is described in the instructional link you were given to read, including how to fix it.
There are a lot of people trying to modify their phones. That's why the tutorials exist. Your posts sounded dismissive of the help offered to you, and not surprisingly, you got some annoyed responses in return.
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Okay then. Are you still having the "Failed to boot" screen appear after flashing the .sbf file with RSD Lite? Have you resolved your situation, or do you still need help?
galadiel said:
So if we follow the reasoning.
Read the post. And if you're wrong, too bad for you.
it is a beautiful spirit.
I prefer to say "to err is human" but we are here to help. The best thing is to learn from mistakes (but I'm sure you've never made ​​a mistake). And I must say thanks to those who helped me. I will not make the same mistake.
I can even help those who have made ​​the same mistake without insulting them.
And the kind of comments like yours do not learn.
Now I think the discussion can't stop there! And as we say at home: "A bonne entendeur salut!"
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sheeparecurious said:
Galadiel, I don't believe that is what happened here. The way this conversation unfolded, your messages started off asking a philosophical question "Why is it desired to unlock the bootloader?" and very quickly turned into "Help, I tried it but something went wrong." From your description, the specific problem you had is a well-documented issue that is described in the instructional link you were given to read, including how to fix it.
There are a lot of people trying to modify their phones. That's why the tutorials exist. Your posts sounded dismissive of the help offered to you, and not surprisingly, you got some annoyed responses in return.
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Okay then. Are you still having the "Failed to boot" screen appear after flashing the .sbf file with RSD Lite? Have you resolved your situation, or do you still need help?
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I say again. Thank you everyone for your help. I read all your advice and went to read the posts that you advised. All this was very helpful.
I know it.I have been impatient. And I made a mistake. But I prefer a real help instead of infertile reprimands.
Again: thank you all for your help. Thanks to you I understand why and how.
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I will work on my phone this weekend. I will read all items with carefully. Then I will tell you if I passed or not.
And if it does not work I hope you will help me again.

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[Q] insecure I777UCKH7 kernel needed for rooting

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18065445&page=2
Insecure I777UCKH7 kernel needed for rooting. the link above has a flash for a rooted system kernel. Would this work for rooting? If yes, would I still need to root with s2root? If flash won't work for rooting, what insecure kernels will work for my phone?
rmw1980 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18065445&page=2
Insecure I777UCKH7 kernel needed for rooting. the link above has a flash for a rooted system kernel. Would this work for rooting? If yes, would I still need to root with s2root? If flash won't work for rooting, what insecure kernels will work for my phone?
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There is a sticky that explains how yo root. Why don't you try it? I linked it to you in the other thread you created. Why are you making this more difficult than it really is?
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Will the clockwork mod kernel work with an american at&t phone? I'm just being cautious. Paid a lot for my phone, and don't want to brick it.
rmw1980 said:
Will the clockwork mod kernel work with an american at&t phone? I'm just being cautious. Paid a lot for my phone, and don't want to brick it.
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Have you bothered to read at all? This entire section is for the American at&t version.
Sent from my MB865
Look dude, I'm learning here. Try to not be rude.
rmw1980 said:
Look dude, I'm learning here. Try to not be rude.
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If I were you, I would read everything first before asking simple questions that have already been answered. He is not being rude, rather you are. There is a fountain of knowledge here and all you have to do is read, but you are being lazy and expect everything to be spoon fed to you.
If I'm irritating you two so badly, please don't respond. I don't need the headache. Either impart some knowledge to me or move on to another post.
rmw1980 said:
If I'm irritating you two so badly, please don't respond. I don't need the headache. Either impart some knowledge to me or move on to another post.
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The only thing irritating is the fact that you aren't reading the information already given to you or following the forum rules.
Sent from my MB865
rmw1980 said:
If I'm irritating you two so badly, please don't respond. I don't need the headache. Either impart some knowledge to me or move on to another post.
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You are irritating EVERYONE on here. Just read the stickies on the forums. Your question was answered numerous times.
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To make it clear:
Basic Internet etiquette: READ THE FAQ for any forum before posting in that forum!
Entropy512 said:
To make it clear:
Basic Internet etiquette: READ THE FAQ for any forum before posting in that forum!
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'look, if you aren't going to just GIVE me the answer when i demand it, i dont need you posting in my worthless thread'
'i just dont want to take the time to read the information i have already been given, and directed to. i would rather waste time waiting on someone to spoonfeed it to me from a silver platter. now go do my bidding, man servant'
i think that pretty much sums up the thread.

Need help from someone with TWRP/CWM

Can some one willing to help with TWRP and/or CWM PM me. I need someone to run a flashable zip for me. I have not unlocked my bootloader yet.
Thanks in advance.
shook187 said:
First of all, I'm sure no one with this phone has CWM, that being said why would anyone flash something for you without you explaining what they flashing.
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First of all, if you can't help the community don't bother with your snide remarks. With that said anyone can open up ANY flash able zip and see what it does and flashes. If you had done this you would notice it doesn't flash anything.
Well, him wanting someone to PM him will PROBABLY be the way he would explain what he is wanting to be flashed to be honest. And I don't see a point in thanking in advance myself but my opinion doesn't and shouldn't matter to anyone here LoL so neither does yours. Your post is as useless as him Thanking In Advance HaHa, either way he is trying to be polite and your post is uncalled for and rude.
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wondering if anyone would be nice enough to help

looking to root my amaze 4g tonight and i was wondering if anyone whos done it before with the all in one kit would like to help me step by step. this is my first time trying to root a phone so itd be easier if i had someone whos actually done it before to help out a little.
much appreciated =]
I could send u a file which u flash n ur phone will be rooted dm me if u want
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It's really easy to do. If I'm not mistaken Hasoon has a video tutorial up to help you step by step on the development section. It's labeled 'Noob Proof'
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So you make this thread and an hour later you PM me? :sigh:
daniel2115 said:
looking to root my amaze 4g tonight and i was wondering if anyone whos done it before with the all in one kit would like to help me step by step. this is my first time trying to root a phone so itd be easier if i had someone whos actually done it before to help out a little.
much appreciated =]
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We see you are new here, it is pretty much expected that you spend some time reading the stickies and threads that apply to what it is you are trying to do before making these kind of threads. Add to that this topic has been discussed a lot so there is a tone of info on it. Lastly it is absolutely in your best interest to understand what it is your doing and all that information has been discussed ad nauseum.
hasoon2000 said:
So you make this thread and an hour later you PM me? :sigh:
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So? I figured I'd try and get some advice from you if it was possible. I read tons of comments between you and other people and you seemed like a nice guy. I wasn't aware it was a big deal
zPacKRat said:
We see you are new here, it is pretty much expected that you spend some time reading the stickies and threads that apply to what it is you are trying to do before making these kind of threads. Add to that this topic has been discussed a lot so there is a tone of info on it. Lastly it is absolutely in your best interest to understand what it is your doing and all that information has been discussed ad nauseum.
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I've done alot of reading the only thing I'm still unsure about is why theirs no kernels in the all in one kit anymore. In the video he made there's 2 or 3 choices but when I downloaded it the kernel files empty. I don't know if its something about the new update, but I havnt been able to find anything about it.
daniel2115 said:
So? I figured I'd try and get some advice from you if it was possible. I read tons of comments between you and other people and you seemed like a nice guy. I wasn't aware it was a big deal
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You are missing the point. You made 2 threads withing 2 hours and you PM'd me. Instead, you could've made one thread and placed everything there and wait for a response. Patience is a virtue.
I am a nice guy as you saw in the forums. I do not do technical support via PM. I do help around the forum, just not in my PM.
Since you are new to the forum, I'm just explaining how it works around here so you don't get flamed or anything. Some developers do not like to do tech support via PM, some don't mind. However, majority of them don't. Take that into consideration next time.
hasoon2000 said:
You are missing the point. You made 2 threads withing 2 hours and you PM'd me. Instead, you could've made one thread and placed everything there and wait for a response. Patience is a virtue.
I am a nice guy as you saw in the forums. I do not do technical support via PM. I do help around the forum, just not in my PM.
Since you are new to the forum, I'm just explaining how it works around here so you don't get flamed or anything. Some developers do not like to do tech support via PM, some don't mind. However, majority of them don't. Take that into consideration next time.
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Yeah I get where your coming from, I'm sure you get tons of pms about the same stuff over and over. So sorry about that. I don't mean to fill up the forum with post that have already been covered too. Your tool, from what I've read, seems like the safest easiest way to root the amaze. It's my first time ever doing this sort of thing so I just want to be sure I don't mess anything up. Could you answer my question about no kernels being in your kit anymore? Do I just need to download one and put it in the file or what? And if so is there anything else That was taken out and needs to be downloaded that I might've missed?
Thanks.
I think I finally have all the steps down.
1) download winrar
2) download tool and extract data folder to my desktop or wherever
3) turn USB debugging on phone
4) download the rom I want and put it into the kernel section of the data folder.
5) plug in phone
6) follow steps 1-5
7) put unlock_code.bin in the data folder
8) flash recover (should I use the 4ext, TWRP 2.1.0, or find another one online?)
9) flash kernel/rom I picked
10) boot into recovery
11) boot into boot loader
12) relock boot loader (how do I get into fast boot to do this?)
Please let me know if I'm missing ANYTHING in those steps. If I'm not mistaken I should be finished after completing all these?
Thanks again for all the help guys! im just a noob that needs some help. Haha
daniel2115 said:
I think I finally have all the steps down.
1) download winrar
2) download tool and extract data folder to my desktop or wherever
3) turn USB debugging on phone
4) download the rom I want and put it into the kernel section of the data folder.
5) plug in phone
6) follow steps 1-5
7) put unlock_code.bin in the data folder
8) flash recover (should I use the 4ext, TWRP 2.1.0, or find another one online?)
9) flash kernel/rom I picked
10) boot into recovery
11) boot into boot loader
12) relock boot loader (how do I get into fast boot to do this?)
Please let me know if I'm missing ANYTHING in those steps. If I'm not mistaken I should be finished after completing all these?
Thanks again for all the help guys! im just a noob that needs some help. Haha
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All the steps are correct, except for 10-12. You do not need to relock the bootloader. It will only cause more problems.
ALSO, flash the ROM first, then flash the kernel.
Keylogger_0 said:
All the steps are correct, except for 10-12. You do not need to relock the bootloader. It will only cause more problems.
ALSO, flash the ROM first, then flash the kernel.
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So what should I do after flashing the rom?
Also, dont most of the roms already have kernels in them so I won't have to flash both but just the rom?
Thanks a lot!
daniel2115 said:
So what should I do after flashing the rom?
Also, dont most of the roms already have kernels in them so I won't have to flash both but just the rom?
Thanks a lot!
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If you want to use a custom kernel, then you can. If not, just flash the Custom ROM and you will be fine.
hasoon2000 said:
If you want to use a custom kernel, then you can. If not, just flash the Custom ROM and you will be fine.
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Okay that's what I was wondering. So after finishing flashing the ROM I just unplug my phone and that's it?
daniel2115 said:
Okay that's what I was wondering. So after finishing flashing the ROM I just unplug my phone and that's it?
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Pretty much. Just restart the phone and then you are good to go.
hasoon2000 said:
Pretty much. Just restart the phone and then you are good to go.
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Okay thanks I'm going to try it out soon. I'll let you know how it goes.
Oh I almost forgot my last question, which recovery would you suggest using? The 4ext, TWRP 2.1.0, or is there a better one I should download?
daniel2115 said:
Oh I almost forgot my last question, which recovery would you suggest using? The 4ext, TWRP 2.1.0, or is there a better one I should download?
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4EXT
Hey I'm about to try it out now, do I need to uncheck fast boot? And should I recheck it after if I do
I made a video. Follow it.
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I made a video. Follow ]
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awesome video! You just made me so much more confident about doing it lol. So the only difference im guessing is since you didn't flash a kernel I just flash that after the recovery and finish the process. You honestly have no clue how big of a help you've been!

[Q] can someone send me all that I need to Root + S-OFF with new update ICS

Hi
I need someone who will send me or explain me all that I need to Full Root + S-OFF (if its important) for HTC Evo 3D
I have new Update ICS with Android version 4.0.3 and Software number 3.28.401.1 and Hboot version 1.53.0007. I need it as fast as you can.
Thank you guys who will help me
Look through the sticky my friend. there are 5 topics that will help you with all you need.
Yeah, there's stickies and a search tool for a reason: this has been answered hundreds of times. We are not going to spoon-feed you, do some of the work yourself.
Jsparta26 said:
Look through the sticky my friend. there are 5 topics that will help you with all you need.[/QI
I see all that topics but I dont understand it. I dont know what I am do as first step
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Future reference though, next time you need help with something please research before you post a new thread that has been answered over and over. It will save you the trouble of embarrassing yourself.
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ryan4285 said:
Jsparta26 said:
Look through the sticky my friend. there are 5 topics that will help you with all you need.[/QI
I see all that topics but I dont understand it. I dont know what I am do as first step
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What don't you understand?
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Generally around here if you dont understand what you are reading, and don't understand what you are doing, then you probably shouldn't be trying them. Learn more before you break something.
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Sorry guys but I am despairing I sit at my computer 2 hours today and yesterday and I doesen´t understand thats steps here on a youtube or google so I post these and ask if someone help me here
I am agreeing with reefermattness. If you are having this much trouble understanding the step by step guides you need to research everything you do not understand before you attempt to root your phone. Not trying to be harsh but that's what the internet is for. We aren't going to hold your hand and teach you every term and show you how it is done. That is what the guides and videos are for. Sadly if you cannot understand that you should not even attempt to root your phone. Please do your research first.
If I remember right, 1.53 hboot means you are GSM. If so, I'd start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535987
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ryan4285 said:
Sorry guys but I am despairing I sit at my computer 2 hours today and yesterday and I doesen´t understand thats steps here on a youtube or google so I post these and ask if someone help me here
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Again, what specific steps are you not understanding? We can't help you understand the whole thing...
Lmao wow. Ryan you are a clown. You making me roll on the floor. But seriously, nobody can help you if you don't be specific on what's steps your confused. Otherwise your just embarrassing yourself. We are trying to help you. Help us help you.
Come on guys. We were all noobs at one point so have patience.
Ryan, start at the link I posted and if you have questions, please ask.
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Yes its true we are all noobs at one point in time. Honestly I am not trying to dog on him. We're trying to figure out what he doesn't understand. The poor guy hasn't specified what he's having trouble with. It's hard if we don't have an idea. I am more than willing to lend him my knowledge. Thank you for stepping in and helping Ryan out. I will have more patience in the future. Good luck Ryan.
Here is another noob yD..Well, I had Xperia x10, we had "Flashtool", "s1tool"..and that's it ..You could do whatever you want..I have feeling that this is "same", only other names..But..
I am really trying to understand methods, but whenever I read something more about s-off, I am more confused :/..
Here is what I am trying to understand..
I received official ICS (I have HBOOT 1.53.0007), and I was on HTCDEV site, where I did all steps..and I have ULBL..after that I installed recovery and SU..I want to do S-OFF and here problem begins..I don't know how, and I cannot find how..I mean, I can find, but not for this HBOOT version..Someone says that I should downgrade, someone says that I just have to do "wire trick"..
What is your suggestion..
Thanks!
Ryan the link that coal gave you is more than adequite, it is as straight forward as you can possible get, the only addition to that is s-off is required as you will need to flash a custom firmware package sooner or later, so the wire trick is required. Zink had a great tutorial on how to do it but it has since been deleted. Can I ask, why are you so adamant in rooting your phone? A piece of info as I am a evo gsm owner, all the rom's on the gsm development section suck, either they bootloop, crash or they have missing components.
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[Q] How to install AtrICS ROM

Hi,
I'm an stock brazilian atrix(mb860) owner on version 2.3.6 Stock and Locked. I don't know much for this flashing things, but I really want to have this rom on my device.
But I'm really confused on the procedures... What do I need to do?
Remember that my device is completly stock(locked and no rooted).
Thanks guys.
Hello there fella, please check this thread if you haven't done, it might point you in the right direction
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
I recommend you read it and learn how to do the procedures, as flashing may be an easy thing to do, but if you don't learn, you may end with an expensive brick in your desk.
After you've seen that thread, please don't hesitate to ask
lg100nada said:
Hi,
I'm an stock brazilian atrix(mb860) owner on version 2.3.6 Stock and Locked. I don't know much for this flashing things, but I really want to have this rom on my device.
But I'm really confused on the procedures... What do I need to do?
Remember that my device is completly stock(locked and no rooted).
Thanks guys.
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I suppose the first question is, are you on mac, pc or linux.
But either way... here's the simplified answer.
Your first step is to unlock your boot loader.
It's not hard once you know how.
http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader
Follow the steps EVEN if your on gingerbread.
Then follow this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
There's some other ways to do this on mac too... but that stuff can certainly point you in the right direction....
I hadn't touched a motorola before, and I found it all easy. Bought it literally yesterday and had it all done last nite within an hour.
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If i'd seen this post before I dug thru about 30+ posts last nite and the week before it would have saved me tons of time.
Mind you, I had the benefit of hacking HTC & Samsung in the past so I wasn't a complete noob in need of terminology descriptions. Either way, well done on the post jhonnyx.
jhonnyx said:
Hello there fella, please check this thread if you haven't done, it might point you in the right direction
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
I recommend you read it and learn how to do the procedures, as flashing may be an easy thing to do, but if you don't learn, you may end with an expensive brick in your desk.
After you've seen that thread, please don't hesitate to ask
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