Hi,
I am new to GSM networks and sim cards as I am coming from Sprint. Crappy 3G and our LTE in Las Vegas won't go live anytime soon so I am trying TMobile. I scored a good deal on an LG Optimus G, and I have it unlocked for TMobile.
I want to unlock, root, and flash roms. Should I be in the ATT section or the International Optimus G section for downloads/instructions?
Thank you,
Kevin
Las Vegas was actually the first city in the US where T-Mobile "flipped the switch" and turned on their 4G LTE service last November, a few weeks after the iPhone 5 came out (that was part of the reason, actually). I live in the downtown area and get somewhat "ok" coverage; T-Mobile's 4G HSPA+ is fine with me as I pull typical speeds well in excess of 10Mbps so it's a non-issue with me.
My LGOG can do the T-Mobile LTE without breaking a sweat, just requires me to add the fast.t-mobile.com APN (epc.t-mobile.com is fine for HSPA+ stuff, that might change in the future but I doubt it). I use their $30/month plan like so many others without any issues worth even mentioning.
If I misunderstood what you said and you were meaning that Sprint doesn't have 4G LTE here in Vegas, you'd be wrong on that count too (up to a point) but it depends on your area - they are currently testing it and I have a neighbor who noticed it last week on his Sprint device (think it's an S4, can't remember at the moment). We have a Sprint "switch" here in downtown about a half block from where we live and there's a cell site just off it so Sprint has the downtown area pretty saturated but it's not on 24/7, pretty sporadic as they're in the last testing stages before turning it on full time.
Anyway, as for the right sub-forum, it depends on which LGOG you have: the International version is the E975; the Sprint model is the LS975, and of course the AT&T model is the E970 which this specific sub-forum is about.
Choose where you want to participate by the model number/designation, or just participate in all of them I suppose. I'm going to guess you have the AT&T version since a) it's a GSM device (Sprint's is CDMA but uses the SIM card for LTE iirc), and b) the International version is factory unlocked from the gitgo anyway so...
You're in the right place, I'd say.
The process is fairly simple:
- use the ZV9-ZVB-Universal-Root (search for it) and it'll root the phone in a few seconds then reboot it ready to go (make sure to upgrade the SuperSU if you stick with the stock ROM or intend to keep it around in a backup)
- use FreeGee (get it on Google Play Market) to unlock the bootloader and install the recovery (two versions of TWRP or a touch-based CWM 6.0.2.7 are the choices), make sure you back up the EFS info before and even after you do the unlocking, it can't hurt
- copy ROMs to the externalSD card (or internal, I suppose) and have at it
Very nice device overall, my personal recommendation would be to avoid that Nexus 4 conversion since a) you lose the microSD slot totally, and b) your storage gets cut in half from 16GB to 8GB (not sure if that's ever been resolved at this point). Realistically while it's a neat idea in practice, doing it gets you basically nothing of any real use. The ROMs available nowadays as compared to long ago when that conversion thing was first discovered make the necessity of "pure AOSP as a Nexus 4" pretty much useless at this point in time. The LGOG is one damned fine device, seriously, and doing some tweaking with a custom ROM and some kernel stuff will net you an even better device.
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Pick a radio as well. The stock JB AT&T modem works just fine for me, there is a hybrid one (33_84 meaning it's the core of the older .33 radio (like the LTE support) merged with stuff from the newer .84 radio (which doesn't support LTE) - the hybrid of both gets you LTE support and the other newer goodies too. Note: the JB AT&T radio does support LTE just fine, obviously, and it works with T-Mobile's LTE support here in Vegas and elsewhere too so there's no logical reason to go swapping out with radios unless you just feel like testing things for yourself. The danger with the radio swapping is a potential brick if the flashing process corrupts something; you may not recover from it in terms of phone usage but then you'd have a nice clone of an iPod touch with quad cores and everything!
I tested the .33, .33-.84 hybrid, .48, and finally I just said the hell with it and put the stock AT&T JB radio back on it and haven't had any reason to change it again, it works just fine on 4G HSPA+ and LTE combined.
Thanks a ton for the help. I literally just got this phone. I'm at work and like the posts above I'm having trouble getting lte....have to go
Well the info I posted above is tempered with the fact that it was my experience of using the GOG in that manner; you, like I have, posted in that other thread iirc where discussion is going on about the LGOG working with T-Mobile LTE then suddenly just not working and nobody seems to know why. In the short period of time where I did have it working it was great, had good speeds, very low ping times (one of those things about LTE that makes it faster), and somewhat solid connection/throughput for data transfers.
But, once that LTE disappeared from the status bar, it hasn't come back except the one time I swapped in another T-Mobile SIM and then it only worked till I rebooted (like 45 minutes tops) and when it came back up, no LTE yet again.
Kinda weird how/why this is happening, it could just be one of those things we'll never get a proper answer to or even a fix.
Regardless, the HSPA+ speeds are more than adequate to still be a very useful device. Personally I've never cared about LTE overall, and I know T-Mobile is getting there but they spent years building that HSPA+ backhaul network so that's good enough for me.
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I got the Motorola Photon last week because it was only $99 dollars which is an amazing price for this amazing phone. I was going to get the LG Marquee because it was a 3G only device I believe and last time I got a droid from sprint they had the $10 dollar surcharge for premium data only for 4G capable device, regardless of the fact that there is no 4G in my area. Needless to say I read recently that Sprint is going to be shutting down or re-purposing their Wimax towers and moving to LTE, I think this is a great idea, but my question is, will my Photon be able to use LTE when it is available or will I have to get a new phone when they switch to LTE? Compared to Verizon, the data connection is a joke. Its very slow, luckily when Im at school they have wireless N wifi, and at home I have wifi. I would like to eventually not have to use wifi and be able to do stuff as simple as searching the market without having to wait 5-10 seconds for a page to come up. I used that 3G supercharger, and it is better then it was, but randomly drops the connection and goes to roaming now, that doesn't really matter though. Another comment I have on the Photon, is the phenomenal battery life. I didn't update my phone with the leaked software that was suppose to fix some battery issues, but I don't have any. I easily go 14 hours a day using it as an mp3 player, etc, and usually have around 60% battery power left then it takes like less then an hour to fully charge. Call quality and reception is about a million times better then my Samsung transform. Motorola has made me a believer in good phones. I'll never purchase another Samsung cell phone again, that's for sure. The only thing that could make this phone better would be LTE.
Welcome to the club. There's several threads on LTE, so check those out but there's no conclusive answer that I've seen. Battery life and reception are great with this phone so if you ever do have a problem, look for a rogue app.
Lol The club. I like that. Anywho I was looking around in the mophos build.prop file and it actually said some stuff about LTE, thats pretty cool. Maybe this phone is already prepared to switch to LTE in a future system update.
I think(read: I'm uncertain if)the Photon has the necessary 800mhz radio in it for sprints future rollouts(rev. a, rev. b, 1xAdvanced or whatever is gonna use it).
I'm actually trying to determine this as well, for certain, since this phone has amazing radios in it as far as the reception is concerned. I dont care too much about the LTE radio but I'd like to be able to use the revised 3G band. I've been thinking of getting the Photon and moving away from my Nexus S 4G only because of what I've heard about its ability to pull down a signal.
HSPA+ is the minimum foundation for LTE so if sprint layered their network the Photon would work fine because that is the Gsm Transceiver it has.
Thats what I was thinking! Sprint just needs to HTFU and cut out wimax and give us the better LTE network. Lol I bet all the new samsung phones will be **** out of luck though! That will be hilarious when the new GSII's are useless! Samsung blows
Hey yall I just wanted to start a discussion thread for T-Mobile like me who are braving T-Mobile's refarmed network and using the HTC One X+ (International or unlocked AT&T variant). Maybe we can get a few tips and tricks together to make our user experience a bit better.
For example, such radios yall are using, any build.prop edits that might help data speeds or GPS locking speed (if you are using the international version like I am).
Ill update the OP with the list of suggestions, maybe an FAQ.
I've been using the Phone Info app to turn off the LTE radio, although I'm not entirely sure that is does. I use the GSM auto mode which is the default on 3G non LTE phones. The default on the One X+ is GSM/WCDMA/LTE
Is anyone experiencing weak or wavering 3G signal (over PCS) as discussed toward the end of this thread (scroll down about halfway on page three)?
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=18318.40
The very knowledgeable posters there say that T-Mobile is using less power on PCS (WCDMA), as compared to AWS, right now. And probably won't turn it up until they start shifting AWS to LTE.
cb474 said:
Is anyone experiencing weak or wavering 3G signal (over PCS) as discussed toward the end of this thread (scroll down about halfway on page three)?
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=18318.40
The very knowledgeable posters there say that T-Mobile is using less power on PCS (WCDMA), as compared to AWS, right now. And probably won't turn it up until they start shifting AWS to LTE.
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Definitely especially indoors. I get full bars of PCS where available, but indoors I'm switching between 3G/"4G" and Edge.
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Definitely especially indoors. I get full bars of PCS where available, but indoors I'm switching between 3G/"4G" and Edge.
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Do you have a phone with AWS 3G to compare in the same location and see if it has better 3G reception?
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Do you have a phone with AWS 3G to compare in the same location and see if it has better 3G reception?
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Yep, my Nexus 4 gets constant HSPA+ where I get spotty PCS
I have a question for you guys that are using the HOX+ on T-mobile.
What type of sim card are you using?
I know that on the original HTC One X, you had to use a non-gba sim card that said 50.01 on the front to make it work, and that if you used the one that said 50.05 you wouldn't get data even if you change the APN settings.
I just bought this phone a few minutes ago on Amazon and I know Houston is a 1900MHZ pcs market so that's not an issue, i just want to make sure I don't run into any issues with the sim card I have as it is fairly new.
jd317 said:
I have a question for you guys that are using the HOX+ on T-mobile.
What type of sim card are you using?
I know that on the original HTC One X, you had to use a non-gba sim card that said 50.01 on the front to make it work, and that if you used the one that said 50.05 you wouldn't get data even if you change the APN settings.
I just bought this phone a few minutes ago on Amazon and I know Houston is a 1900MHZ pcs market so that's not an issue, i just want to make sure I don't run into any issues with the sim card I have as it is fairly new.
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Well I cut my sim from a regular SIM card so there aren't really numbers on it. I think you'll be safer with a newer one than an older one so you're fine.
Also located in Houston and getting pretty good 3G
I tried to sign up over at tmonews forums and registration for new users is closed. Anybody have any insight as to when that will reopen?
I believe one of the reasons TMO has to go with lower power at first is to measure the impact of their new 1900mhz spectrum usage in the existing market in question. Since other carriers are using the same spectrum they need to make sure they do not cause interference. The best way to do that is short and long term RF studies. Start off with a refarmed freq at lower power then over time bump up the power and make sure it doesnt cause any new interference. If so then your able to go to a higher power. Im sure the FCC has time constraints for this but add into it the amount of towers im sure the carrier would rather accomplish more with each visit. So if an upgrade or tweek is needed then they can also adjust the power.
Forgot to add i recently acquired the ATT version of the HTC ONE X+ 64GB and it does ok in the Dallas area. Had it switch a few times to G and E but for the most part i stays on 4G. HSPA+21.6 DL speeds go between 2megs down and 9 megs down.
Prior to that i was using a Nexus 4 and TMO GS3. I seem to have better speeds with my GS3.
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I tried to sign up over at tmonews forums and registration for new users is closed. Anybody have any insight as to when that will reopen?
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The forums have been like that for a while (at least months). Don't know why. Perhaps you can email the person who writes the blog and ask about it.
I live in the Orlando area, I am on Straight Talk. I was using an at&t compatible SIM from straight talk and got up to 7mb down and 1.5mb up but these speeds were not consistent, a few days ago I switched to a t -mobile compatible SIM from straight talk and now I get consistent 12mb down and 3mb up. I was very surprised! I'm so glad I did this switch
I am using an at&t 1X+ which I unlocked.
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All, nice threat. just got this phone and unlocked the bootloader today. how can i unlock the simcard to use on tmo? i know we have LTE here and I am dying to see what kind of speeds i can get on this phone. thanks all
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I like Verizon, the coverage is great but sometimes I wonder if the grass is greener. I like to try all the different phones out there and T-Mobile and AT&T have the most open networks for switching out phones. I think T-Mobile is not going to work because the coverage is just not there. I used to be an At&T customer and only left really for Android (Original Droid). Now that Android is spread to al the carriers I wonder if I might like AT&T better just because I can switch out phones so much easier. Anyone have any input, maybe someone that has switched from Verizon to AT&T?
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I like Verizon, the coverage is great but sometimes I wonder if the grass is greener. I like to try all the different phones out there and T-Mobile and AT&T have the most open networks for switching out phones. I think T-Mobile is not going to work because the coverage is just not there. I used to be an At&T customer and only left really for Android (Original Droid). Now that Android is spread to al the carriers I wonder if I might like AT&T better just because I can switch out phones so much easier. Anyone have any input, maybe someone that has switched from Verizon to AT&T?
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I'd love to provide some input as a user who has been a Verizon customer for a few years and is switching to AT&T. I previously used the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and then switched to the iPhone 5 last year. I am still on an unlimited data plan. However, I have grown increasingly frustrated at Verizon because of their lack of phone variety, slow updates, locked bootloaders, Verizon customizations (persistent WIFI notifications, for example), etc.
So I bought an HTC One on AT&T the other day and am currently evaluating it. Right now I still have my Verizon iPhone 5 with unlimited data. But I also have the HTC One with the 5GB data plan (I have a 25% business discount).
SO is the grass greener? Yes and No. Here are some of my thoughts:
- Verizon has better overall coverage, but AT&T is faster. In my area, LTE on AT&T just went live, and while speeds are comparable, AT&T has better penetration already into the buildings I've been in. In my workplace, for example, I can get 4G LTE on AT&T but only 3G on Verizon unless I am close to the windows. It's nice having HSPA+ as a drop down from LTE as opposed to Verizon's very slow 3G network IMO. Can't deny Verizon's coverage is second to none, but AT&T is good in my area so this is probably the primary consideration (how is AT&T in your main area you'll be in???)
- It would be very hard to give up my Unlimited Data plan on Verizon. It's nice not having to worry about data caps. However, in actual use, I rarely go over 3-4GB per month and only occasionally reach 5GB. I don't think 3GB would be enough as I'd be constantly worrying about going over, plus I'd have to workaround tethering. For now, I'm keeping my Verizon line until I am absolutely sure.
- Phones! GMS > CDMA if only for the flexibility the former has for phones. The floodgates are open on AT&T and T-Mobile, but Verizon takes longer to get phones, has less variety, and has complete control over them. I hate everything about what Verizon is doing, and it's clear they don't have geeks in mind that like to tinker and switch phones often. I change phones every 9-12 months usually, and AT&T is going to provide a better environment than Verizon for that. Not perfect, mind you. They still lock bootloaders, and have some draconian policies and practices, but by the nature of their GMS network, there is more flexibility.
- HTC One. I bought the One on AT&T before it was officially confirmed that Verizon would be getting it. So there is a part of me that thinks I should just return the AT&T version and wait for the Verizon version. However, I am not at all confident that Verizon won't screw it up or prevent HTC from allowing us to unlock the bootloader. And like I said, I'm just really tired of Verizon and their meddling. I may just end up keep both plans for a while, but right now I'm leaning towards keeping the AT&T version despite my unlimited data plan on Verizon.
Hope that helps.
Yes that was a great help. I am really torn because Verizon's coverage is so great. I know that ATT LTE went live here a little bit ago and I think the coverage is pretty good. Ironically I left ATT for the Droid on Verizon because of the lack of variety on ATT at the time. Thanks for your input.
honestly i would move to verizon right now if i could, in my area better coverage + better speeds
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Yes that was a great help. I am really torn because Verizon's coverage is so great. I know that ATT LTE went live here a little bit ago and I think the coverage is pretty good. Ironically I left ATT for the Droid on Verizon because of the lack of variety on ATT at the time. Thanks for your input.
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No problem. I know what you mean, I had AT&T a long time ago too and moved to Verizon when they changed their unlimited data policy. So it's ironic that I am now switching back. AT&T has done a good job of courting Android phone makers, and Verizon seems to be in the honeymoon phase of having the iPhone now. It's weird how things have flip-flopped! AT&T also has a few more consumer-friendly policies such as not forcing customers into a Share Everything data plan if you aren't already grandfathered in. They have rollover minutes (which I know isn't a big deal these day with people using voice less). And they have Mobile to ANY Mobile rather than just Mobile to Mobile, which is a small advantage I know.
But yeah, the primary consideration is how each carrier performs in your area. If both are good (like in my area), you have more options.
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honestly i would move to verizon right now if i could, in my area better coverage + better speeds
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Yes, if one carrier has better coverage and speeds in your area, then it makes sense to use that carrier. In my area, Verizon's LTE has been around for almost two years now and I rarely get more than 10 Mbps downloads. Usually it hovers around 5-9 Mbps, which is not even much better than AT&T's HSPA+, let alone LTE. And when my phones on Verizon drop down to 3G, it feels like dialup speeds. So far, AT&T is noticeable better for speeds between my HTC One and iPhone 5.
But again, YMMV and this is just a subjective observation on my part. To the OP, you could always give AT&T a shot for 14 days and compare the networks. If it doesn't work out, you can cancel and just pay the restocking fee. Just use the new phone with a new number, so you don't have to port and cancel your old line yet.
It all depends on your location really. I live near philly and the service has actually been a bit better on att then verizon from when i had them a few years ago. The speeds are also better on att thanks to it not being cdma but rather hspa. Overall I would never go back to verizon due to their prices and slower speeds unless I moved somewhere where they had clearly better service than all other companies.
So what about dropped calls. I barely have any on Verizon, but I remember having them on AT&T. Does being on LTE fix that or is it still a problem?
I went from Verizon (been a customer for 10 years) to At&t recently because my wife's office only gets At&t reception and we wanted to be on a Mobile Share plan instead of having two separate accounts (saves us around 40 a month). I've had an At&t line over the years for work, so I know the coverage isn't NEARLY as good as Verizon, especially LTE coverage in my area (At&t just went live on a few towers in my neck of the woods), but the savings is worth the sacrifice at this time.
Plus, as you said, being able to use most GSM phones on the network is a HUGE plus. Being able to run the Google Edition on my HTC One will be fantastic and I don't think Verizon is going to make it easy to run that software. Plus, as another guy mentioned above, that persistent Wifi thing Verizon does is sooooooo annoying. Almost as bad as At&t putting their name in the notification bar of the GS3/GS4. At least it goes away after a few seconds on the HTC One.
I haven't had many dropped calls on At&t, but calls are not what I do the most of, so I'm a bad barometer for that. I know the wife drops a bunch but I just attributed it to being the Nexus 4 and not a tried and true, tested, At&t phone. She has a GS4 now, so we'll see if that improves.
Anyway, in short, I did it for strictly monetary reasons, but the plus sides of At&t are numerous so it's not as bad as thought it would be.
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I went from Verizon (been a customer for 10 years) to At&t recently because my wife's office only gets At&t reception and we wanted to be on a Mobile Share plan instead of having two separate accounts (saves us around 40 a month). I've had an At&t line over the years for work, so I know the coverage isn't NEARLY as good as Verizon, especially LTE coverage in my area (At&t just went live on a few towers in my neck of the woods), but the savings is worth the sacrifice at this time.
Plus, as you said, being able to use most GSM phones on the network is a HUGE plus. Being able to run the Google Edition on my HTC One will be fantastic and I don't think Verizon is going to make it easy to run that software. Plus, as another guy mentioned above, that persistent Wifi thing Verizon does is sooooooo annoying. Almost as bad as At&t putting their name in the notification bar of the GS3/GS4. At least it goes away after a few seconds on the HTC One.
I haven't had many dropped calls on At&t, but calls are not what I do the most of, so I'm a bad barometer for that. I know the wife drops a bunch but I just attributed it to being the Nexus 4 and not a tried and true, tested, At&t phone. She has a GS4 now, so we'll see if that improves.
Anyway, in short, I did it for strictly monetary reasons, but the plus sides of At&t are numerous so it's not as bad as thought it would be.
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Thats what I am afraid of. My wife values the voice and I value the data. So dropped calls don't bother me as much, but it would really bother my wife. Especially coming from Verizon with very few dropped calls.
I dropped Verizon last year for AT&T and, despite the few rough patches everyone else has mentioned, it was worth it. No one can beat Verizon's LTE network coverage at this point, but I was so fed up with their other BS on updates and pretty scanty selection of phones that I did what you did and suspended my service for a month to see what happened. At first they weren't perfect, but I was fine with them and loved that I could go from a US SGS3 to an international One X without a hitch. Also, AT&T's coverage (both 3G and LTE) has expanded greatly in quality and quantity over the last 6 months where I'm at for work and everyday life. So now I've finally convinced my wife to drop them also and thus ending our 12 year run with Verizon and their devolution into Apple-like "It's our way or you don't need it" business model.
Will I ever go back? Not until I can buy a new phone from anywhere I want and activate it on their network. And I believe it'll be a cold day in heck before that is ever allowed to happen!
Sorry for the confusing thread title but couldn't figure out how to word it. The issue I'm having is this , I have a normal sense HTC one from T-Mobile that I converted to a official gpe using a ruu and guide found here. From what I've read only the official gpe HTC one on T-Mobile suffers from the lack of being able to receive hspa+ where LTE is lacking, the normal version does not suffer this problem. I know this to be true as prior to converting mine I was always on LTE with great data speeds. However after converting to gpe in certain areas my phone loses LTE and goes to hspa for a brief second and then to 3g or even edge. Now from what I've read the normal HTC one model has the proper radio which prevents this while the official gpe does not. However seeing as the guide I followed he gave me a official gpe with stock recovery and boot loader I'm inclined to believe that this is just a software issue or that since mine is running the official software yet has the right radio to receive hspa+ it can no longer utilize it. As u can probably tell I'm new to all this. If someone can clarify this it would be great and if there is a way to restore hspa+ functionality while keeping gpe stock software on my device that would be great. The gpe is just what I've been after but I hate to suffer data speed loss in certain areas. Any help would be great guys.
i havent updated my htc one to gpe because of this same reason, ive been trying to find out if theres a way around but im a little confused, because normaly this hapens whens the phone doesnt support that type of band, i had a note1 that i flashed a tmob modem and worked 4g, i hope something like that can be made so i ca use gpe with my one :fingers-crossed:
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Sorry for the confusing thread title but couldn't figure out how to word it. The issue I'm having is this , I have a normal sense HTC one from T-Mobile that I converted to a official gpe using a ruu and guide found here. From what I've read only the official gpe HTC one on T-Mobile suffers from the lack of being able to receive hspa+ where LTE is lacking, the normal version does not suffer this problem. I know this to be true as prior to converting mine I was always on LTE with great data speeds. However after converting to gpe in certain areas my phone loses LTE and goes to hspa for a brief second and then to 3g or even edge. Now from what I've read the normal HTC one model has the proper radio which prevents this while the official gpe does not. However seeing as the guide I followed he gave me a official gpe with stock recovery and boot loader I'm inclined to believe that this is just a software issue or that since mine is running the official software yet has the right radio to receive hspa+ it can no longer utilize it. As u can probably tell I'm new to all this. If someone can clarify this it would be great and if there is a way to restore hspa+ functionality while keeping gpe stock software on my device that would be great. The gpe is just what I've been after but I hate to suffer data speed loss in certain areas. Any help would be great guys.
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Just out of curiosity, the Google edition is not designed to support HSPA+; why do you expect it to do so? I would not expect the software to be designed to work with AWS, even though the radio and radio firmware support it. The GE was designed to work with ATT hardware, and that version of software is not expecting AWS hardware to be installed.
EDIT: You know, I personally think it is stupid for HTC to have two versions of hardware for US operations on GSM. They should have put the same AWS capabilities into both ATT and TMO versions (and GE as well).
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Just out of curiosity, the Google edition is not designed to support HSPA+; why do you expect it to do so? I would not expect the software to be designed to work with AWS, even though the radio and radio firmware support it. The GE was designed to work with ATT hardware, and that version of software is not expecting AWS hardware to be installed.
EDIT: You know, I personally think it is stupid for HTC to have two versions of hardware for US operations on GSM. They should have put the same AWS capabilities into both ATT and TMO versions (and GE as well).
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Thats the thing, I dont expect it to. i didnt know this until after i switched over but seeing as the hardware is there im assuming there has to be a way to flash a radio that will allow me to keep the google software and utilize the hardware i have. since im new to this i have no idea where to begin looking for radios.
EDIT: After reading a little more here on the forum I see there are people with Tmobile Htc Ones that have switched to GPE software and are saying they get HSPA+ all the time. Im still confused though because like i said when i was on stock sense software I ALWAYS had LTE. And ever since the switch im either on LTE or I drop to HSPA+ for like two seconds and then stay on 3g. Either my LTE reception is no longer as good as it was on stock sense, or the stock sense was never telling me when i went to a lesser connection. Considering flashing a radio but dont now where to start.
This thread has officially confused me. What exactly is the problem?
I have TMO HTC ONE on GE software and it seems to work on all bands as far as I know perfectly fine? What is the issue we are talking about here?
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This thread has officially confused me. What exactly is the problem?
I have TMO HTC ONE on GE software and it seems to work on all bands as far as I know perfectly fine? What is the issue we are talking about here?
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The issue is that apparantly the tmobile GPE One which you can buy doesnt support HSPA+. I had the stock tmobile one which i converted to GPE and before the swtich I always had lte. Ever since i put GPE on my phone im either on LTE or it drops right to 3g. This led me to believe that even though my htc one doesnt suffer the physical limitation that the bought GPE One has, that of not having acces to HSPA+ bands, that maybe the software of the GPE was limiting mine to HSPA+ as well.
However now im reading that people that have flashed their phones to GPE are accessing HSPA+.
Can i ask you this. When you put GPE on your One, what version did you put on? Did you got to 4.2.2 and update to 4.3? or did you go right to 4.3? and would that make any difference?
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The issue is that apparantly the tmobile GPE One which you can buy doesnt support HSPA+. I had the stock tmobile one which i converted to GPE and before the swtich I always had lte. Ever since i put GPE on my phone im either on LTE or it drops right to 3g. This led me to believe that even though my htc one doesnt suffer the physical limitation that the bought GPE One has, that of not having acces to HSPA+ bands, that maybe the software of the GPE was limiting mine to HSPA+ as well.
However now im reading that people that have flashed their phones to GPE are accessing HSPA+.
Can i ask you this. When you put GPE on your One, what version did you put on? Did you got to 4.2.2 and update to 4.3? or did you go right to 4.3? and would that make any difference?
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I update about every day for past 4 months. Never wiped clean.
Are you aware that if the device sees a weak, it drops down to 3G/HSPA+ mode. HSPA uses more power then 3G. So when the phone is idle and not pushing mass amounts of data, it sits on 3G. When you push data for a number of seconds, its switches up to HSPA+ then idles back at 3G to use less power...could this be what you are referring to?
On Stock Sense, you will not see this as they hide it in the back ground...where as on GE they tell you the truth
umrico said:
I update about every day for past 4 months. Never wiped clean.
Are you aware that if the device sees a weak, it drops down to 3G/HSPA+ mode. HSPA uses more power then 3G. So when the phone is idle and not pushing mass amounts of data, it sits on 3G. When you push data for a number of seconds, its switches up to HSPA+ then idles back at 3G to use less power...could this be what you are referring to?
On Stock Sense, you will not see this as they hide it in the back ground...where as on GE they tell you the truth
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Yes maybe that is what was happening because i was never really trying to access the internet, I was just keeping an eye on my phone to see what network it was on.
And I had a feeling that the sense version was just hiding that from me..
Thanks for the help, you pretty much clarified what i needed to know. Now if I can just find out what I have to do in order to receive OTA updates I will be good to go..
Just to add my own 2 cents: I fully converted my TMob HTC One to GPe 4.2.2 last wording just to make sure I could OTA when 4.4 hit.
It updated to 4.3 via OTA just fine and has been on LTE all morning. HSPA+ also seems to work fine when I'm outside the LTE area.
Not sure if that helps at all, but you definitely should be getting LTE and hspa+ if you did a full conversion from a TMob handset.
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PhoenixPath said:
Just to add my own 2 cents: I fully converted my TMob HTC One to GPe 4.2.2 last wording just to make sure I could OTA when 4.4 hit.
It updated to 4.3 via OTA just fine and has been on LTE all morning. HSPA+ also seems to work fine when I'm outside the LTE area.
Not sure if that helps at all, but you definitely should be getting LTE and hspa+ if you did a full conversion from a TMob handset.
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I realized as previous poster said that it displays 3g when idle. However my signal seems weaker now since converting in areas I had three bars of LTE before switch I get one or two of HEPA+. Have u noticed any reception loss.
Also did u get out with stock mid as I only changed Cid to googlOOO
wakeup6621 said:
I realized as previous poster said that it displays 3g when idle. However my signal seems weaker now since converting in areas I had three bars of LTE before switch I get one or two of HEPA+. Have u noticed any reception loss.
Also did u get out with stock mid as I only changed Cid to googlOOO
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I did the full conversion - swapped bootloaders, wrote cid/mod (CID to GOOGL000 and MID to PN0710000), and then flashed the GPe RUU for 4.2.2 in fastboot RUU mode.
(I've actually used similar methods for converting this device to dev and international editions as well in the past using only different CID/MID combinations in order to get OTAs).
All conversions have resulted in HSPA+ and LTE connectivity. I've never really been concerned about speeds as they've always been "good enough" for me, but the few speed-tests I've run have always been at least 15mbit or higher (38mbit being the highest I've seen to date).
At some point I'll post the process and CID/MID combinations that have gotten me success on my T-Mobile One. It requires a modified hboot that can be scary at points (no screen, have to hold the power button for *ages* to get it into RUU mode, etc), but gets the job done.
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I did the full conversion - swapped bootloaders, wrote cid/mod (CID to GOOGL000 and MID to PN0710000), and then flashed the GPe RUU for 4.2.2 in fastboot RUU mode.
(I've actually used similar methods for converting this device to dev and international editions as well in the past using only different CID/MID combinations in order to get OTAs).
All conversions have resulted in HSPA+ and LTE connectivity. I've never really been concerned about speeds as they've always been "good enough" for me, but the few speed-tests I've run have always been at least 15mbit or higher (38mbit being the highest I've seen to date).
At some point I'll post the process and CID/MID combinations that have gotten me success on my T-Mobile One. It requires a modified hboot that can be scary at points (no screen, have to hold the power button for *ages* to get it into RUU mode, etc), but gets the job done.
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I'm fully converted to 4.3 gpe like I said I've only changed Cid to that of gpe. I was worried about not receiving it's updates but have read posts which confirm u can get then without changing mid. I was just wondering I'd after u received ota if your data speeds were better. Its hard to tell because while on stock sense I always displayed LTE as it apparently doesn't let you know when u switch networks. Noe on gpe I'm only getting hspa+ or 3g in areas which according to T-Mobile coverage maps I should get LTE I'm wondering I'd thid was always the case and I just didn't know. My speeds are sufficient for web browsing and YouTube everywhere I'm just the type that wants to know what is happening andbifbi can make it better I will do so. I've reqd of people getting better LTE after converting and then receiving 4.3 ota. This just doesn't seem to be my experience but their so many variables that its hard to say. Thanks for input though
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I'm only getting hspa+ or 3g in areas which according to T-Mobile coverage maps I should get LTE I'm wondering I'd thid was always the case and I just didn't know.
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I'm pretty sure T-Mobile doesn't show LTE coverage on their maps (there's a lot of gaps so this is for PR reasons). "4G" is either HSPA+ or LTE coverage on T-Mobile's maps, but they do not distinguish. The stock ROM (sense) will display "4G" for HSPA+ coverage, while the GPE ROM doesn't. It's still the same coverage. I think this is what's happening to you.
To clear up some confusion, all HTC One versions support HSPA+. It's a question of which frequencies they support it on. The GPe and Dev edition do not support Band 4 HSPA+ (AKA 1700 Mhz, or AWS). T-Mobile uses AWS HSPA+ on a majority of their "4G" footprint. Only areas that are getting LTE have Band II (1900 Mhz) HSPA+. This is done in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE. Even within reframed areas, such as southern CA, AWS HSPA+ coverage is better (as not all towers have been, or it seems will be upgraded to LTE and reframed Band II HSPA+). Therefore the GPe will have significantly worse data coverage.
It's possible that the GPe conversion will disable Band 4 HSPA+ coverage on the T-Mobile variant. This is what the discussion should be about. If you're connected to an LTE tower, nothing should change. The GPe edition supports band 4 LTE, which is what T-Mobile uses anyway It's likely that you didn't have LTE before in these locations, and all that's changed is the display icon. Hope this helps.
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It's possible that the GPe conversion will disable Band 4 HSPA+ coverage on the T-Mobile variant. This is what the discussion should be about.
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I'm a clueless n00b, but my suspicion given all I've read about AWS and the M7 is that a GPE RUU won't disable the band, but the GPE baseband may not be optimized or may otherwise be unable to take advantage of that extra band that's not present in PN07120. If that's the case, I would imagine that flashing a T-Mobile radio onto a PN07130 [T-Mobile] One converted into a GPE would solve the problem and give you coverage identical to a bone stock PN07130.
The main reason I think this is that no one has had any success enabling AWS on the ATT/GPE/Dev variants by flashing T-Mobile radios or RUUs. I doubt you can 'disable' the band at anything lower than a superficial level, and even then I'm betting it's not 'disabling' as much as it is the GPE baseband not being programmed with AWS HSPA in mind.
I'll be in a position to find this out soon, as I'm probably going to sell my AT&T One and get a T-Mobile variant. I have a pretty decent idea of what kind of [crappy] coverage you get on a device lacking AWS (and I'm in a refarmed area).
I recently purchased my Oppo R5 from Hong Kong, and was told it would work here in the US (Pennsylvania) on my current Verizon network on 3G. SIM card inserted, contacts updated, but when trying to call/text; "Mobile Network Not Available" message comes up. Can anyone help me out?? It shows no service; which I don't understand why...
Much appreciated!!!
Whoever told you that the R5 would work on Verizon was incorrect. The R5 is a GSM device, while Verizon requires CDMA devices for their network. (sometimes you can use Verizons CDMA devices on GSM networks though, since the newer devices have SIM slots and support GSM networks).
You should be able to use it on AT&T or TMo (or something like StraightTalk or Cricket)
Don't Update if You have ROOT, here's why, ColorOS <====
Use straight talk, it works good in US, and its cheaper than Verizon. I have straight talk on my R5 in Northern California, works great at my house, way better then 4GLte from Verizon. H+ speeds very effective not much difference coming from 3-4 bars of 4GLTE from Verizon(GS$ i9545, Now I get full bars H+ for 45 dollars amonth no tax, whereas before I was paying verizon 77.43 a month. LOL I am having the trouble getting my apps to work. i cannot get spotify to work and I can't get any sync action because google play services isn't working. OMG the phone was absolutely amazing rooted (more perfect out of the box than any phone ever, rooted)with like super duper battery life I'm talking like 2 days+ and now, **** man, I shouldn't updated :/ damnit color OS, had my phone perfect and everything GONE because of update. Oh well, live and learn, I'm just figuring out to turn off windows updates. LOL its been two weeks, :**************************************crying: Oh yea, StraightTalk.com offers better packages also, for less money, so you get more, even if you don't get 4g, I don't think that is going to happen with this phone for some time. If someone gets 4GLTE working, I would like to know. Thank You and Good day.
~Pooton:sillySmg just gimme what I had, it was amazing.
Verizon uses CDMA bands along with Sprint, whereas T-Mobile and AT&T use GSM bands, so your pretty much SOL unless you switch over to T-Mo or AT&T.