Thinking about rooting - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.

dionysos803 said:
How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
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is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root

Speedy Gonzalez said:
is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard
for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
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This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.

kimdoocheol said:
This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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I would count that as "a reason to use it".

Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access

thanks for info

Speedy Gonzalez said:
Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
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I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.

dionysos803 said:
I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
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What? It's the same as stock... but with the ability to remove bloat and add modifications. Also, you can add apps to multiwindow without root it just takes a lot more work.
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the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.

Hitman3984 said:
the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
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All updates are optional.
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Its TwiX said:
All updates are optional.
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true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.

My understanding is you can still update, because it's stock. Not sure if you would lose SU though.
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You can take a ota while rooted but you'll lose root. . If you deleted boat or modded certain things you could brick if you don't revert them back to stock... heres what my theory if you don't have specific reasons to root then you probably don't need to if you're going to be aware you can mess up your device if you don't follow instructions and have a basic understanding of what you're doing .... root alone doesn't give you any additional performance
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Hitman3984 said:
true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
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I've seen ota's automatically download and attempt install but the last few I've gotten had to be installed by the user
I'm sure we could find a ota block by then anyway
also you can trick the phone into thinking it took the update to stop getting the reminder by editing the build.prop
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]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
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OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.

Droidneedzsence said:
OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.
K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
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If it soft bricks/gets stuck in bootloop and you can get into odin download mode you can almost always flash back to stock to fix the issue I believe.

Absolutely no issues, I can now get around to backing up the bloatware with TI Backup and then uninstall that crap or delete it either way its going, going, gone. Root is the way.

kimdoocheol said:
This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
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It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
dionysos803 said:
]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
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Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.

flaring afro said:
It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.
Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.
To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
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Yes this feature was working prior to rooting my phone that's why this is a concern of mine
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Theres an app you can feeeze and not have to worry about update. Something 101 I believe.
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Excuse me SDM 1.0 ... someone wanna confirm this? I think droidstyle said it in another thread.

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[Q] Could I root my Vibrant, but keep it stock?

Hey all, I would like to root someone's vibrant, BUT I want to keep it perfectly stock. The only reason I want root is so I could set the voltage lower and underclock the CPU using setcpu for higher battery life. Is that possible?
Yes.
Just download the root update. Zip file in the development section and that's it.
If you upgrade your firmware it will automatically unroot
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yes, technically.
by rooting ONLY you end with stock and root access.
so yea, i guess it's like stock but not really lol.
Alanrocks15 said:
Yes.
Just download the root update. Zip file in the development section and that's it.
If you upgrade your firmware it will automatically unroot
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Could you clarify a little more, I don't understand
xtone said:
yes, technically.
by rooting ONLY you end with stock and root access.
so yea, i guess it's like stock but not really lol.
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Haha, well basically here's the thing. I've a friend's vibrant, but I think it's hardware locked. I want to be able to root it, and use a touchwiz rom stock or hacked, BUT I want the ability to be able to go back to complete 100% stock. I'm a complete noob when it comes to the Vibrant/Galaxy S phones that's why I don't want to try anything on my own. Especially since it's not my phone. haha thanks in advance for replyin! ^_^
Rooting the phone will not do anything to your phone except give you root access to the system files and such.
Just rooting it will not change anything appearance wise at all. And you can even still get OTA updates, that is if they ever actually get those working correctly.
So go ahead and root. It won't change a thing.
And you'll be able to use those certain apps that only work on a rooted phone.
isikh said:
Hey all, I would like to root someone's vibrant, BUT I want to keep it perfectly stock. The only reason I want root is so I could set the voltage lower and underclock the CPU using setcpu for higher battery life. Is that possible?
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Sure, this is entirely possible. Just keep in mind that undervolting and underclocking isn't going to gain you massive increases in battery life. The radio's and display are overwhelmingly greater current draws.
eminembdg said:
Rooting the phone will not do anything to your phone except give you root access to the system files and such.
Just rooting it will not change anything appearance wise at all. And you can even still get OTA updates, that is if they ever actually get those working correctly.
So go ahead and root. It won't change a thing.
And you'll be able to use those certain apps that only work on a rooted phone.
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Ah, I made myself sound like a total noob. I actually know what rooting does, etc, in fact, I've a G1 that I used for roughly 2 yrs, running CM, used a DEFY running a blurless ROM. I was just curious about the Vibrant since it's very new to me and I'm just being cautious. However, I thought I had a hardware locked Vibrant, but I tried booting into recovery mode, and it worked,first a weird screen came up, it said something like movicheckstart, and then recovery mode popped up, is that fine, and does that mean it's not hardware locked?
Google : Root yyour Vibrant XDA
and go to the first post
Follow the instructions
Done any more clearer?
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Alanrocks15 said:
Google : Root yyour Vibrant XDA
and go to the first post
Follow the instructions
Done any more clearer?
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I got root with superoneclick. Now, can I flash CWM recovery via recovery manager and then boot into recovery and flash a ROM?
Yea, it's what I did for a while. Stock with root so I could clock, remove bloatware and run apps that require root. Not a bad gig but Trigger is so much better.

What will you use root for?

When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
Finally be content.
Get bored and flash Viper ROM
Wonder why I didn't use this in the first place
Figure out how to revert the theme back to stock HTC Sense but keep the tweaks.
Live blissfully ever after.
Quickly get bored.
Wonder when Jellybean will come out for our phone, or when an awesome dev will make it.
Wait impatiently.
Watch as Key Lime Pie arrives and we still haven't gotten Jellybean.
Freak out!
Yeah, the first 10 will happen for sure, likely the next 4 will happen after a few weeks, and inevitably, when my flashing addiction gets too great, the next three items will follow. Hopefully we'll have several Jellybean ROM options before Key Lime Pie comes out, though.
Personally, I'll be happy just getting root, either through the bootloader unlock or S-OFF, as long as I can get the ROM customized the way I want it.
I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
IceDragon59 said:
When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
Finally be content.
Get bored and flash Viper ROM
Wonder why I didn't use this in the first place
Figure out how to revert the theme back to stock HTC Sense but keep the tweaks.
Live blissfully ever after.
Quickly get bored.
Wonder when Jellybean will come out for our phone, or when an awesome dev will make it.
Wait impatiently.
Watch as Key Lime Pie arrives and we still haven't gotten Jellybean.
Freak out!
Yeah, the first 10 will happen for sure, likely the next 4 will happen after a few weeks, and inevitably, when my flashing addiction gets too great, the next three items will follow. Hopefully we'll have several Jellybean ROM options before Key Lime Pie comes out, though.
Personally, I'll be happy just getting root, either through the bootloader unlock or S-OFF, as long as I can get the ROM customized the way I want it.
I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
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that about covers it.
You can knock out the root/recovery process with my tool here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758682
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that got an unlock code, flashed recover and rooted before everything got locked up. My phone hasn't had any updates pushed to it, my root still works and I'm a happy camper!
Initially the reason I rooted was just to get wireless-tether to work, as I relied on it heavily with my last few phones. I don't know how I managed to get the Inc 4G on an upgrade without loosing my unlimited data plan, as I understand most folks were forced onto a tiered plan due to the phone being released after the grandfather date for the unlimited plans. Stroke of luck #2!
At the moment, root has bought me wireless-tether, allowed me to actually yank some bloat instead of just disabling it and given me more flexibility when playing around with alternate launchers. What I'm really waiting for is the forthcoming ROMs so I can get a de-Sensed OS on this bad boy. I can only imagine how wicked fast it's gonna be without Sense and all the other crap. Plus ICS is damn sexy looking all on its own!
Wireless tether, button remap, custom recovery, root, and overclock
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I'm kinda confused Will your aio push root or will that have to wait for bootloader unlock?
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Senseless rom. A JB rom if one gets released. That's about it.
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RevolutionaryPC said:
[/COLOR]I'm kinda confused Will your aio push root or will that have to wait for bootloader unlock?
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We have to wait for bootloader unlock before it will work again.
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coffeedragon said:
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that got an unlock code, flashed recover and rooted before everything got locked up. My phone hasn't had any updates pushed to it, my root still works and I'm a happy camper!
Initially the reason I rooted was just to get wireless-tether to work, as I relied on it heavily with my last few phones. I don't know how I managed to get the Inc 4G on an upgrade without loosing my unlimited data plan, as I understand most folks were forced onto a tiered plan due to the phone being released after the grandfather date for the unlimited plans. Stroke of luck #2!
At the moment, root has bought me wireless-tether, allowed me to actually yank some bloat instead of just disabling it and given me more flexibility when playing around with alternate launchers. What I'm really waiting for is the forthcoming ROMs so I can get a de-Sensed OS on this bad boy. I can only imagine how wicked fast it's gonna be without Sense and all the other crap. Plus ICS is damn sexy looking all on its own!
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You know that hasoon2000 posted a senseless ROM already right?
IceDragon59 said:
When we finally get root (through either an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF), what are your specific plans on using it for?
I plan to:
Flash custom recovery
Obtain or create a stock de-odexed ROM (if there's an update and no one has put one out yet).
Remove all the bloat.
Insert my own specific apps and data to it (so I don't have to go around re-installing or updating everything every time I re-flash it)
Implement an OC kernel and find out if 1.5 GHz is the real clock speed of this processor and it was just underclocked, which has been discussed but not proven that I have seen. I know the latest OC kernel is only really getting 1.458 GHz, but I can dream.
Three-Dot Remap!
Get rid of Wi-Fi nag!
Flash ROM!
Utilize root-only apps I have.
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I really don't think that's an unreasonable request, Verizon. Let us unlock!
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I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
junkmail9 said:
I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
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Sounds like a plan
junkmail9 said:
I'll do a full Nandroid backup immediately after #1. Then:
Remove bloat,
install wireless tether
install 3-button remap,
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data.
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put
After thoroughly enjoying that for a few days (or minutes), then make a 2nd Nandroid backup and flash the Viper ROM, assuming it's out of Beta test.
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The 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
Remove bloat, - DONE
install wireless tether - DONE
install 3-button remap, - pending
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data. - DONE
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - DONE
Custom tag on hboot, WiFi Nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part.
junkmail9 said:
the 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
remove bloat, - done
install wireless tether - done
install 3-button remap, - pending
install tib and backup all installed apps+data. - done
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - done
custom tag on hboot, wifi nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part. :d
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10-4 dolly knockers
junkmail9 said:
The 5 month wait for s-off/root was so very worth it:
Remove bloat, - DONE
install wireless tether - DONE
install 3-button remap, - pending
install TiB and backup all installed apps+data. - DONE
put all of my custom ringtones into the system area so they stay put - DONE
Custom tag on hboot, WiFi Nag gone...
Definitely still in the enjoying part.
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What are you using to remove Wi-Fi nag on roms besides viper that already have it removed?
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MJL99 said:
What are you using to remove Wi-Fi nag on roms besides viper that already have it removed?
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I modified the framework-htc-res.apk by removing the 4 pngs mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30679535&postcount=40
I wasn't entirely sure which version the files were downloadable in that post, so I just modified my own. It was really a joy: Actually being able to get to the files using Root Explorer, pulling them off of the phone to my PC, modifying the framework files, changing the filesystem to R/W, and then putting them back. I had nearly forgotten that simple pleasure.
Not seeing that stupid icon in the notification area has been so uplifting today. I swear I've turned on the display several times today just to not see it there.
The question is now what we going to do with s-off after this epically long stint without root and s-off. It's like the doors of willa wonkas factory being open for the first time, yes.
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I'd like to overclock once we have a kernel that can do so. I'd like to undervolt as well to squeeze a little extra juice out of this baby
I know we are supposed to have s-off to use the chainfire 3D app but does anyone know if this actually do anything that's a +1
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I know we are supposed to have s-off to use the chainfire 3D app but does anyone know if this actually do anything that's a +1
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You can use either Chainfire's SuperSU or ChainsDD's Superuser. Either should work fine. Unless ChainsDD has updated his Elite, the advantage to SuperSU is the checkbox to disable and hide Superuser. I cannot say if that option is a Pro only option because I have the paid versions for both. (note: you can have only one of them installed at a time)
Then again Superuser Elite has OVER 9000!!!
No the chainfire 3D app that deals with graphic
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It might, but note that the description says it isn't compatible with ICS.
Description said:
!! For Froyo and Gingerbread ONLY. NOT COMPATIBLE with Honeycomb/Ice Cream Sandwich/Jelly Bean !!
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It might, but note that the description says it isn't compatible with ICS.
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I tried already ended up on a soft brick
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Is unlock, ROOT and ROM worth it.

Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
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If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
Rom
Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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KestrelX said:
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
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I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
schnip said:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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EvoYas said:
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
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Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
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Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)

Is this Phone worth rooting?

I am curious because i love this phone and im trying to avoid rooting it... However their is so much damn bloatware on this crap so it slows down to the point i can't even type a text message, My HTC Hero had faster speeds than this phone at certain points and thats pathetic. Its becoming frustrating and ive already thrown this thing across the room twice now (i have insurance and im shocked it hasnt broke yet)
All my syncs are off, Wifi is usually off but it keeps turning on and thats annoying, my screen time out is set for 5 mins, my brightness is low, i have next to no apps installed because it acts up when i do.
Got full insurance? Root the heck out of it! That's not normal for a phone like this, I have the open international version and it's buttery smooth. You might want to wait for 4.4 kitkat which is assumed to come within a month or two so it's up to you.
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Throw it against the wall again and see if that fixes it. Show it who's boss! ?
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
You can "Disable" all the bloat apps. I did that with my Wife's G2 and it runs buttery smooth.
This phone has never been slow, no matter how much crap I put on it.
I'm on stock, have just under ten different launchers on it, all with fat caches, all the original apps loaded and available, always on WiFi/3G, 3gigs music - the way I like it.
It has never stuttered.
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it's worth it just for de bloating and g2 xposed.
This phone isn't slow, ever, apps or not. Something is wrong with your phone.
Read this thread.There are tips about how to make the phone snappier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892
For me the phone never stuttered or lag. Still on stock with no de-bloating done.
If there's a reason to root for me will be to install Adaway & stop the annoying ads. Other than that it's pretty much all set up.
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That is definitely not normal. The stock phone is way more than adequate for your every day use, and I ran it for a good month flawlessly. However, I just liked the themes and extra abilities of being rooted (then, eventually a custom ROM) so I just did that. You can always revert back anyways.
still debating on rooting as well, I still linger around these forums on occasion. I somewhat grew out of the rom flashing, and buying/selling phones. As for the LG G2 , its a solid phone, really enjoying the battery life, yes it probably could be better but 17 hours plus with heavy usage is excellent for me.
Debloating is probably only reason I would root, but you can also hide the apps you don't need and that is holding me over for the time being. I will most like give in to rooting the device :silly: for a few mods,
trickster2369 said:
Throw it against the wall again and see if that fixes it. Show it who's boss! ?
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
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Hahah :laugh: :good:
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@kyhassenn
root it that wont hurt your mobile and download app master and uninstall all crapware and u good..
Why wouldn't you root? It's very easy and you can always return back to stock with no issues. I say root it and then do whatever you want with it. Just remember to not change anything if you don't know what it does. If you keep by this one rule, you shouldn't have to worry about bricking it.
I rooted and it's worth it specifically after debloating. You can always go back to stock with the LG tool kit.
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it is worth the root but, maybe its just me, when restoring back to factory you wont be able to update anymore.
If I root my T-Mobile G2, could I change the rooted status to unrooted in the lg root checker? That is the only thing I am worried about. I am running the OTA update non rooted.
I've opened every app on my phone, including torrent apps and high need games, and I was still able to play Need for Speed: Most Wanted at full speed and not even a screen glitch or sound skip. The fact that OP is having lag issues is astonishing.
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kyhassen said:
All my syncs are off, Wifi is usually off but it keeps turning on and thats annoying, my screen time out is set for 5 mins, my brightness is low, i have next to no apps installed because it acts up when i do.
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If you have a Sprint device the wifi issue is likely the connections optimizer, you can turn it off in the settings.
Yes
I went from S4 to this phone! I did the root on first startup! I think that Android is all about doing your own settings and make things just the way you want! If some company sometime release a phoen that I do not need to root and ''make my own'' I will be sad :=)
Full reset. If same, return.

[Q]Verizon Ellipsis 8 QTAQZ3

Hello all,
Starting a thread to see if there is out there in XDA who happened to pick up the Ellipsis 8 yesterday for Black Friday?
I bought my Mom a smartphone finally being she was stuck with old tech and never owned a smart phone so I got her the Sony Xperia Z3v. She is overly excited.
Anyways, they gave us for free Quanta Ellipsis 8 QTAQZ3, and I have attempted the following to get root access;
1) Kingo Root
2) TowelRoot
3) Framaroot 1.9.3
Neither one of these options provided root. Upon digging up threads on XDA, I found that the older Ellipsis 7 was able to get rooted with both Kingo Root and Framaroot.
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
Yep I got 2 of them yesterday looking forward to seeing someone figure out how to root them.
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I tried all three listed above as well with no success. I would be eternally greatful for anyone who can help with rooting this device since Verizon was so keen on giving them out like candy on Black Friday.
I picked one up, havent really looked for any methods. Its been a pretty good device thus far.
I think what people need to look for in the software is some bugs like how every other root method works... i know My Verizon requests su when its first run, but anyways, this would probably be the best place to look.
Raiden8816 said:
Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
Hopefully Someone Gets It!
I am hoping that one of our amazing Devs here on XDA will figure this out. I want root so I can get the full performance out of Tasker. Plus a few other things like a full debloat and such. I would have no problem making a donation to the Dev who figures this out lol.
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mike253 said:
Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
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Are you referring to the Galaxy Tabs? If so I 100% feel you. I don't understand how their phones are so gooood (IMO LOL), But they fail so hard on there tablets. Im beyond done with those until they step it up...ALOT lol.
Come on people, no news is not good news. I can't do anymore digging into this until I am off this weekend.
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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Until enough people get this tablet, there won't be any incentive to develop for it...
I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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Well, disabling is as good as deleting. Deleting them saves a small amount of space, a few MB... You have an SD slot, add more storage cheaply...
It is a basic tablet. I would never have bought such a tablet, but for free, what the hell, makes a nice news reader and stuff when lying in bed.
When I want a real tablet I do have a Dell Venue 11 Pro that works really well.
I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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I was about to respond to the other member but you made all the points I had to make haha. I 100% agree. I need root on this thing so I can run TB, Xposed, AD Away, Root Explorer, Debloat FULLY and not just disable, and a plethora of other things root is good for. Bottom line is it doesn't matter what the reason, ALL Android devices are better with root!

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