[Q] 4.2 rooted but how to update without losing root? - Xperia Tablet Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all,
so here is the situation:
I have an xperia tablet z (wifi only, 16gb) with stock firmware 4.2 rooted.
Bootloader is unlocked by default.
I would like to install official 4.3 but how do I do that without losing root?
The OTA does not work, so I will need another solution.
A step by step guide would be very nice. I guess I'm not the only one struggling with this.
Thank you very much in advance.

rooted but bootloader not unlocked and OTA does not work for me ?

I also need some help with this. I want to update to 4.3 via OTA, and still keep root. My bootloader is not unlocked, and I don't really want to unlock it. The update I tried failed (could not install). I understand that flashtool would fix this, but I believe you need BL unlocked.

took the plunge with sony companion even thou i knew i would lose root.
oh man, 4.3 is a beauty. The screen lag has gone, the tablet has become butter smooth to operate. Had this tablet come with 4.3 from day one, it would have been a killer.

I don't know if this would work, but you could try a dirty flash of an ftf through flashtool. Just get an ftf online with the 4.3 ROM, and then uncheck the wipe data option. This won't work on large updates, but this is only a point update so it is worth a try. Actually, come to think of it, I don't think it would be compatible. Try CM and if you love the Sony skin I'm sure you could find a theme. that would run really nicely with that s4 pro under that beautiful display. Sorry, that was a rather unhelpful post!
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Official ics or not?

Before I start, I'd first like to thank the xda community for all the fantastic work they put into the scene, and this site.
So,I have two questions regarding the SE xperia ray, the first being, should I go for the official ics update? I've searched and searched for peoples impressions of it and come up with very little. I almost upgraded last night, and chickened out; what if it's laggy and buggy like some have suggested? So I'd like peoples opinions on the pros and cons.
The other thing I was wondering was is unlocking the bootloader a no no if you use Sony's official software to update?
The idea being that I can back up my current setup so I can revert back to it (or try custom roms) if I don't like Sony's version of ics.
So, should I just root/unlock and use other methods to install ics, and is it even worth bothering with the Sony version anyway?
Thanks in advance for any advice
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Edit: typical n00b ballz up as to where this should be posted, apologies to the mod (s)
Edit2: I'm an idiot who should really know better, found most of the answers I'm after in the Q&A, by all means delete the thread, although I'm still curious about peoples opinions on ics. One again big sorry to the mod (s)
hi
1) should u update to 4.0. the answer, up to you? its your own phone. if its too buggy or you find you like gb better than ics, then use flashtools and downgrade.
2)im pretty sure if u unlock your bootloader (official, setools, setool2) you can still update through pccompanion or update service, JUST NOT OTA. ota is updating straight through your phone. if you do update, u get fota brick.. which imma tell is scary. ummm.. i did that and my phone would not boot up. it was stuck in flash mode and i could not get into fastboot. but if u do your homework, u should be fine.
3) the idea that you can backup? im not sure what question ur asking, or im a idiot and i cant read... (it happens....-_-) you CAN root and install cwm to back up a nandroid, which is literally the exact copy of ur phone. if u instal a kernel and a custom rom and u find out...oh [email protected]#%% its stuck in bootloop, u can always back it up and you would be fine. theortically, i have not tried it myself..
4)ok this is how i think u should root and install ics....
first, i think you should unlock your bootloader. its pretty. i screwed 20 times before actually getting it work. (my drivers werent installed)
then i suggest you upgrade to official ics through pcc
then root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600728
ummmm i personally decided to wait for a more stable version of ics... so what i did was i was on .62gb and i unlocked my bootloader using setools since it preserves drm keys and its free,
then i took flashtools and downgraded to .42...
then i rooted and installed cwm
then backed up nandroid
then im here =D hi
X) <- i forgot what number im on and im too lazy to scroll up...
im assuming ur talking about sonys official website on unlocking bootloader? i suggest u dont do that unless u dont want to pay 20-40 bucks on ur model. if setools supports ur xperia device, then use that because the sony offical method deletes ur drm keys which would cause apps like trackid and video unlimited to stop working...permanantly. even if u relock ur bootloader, ur still screwed =D
hope i was helpful
icefire7460 said:
1) should u update to 4.0. the answer, up to you? its your own phone. if its too buggy or you find you like gb better than ics, then use flashtools and downgrade.
2)im pretty sure if u unlock your bootloader (official, setools, setool2) you can still update through pccompanion or update service, JUST NOT OTA. ota is updating straight through your phone. if you do update, u get fota brick.. which imma tell is scary. ummm.. i did that and my phone would not boot up. it was stuck in flash mode and i could not get into fastboot. but if u do your homework, u should be fine.
3) the idea that you can backup? im not sure what question ur asking, or im a idiot and i cant read... (it happens....-_-) you CAN root and install cwm to back up a nandroid, which is literally the exact copy of ur phone. if u instal a kernel and a custom rom and u find out...oh [email protected]#%% its stuck in bootloop, u can always back it up and you would be fine. theortically, i have not tried it myself..
4)ok this is how i think u should root and install ics....
first, i think you should unlock your bootloader. its pretty. i screwed 20 times before actually getting it work. (my drivers werent installed)
then i suggest you upgrade to official ics through pcc
then root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600728
ummmm i personally decided to wait for a more stable version of ics... so what i did was i was on .62gb and i unlocked my bootloader using setools since it preserves drm keys and its free,
then i took flashtools and downgraded to .42...
then i rooted and installed cwm
then backed up nandroid
then im here =D hi
X) <- i forgot what number im on and im too lazy to scroll up...
im assuming ur talking about sonys official website on unlocking bootloader? i suggest u dont do that unless u dont want to pay 20-40 bucks on ur model. if setools supports ur xperia device, then use that because the sony offical method deletes ur drm keys which would cause apps like trackid and video unlimited to stop working...permanantly. even if u relock ur bootloader, ur still screwed =D
hope i was helpful
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Newer versions of TrackID still work even after you unlock the official way. The version of TrackID that ships with Sony's ICS update, and which is available on the market, doesn't seem to care about the DRM at all.
To answer the op, ICS has been ridiculously smooth and stable for me. That being said, I didn't spend very much time with the official ICS update from Sony, I don't like what Sony have done with the messages app and so on in ICS, when the stock android messaging/dialler app is so much nicer, so I've been running CM9 and AOKP for the past two or three months.
During the brief time I /did/ run Sony's ICS update, I didn't notice any stability issues and while CM9/AOKP seem faster, it wasn't exactly slow.
I'd say upgrade if you really want to, because you're not going to notice much difference in the overall stability or speed of it, and ICS by itself is downright lovely.

[Q][Mini Pro][Firmware]Last Firmware before ICS available anywhere?

Hello,
I am looking for the last pre ICS firmware for my SK17i. I am currently back on 4.0.2.A.0.42 since ICS was not the best performance wise and the notification LED didn't work (please let's not discuss ICS vs. GB here)
So now I wanted to flash the latest pre-ICS firmware which as far as I know is 4.0.2.A.0.69 (only for germany, but that's where I live). Or 4.0.2.A.0.62 which maybe is easier to find. Now I do know about the !PreRooted 4.0.2.A.0.69 in this thread. However I had quite a few problems with aswell as others described in this thread. Most importantly the flashlight wasn't working at all, the keyboard layout was way off (not just qwerty instead of my german qwertz). I'd really appreciate any help in this matter.
Also: I am a complete newb concerning android but I tried my beast to research this before posting
Thanks,
SM
Keyboard layout depends on the firmware region.
Flashlight problem seems to be related to the baseband, I have heard. Even though I kind of doubt it, but still worth of trying.
If you root your .42, you should be able to update via OTA (it means via WiFi and the app Update Centre) to the last 2.3.4 build without loosing root
Thanks Feanor88! I had only opened the update centre once and it told me everthing was up to date (forgot to refresh/recheck via menu).
Now it show's the international 4.0.2.A.0.62 Upgrade. But if I try to install it it reboots a couple of times and then starts up with the old FW and tells me the install was not possible and I should try again. Which I did with the same outcome. Any Idea what could be the hinderance? I'm rooted with CWM installed, bootloader is locked (never touched it).
Suicide Machine said:
Thanks Feanor88! I had only opened the update centre once and it told me everthing was up to date (forgot to refresh/recheck via menu).
Now it show's the international 4.0.2.A.0.62 Upgrade. But if I try to install it it reboots a couple of times and then starts up with the old FW and tells me the install was not possible and I should try again. Which I did with the same outcome. Any Idea what could be the hinderance? I'm rooted with CWM installed, bootloader is locked (never touched it).
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CWM is the trouble creator. You will need to come back to stock and then try.
Cheers,
Rick
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DragonClawsAreSharp said:
CWM is the trouble creator. You will need to come back to stock and then try.
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Thank you, that did it. Now I'm on the .62 GB firmware which I'm much happier with than ICS. At least now my Sound in Navigon and Skype work correctly, aswell as the notification LED and games like Osmos don't randomly quit

Some questions about bootloader and rooting

Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? Does this affect the updates in any way? If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
The main benefit of rooting your phone is you can install any software you want, some apps need root permission, you can also customize UI, tweak performance, making a better battery life, etc.
on this device, you can relock it. If you doubt about your warranty, you can use the rooting with locked bootloader method. but you still need to relock if you want to claim your warranty in some cases. I hope you will not.
my advice is just use to your phone first, you enjoy with keyboard, texting, surfing on google play, bla bla bla. You will find the answer why you want to root or not.
I already know that I want to root my phone, the main reason is to get rid of the ads.
I'm just not sure, which is the preferred method of rooting it. I'm curious what's going to happen to future updates if I root the phone (some say, that every firmware unroots the phone).
KlemenKosir said:
Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything.1. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? 2. Does this affect the updates in any way? 3. If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
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I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
My opinion:
Keep the BL locked, so you don't loose the DRM Keys, and follow the Root with BL Locked Guide to obtain Root Acess...
Unless you really want to have a tweaked kernel you wont need to Unlock the BL
Felimenta97 said:
I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
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Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
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Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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gm007 said:
Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
KlemenKosir said:
What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
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The advanced stock kernel is same as stock without overclocking,and default governor.
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So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
KlemenKosir said:
So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
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Yes. Pretty much that.
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Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
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I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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elvirag said:
I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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Well, for starters, I'm only going to root the phone. After some time, I'll maybe consider trying other ROMs.
Any ROM can be used in Locked BL (rooted)?

[Q] Xperia Ray not working properly after flashing and rooting. What to do?

Hello everyone.
I tried rooting my Xperia ray today using this guide: http://mytechencounters.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/root-your-xperia-phone-without-voiding-warranty/
Bear with me, you might find all of this tedious to read. My phone came with GB 2.3.4 build .62 which is hard to root. So as the above guide directed, I downloaded a .42 build firmware, CE(Central Europe perhaps? I don't know) and tried to flash it using flashtool. I disconnected the phone from the PC in between. My phone wouldn't boot. Then I used SUS and updated it to ICS, making the phone work. I then flashed it to GB .42 patiently, and with success. Alas, problems started immediately. Many processes such as media, calender storage, acro etc came up as stopped working. Even after selecting force close they would keep appearing. I cleared the respective cache/data and the notifications stopped. Then I rooted it using Doomlord's toolkit, and updated to .62 via OTA, keeping my root. A few things have changed. The keyboard name is the same, International keyboard, but it is different and I don't like it. Camera is not working. Screen goes blank if I open the camera. Messaging does not work and the messaging app crashes as soon as I open it. No contacts are found, despite importing them again. (They all show up when using the import from SIM option, it says importing is done but they are nowhere to be found). I called someone manually. While calling his name shows up but my contacts is completely blank. Google search is not working and it crashes too. There might be other problems, but I haven't checked. Anything in particular to check? Please help me solve all these issues. I'm glad my phone is rooted now, but it's next to useless due to all this. Please help me.
Great. Even the screen unlock security seems to not work. No slide to unlock. No pattern unlock even though I saved a pattern. I press the power button, the phone just shows the home. No security. How do I fix all this? PC Companion? SUS? And I don't want ICS so I won't use them if that's what they're going to update my phone to rather than fix it.
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
mihahn said:
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
Androman117 said:
Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
mihahn said:
No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
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Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
Androman117 said:
Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
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Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
mihahn said:
Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
Androman117 said:
Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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For me it's better than gingerbread, but I don't often play games on phone, only somteims, but the games are going well :good:
The rom is only for unlocked bootloader and I didn't upload, but another member in development section did
No I'm not using any mods or tweaks, just sd maid to clean my sd sometimes, but jellybean is running smooth without any tweaks
Androman117 said:
Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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I think you have gotten a lot of good advice from Mihahn and I just wanted to add some suggestions before you unlock your bootloader...you probably want to get comfortable working with CWM Recovery. It has been a while since I did this on GB but there are a bunch of tools that you can use to put recovery onto GB stock roms and a good place to start is this thread in Ray Dev: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426912
Also before you decide you just gotta have a certain ROM, take a good look at the OP for the ROM....there may be something not working correctly that would be a deal breaker for you....there are some features that only work properly on a stock based ROM. This is particularly true of the Jelly Bean 4.2 build for the Ray....the 4.1 ROMs are working pretty good.....but if you absolutely love the sony camera app then you have to stay on a stock ROM.
Have fun!

[Q] Got some questions about Root and Jelly Bean

Hi!
Before the OTA jelly bean upgrade i had rooted my tablet using DebugfsRoot primarily for the reason that i wanted to use my PS3 controller with the tab.
Everything went good and i had a blast, then the OTA upgrade came. I was really stocked to try out jelly bean so i decided to take the upgrade even though i knew it would break my root (i was thinking there will probably be another way to root again in a few weeks).
I later cleared the tablets memory and it's SD-card to get a smoother experience on JB.
So here i am, jelly bean and not rooted. I've begun researching how to get my root back and from what I've gathered i need to:
unlock the bootloader,
downgrade to ISC,
root,
save the root,
upgrade to jelly bean,
recover the root.
That's a lot of steps for someone who has only rooted using the automated tool, and to be honest it scared me a little.
I just wanted to know if there is any other (preferably easier) way and if i can lock the bootloader after I've unlocked it (since the warranty goes away).
If there isn't any easier way, does anyone of you know a step-by-step guide i can follow?
Thanks,
Tallkotten
Tallkotten said:
Hi!
Before the OTA jelly bean upgrade i had rooted my tablet using DebugfsRoot primarily for the reason that i wanted to use my PS3 controller with the tab.
Everything went good and i had a blast, then the OTA upgrade came. I was really stocked to try out jelly bean so i decided to take the upgrade even though i knew it would break my root (i was thinking there will probably be another way to root again in a few weeks).
I later cleared the tablets memory and it's SD-card to get a smoother experience on JB.
So here i am, jelly bean and not rooted. I've begun researching how to get my root back and from what I've gathered i need to:
unlock the bootloader,
downgrade to ISC,
root,
save the root,
upgrade to jelly bean,
recover the root.
That's a lot of steps for someone who has only rooted using the automated tool, and to be honest it scared me a little.
I just wanted to know if there is any other (preferably easier) way and if i can lock the bootloader after I've unlocked it (since the warranty goes away).
If there isn't any easier way, does anyone of you know a step-by-step guide i can follow?
Thanks,
Tallkotten
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You cannot downgrade to ICS unless you did nvflash while on ICS which you haven't.
Your process would be, unlock bootloader, install TWRP recovery, flash custom jellybean rom with root built in.
flumpster said:
You cannot downgrade to ICS unless you did nvflash while on ICS which you haven't.
Your process would be, unlock bootloader, install TWRP recovery, flash custom jellybean rom with root built in.
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Thanks, but then i wont be able to have the vanilla android experience. Or is it any ROM that's basically the same as normal android but root in it?
Why is it that i cant just unlock bootloader and then root? Do i really need to swap roms?
Tallkotten said:
Thanks, but then i wont be able to have the vanilla android experience. Or is it any ROM that's basically the same as normal android but root in it?
Why is it that i cant just unlock bootloader and then root? Do i really need to swap roms?
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Hairybean 1.51 is basically the stock rom experience with root and speed tweaks.
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Hairybean 1.51 is basically the stock rom experience with root and speed tweaks.
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I see, thank you very much.
It just seems like a lot of stuff to go through compared to that automated root. Never wanted to change ROMS :/
Are you certain there isn't any other way?
Tallkotten said:
I see, thank you very much.
It just seems like a lot of stuff to go through compared to that automated root. Never wanted to change ROMS :/
Are you certain there isn't any other way?
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Well u can unlock, flash twrp and then just flash a root zip in TWRP but that is no less steps than flashing the rom and you have none of the speed improvements. The reason most people unlock is to install the custom rom because it is far faster than stock but if that's what you want to do so be it
flumpster said:
Well u can unlock, flash twrp and then just flash a root zip in TWRP but that is no less steps than flashing the rom and you have none of the speed improvements. The reason most people unlock is to install the custom rom because it is far faster than stock but if that's what you want to do so be it
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It's just that if i flash a ROM then i (since i like to be thorough) have to research and spend lots of time checking which ROM is best for me
We'll see what i end up doing.
Do you know how the warranty is affected by unlocking? And can it be restored to it's original state after an unlock?
Tallkotten said:
It's just that if i flash a ROM then i (since i like to be thorough) have to research and spend lots of time checking which ROM is best for me
We'll see what i end up doing.
Do you know how the warranty is affected by unlocking? And can it be restored to it's original state after an unlock?
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There is no research to do. You say you want it like stock, that only leaves hairybean 1.51 for you.
Once you are unlocked you cannot relock and your warranty is void.
flumpster said:
There is no research to do. You say you want it like stock, that only leaves hairybean 1.51 for you.
Once you are unlocked you cannot relock and your warranty is void.
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Ok, thanks for your help. I'm still undecided on what to do at the moment :/
Tallkotten said:
Ok, thanks for your help. I'm still undecided on what to do at the moment :/
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I'm in almost the exact same position you're in. Had root on ICS, lost it on the change to JB. I have several months left on my warranty so am uneasy unlocking and voiding my safety net. Having said that my Prime has zero problems and works as expected, but still I'm reluctant.
I've read through every page on HairyBean and Energy threads and am busting to experience them...especially Energy as it seems to get updated with stunning regularity. But I also believe Asus 4.2 update is coming soon and think it will further enhance the stock OS. Fark, dunno man.....lol I'll do it if you will
tweeny80 said:
I'm in almost the exact same position you're in. Had root on ICS, lost it on the change to JB. I have several months left on my warranty so am uneasy unlocking and voiding my safety net. Having said that my Prime has zero problems and works as expected, but still I'm reluctant.
I've read through every page on HairyBean and Energy threads and am busting to experience them...especially Energy as it seems to get updated with stunning regularity. But I also believe Asus 4.2 update is coming soon and think it will further enhance the stock OS. Fark, dunno man.....lol I'll do it if you will
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Some observations. I am not sure what the actual percentage is but from what I have seen most of the people who have sent their prime in for warranty work have gotten back a prime that can not be unlocked. I am pretty sure that if I got green camera or something of that nature I would just live with it or repair it myself. If and when ASUS releases a 4.2 update it will be an improvement to the stock os that will still not bring stock os on locked prime to a fraction of the speed and productivity available on an unlocked prime using a custom rom. Further anything asus releases will be available within the week with improvements by devs for unlocked primes. The warranty on the prime is for people who have the explicit goal to keep the tablet mediocre at best.
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I'm in almost the exact same position you're in. Had root on ICS, lost it on the change to JB. I have several months left on my warranty so am uneasy unlocking and voiding my safety net. Having said that my Prime has zero problems and works as expected, but still I'm reluctant.
I've read through every page on HairyBean and Energy threads and am busting to experience them...especially Energy as it seems to get updated with stunning regularity. But I also believe Asus 4.2 update is coming soon and think it will further enhance the stock OS. Fark, dunno man.....lol I'll do it if you will
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Haha. Just got my Nexus 4 a few days ago and i can tell you that 4.2 is awesome. I really miss it when i'm using my prime.
The only reason i'd like root is to have more freedom with my PS3 controller... Why did they have to go and make is so hard to root? :/
Will there ever be a way to root JB without unlock the Prime or is that technically impossible?
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Will there ever be a way to root JB without unlock the Prime or is that technically impossible?
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I'd love an answer to this as well
Tallkotten said:
I'd love an answer to this as well
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So much time passed and nobody answered this important question.

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