Ok I see that there are a couple of similar threads to this and I apologize in advance but I'm not sure exactly how to correctly interpret some of the answers on those threads...so I'm gonna start my own and see who can help lol. Once again I'm sorry if this new thread is considered obsolete by some or all.
I have a Motorola droid razr. Not the maxx just the standard razr. When I got my phone I started looking into rooting it after seeing one of my friends with a rooted thunderbolt. I successfully rooted my razr after doing a lot of research. I installed Titanium (not pro) and undelete. I'm fairly certain that I made a backup of everything on my phone shortly after installing Titanium Backup. Well through the course of tinkering around with my phone a bit I deleted certain files here and there that I considered useless or annoying to me that they were on my phone in the first place. Well when the upgrade to jellybean came out I tried to do a software update. It finishes, reboots my phone, then says the update was unsuccessful.
After some research I have realized that I probably deleted something that was important (lol yeah I'm an idiot) and so it wont let me update the software because of that. I realize that I could use titanium to restore those files but I have NO idea what files I deleted that were important. And I'm not all that comfortable with TB to just mess with it freely. TB has been something that I have used very little because I know I could probably cause some serious damage to my phone with it haha. I haven't done a factory reset because I know already that it wouldn't bring those files back.
If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it. I'm not a very technical person so I probably shouldn't have rooted in the first place but I tried my hardest to do the research first. Thanks in advance for the help everyone
vetchemh3 said:
Ok I see that there are a couple of similar threads to this and I apologize in advance but I'm not sure exactly how to correctly interpret some of the answers on those threads...so I'm gonna start my own and see who can help lol. Once again I'm sorry if this new thread is considered obsolete by some or all.
I have a Motorola droid razr. Not the maxx just the standard razr. When I got my phone I started looking into rooting it after seeing one of my friends with a rooted thunderbolt. I successfully rooted my razr after doing a lot of research. I installed Titanium (not pro) and undelete. I'm fairly certain that I made a backup of everything on my phone shortly after installing Titanium Backup. Well through the course of tinkering around with my phone a bit I deleted certain files here and there that I considered useless or annoying to me that they were on my phone in the first place. Well when the upgrade to jellybean came out I tried to do a software update. It finishes, reboots my phone, then says the update was unsuccessful.
After some research I have realized that I probably deleted something that was important (lol yeah I'm an idiot) and so it wont let me update the software because of that. I realize that I could use titanium to restore those files but I have NO idea what files I deleted that were important. And I'm not all that comfortable with TB to just mess with it freely. TB has been something that I have used very little because I know I could probably cause some serious damage to my phone with it haha. I haven't done a factory reset because I know already that it wouldn't bring those files back.
If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it. I'm not a very technical person so I probably shouldn't have rooted in the first place but I tried my hardest to do the research first. Thanks in advance for the help everyone
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So does anyone have any suggestions??
im not sure about this particular phone but search for the SBF file for your phone model and how to use RSDLite. this is how to restore Motorola phones.
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It's never a good idea to do an OTA update over a rooted phone.
You should just download a rooted stock ROM from the dev forum (a 4.1 ROM) and flash it via your recovery (flash the zip file) or another custom ROM, they have some good ones!
OR I would just flash stock THEN do the OTA update, because whatever rooting method you used (I don't have that phone so I'm not sure) probably replaced your kernel with an insecure one or your system.img so you're failing the OTA update.
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It's never a good idea to do an OTA update over a rooted phone.
You should just download a rooted stock ROM from the dev forum (a 4.1 ROM) and flash it via your recovery (flash the zip file) or another custom ROM, they have some good ones!
OR I would just flash stock THEN do the OTA update, because whatever rooting method you used (I don't have that phone so I'm not sure) probably replaced your kernel with an insecure one or your system.img so you're failing the OTA update.
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this is a good point. i would only do the SBF if you can't get into custom recovery.
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OP I moved you, here into your device forum Q&A for more visibility from actual users for your device. Thank you.
just try to flash a stock ROM using RSD, and then take the OTA update.
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gregeorgeraldo said:
just try to flash a stock ROM using RSD, and then take the OTA update.
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Ok I'm not gonna lie that sounds like a different language to me haha. I know I probably shouldn't have done all this without really knowing exactly what i was doing but I'm sure im not the first lol. What exactly is RSD and when I flash the razr stock ROM will it erase anything I already have save on my phone? Sorry I'm not the most intelligent when it comes to stuff like this haha
gregeorgeraldo said:
just try to flash a stock ROM using RSD, and then take the OTA update.
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Is this a good source and video that might explain this to me a little better? I havent posted 10 times so i cant use the link but its a video on youtube called How to use fastboot files to return Droid Razr back to Android 2.3.5! It's the first vid that comes up. has about 9,300 views and was posted 7 months ago. I think my RAZR was on ice cream sandwich (not gingerbread) but it should be the same i guess? Thanks in advance everyone
The reason I suggest just flashing a custom ROM thru your recovery is once you RSD stock then do the OTA you're just going to want to root again and maybe flash a better custom ROM.
Just flash a CM10 ROM from the dev forum and see how you like it, it's jellybean with tons more options that the stock ROM.
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The reason I suggest just flashing a custom ROM thru your recovery is once you RSD stock then do the OTA you're just going to want to root again and maybe flash a better custom ROM.
Just flash a CM10 ROM from the dev forum and see how you like it, it's jellybean with tons more options that the stock ROM.
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The main issue i'm having is that after i rooted my phone flashing custom roms was pretty much the only aspect i didnt get into, so i'm not comfortable in the least with doing it. So just flashing a new rom might be a little strange for me. If i flash the stock rom will i lose everything i have? Like all my apps and pictures and info? And will it unroot my phone?? And if that video i posted above will work should i just try it that way?
I'm sorry to keep posting but I'm just trying to get some specific answers and I feel like if my thread falls too far down it will be forgotten lol. But that video title that I posted...does anyone know if that could be a viable solution? And if it isn't could someone explain. To me how to flash the stock rom so i can upgrade to ics. I don't think the razr has jellybean yet if I'm not mistaken
It sounds like you might be missing some of the stock apps. I had a similar problem while following the same upgrade path as you. I have a Verizon XT912 (standard RAZR) I'm lookin for a link to send you that helped with the issue...but basically there are several apps that would seem non-essential like Slacker radio or NFL Mobile that seem to have caused people trouble. If your update is failing at 30% or somewhere in the middle, this might be the problem. If this sounds like it could be it, Ill try and find the post that helped me find what I was missing.
watch your phone during the update, make sure its not actually cancelling and booting normally because of this error.
Do you know what version you were on before things happened? GB or ICS? You always use this utility just to start over and get back to stock. You could do like people are saying and get the files but this is easier. There is a version for either GB or ICS. Just need to get into AP Fast Boot mode and follow the directions. Also assume this is the Cdma phone? Here is something similar.
I would just start all over and flash.Make sure if you can that your phone is charged before starting.
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Do you know what version you were on before things happened? GB or ICS? You always use this utility just to start over and get back to stock. You could do like people are saying and get the files but this is easier. There is a version for either GB or ICS. Just need to get into AP Fast Boot mode and follow the directions. Also assume this is the Cdma phone? Here is something similar.
I would just start all over and flash.Make sure if you can that your phone is charged before starting.
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I'm on gingerbread 2.3.6. So i can just go to the bootloader menu and use AP fast boot to do what? I'm a little confused lol sorry
So does anyone have any explanation? The only reason i'm so desperate is because i'm planning on potentially selling my razr for the note 2 and i cant do that if its unable to perform this update/missing apps/etc.. lol. please help
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Hello,
I am getting a bit confused with all the threads and I really don't want to mess up my phone. I have rooted it and my background is the Xperia X10, on Rogers too. I would like to test out some different ROMs or maybe even the ICS Rom that just came out from the EternityProject team. However, if I understood, there is no way to revert back to stock since we have a locked bootloader. Can anyone could just guide me to threads step by step? I read the tutorial to flash the Arctic Rom, but I am not sure what to do. Is the bootstrap recovery this? If so I guess I can go from there... I was a bit scared since it was saying unofficial. Would it work for Rogers Canada? Most of the things I see are for US or Europe.. Please help me out, would be much appreciated!
I just reread the bootstrap thread.. Having a question regarding this. There is a note stating that you can only access it through Android.. I am guessing I need to reinstall the bootstrap everytime I flash a ROM.. right? Sorry, pretty lost. Thanks for any help! I just feel like it was wayyy easier with my X10..
I came from the X10 on rogers too!, I seems the X10 was way easier to understand and mod. I am so lost with all this motorola stuff too!
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Hey there guys, well I would advise not to flash anything unless you have at least a ClockWork backup of your phone after you rooted and installed the bootstrap recovery. The bootstrap recovery is an .apk file which you install and run from the phone itself not in recovery mode like most other unlocked bootloaders.
I'm holding off myself because there is no full flash file from Rogers as of yet, the closest one is the Brazil Xt910 flash using RDSlite. Still if you flash that if something goes wrong with your tweaking you won't get the CSC files from the Rogers Rom unless I guess you back them up. I'm not quite sure if you can actually pull the csc files from the rogers and port it over but it's worth a try if your daring.
At the moment I'm content with root and backing up the system folders and other partitions just in case something goes wrong, remember to backup your efs as well.
Thx for ur input gdmuscle, makes more sense now. I might risk it once there is a stable Ice Cream Sandwich ROM. I admit for now it is kind of useless to risk that much with the lack of ROM choices. Much appreciated!
And Chriskwan, yea, was much easier with the X10 lol. Good to see some canadians feeling the same way! Btw I am in contact with Moto to see when the update should arrive at Rogers.. Will make a thread if i get an update
After playing around with a Rogers Droid Razr the past 3-4 days trying to figure out ROMs and such, I can safely say I will never actually BUY this device.
There is WAY more community support for the Galaxy S2, and it is a lot easier to manage. Flashing via odin, is MUCH simpler. The stupid fastboot crap is annoying.
well for the razr its much easier than using odin i can assure u that...
1. get the root package and root your phone ... its a simple script u run and it does the rest...
2. get bootstrap.apk and cwm-on-boot.zip ... put the cwm zip in the root of your sd card (external sd)... install the bootstrap ... reboot into your recovery using the app... and then install the cwm on boot zip...
3. make nandroid backup (mad slow)
4. get the deodexed rom needed for arctic... wipe, install that
5. install Arctic...
thats the condensed guide ofcourse... just a few setup steps u need to follow...
As opposed to what? Running SuperOneClick? Because that is all I did and it worked perfectly for my Galaxy S Captivate.
I should mention that just gives me root, but from there installing CWM was relatively easy, and there is nothing more complicated.
The Razr is a great device, but it is to me a PITA compared to the Galaxy S series in terms of Android Development.
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Hey there guys, well I would advise not to flash anything unless you have at least a ClockWork backup of your phone after you rooted and installed the bootstrap recovery. The bootstrap recovery is an .apk file which you install and run from the phone itself not in recovery mode like most other unlocked bootloaders.
I'm holding off myself because there is no full flash file from Rogers as of yet, the closest one is the Brazil Xt910 flash using RDSlite. Still if you flash that if something goes wrong with your tweaking you won't get the CSC files from the Rogers Rom unless I guess you back them up. I'm not quite sure if you can actually pull the csc files from the rogers and port it over but it's worth a try if your daring.
At the moment I'm content with root and backing up the system folders and other partitions just in case something goes wrong, remember to backup your efs as well.
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I wish i read that before i started to mess with my phone. I used a tutorial to try to add a custom rom to my phone and read people with rogers with success but i guess i was one of those who messed up. Now my phone just turns on and stays at the motorola screen
can either of you post the backup file of your rogers ROM
Yes that would be very useful to try
where is the efs folder?
Is it possible for anyone to create/point me to a downloadable stock ROM? I mean literally STOCK, as in, nothing changed. I think that might be the only way for me to get back to being able to receive OTA updates without fastbooting (which I have tried to no avail).
Thanks!
there you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416058
Yeah, see...fastboot doesn't work for me - already tried it a bunch of times. For some odd reason. I mean, does someone have a stock ROOTED ROM I could flash. As in, something with all apps preserved as if the device were not rooted. That way, I can take the OTA update (and break root, but at this point I just don't want to be trapped in OS 2.3.5 forever). Thanks (again)!
Are you able to access stock recovery?
Yes, I am. Will that help?
on my maxx, having the same issue as you, i factory restored, i guess that might have replaced/fix any corrupt files and i was able to fastboot. Unfortunately, i speak from personal experience and not knowledge of the operating system. good luck.
I did a factory data reset and it did not fix the problem, sadly. Looks like I'm in a hole with no ladder out lol. I can always hope that a stock rooted ROM is available so I can use my recently-recovered root to flash and then take the OTA over that, if possible.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/457-rom-totally-stock-rooted-748/page__pid__14816#entry14816
Link is dead; they're looking to fix it though I think. Thanks though! I'll give it a shot.
If you can take the update, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492708 can root the new 2.3.6
Doomlords method still can unroot if need be.
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Thanks! I'll keep it in mind. Right now I'm looking for a way to be able to get the update though
Yeah I'm in the same boat. Need this link to work!!! Can someone please post another working link?
http://forum.eternityproject.eu/mot...f7/official-motorola-razr-roms-thread-t4.html
I hope this helps
I think we just need a stock ROM, not the OTA. We can't flash the OTA (even an older one) like a ROM, right?
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I think we just need a stock ROM, not the OTA. We can't flash the OTA (even an older one) like a ROM, right?
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That is the stock rom. The second post includes 2 stock versions and 2 OTA. Just download the stock Rom. Atleast i think thats a flashable ROM
Theres this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362956
Is the only option to flash these via adb and rsd lite?
Question: (rather than creating new thread)
what's the different between ROM and Fastboot files? Examples?
Coz i downloaded Brazil.en fastboot, use RSD Lite, and flashed my GSM Rogers RAZR. works great.
But i also have SafeStrap installed, and I can make backup (and restore) from it. Are those ROMs? Or just backup files?
I thought people flash their phones using mod ROMs using CWM/Safestrap too?
I know OTA is over-the-air, but u can also download and manually install "OTA" updates? so... are they OTA ROM then?
or just OTA "files". like backup files CWM made?
thx for explanations
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Is the only option to flash these via adb and rsd lite?
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That was the way I did it, Ive read about a few others like;
motofail
DroidRAZRUtility1.4LITE
vulnfactory.org/blog/2012/02/11/rooting-the-droid-4-a-failed-bounty-experiment/
But flashing with RSDlite was how I did it and it worked fine, just wish I had the original ROM with all the bloatware just in case....
Yeah, see for some reason fastboot doesn't like me, which is why I'm trying to get ahold of a complete stock ROM lol. I know that fastboot *works* all the time, but rather than go through the hassle I was just hoping someone had a spare total stock ROM floating around haha
Hi All -
New to this phone obviously (RAZR MAXX). Trying to get a grasp on it, as it's way more complicated than HTC and Samsung phones. I've rooted and installed 100s of custom ROMs with those brands before. This is my 1st Motorola since the Motorola V120c if anyone is old enough to remember that dinosaur. On nTelos' network nonetheless.
I have some questions that I would like answered and I hope someone will do me the honor as the content is really sporadic.
What is Fastboot for this device, what does it do?
Safestrap & Bootstrap? What's the difference? Which is better?
Can I flash ROMS through CWM like I have in the past?
What purpose does RSD Lite serve other than to flash Fasboot files?
Why would I want to flash fastboot? (Redundant question I think)
Thanks to anyone that takes the time to help me out.
I rooted and flash the crap out of my last phone which was Samsung. This phone seems really complex. I'm really on my toes, don't want to brick my phone. But I do want to root to get rid of the bloatware and test out some roms. The stock OS is laggy at times.
Honestly I really like the Stock OS as is. It does seem laggy at times, but nothing worse than I've run into on HTC or Samsung phones.
HTC Sense UI was/is terrible since it's so bloated and Samsung couldn't make a GPS radio capable of locating a mall let alone provide directions to anywhere. Terrible phones.
So far this phone is awesome, really bought it for the battery life honestly.
I too would like to DELETE the garbage that Verizon has installed on this thing. In terms of bloat, Verizon takes it to a whole new level. Just wow.
I'm in the same boat. Only had the phone for 2 days so far. I've already rooted it, but haven't gone any farther. But in some of my reading, I thought I saw that removing the bloatware can cause OTA updates to not happen. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on that issue.
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I'm in the same boat. Only had the phone for 2 days so far. I've already rooted it, but haven't gone any farther. But in some of my reading, I thought I saw that removing the bloatware can cause OTA updates to not happen. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on that issue.
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I rooted mine 5 mins after activating it haha. As far a bloat, just use titanium pro and freeze it. Very simple. I froze around 35 apps and haven't had any issues associated w it. Should an ota come I should be prompted still. Just unfreeze all apps. Accept ota, reroot. If it breaks root completly then eventually it will get root again. I actually Ind, e system to run very well but honestly have no idea how just stock runs as I froze these apps instantly. I did not safe strap or bootstrap but I had previous knowledge of things I should be able to freeze and not and I figured it out myself
I find this phone so easy. There YouTube videos on everything.
To Get bootstrap, all you need to do is press one button, this phone has to be the easiest I've been on. The only people that struggle are the desperate ones that cba to search the forums And YouTube
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Hi All -
What is Fastboot for this device, what does it do?
Safestrap & Bootstrap? What's the difference? Which is better?
Can I flash ROMS through CWM like I have in the past?
What purpose does RSD Lite serve other than to flash Fasboot files?
Why would I want to flash fastboot? (Redundant question I think)
Thanks to anyone that takes the time to help me out.
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- Fastboot: its just the stock bootloader, can flash moto updates/factory reset/wipe cache. it also lets you into AP fastboot, which is where u recover stock with rsd.
- Safestrap/bootstrap: bootstrap is currently our only way of CWM on the gsm phones, i understand safestrap is pretty much like dualbooting except its not(only its not completely compatible with gsm)
- can you flash with cwm: YES!
- another purpose for rsd: i have only used it for recovering after ics, so idk.
- why flash a fastboot image?: if you mess up badly or get a bootloop you can recover back to stock
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I'm in the same boat. Only had the phone for 2 days so far. I've already rooted it, but haven't gone any farther. But in some of my reading, I thought I saw that removing the bloatware can cause OTA updates to not happen. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on that issue.
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removing bloatware will cause you to be unable to get ota's (freezing and then unfreezing with TiB before ota update works fine, as long as you don't uninstall).
but i think its enough to just flash a fastboot with rsd (fully return to stock), then you can get the ota
Look here:
aashrey99razr.wordpress.com
Helped me out a lot!
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Addictd said:
removing bloatware will cause you to be unable to get ota's (freezing and then unfreezing with TiB before ota update works fine, as long as you don't uninstall).
but i think its enough to just flash a fastboot with rsd (fully return to stock), then you can get the ota
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I'm afraid I deleted one app before I was aware of this. TiB shows that I made a backup of it, but doesn't give me the option to restore it. Guess I'm screwed.
hehe, probably not
did you make a cwm backup prior to uninstalling the app(s)?
then you could just restore that
if not the titanium backup file should be on your internal sdcard in /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup as a gzipped .apk with a kinda cryptic filename
you could try ungzipping it and installing with a file explorer.
or you could just backup with cwm and flash the correct fastbootimage for your phone from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362956
usind rsd lite
and that should do it
but why not just flash a fastboot and isntall arctic 3.0.5?
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hehe, probably not
did you make a cwm backup prior to uninstalling the app(s)?
then you could just restore that
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Of course not, that would be too easy
if not the titanium backup file should be on your internal sdcard in /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup as a gzipped .apk with a kinda cryptic filename
you could try ungzipping it and installing with a file explorer.
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There is a file there, but it doesn't have an .apk. There's a gzip file, inside that is a tar file. In there are imbedded data directories, but no actual files.
or you could just backup with cwm and flash the correct fastbootimage for your phone from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362956
usind rsd lite
and that should do it
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Might take that route when the next update is ready.
But why not just flash a fastboot and isntall arctic 3.0.5?
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Well, as I said, I only got the phone Saturday, and I work weekends.
But I've got an issue hooking up to my work email account. I was unable to get it working on my Touchpad using CM7 or CM9. I originally bought a Galaxy Nexus and had no luck with that either, thus I bought the Razr. I still can't get the native apps to work, but at least Touchdown semi-works (no Activesync). So I'm actually a little gun shy about trying new things.
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- Safestrap/bootstrap: bootstrap is currently our only way of CWM on the gsm phones, i understand safestrap is pretty much like dualbooting except its not(only its not completely compatible with gsm)
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Does that mean that we can't use ROM Manager or do we just need to use Bootstrap to install CWM and than use ROM Manager like we otherwise would? I got used to that app on my old phone.
I got a GSM RAZR and I have just rooted, the root script pushed in my phone some app called Bionic Bootstrapper, which gives me options Bootstrap Recovery and Reboot Recovery, what does each of them do? I don't plan on changing ROMs for now, but I definitely need to be able to recover the system.
It appears there isn't any real root on this device since the bootloader is locked. Samsung and HTC devices have their BLs unlocked so it's easier to make a permanent Recovery that will persist on reboot. I'm speculating of course, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Reboot recovery should reboot the phone to a ClockworkMod style "DOS" menu that allows you to preform functions like Back up, install zip files or even a new ROM.
When I did it, it rebooted a triangle and exclamation point, with an android guy on it. I was worried at that point. I hit the power button and the Recovery loaded instantly. Not sure if that's normal, but it's quite shakey compared to other devices out there.
I love this phone, so don't me wrong. It's just going to take some getting used to.
i dont think all of rom managers functions will work :/
bootstrap recovery: installs recovery (you only have to do this once)
reboot recovery: reboots your phone into cwm
the thing is the bootloader is locked, so we cant put cwm into the stock fastboot.
there is however a little workaround made by J.Y.Daddy that starts cwm everytime you boot, but this is installed in your rom, not in the stock fastboot, so you have to reinstall it when you flash a new rom :/
onboot cwm link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385283
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i dont think all of rom managers functions will work :/
bootstrap recovery: installs recovery (you only have to do this once)
reboot recovery: reboots your phone into cwm
the thing is the bootloader is locked, so we cant put cwm into the stock fastboot.
there is however a little workaround made by J.Y.Daddy that starts cwm everytime you boot, but this is installed in your rom, not in the stock fastboot, so you have to reinstall it when you flash a new rom :/
onboot cwm link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385283
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Is there some way to otherwise boot into CWM enviroment, some combination of keys or something like on other phones? Not much use for CWM if you brick your phone and can't boot into it. Also, is installed CWM not going to cause a problem for regular OTA updates and do we need to reinstall it afterwards?
From what I understood, Motorola has put some sort of recovery environment on this phone already, but I don't know what it can be used for.
And I have GSM version, bootloader is not locked, so I don't have to worry about that.
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Is there some way to otherwise boot into CWM enviroment, some combination of keys or something like on other phones?
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there's a workaround by J.Y.Darry that makes it boot into cwm on every boot.
there is no keycombo for cwm booting. but you can boot into fastboot with both volumekeys + power
where you can go into stock "recovery" and AP fastboot
you will use AP fastboot in combination with RSD lite to flash back to stock if u mess up, there are also more options in fastboot, but i have never used them.
laserburn said:
Not much use for CWM if you brick your phone and can't boot into it. Also, is installed CWM not going to cause a problem for regular OTA updates and do we need to reinstall it afterwards?
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you will use cwm to flash custom roms and make backups
then if you mess up and want to recover a backup you have to
- set phone in ap fastboot mode
- connect razr to computer
- use rsd lite(or an alternative flashtool) to flash the fastbootfile for your phone
- root and install bootstrapper
- reboot into cwm and restore backup
i dont think cwm in itself will cause any problems for OTA's. but if you install a custom rom its a different story
as long as you have the bootstrapper app installed on your phone, you should be able to bootstrap recovery and boot into cwm
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From what I understood, Motorola has put some sort of recovery environment on this phone already, but I don't know what it can be used for.
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yes they have put a rudimentary recovery in it. but you can only use it to apply updates from sdcard (to manually download ota and install), wipe and factory reset. (someone correct me if i'm wrong here)
laserburn said:
And I have GSM version, bootloader is not locked, so I don't have to worry about that.
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sorry to be the bringer of bad news. but i have gsm too. mine is locked, so i'm pretty solid your bl is too
troollolotorola -.-
Damn, how I miss my old phone where rooting was 1 click on the app and you could swap ROMs as easy as swapping socks.
How could I check if the bootloader is locked and what consequences does it have?
laserburn said:
Damn, how I miss my old phone where rooting was 1 click on the app and you could swap ROMs as easy as swapping socks.
How could I check if the bootloader is locked and what consequences does it have?
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Yeah I agree with you. Rooting, flashing, CWM all 100 times easier on HTC and Samsung phones.
Don't get wrong though, I Love my RAZR Maxx, and the default OS is actually OK. Which is good because it seems that there is little to zero developement for the CDMA version of the droid RAZR/MAXX at the moment, if at all.
they're all over on the HTC/Sammy forums =D
laserburn said:
Damn, how I miss my old phone where rooting was 1 click on the app and you could swap ROMs as easy as swapping socks.
How could I check if the bootloader is locked and what consequences does it have?
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if/when we get the BL unlocked this phone will be a dream
there is this utility made by mattlgrof u can use to check bl lock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486718
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Yeah I agree with you. Rooting, flashing, CWM all 100 times easier on HTC and Samsung phones.
Don't get wrong though, I Love my RAZR Maxx, and the default OS is actually OK. Which is good because it seems that there is little to zero developement for the CDMA version of the droid RAZR/MAXX at the moment, if at all.
they're all over on the HTC/Sammy forums =D
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Ain't no agruing with that, but they don't make as sweet looking and solid phones i hope motorola pull their head out of their ass soon...
Development for the cdma version is found mostly on droidrzr.com (plenty of beta/alpha ICS and some GB roms) but they are missing some parts, so we have to wait till motorola release ics be4 they will be complete.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/index
for all you non-cdma users out there, u should check out the cdma to gsm patch
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/1233-cdma-port-cm9aokp-givesomelovetogsm/
So I've been having issues lately with my update some time ago to official Rogers ICS 4.0.4. The issue is my root access. I had root access on 2.3.6 and everything functioned perfectly. However when I updated to ICS I sort of lost root. Why I say sort of, is because root files like su are still present but not functioning correctly. When I try to gain root access SuperSU tells me my su file is out of date. Also when I try to modify su in any way it gives me access denied. pedrotorresfilho being the good fellow that he is has been helping point me in the right direction as to what is happening. I just figured instead of bombarding his private messages with multi-questions I would post my troubles here in the hopes of gaining some more insight into the issue.
I now know that apparently my su file is damaged (was kind of obvious). Pedro has directed me to the path of factory reset/flashing the TIM.BR rom via RSD Lite. Keep in mind that I am still very much a n00b with linux/android. I AM learning, but slowly. I've been reading post after post here on xda and have actually learned quite a bit so far, yay. I now know what RSD Lite is and what it is used for. Haven't dared try it yet though. ANYHOW. I am wondering if when I do flash this LATAM rom and totally wipe my phone, can I somehow install a stock rogers ROM overtop? I do realize that there are no fastboot files for Rogers and that the BR version will suspositly flash on rogers razrs just fine. I'm just a little skeptical as to the aftermath. I don't want to lose any functionality. I've heard of people having txt message issues or data connection problems etc. Also I suppose I would lose the use of apps like Rogers My Account. This I can probably look past, it's the major issues I need to dodge.
I basically just want to gain my root access again and update to Rogers JB and keep root via OTA Rootkeeper. I don't know if that is even possible with my current broken su status. I don't know if I should just maybe say goodbye to rogers stock and go the Cyanogen mod route?
ANY opinions/tips for this whole scenario would be MUCH APPRECIATED! Thanks!
tbh, i didnt read it all, its too long lol.... sorry.
but here's what i know (assuming u have an XT910)
1. u can fastboot rogers ICS using RSD lite. super easy.
2. u can fastboot LATAM ICS using RSD lite. also super easy.
3. u can also fastboot rogers JB using RSD lite 6.0. easy and best - but remember so far there's no root and u CANT go back to ICS.
ICS files: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_spyder/list.php
JB files: check RAZR development forum, one of the sticky by pzyduck.
R3dbeaver said:
tbh, i didnt read it all, its too long lol.... sorry.
but here's what i know (assuming u have an XT910)
1. u can fastboot rogers ICS using RSD lite. super easy.
2. u can fastboot LATAM ICS using RSD lite. also super easy.
3. u can also fastboot rogers JB using RSD lite 6.0. easy and best - but remember so far there's no root and u CANT go back to ICS.
ICS files: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_spyder/list.php
JB files: check RAZR development forum, one of the sticky by pzyduck.
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Ya I tend to ramble on sometimes, no apology needed. In fact I should thank you! This is defiantly a step in the right direction and hopefully the solution I need. As I said before being the n00b that I am to this stuff I already screwed up my phone once. I believe I was trying to use RSD Lite and flash one of those ROM files. Perhaps I used the wrong one, I don't know. All I know is it failed and I was stuck in fastboot failure. I did fix this with an empty radio img, but I don't want to have the same issues again.
Is there anything I need to do before I do this? Also are there any good n00b oriented tutorials related to using RSD Lite to 'fastboot'? THANKS AGAIN!
EDIT: Once again Pedro has come through with more info for me. I was directed to this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974568 which seems pretty straightforward. I just need to know if I need to do anything other than factory reset that was suggested by Pedro before I proceed. Also by AP Fastboot mode they mean powering off then holding volume - and power? Is that fastboot mode?
SUCCESS! I used the recovery to wipe my data/factory reset. Then used latest RSD Lite to flash the Rogers ICS fastboot file and it went without a hitch. People on this forum are awesome. Special thanks to R3dbeaver and pedrotorresfilho for the awesome info!
Now I'm going to try and keep my root when I update to JB, wish me luck
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SUCCESS! I used the recovery to wipe my data/factory reset. Then used latest RSD Lite to flash the Rogers ICS fastboot file and it went without a hitch. People on this forum are awesome. Special thanks to R3dbeaver and pedrotorresfilho for the awesome info!
Now I'm going to try and keep my root when I update to JB, wish me luck
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good luck!
yes, google is your best friend. pedro is the next best thing
Well I went ahead and protected root using OTA Rootkeeper then install JB official update and successfully restored root. Awesome, but then I went and did something stupid and installed a program called Chainfire 3D and ran it, accepted the warning message totally by accident and completely screwed my phone again. I then had to fastboot (AGAIN) the ROM for JB, so I now have an unrooted RAZR running JB. Oh well, that'll learn me!
laerun81 said:
Well I went ahead and protected root using OTA Rootkeeper then install JB official update and successfully restored root. Awesome, but then I went and did something stupid and installed a program called Chainfire 3D and ran it, accepted the warning message totally by accident and completely screwed my phone again. I then had to fastboot (AGAIN) the ROM for JB, so I now have an unrooted RAZR running JB. Oh well, that'll learn me!
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LOL
sometimes the best way to learn is to do it yourself.
oh well. im in the same boat and tbh im enjoying JB even without root for now.
R3dbeaver said:
LOL
sometimes the best way to learn is to do it yourself.
oh well. im in the same boat and tbh im enjoying JB even without root for now.
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FIXED. go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257137
Please no one blast me for asking this question. I have spent HOURS searching for definitive answers, and I can't find what I need to know. I want to be very sure before I make any changes - I do not want to guess. I haven't bricked a phone yet, and don't want to start now. And I very much do not want to lose root.
I have a Droid Razr Maxx HD from VZW. It's currently running Android version 4.1.2 (System version 9.18.94.XT926.Verizon.en.US). It is rooted, but the bootloader is not unlocked, and I prefer not to unlock it. I *MUST* have root access. The phone is running painfully slow and I've already cleared the cache partition, but it's not enough. I want to do a hard reset after upgrading the firmware, then re-root.
My understanding, after about 6 hours of research, is that TowelRoot can root any version of Android released before June 3, 2014. I think that means 4.4.2. I found a place to download the stock version of 4.4.2 for XT926 (at least it's called that - it's not on the VZW site), but I can't verify the release date. I think it was before June 3 because I found discussions of 4.4.2 on the VZW site from last May.
1) Can someone verify that 4.4.2 is rootable with TowelRoot (which I've already downloaded).
2) Is there a place on the VZW site to download previous firmware versions so I can be certain I've got stock? Google publishes theirs (I also have a Nexus 10), but I don't see a page like this on the VZW site.
Next is how to flash... I have flashed my phone before using no additional software, but I can't recall the exact procedure and I don't want to screw it up. As I recall, I just had to put the zip file in the root of an external SD Card, then run native fastboot. But everything I've found googling says I have to edit an xml file, and run a Windows program called RSD Lite. Why?? I've found that the more 3rd party software in the mix, the greater the chance for disaster. Why can't I just use the native facility? I can't find the instructions I used previously.
I truly have tried to find the answers to these questions on my own, and I cannot. Could one of the very knowledgable people on this forum give me some definitive answers? I would be very grateful.
I figured out how to select a firmware update on my SD card via Recovery mode. I selected the zip file, and I see the message "Install /sdcard ...", but it doesn't look like anything is happening.
Not one response? No help from anyone?
This is a pretty useless forum. I would like to delete my original message since not one sole here can deign to even respond, but I can't do it.
Thanks for nothing.
permutations said:
This is a pretty useless forum. I would like to delete my original message since not one sole here can deign to even respond, but I can't do it.
Thanks for nothing.
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No one can help you here because your Razr Maxx HD is a different from Razr Maxx,this isn't the forum for it.
Sent from my Razr XT910
welder73 said:
No one can help you here because your Razr Maxx HD is a different from Razr Maxx,this isn't the forum for it.
Sent from my Razr XT910
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I tried very hard to find the right place to post my question. I couldn't find a forum for my exact model, and this seemed the closest. I thought I saw other posts about the Razr Maxx HD here. Do you have a link for the correct forum? I also spent a lot of time looking for the answer on my own before posting so no one could say I hadn't tried. But though I tried to be a good forum citizen, no one helped.
In any case, it doesn't matter. I took a chance, and luckily I guessed right. I'm now running KitKat and I am rooted. My phone had gotten very slow, so I also emptied the cache partition, then did a hard reset of my phone. I'm now reinstalling apps (not all of them).
I would move your attention to this area: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-hd. Don't criticize forum members and call the site useless. Sometimes you have to wait for help, especially when it's free.
permutations said:
I tried very hard to find the right place to post my question. I couldn't find a forum for my exact model, and this seemed the closest. I thought I saw other posts about the Razr Maxx HD here. Do you have a link for the correct forum? I also spent a lot of time looking for the answer on my own before posting so no one could say I hadn't tried. But though I tried to be a good forum citizen, no one helped.
In any case, it doesn't matter. I took a chance, and luckily I guessed right. I'm now running KitKat and I am rooted. My phone had gotten very slow, so I also emptied the cache partition, then did a hard reset of my phone. I'm now reinstalling apps (not all of them).
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I was hoping you would get an answer as well, since I am in the exact same boat with my Razr Maxx HD. It's on 4.1.2, system version 9.18.94, it's rooted and bootloader is still locked. I have deleted some stock Verizon apps like Slacker and a few others. At the time I wasn't aware there was ramifications for doing so. I would like to try KK, but have the option to go back to JB if I like, or even run a custom Rom. I found this guide by bweN diorD to do just that, trouble is I am not that saavy and am a little in the dark when it comes to this stuff. I need step by step instructions explaining everything along the way. I have never flashed anything. All I've ever done is jailbroken IOS devices and rooted droids. So if you have a step by step for me I'm all ears. I don't even need to be rooted at the moment on KK.
Yeah never mind I got it. Booted into fastboot, connected to laptop and ran WindowsutilityNoDataWipe.bat from bweN diorD's 1.41 file.