Please, forgive if this post does not go here, sorry!!!
I have a Sony Live Walkman that I bought without any phone company in between. (Sorry my English doesn't help, don't know the exact term for that).
I checked, and it says that it is allowed to unlock bootloader.
But my question is, what is the benefit in my case? I don't have any garbage from any company loaded on my phone, the loader image is from Sony.
I can't grasp really well why is there the need to unlock bootloader. I'm new to Sony, I just had a LG - and the only concern was to ROOT and nothing else.
My Sony is rooted already. Do I need to unlock bootloader? (I'm just repeating myself a lot, lol) - and let's supossed I do unlock it: what happens? what new things I can/cannot do/break/etc?
Thanks a lot in advance for any info you could provide me, I learnt a lot in these last months, and with this Sony things are.... different....
Kisses
Unlocking bootloader lets you install custom kernels and ROMs. If you do it via official way, you lose your guarantee and your DRM keys, that means you will not be able to use TrackID and some other little features. If you patch it via unofficial way (test point method) you lose nothing. Anyway, if you don't intend to change your ROM, don't unlock it
Sorry that I'm a bit slow , but what is the "unofficial way" to do it?
I don't plan to install any custom ROM, but would like to try some new Kernel - and I believe I have to unlock bootloader for that?
I managed to root without unlock it, I wish I could flash a new kernel the same way
Unfortunately, you can't flash custom kernels without unlocking the bootloader. Check THIS thread, you'll find useful information
Well the unofficial way will allow you to keep your drm information and you will be able to keep using the track id app. here is a video of the method you need to follow to unlock it the unofficial way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgYAZoqsk9E, the video it's from fast gsm but it is the basic procedure of the test point method the only difference it's the software you will use and of course that it is free.
Thanks guys, very useful info. Just one last thing, cause one of your responses confused me:
The official method will let me flash Kernel
the UN official method won't
is that right?
Thanks again, promise I'll read all those articles now.
any method will let you flash a custom kernel the only difference is that using the official method you will lose your drm (digital rights management) for protected music, the usage of the track id app and any way of officially update your phone (over the air, ppc or sus) and using the unofficial way (test point method) you will keep the drm, track id and you will be able to update your phone using ppc or sus.
ginryu said:
any method will let you flash a custom kernel the only difference is that using the official method you will lose your drm (digital rights management) for protected music, the usage of the track id app and any way of officially update your phone (over the air, ppc or sus) and using the unofficial way (test point method) you will keep the drm, track id and you will be able to update your phone using ppc or sus.
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Perfectly clear.
Thanks a bunch!
Perfectly welcome!
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
Did official method also.
It is much more simple, just on the computer.
You will loose the track id feature, never used it anyway.
ChicaAndroid said:
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
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Lol... I just tried via test point method, and you know what? Only thing I couldn't do is remove that damn layer covering the test point...
I gave up u.u
ChicaAndroid said:
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
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do it if u really use it atmost.
i think u wish to install custom kernel right?? but not custom rom!! most of the custom kernels support only custom roms only few support stock.
well at the end it's up to you but the test point it's not really that complicated i did it with a paperclip jejeje
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well at the end it's up to you but the test point it's not really that complicated i did it with a paperclip jejeje
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I'm sure of that... but I haven't found a way to uncover the test point yet, lol
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
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I'm sure of that... but I haven't found a way to uncover the test point yet, lol
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The trick is to use a hair dryer to take out the back stick (under the battery) and then you will find the tp I posted a video before.
ChicaAndroid said:
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
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Girl I think I told you before that you can pm if you needed anything right?
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The trick is to use a hair dryer to take out the back stick (under the battery) and then you will find the tp I posted a video before.
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Mmm... Ill try
But does it return to its place once I've finished, or will I have to use glue?
I know, weird question
Feanor88 said:
Mmm... Ill try
But does it return to its place once I've finished, or will I have to use glue?
I know, weird question
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Nah it's not weird i was felling the same way but no you don't have to use glue it will stick back alone, just do it with ease ok??
ChicaAndroid said:
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
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its for u... test point method with detailed discription and video.. go with this LINK
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This question is related to the bootloader problem & the upcoming 2.1 update....Could SE change the way the bootloader works and negate the progress you've made?
Sony Ericsson Xperia X10
since its not yet cracked ...i dont think SE will change the bootloader ...
i am not a dev .. this is what i think... but may be the new 2.1 needs a new bootlaoder ... so anything can happen .. but dev are keeping an eye on SE will loads its stock rom.. that way we can find ways to use to crack bootloader
I hope i can borrow this thread ...
Here's my question: Is there a way to delete certain games and programs that i don't and never will use without rooting my device? I like it the way it is right now, i just don't like that apps i'm not using wasting available space
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I hope i can borrow this thread ...
Here's my question: Is there a way to delete certain games and programs that i don't and never will use without rooting my device? I like it the way it is right now, i just don't like that apps i'm not using wasting available space
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-Root
-Delete games/programs you don't use
-Unroot
-???
-Profit!
I don't see how am i going to profit if i double the work. My question: "is it possible", was meant in this way: is there an app that allows doing this without rooting?
No, the default apps which came with the phone are located in a place which you can only reach when you have root access
Sent from my rooted X10i using tapatalk
oh well ... can i ask which is the easiest way to root my device then?
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oh well ... can i ask which is the easiest way to root my device then?
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One click root method, you literally have to install the .apk then click root. After you remove the programs you don't want, then click unroot. Doesn't get much easier than that
IS this one click method universal or specific from phone to phone? i am asking for my X8. There isn't a thread about this phone yet and because it is part of the same model group i'm asking here.
what?
What is horrible, the devs are days without saying anything about the breaking of the bootloader, we will do with the 10 x?, I begin to think that it is time to change by a HTC
you are the best, I encourage all devs, is that you can with this, I encourage and give them strong these of SE, thanks!
I've looked over some threads, there doesn't exactly seem an easy way to do this. It seems unless youre an expert theres lots of potential mistakes. Will it be easier in the future? The very very last thing I need is to brick my phone, I cant afford that at all.
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I've looked over some threads, there doesn't exactly seem an easy way to do this. It seems unless youre an expert theres lots of potential mistakes. Will it be easier in the future? The very very last thing I need is to brick my phone, I cant afford that at all.
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I'd like to know this as well (especially so since SE warns on their site that unlocking the bootloader of the minis (pro and regular) is unsafe and can lead to bricking if you accept an OTA update)
(yeah, by the way, I joined the flock and bought an SK17I)
Define safe?
Softbrick caused by ota+unlocked bt is np - fxp fota unbrick works.
(search)
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Define safe?
Softbrick caused by ota+unlocked bt is np - fxp fota unbrick works.
(search)
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a search for "fxp fota unbrick" didn't turn up much sorry. Can you be a bit more precise? (since I'm really interested in running stock Xperia ROM and would like to have the upgrades when they come in)
However, I'd like to have root to remove some pesky programs and run some other ones that I've gotten used to...
Root is safe as you read carefully the tutos and respect it. Should be warned about consequences too (have to unlock BL, NO FOTA,...)
Hello everyone.
I tried rooting my Xperia ray today using this guide: http://mytechencounters.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/root-your-xperia-phone-without-voiding-warranty/
Bear with me, you might find all of this tedious to read. My phone came with GB 2.3.4 build .62 which is hard to root. So as the above guide directed, I downloaded a .42 build firmware, CE(Central Europe perhaps? I don't know) and tried to flash it using flashtool. I disconnected the phone from the PC in between. My phone wouldn't boot. Then I used SUS and updated it to ICS, making the phone work. I then flashed it to GB .42 patiently, and with success. Alas, problems started immediately. Many processes such as media, calender storage, acro etc came up as stopped working. Even after selecting force close they would keep appearing. I cleared the respective cache/data and the notifications stopped. Then I rooted it using Doomlord's toolkit, and updated to .62 via OTA, keeping my root. A few things have changed. The keyboard name is the same, International keyboard, but it is different and I don't like it. Camera is not working. Screen goes blank if I open the camera. Messaging does not work and the messaging app crashes as soon as I open it. No contacts are found, despite importing them again. (They all show up when using the import from SIM option, it says importing is done but they are nowhere to be found). I called someone manually. While calling his name shows up but my contacts is completely blank. Google search is not working and it crashes too. There might be other problems, but I haven't checked. Anything in particular to check? Please help me solve all these issues. I'm glad my phone is rooted now, but it's next to useless due to all this. Please help me.
Great. Even the screen unlock security seems to not work. No slide to unlock. No pattern unlock even though I saved a pattern. I press the power button, the phone just shows the home. No security. How do I fix all this? PC Companion? SUS? And I don't want ICS so I won't use them if that's what they're going to update my phone to rather than fix it.
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
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Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
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No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
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Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
Androman117 said:
Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
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Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
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Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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For me it's better than gingerbread, but I don't often play games on phone, only somteims, but the games are going well :good:
The rom is only for unlocked bootloader and I didn't upload, but another member in development section did
No I'm not using any mods or tweaks, just sd maid to clean my sd sometimes, but jellybean is running smooth without any tweaks
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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I think you have gotten a lot of good advice from Mihahn and I just wanted to add some suggestions before you unlock your bootloader...you probably want to get comfortable working with CWM Recovery. It has been a while since I did this on GB but there are a bunch of tools that you can use to put recovery onto GB stock roms and a good place to start is this thread in Ray Dev: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426912
Also before you decide you just gotta have a certain ROM, take a good look at the OP for the ROM....there may be something not working correctly that would be a deal breaker for you....there are some features that only work properly on a stock based ROM. This is particularly true of the Jelly Bean 4.2 build for the Ray....the 4.1 ROMs are working pretty good.....but if you absolutely love the sony camera app then you have to stay on a stock ROM.
Have fun!
So my mom got this version which seems isnt in any of the kits and scripts dint work on it..
All I want is to root, which from my understanding means I need to unlock bootloader, I do prefer team win recovery, and to install CM.
I looked for a thread but found non, any chance for help and guidence?
TY
P.s
Also people keep writing ftf, which im not sure what it means, and a C6602/3 nersion which I cant find in my "about"
Caniv said:
So my mom got this version which seems isnt in any of the kits and scripts dint work on it..
All I want is to root, which from my understanding means I need to unlock bootloader, I do prefer team win recovery, and to install CM.
I looked for a thread but found non, any chance for help and guidence?
TY
P.s
Also people keep writing ftf, which im not sure what it means, and a C6602/3 nersion which I cant find in my "about"
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I think 10.1.1.A.1.253 is an earlier version. Mine was bought about 2 months ago and it came with 10.1.1.A.307. You can try Doomlord's root method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2333566). It works for me, albeit on 307.
Caniv said:
So my mom got this version which seems isnt in any of the kits and scripts dint work on it..
All I want is to root, which from my understanding means I need to unlock bootloader, I do prefer team win recovery, and to install CM.
I looked for a thread but found non, any chance for help and guidence?
TY
P.s
Also people keep writing ftf, which im not sure what it means, and a C6602/3 nersion which I cant find in my "about"
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All the information can be found in this forum if you look for it...
If you're asking such basic questions, I'd just leave things alone or you're heading for disaster (and risk upsetting your mom at the same time by voiding her warranty & loosing all the Sony DRM keys)
Hey guys, You may have noticed that ive been posting a few posts here and there and I also have a YouTube Channel Which is JackHasAnLG
Im going to start making more Xperia Z Ultra videos soon, Ive already got this one
Just a quick Unboxing
Reviews, Custom Roms and more to come, let me know if theres anything in specific you want to see
J
Cool stuff, we need one!
shaolin95 said:
Cool stuff, we need one!
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Yay someone commented!
Anything in particular? Obviously got the Unboxing and benchmarks, hoping to get the Sony magnetic dock and I have a S Case for it
mmmmm not sure, I used to have a Note 1 channel showing things others werent showing at the time like PS3 connectivity to run emulators, etc.
Maybe small videos showing people how easy it is to use the PS3 controller with it, some of the small apps that maybe people is not familar with to show what the phone can do before being big!
Car holder, etc.
Maybe others will give more ideas but surely testing new ROMS will give you a nice following for people that prefer to wait before flashing new stuff
Oh a maybe some detailed flashing guide. .....hey you ask for more
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mmmmm not sure, I used to have a Note 1 channel showing things others werent showing at the time like PS3 connectivity to run emulators, etc.
Maybe small videos showing people how easy it is to use the PS3 controller with it, some of the small apps that maybe people is not familar with to show what the phone can do before being big!
Car holder, etc.
Maybe others will give more ideas but surely testing new ROMS will give you a nice following for people that prefer to wait before flashing new stuff
Oh a maybe some detailed flashing guide. .....hey you ask for more
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Aha brilliant! It just so happens I have a PS3 controller
Ill have to get to work with some of these ideas, I wish more people would look at the thread and comment, its like a ghost time with the device
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Aha brilliant! It just so happens I have a PS3 controller
Ill have to get to work with some of these ideas, I wish more people would look at the thread and comment, its like a ghost time with the device
J
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I'd love it if you can take a look at the rooting 290 with a locked bootloader thread and make a video detailing the process from recovery up until it is fully functioning - so all the flashing, wiping, etc.
Thanks so much.
hassanmahmood said:
I'd love it if you can take a look at the rooting 290 with a locked bootloader thread and make a video detailing the process from recovery up until it is fully functioning - so all the flashing, wiping, etc.
Thanks so much.
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Ill try and get around it to!
Although im not sure you can unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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Ill try and get around it to!
Although im not sure you can unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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I'm talking about the method for a locked bootloader.
Upgrading to a pre rooted .290 Rom whilst maintaining a locked bootloader
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I'm talking about the method for a locked bootloader.
Upgrading to a pre rooted .290 Rom whilst maintaining a locked bootloader
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Oh okay Rooting 4.3 with a locked bootloader, cool
Are there any methods to un-root? as I havent looked and once im rooted ill un root and do a video of that, plus i have no need for root at this point
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Oh okay Rooting 4.3 with a locked bootloader, cool
Are there any methods to un-root? as I havent looked and once im rooted ill un root and do a video of that, plus i have no need for root at this point
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I successfully unrooted 532 by simply going into SuperSU and choosing to uninstall through there.
Not sure if the same applies to .290 - but I can't imagine why it wouldn't?
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I successfully unrooted 532 by simply going into SuperSU and choosing to uninstall through there.
Not sure if the same applies to .290 - but I can't imagine why it wouldn't?
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Thats true, I forgot about the SU app letting you un root via it, its pretty cool is that really worth a video though? haha
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Thats true, I forgot about the SU app letting you un root via it, its pretty cool is that really worth a video though? haha
J
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I think that's pretty straightforward - unless you get bored and want an additional video to add to the collection. lol.
I've been following the methods posted in the Locked BL rooted 290 thread - just not familiar with flashing to the extent I'd like which is why I was hoping for a video that goes through the process step-by-step from rooting .532, to installing recovery, to all the flashing and ultimately to having a fully working pre-rooted .290 ROM without any boot loops or booting issues.
You could technically start from the downgrading from .290 part if you wanted to make it a complete overview - but I think most people are able to downgrade from .290 to .532 without a problem - the complications arise when trying to go back to a rooted .290
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I think that's pretty straightforward - unless you get bored and want an additional video to add to the collection. lol.
I've been following the methods posted in the Locked BL rooted 290 thread - just not familiar with flashing to the extent I'd like which is why I was hoping for a video that goes through the process step-by-step from rooting .532, to installing recovery, to all the flashing and ultimately to having a fully working pre-rooted .290 ROM without any boot loops or booting issues.
You could technically start from the downgrading from .290 part if you wanted to make it a complete overview - but I think most people are able to downgrade from .290 to .532 without a problem - the complications arise when trying to go back to a rooted .290
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I dont see why sony make it so hard. I had a galaxy S3 beforehand, a nexus 4 and even my older LG 2X just plugged into a computer, USB debugging and a piece of software and that was it