I am always low on space on my phone, Sprint EVO 3D ICS. I have been using DiskUsage to free up space when I update apps. DiskUsage shows my "System Data" to be 358MB. When searching I found multiple threads that suggest that I need to root to be able to see what is in the system data folder using all the space. I am ignorant on this part of it. I looked at a few root guides and they seemed very involved and potentially beyond my comfort level. I am not technology stupid, but I do not know anything about Android's file system.
What is the path of least resistance for me to find out what in System Data is using all my space?
Will es file explorer allow to to view without root?
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Yeah I would use explorer if your not rooted and root explorer if you are rooted
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Will es file explorer allow to to view without root?
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I tried using ES File Explorer and it shows nothing in the contents of \data\data so it appears I need root.
Is there any easy way to root the phone to give that ES File Explorer process the correct permissions?
Thanks
Is there anyway to view and delete the files using my PC with the SDK tools?
In order to do anything with the root of the phone, you need to first obtain root permissions, by rooting.
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In order to do anything with the root of the phone, you need to first obtain root permissions, by rooting.
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The root instructions I see say that it will restore the phone to the factory rom, which defies the point of what I am trying to do. I tried the temporary root instructions on the site and all failed. So evidently I have no choice. It sucks that Android is locked down to the point of becoming unusable.
If you are just trying to see what's there use explorer. It will work with non-rooted phones
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Its not all android phone. Htc is the hard one. Moto is worse though. Good luck. I would gain s-off while you are at it. Should you need it one day. Its much easier to gain s-off now then later after having all your data just the way you want it.
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patrao_n said:
Its not all android phone. Htc is the hard one. Moto is worse though. Good luck. I would gain s-off while you are at it. Should you need it one day. Its much easier to gain s-off now then later after having all your data just the way you want it.
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I am going to be getting a new phone soon, I am just trying to make this one livable until I can get rid of it. Everything I have tried has failed to get access to the system data directory to find out what is using all the space. It is so very frustrating.
cr0wbar said:
I am going to be getting a new phone soon, I am just trying to make this one livable until I can get rid of it. Everything I have tried has failed to get access to the system data directory to find out what is using all the space. It is so very frustrating.
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Boot your recovery and "flash" Aroma File Manager 1.80. Once it starts you may have to mount your volumes (select "Automount all devices on start" in settings), but then you should be able to access the contents of the /data directory.
If you don't have a custom recovery installed this isn't going to work but you can HTC unlock and flash a custom recovery without having to root your stock ROM.
ramjet73
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This will Achieve TEMP. Root.
I made this because I found it hard to find instructions.
I DID NOT MAKE THIS ROOT!
Download this Zergrush Root (mirror'd on my server) and extract somewhere where you can find:
http://www.guitarvideos.org/zerg.zip
1. Connect your phone to your computer via USB. Turn USB debugging on.
2. Download/install HTC drivers if they aren't already installed:
http://goo.gl/Rzauz
3. select HTC Sync When you plug your phone in. Charge Only may work for others, but HTC Sync is the only one that worked for me. Let windows install the drivers if needed.
4. Navigate inside the folder you extracted and right click on ZergRushTempRoot (.bat), and click Run as administrator. Then follow directions.
So if it's temporary root then what's the point of step 6?
Good point sir. Edited, and slapped firmly
Have you tried removing any bloat from /system?
you can temp root it and remove the bloatware, but it force re-dl's as soon as you reboot.
/sadface
I bet that can be blocked. There must be an app or service running that needs to be killed.
I am getting a 404 file not found error for the first link.
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I am getting a 404 file not found error for the first link.
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sorry should work now
Works now. Thanks
I tried it with the htc sync method and it doesnt work. Couldnt use any root apps anyway so I guess temp root is useless.
It worked for me, but only until it rebooted. Installed MyBackup Root and was able to restore. Once I rebooted, it was gone. Are there there any scripts to uninstall the bloat apps??
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While you are rooted, could you check the sizes of /data and /system with a df command in mobile terminal?
Ok I followed the steps and it SEEMS to work, puts SU on the phone, but Titanium does not recognize it as having root....
EDIT: disregard... not sure what I did but it's working now...
bast525 said:
Ok I followed the steps and it SEEMS to work, puts SU on the phone, but Titanium does not recognize it as having root....
EDIT: disregard... not sure what I did but it's working now...
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were you able to restore your apps/settings and have it all remain after reboot?
well, titanium restore is definitely working. got a bunch of stuff restored no problem. I haven't tried rebooting after restoring but I know SU dissappeared the couple times I rebooted before restoring.
I'm going to talk to a few guys today over in the 3VO forums. I'm sure we can get a script for the bloat. Maybe even for th kernel. No promises but can't hurt
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I'm going to talk to a few guys today over in the 3VO forums. I'm sure we can get a script for the bloat. Maybe even for th kernel. No penises but can't hurt
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Haaaaaaa, I'm assuming you meant promises?
EDIT: Ok I finally got it to work. Looks like Zergroot may have unmounted my SD card, so I had to go back in and remount it. But I'm good to go. WHoo hoo!!!!!
Lol,, gotta love spell check!
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con247 said:
While you are rooted, could you check the sizes of /data and /system with a df command in mobile terminal?
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Con - I didn't get that far into it. Terminal icon was active only before the reboot as well.
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Haaaaaaa, I'm assuming you meant promises?
EDIT: Ok I finally got it to work. Looks like Zergroot may have unmounted my SD card, so I had to go back in and remount it. But I'm good to go. WHoo hoo!!!!!
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hold **** that's the funniest thing I've seen all week..way to make an entrance Into the new forums huh? Lol, Jesus that's funny. I'm gonna talk to Viperboy over at the Epic Touch forums. He made the Bloatware script for us in the 3vo forums back when we had temp root. He may be able to help.
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I'm going to talk to a few guys today over in the 3VO forums. I'm sure we can get a script for the bloat. Maybe even for th kernel. No promises, but can't hurt
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I've been trying to find a way to preserve saved games before unlocking and rooting, but TiB and My Backup require root for that. Instead, I discovered ES File Explorer can move apps to the SD card individually. When I unlock, root, and install an ICS ROM, will the games still be detected by ICS with everything intact?
Thanks
Just root and use titanium.
Easiest way.
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Just root and use titanium.
Easiest way.
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He can't root
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He can't root
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Oh duh! Because when you unlock your bootloader it wipes your phone.
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Oh duh! Because when you unlock your bootloader it wipes your phone.
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Yep and thats what he's trying to stop.
OP I would just wait for s-off and see what it needs to do.
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If transferring the apps to the SD card doesn't save the game files, could I instead temp-root the phone to get access to the game folders and game save files? Does anyone think we'll ever actually see S-off?
Aeroman787 said:
If transferring the apps to the SD card doesn't save the game files, could I instead temp-root the phone to get access to the game folders and game save files? Does anyone think we'll ever actually see S-off?
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well this just came up http://unlimited.io/ so yea i think we will see it
Also, unless you are on the release firmware, you cant temp root. if you can just back everything up with TB and you are good
Ok I'm not talking about htc built in apps. But this useless bull**** apps that just sitting on my app drawer with no ****ing reason:
7digital
Ais
Axis net
Broadband
Dtac
I store
I muzik 3g
Mobiletv
Mobile tv
Mobi tv
Mworld
My HTC
Myhtcs
Ringtunes
Telkomsel
Truemoveh
Viettel
XL
I have successfuly uninstalled them all using link2sd (need root).
I try to uninstalled 7digital then my phone restarts by itself, I'm scared a bit, then after my phone booted all that **** apps I just uninstalled came back. Wtf???
Any solutions?
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You can only remove them in recovery via adb shell rm /system/app/*.apk
And if you're on stock ROM, also remove it's odex adb shell rm /system/app/*.odex
Or you can use the script made by Maarten here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36278172&postcount=30
extract the updater-script, edit the filename for the apk that you need to remove and put in back in the zip, and flash that in recovery.
Tried root uninstaller but no luck either. It came back after reboot :/
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w1040 said:
Tried root uninstaller but no luck either. It came back after reboot :/
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No app can uninstall app on DX except the way I described above.
There is some sort of protection HTC imposed on DX that you cannot use an app like TB, Root Uninstaller & etc; they won't work.
Note: before you remove anything, make sure you make a nandroid of your stock ROM before that as once an OTA is out, you need a clean stock ROM to update successfully.
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No app can uninstall app on DX except the way I described above.
There is some sort of protection HTC imposed on DX that you cannot use an app like TB, Root Uninstaller & etc; they won't work.
Note: before you remove anything, make sure you make a nandroid of your stock ROM before that as once an OTA is out, you need a clean stock ROM to update successfully.
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But my rom are now rooted its too late to make a nand backup now..
Anyway, nand backup is on cwm recovery right?
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If you never remove anything from the system partition, it is never too late.
(I believe you not yet able to remove anything )
And yes, make a nandroid backup with CWM.
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If you never remove anything from the system partition, it is never too late.
(I believe you not yet able to remove anything )
And yes, make a nandroid backup with CWM.
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What I meant is its too late for me to backup a clean stock unrooted rom.
Sorry can't edit my post above since I'm new user although I'm not new to xda I'd just created a new account.
Anyway I wish there was a simple way to remove the odex on the bloatware I want to uninstalled. On link2sd, the app mentioned above are marked with ODEX (green).
Guess you were right, can't move an an app with an odex on it though I don't know what odex is.
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I understood that. What I meant is it is ok to make backup with a rooted stock ROM.
To update an OTA, you don't need to remove your root app or any installed app as long as all system files are intact. You don't even need to relock your bootloader. What you need is a stock recovery.
You can read more on this topic on the link in my sig. Even though that is for One V, it works the same principal for DX.
You can remove system apps from recovery using app called Aroma File Manager, made by Amarullz, you have the link in my Index.
nlooooo said:
You can remove system apps from recovery using app called Aroma File Manager, made by Amarullz, you have the link in my Index.
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Totally forgot about this nice recovery explorer/file manager
As I always use a PC base explorer/file manager to add/remove files to/from system partition.
To w1040
ckpv5 is right. You can not delete files simply from Data or System folders.
You have to do that in recovery mode. If you try to delete files from any File explorer, your phone will simply restart.
Though we have rooted our phone, however it is not 100% rooted. HTC made S-ON on all of those device so that people can not do any changes on systems.
Play with your phone with complete nand backup.
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To w1040
ckpv5 is right. You can not delete files simply from Data or System folders.
You have to do that in recovery mode. If you try to delete files from any File explorer, your phone will simply restart.
Though we have rooted our phone, however it is not 100% rooted. HTC made S-ON on all of those device so that people can not do any changes on systems.
Play with your phone with complete nand backup.
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Actually we do have 100% root, S-Off differs a lot from root. And there are multiple ways of deleting the apps. You can make a flashable zip file yourself if you know how to, you can use aroma file manager (mount system before using it), adb, or any other recovery file manager, if it exists
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Probably someone should make a tutorial how to delete system apps here using aroma file manager?
Would be really useful.
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Actually we do have 100% root, S-Off differs a lot from root. And there are multiple ways of deleting the apps. You can make a flashable zip file yourself if you know how to, you can use aroma file manager (mount system before using it), adb, or any other recovery file manager, if it exists
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Yup understand. I am sorry I wanted to say he can not do it thru any file browser when the phone is running. It will simply reboot.
Need to try Aroma File manager. Deleting with flashable.zip is really a pain not so simple.
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Probably someone should make a tutorial how to delete system apps here using aroma file manager?
Would be really useful.
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+1 for that.
Addition
I have made a new idea on removing bloatwares. The idea is that the user can select the apps that are to be deleted in aroma. I have already made a project regarding this but only for my device. You can port it to your device and maybe share this with everyone.
Link to my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632355
With some changes, it will work great and our community can develop!!
But please don't cross post...
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Yeah! One moderator told me! I won't do like that from now onwards!
I have the t-mobile 626s variant. Ive rooted and still have a bunch of process and apps I dont want. I dont have a computer at the moment becuase its being fixed. Is there a list of apps safe to remove? Thank You
You have to install an insecure kernel. You can find a lot of custom kernel in these forum, choose one of them
Hello,
I've managed to get my build.prop in a state where I can't update (I assume it's the build prop). I've tried the backups I have, but none of them are working. I'm currently on 4.1.1 and I was hoping someone has backup.
Thanks in advance!
for clarity: Verizon Galaxy Note II 4.1.1 Stock ROM, Stock Recovery, Rooted
The Failing update is update_SCH-I605_LL4_to_MC3 which fails with code 402
Download the stock ROM in Development and pull it from there
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Bfitz26 said:
Download the stock ROM in Development and pull it from there
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I Downloaded the image and extracted it, now I have a "system.img" file which I assume contains the files but what do I do with it? I tried mounting/extracting and nothing worked.
Trevski13 said:
I Downloaded the image and extracted it, now I have a "system.img" file which I assume contains the files but what do I do with it? I tried mounting/extracting and nothing worked.
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Download the recovery flashable stock rom, the zip file, and extract it from that using 7zip.
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Trevski13 said:
I Downloaded the image and extracted it, now I have a "system.img" file which I assume contains the files but what do I do with it? I tried mounting/extracting and nothing worked.
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Using ES File explorer. Setup up your root explorer. and change permissions by using tools to System R/W.
Use ES File explorer to open the stock download and navigate to system/build.prop Copy it. Go back to your system and Rename the one there to build.bak. Then paste the new one there. This way you have the original saved if it turns out not to be the build.prop. My guess is. If you are on a rooted, stock rom like you said. The build.prop's are going to be identical. Thinking the culprit might be whatever you are trying to Odin is bad.
dragonstalker said:
Using ES File explorer. Setup up your root explorer. and change permissions by using tools to System R/W.
Use ES File explorer to open the stock download and navigate to system/build.prop Copy it. Go back to your system and Rename the one there to build.bak. Then paste the new one there. This way you have the original saved if it turns out not to be the build.prop. My guess is. If you are on a rooted, stock rom like you said. The build.prop's are going to be identical. Thinking the culprit might be whatever you are trying to Odin is bad.
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I didn't know you could explore .img files with a root explorer, of course I have never tried either.
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So I pulled the build.prop from a stock image, but it turned out it perfectly matched one of my backups. (I had three backups, factory, factory that I played with, and OTA Stock). So in the end that didn't solve my core issue. At this point should I make a new thread with a more appropriate title or just continue this one?
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I didn't know you could explore .img files with a root explorer, of course I have never tried either.
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Actually you can't... I ended up using "Android ICS JB EXT4 imagefile unpacker" for windows, which worked nicely.
Trevski13 said:
The Failing update is update_SCH-I605_LL4_to_MC3 which fails with code 402
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I would say just continue this thread.
I just re-read your original post. Are you trying to update from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 via the OTA? If so, build.prop isn't your issue.
jcollier said:
I would say just continue this thread.
I just re-read your original post. Are you trying to update from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 via the OTA? If so, build.prop isn't your issue.
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alright, detail time!
I'm currently on 4.1.1 (I've applied one update after I bought it on release day)
I have an ota update (to what I assume is 4.1.2)
stock everything, locked boot-loader, but rooted (used Exynos Abuse)
using SuperSU
my phone lists update_SCH-I605_LL4_to_MC3 which fails to install with error code 402
my device status IS "modified" but it appears to be related to the SD card as it is "normal" when I remove it (apparently a known issue)
normally when I get an update I do the following:
1. restore build.prop
2. remove busybox
3. remove/disable any other apps that may have played with files that I think could cause issues
4. double check my root backup (Voodoo)
5. temp unroot
6. update
7. restore root
8. enjoy
this method usually works without issues :/
and the reason I suspected build.prop in the first place is that restoring it allowed me to update on another device.
I'd really rather not have to flash it back to stock, but if it's my only option, I will. So any ideas that don't involve wiping everything would be wonderful!
Trevski13 said:
alright, detail time!
I'm currently on 4.1.1 (I've applied one update after I bought it on release day)
I have an ota update (to what I assume is 4.1.2)
stock everything, locked boot-loader, but rooted (used Exynos Abuse)
using SuperSU
my phone lists update_SCH-I605_LL4_to_MC3 which fails to install with error code 402
my device status IS "modified" but it appears to be related to the SD card as it is "normal" when I remove it (apparently a known issue)
normally when I get an update I do the following:
1. restore build.prop
2. remove busybox
3. remove/disable any other apps that may have played with files that I think could cause issues
4. double check my root backup (Voodoo)
5. temp unroot
6. update
7. restore root
8. enjoy
this method usually works without issues :/
and the reason I suspected build.prop in the first place is that restoring it allowed me to update on another device.
I'd really rather not have to flash it back to stock, but if it's my only option, I will. So any ideas that don't involve wiping everything would be wonderful!
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Really the only thing I have seen to update is to go completely back to stock.
But why do you want to do this so badly? Why not just unlock and flash the new update rom Beans provided? Thats certainly the easiest way to do it in my opinion, since you're having all these issues, and it leaves you unlocked in case you don't like one of the future updates or if you want to test out AOSP.
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Really the only thing I have seen to update is to go completely back to stock.
But why do you want to do this so badly? Why not just unlock and flash the new update rom Beans provided? Thats certainly the easiest way to do it in my opinion, since you're having all these issues, and it leaves you unlocked in case you don't like one of the future updates or if you want to test out AOSP.
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I rely on my phone a lot and so even the short amount of time it would take me to fix a soft brick, or reconfigure a wiped device would be a problem. I'm not worried about bricking it, I'm worried about the time it takes to fix it. I soft bricked my old X2, and it was a real inconvenience (granted that was the first time I'd ever had to fix something like that) and I had to restore my Transformer Infinity back to stock to fix lag and glitching issues. (which lead to a whole partial root fiasco). So It's not that I can't fix the problems, it's that it takes time I don't have, and disrupts my life. If I had another 4g phone (because switching between 3g and 4g is a pain on Verizon) that I could switch to if I messed up and didn't have time to fix it, I'd totally start messing with custom roms, unlocking, and all that fun stuff, but I don't
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I rely on my phone a lot and so even the short amount of time it would take me to fix a soft brick, or reconfigure a wiped device would be a problem. I'm not worried about bricking it, I'm worried about the time it takes to fix it. I soft bricked my old X2, and it was a real inconvenience (granted that was the first time I'd ever had to fix something like that) and I had to restore my Transformer Infinity back to stock to fix lag and glitching issues. (which lead to a whole partial root fiasco). So It's not that I can't fix the problems, it's that it takes time I don't have, and disrupts my life. If I had another 4g phone (because switching between 3g and 4g is a pain on Verizon) that I could switch to if I messed up and didn't have time to fix it, I'd totally start messing with custom roms, unlocking, and all that fun stuff, but I don't
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Well unlocking would let you go ahead and update and until you wanted to flash roms you wouldnt have to except for that first flash of the new update, which is what a stock update does.
The reason I say this is some people have had this problem and when they finally do get the update to work it soft bricks them. This is rare but it has happened. In the end for me it is just easier to unlock so I can play around when I want to and when I dont I can stay on stock.
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For those who want to stay on 1.85.605.9 for now. Must be S-0ff, rooted, and custom recovery.....
If you have 1.85.605.9 rooted with custom recovery, Nougat will not be able to install.
But it will still give nags to update and keep trying, over and over again.
If this annoys you, there is a way to stop the update nags in 3 steps.
Install Root Exporer. Go to root/system/etc-security. Set to mount R/W.
Rename otacerts.zip to “otacerts.zip.bak”.
Next, go to root/system/priv-app/HtcOMADM_VZW and rename HtcOMADM_VZW.apk to “HtcOMADM_VZW.apk.bak”.
Finally, go to root/system/priv-app/HtcOMADM_VZW/OAT/ARM
And rename HtcOMADM_VZW.odex to “HtcOMADM_VZW.odex.bak”.
Works so far for me.
Good post, my friend. I'm sure many will benefit from this who aren't happy on the recent nougat update. Removing those applications have always worked best to stop OTA nag IMO. I've also found oddly once you remove the apps that 'Configuration version' will change to 'unknown' in the Settings menu.
Thanks for the info. Can I do this with a file manager Amaze which has root explorer? I tried locating these files but could not find them.
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legaldeejay said:
Thanks for the info. Can I do this with a file manager Amaze which has root explorer? I tried locating these files but could not find them.
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Would try to download free version of Root Explorer. Must be rooted to use it.
Those files are definitely in stock Verizon RUU 1.85.605.9, but may not appear in Viper or other RUU's.
Get into Root, System, and you can navigate to each one by going into the named trees in OP.
Good luck....
I found them. otacerts.zip is located at system/etc/security and the htcOMADM files are at system/priv-app. I presume just renaming them in Amaze should work?
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legaldeejay said:
I found them. otacerts.zip is located at system/etc/security and the htcOMADM files are at system/priv-app. I presume just renaming them in Amaze should work?
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Yes, that'll do it. Note AndyBones above (who knows more about HTC roms than I) says he's had luck just deleting those apk's and odex.
I am timid about deletes and after-effects, so I just rename to .bak so I can undo my damage if needed.
Your call.
Freezing HtcDm in TB worked on my end without any issues. Waiting for Xposed to be released for Nougat first before taking the update.