Got my Omate yesterday! Now What? - Ornate TrueSmart

Okay. Finally got my Omate. Seems to be good quality. Got out my old ATT SIM and put in there. Seems to work fine. My question is now what do I do with it. I remember when they first announced it that google play store was an option, but it appears that didn't work out. There was such a lag between order and when I got it that I kind of lost track of what was going on with it. So what do I do with it now. I would to get some play store apps on it, and is it possible for it to connect to my iPhone?

Mhotep06 said:
Okay. Finally got my Omate. Seems to be good quality. Got out my old ATT SIM and put in there. Seems to work fine. My question is now what do I do with it. I remember when they first announced it that google play store was an option, but it appears that didn't work out. There was such a lag between order and when I got it that I kind of lost track of what was going on with it. So what do I do with it now. I would to get some play store apps on it, and is it possible for it to connect to my iPhone?
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Think the watch only works with android phones, but i could be wrong.

No iOS support til the x201 gets updated to 4.3 or better.

How about the google play store. Is that an option?

Mhotep06 said:
How about the google play store. Is that an option?
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You can install whatever you want. Play Store is one of the first things to get put on. Google the .apk file and install it.

And the first thing he should do is?

*raises hand* pick me pick me...apply your patch

Apply patch, install custom ROM, anything to get off of stock firmware.

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*raises hand* pick me pick me...apply your patch
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LOL. Thanks Guys. So I can just install the APK for the play store without rooting or doing anything to the Omate. And what is the "patch"?

You can do that, install the Play Store and necessary GApps to support it via a link to an AndroidPolice article you will find in a number of places. If you do though, the watch is totally open to any malicious app that might want your passwords, like to your Google account, since everything on the unlatched TrueSmart runs with root privileges by default. Wide open, except for well behaved apps that ask for root through SU...those won't work (like Root Explorer) because there is no su to ask for elevated privileges. I think I got that mostly right ?
Anyway, unless you have some particular reason to run your TrueSmart totally insecurely, exposing all the private data and credentials it ever touches, run Loki's Enhanced Security patch immediately. Before you first type in your Google account credentials.
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As a noob to this device. What ROM recommendations do you all have?

trent999 said:
You can do that, install the Play Store and necessary GApps to support it via a link to an AndroidPolice article you will find in a number of places. If you do though, the watch is totally open to any malicious app that might want your passwords, like to your Google account, since everything on the unlatched TrueSmart runs with root privileges by default. Wide open, except for well behaved apps that ask for root through SU...those won't work (like Root Explorer) because there is no su to ask for elevated privileges. I think I got that mostly right ?
Anyway, unless you have some particular reason to run your TrueSmart totally insecurely, exposing all the private data and credentials it ever touches, run Loki's Enhanced Security patch immediately. Before you first type in your Google account credentials.
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i'd love to run Loki's patch but im not too technically inclined and would love a step by step walk thru of how you do it and what will it look like and do once its installed,

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[Workaround] Show only purchased apps in Google Play Store

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The only easy(ish) way without downgrading Google Play back to Market is to log in to https://wallet.google.com and check your Transaction History. Hope this helps
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Here is the file. Be sure to click on old market when you have it open, if you don't like it click on new market. Pretty straight forward. HOWEVER. It installed perfect for me but when I tried to get my apps up it would always time out. I think it is only because of my network though. So perhaps others should try it anyways.
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The above posts both provide a workaround/partial solution. Here is my suggestion...
If you choose to try Old Market, when you launch it you can choose "old" or "new" market. It requires root permissions to work. After selecting which Market you would like, it will reboot the device and, once it is booted, the market you chose will be installed. Take note that I did in fact still see some free apps that weren't installed, but not all of them. Perhaps they were only the apps that were downloaded to this specific device/ROM.
That said, the "old" Market is indeed the very old V2 Market. I went back to "new" Market (V3), and it upgraded itself back to Google Play after a little while.
Unless you truly like the old interface of the Market, I'd recommend you go with CosmicDan's suggestion of logging in to Google Wallet and viewing your transaction history. This will give you a list of only the apps you have purchased. Unfortunately you can not install them to your device from there, but at least you can see only the apps you have purchased without seeing every app you have ever downloaded.
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Is there a way to view only one's purchased apps in the new Play Store? The new interface for the My Apps section does not seem to have a way to do this like it used to, instead showing seemingly every app one has ever downloaded, with purchased apps mixed in (in no logical order).
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Is there a way to view only one's purchased apps in the new Play Store? The new interface for the My Apps section does not seem to have a way to do this like it used to, instead showing seemingly every app one has ever downloaded, with purchased apps mixed in (in no logical order).
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Big time bump on this! They really do need to add a tab that shows purchased not just installed and history.
Just ran across this. Hope there is a fix in the works. Not being able to sort the apps is a major FAIL.
I let my son have my old droid and he went crazy downloading what looks like every free app offered....my mistake for not creating a junk gmail account. Now I have literally hundreds and hundreds of apps listed in my app section of the play store.
Bump, I would like to know also
It appears that even the app management section of the Google Play website doesn't have this capability. On the positive side, the site looks great! -_-
This is just wrong, when you've bought allot of apps and downloaded plenty of free apps.
There's got to be an easier way to see what you've bought and redownload!
Someone got a clue?
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This is just wrong, when you've bought allot of apps and downloaded plenty of free apps.
There's got to be an easier way to see what you've bought and redownload!
Someone got a clue?
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The only easy(ish) way without downgrading Google Play back to Market is to log in to https://wallet.google.com and check your Transaction History. Hope this helps
This is such a fkn annoying issue. BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The other thing is there should be a tab to multi select app installs so you aren't directed to the install screen and forced to start from the beginning of the main screen after you go back. If that is not an option at least add the ability to install "ALL" paid apps.
Why in the hell would we not get the option to see purchased apps only but we get the option to see "ALL" downloaded apps paid or unpaid. That's just fkn ridiculous
P.S. To anyone that is going to tell me to roll back or move previous apk versions to system/app or even use an app to do it for you and blah blah blah. I have tried everything.
The closest I got was using the apk I will attach for everyone here. Be sure to unzip it and move the file to your phone and use a file explorer to install it.
Here is the file. Be sure to click on old market when you have it open, if you don't like it click on new market. Pretty straight forward. HOWEVER. It installed perfect for me but when I tried to get my apps up it would always time out. I think it is only because of my network though. So perhaps others should try it anyways.
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Here is the file. Be sure to click on old market when you have it open, if you don't like it click on new market. Pretty straight forward. HOWEVER. It installed perfect for me but when I tried to get my apps up it would always time out. I think it is only because of my network though. So perhaps others should try it anyways.
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so I should be able to choose which market I want to use on the fly when I install this apk?
This has got to be one of google's biggest recent FAILS.
It's been like this for over a month now, and what seems like a very simple and basic fix hasn't even arrived yet. Do you all think they are even aware of this being an issue for us?
My suggestion...
starplaya93 said:
so I should be able to choose which market I want to use on the fly when I install this apk?
This has got to be one of google's biggest recent FAILS.
It's been like this for over a month now, and what seems like a very simple and basic fix hasn't even arrived yet. Do you all think they are even aware of this being an issue for us?
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Please see the updated OP for my suggestion, as well as the answer to your question.
Think this will ever be resolved? this is beyond annoying. Do you think Google is even listening? Lol
crking1980 said:
Think this will ever be resolved? this is beyond annoying. Do you think Google is even listening? Lol
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Not likely any time soon in my opinion. I'm quite positive that they knowingly made the decision to change (read remove) the list of only paid apps in the Play Store, in an effort to "improve" the app. Unfortunately.
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Another Google Fail just like the crappy resolution contact pictures that they refuse to fix. Thanks google for making have to make duplicate phone contacts and link everything. Also thank you for getting rid of showing only the paid apps.
Google has always been a piece of.. garbage, but as of late, they have just been, a piece of... junk..
Well, I do not think Google forgot to have that view. From their point of view it absolutely makes sense:
If you forget about an app you bought some day, you might end up buying another one, providing the same functionality later. And that is where they get money from, not you re-installing an already bought app.
It does not go too well with the "don't be evil" motto, but this was clearly a deliberate choice by Google.
There's still the Legacy Play Store from some MoDaCo user: http://www.modaco.com/topic/356009-r2-legacy-play-store-with-all-purchased-apps-visible/ .
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There's still the Legacy Play Store from some MoDaCo user: http://www.modaco.com/topic/356009-r2-legacy-play-store-with-all-purchased-apps-visible/ .
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I was aware of that, but it does not launch. Instead it immediately upgrades to Play Store as well.
phees said:
I was aware of that, but it does not launch. Instead it immediately upgrades to Play Store as well.
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The r2 works fine for me. I've put it to /system/app … I had to delete the app data to make it run again after a reboot, though.

Watch out!

Google has very silently pushed a new app to all android devices. Its called Google settings. Now I love android but this shouldnt be allowed it does not seem to do harm but lets let the devs see
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They didn't do a good job with it since it's obviously in the app drawer for all to see
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
You can disable it by unchecking all of the read write execute in es file explorer. Or if you find an older version of the android market that is compatible with our phones. And the worse thing is it's not in the market at all it's just there.
I Personally think forcing a phone to silently install an app is wrong. Had it been a usual update that would have been smarter.
It lets you control all the google settings from one place. I for one think that's smart. Who cares if it's in your app drawer, hide it if you don't like it.
What version Google Play adds this? I haven't received it yet. I'm 100% stock and unrooted. My issue now is all of a sudden I am receiving double notifications from all my apps except gmail.
Edit. Never mind I have the app now just checked. Now if the double notifications would stop.
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This might explain it a little better
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tings-icon-its-just-google-play-services-3-0/
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The app doesn't do anything else other existing apps were not already doing. It simply aggregates all the Google settings into one cohesive place (although I feel that the 'account sync' area is better suited for this). It doesn't require any special permissions that are not already used by other Google apps.
If you do not want it either hide it like others have said or simply unlink your Google account from the device seeing that the only thing the app does is put the settings in one place and creates a platform to be able to give you MORE control over what other apps can access as far as Play Services functionality is concerned. This app is very welcomed.
Also if you are against them updating stuff without your consent, root and remove the play store -- that updates automatically as well. You're using a device that uses Google Apps as it's back end, this is expected.
Read the link ronnie posted to alleviate your concern.
Yeah but it shows how much proprietary we really don't have anymore..
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So when your Google Play app updates on it's own, that's wrong too? If it's a problem, go buy a Crapple.
Racer Of All said:
The app doesn't do anything else other existing apps were not already doing. It simply aggregates all the Google settings into one cohesive place (although I feel that the 'account sync' area is better suited for this). It doesn't require any special permissions that are not already used by other Google apps.
If you do not want it either hide it like others have said or simply unlink your Google account from the device seeing that the only thing the app does is put the settings in one place and creates a platform to be able to give you MORE control over what other apps can access as far as Play Services functionality is concerned. This app is very welcomed.
Also if you are against them updating stuff without your consent, root and remove the play store -- that updates automatically as well. You're using a device that uses Google Apps as it's back end, this is expected.
Read the link ronnie posted to alleviate your concern.
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See the play store is fine. when that updates, i get a notification of new terms and conditions, as well as it only happens with new OS releases or when i open the actual app. not radomly while im on the john or asleep.
Wasn't really a secret, they have been promoting for awhile now and there have been a few articles pre and post. It just compiles settings for their apps.
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It's a shame how many people are hating on this thread instead of seeing it for what it is. Anyways i made an app that fixes this issue in the app section and in the general I put the old og market that won't update by it's own.
Asadullah said:
It's a shame how many people are hating on this thread instead of seeing it for what it is. Anyways i made an app that fixes this issue in the app section and in the general I put the old og market that won't update by it's own.
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It's a shame how few people actually freaked out about it as opposed to the many people that really don't care.
leo72793 said:
See the play store is fine. when that updates, i get a notification of new terms and conditions, as well as it only happens with new OS releases or when i open the actual app. not radomly while im on the john or asleep.
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Did you actually read the terms you agree to every update? Because section 3 - Updates of the Play Store ToC state:
You may need to install updates to Google Play or related Google software that we introduce from time to time to use Google Play and to access or download Products. Products originating from Google may communicate with Google servers from time to time to check for available updates to the Products and to the functionality of Google Play, such as bug fixes, patches, enhanced functions, missing plug-ins and new versions (collectively, "Updates"). By using the Google Play store and installing these Products, you agree to such automatically requested and received Updates.
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Emphasis mine. Also, ignoring all that, what difference does it make if it asks you to agree? Your point was that you didn't want apps to update themselves. The play store does that, ergo it was a valid comparison.
As a matter of fact I would be more paranoid about the play store because those updates usually have new functionality. All this does is literally link you to setting screens that were already on your device and adds an area to give YOU more control cover what third party apps can access.
Looking at the dissection of the app on the link provided shows exactly what the app does. Which, by the way, the Play Services has been doing this ever since the play store launched with Android 2.2 and above (Source - Automatic Updates).
So my original advice stands, if you do not want this to continue, delete the Play Store.
TL;DR:
Play store agreement allows and makes it clear that automatic updates will happen.
App doesn't add new permissions, it links to existing menus.
This has been happening since Android 2.2 and it's nothing new.
Only way to stop it is to delete the Play Store.
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So when your Google Play app updates on it's own, that's wrong too? If it's a problem, go buy a Crapple.
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Yes you are correct that updates from a already installed app that you chose.. I don't like the fact I didn't have the choice to choose that this got installed without me knowing . You don't know Wtf this app is ..
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thlinx said:
Yes you are correct that updates from a already installed app that you chose.. I don't like the fact I didn't have the choice to choose that this got installed without me knowing . You don't know Wtf this app is ..
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Well, you didn't really choose Google Play. It's preinstalled on your phone when you buy it. The fact that the "Settings" app was pushed to the phone automatically, and is only used to change settings for Google Apps, there's really not an alarm for concern. You actually agreed to it when you bought the phone and accepted the terms when setting it up.
Glad to see this thread. I was visiting someone yesterday and messing with their gnex (I maintain it for her, in a sense) and saw this green Google settings and started freaking out cuz it was unknown where it came from, and I could not find it in either /data/app or /system/app and therefore could not remove. Also, about the same time, the email app would no longer login or sync, saying invalid password. I though it possibly related, thought Google setting was something malicious. Now I know it's legit :good:
Thanks
From my Evo LTE, yup.
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Well, you didn't really choose Google Play. It's preinstalled on your phone when you buy it. The fact that the "Settings" app was pushed to the phone automatically, and is only used to change settings for Google Apps, there's really not an alarm for concern. You actually agreed to it when you bought the phone and accepted the terms when setting it up.
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EXACTLY! Thank you!!
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eXplicit815 said:
Well, you didn't really choose Google Play. It's preinstalled on your phone when you buy it. The fact that the "Settings" app was pushed to the phone automatically, and is only used to change settings for Google Apps, there's really not an alarm for concern. You actually agreed to it when you bought the phone and accepted the terms when setting it up.
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I agreed to apps being installed on my phone without my knowledge???? I
Don't think so.. preapps already installed or the crap bloatware that's comes with the phone I remove is something I'm fully aware of, but if you think its fine by all means join the anti privacy bandwagon..
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It shows how our phones are being controlled by Google puppeteers in an open source market
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Can I stop my phone automatically installing apps?

Got a no mark S4 clone on 4.2, perfectly happy with it, got CWM and a new rom on it, its fine.
I have exposed and boot manager and once a day it has its icon telling me 'google play services' has auto installed, and every other day an app called 'recents' with a sort of C:\ terminal icon. Now, neither of these I want, I've deleted them so, SO many times, selected 'dont auto update' and also 'dont notify' from within google play, set my firewall to block anything google when on 4g etc...
Is there ANY way to stop it installing stuff I dont need?
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Got a no mark S4 clone on 4.2, perfectly happy with it, got CWM and a new rom on it, its fine.
I have exposed and boot manager and once a day it has its icon telling me 'google play services' has auto installed, and every other day an app called 'recents' with a sort of C:\ terminal icon. Now, neither of these I want, I've deleted them so, SO many times, selected 'dont auto update' and also 'dont notify' from within google play, set my firewall to block anything google when on 4g etc...
Is there ANY way to stop it installing stuff I dont need?
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The only way is to build a new aosp rom for your device. My advise is remember that you get what you pay for and clones never really have any of the hardware they claim they do. I think you will find you are better off ditching the device and buying a new one.
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The only way is to build a new aosp rom for your device. My advise is remember that you get what you pay for and clones never really have any of the hardware they claim they do. I think you will find you are better off ditching the device and buying a new one.
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That doesnt actually help me at all.
The phone is fine, no issue with it. Has a new rom on it, specs were as described, its a problem with google, and the play store auto installing, it did this on my old S2 and my galaxy tab stock, so its not the hardware.
There must be a way to stop the play store doing this apart from uninstalling the play store as I am currently doing.
robneymcplum said:
That doesnt actually help me at all.
The phone is fine, no issue with it. Has a new rom on it, specs were as described, its a problem with google, and the play store auto installing, it did this on my old S2 and my galaxy tab stock, so its not the hardware.
There must be a way to stop the play store doing this apart from uninstalling the play store as I am currently doing.
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Then that will lead me to think it is one of the apps you have installed. Some shady apps like CCleaner will install other apps. I would wipe the device completely and then install your apps one by one until you find the issue.
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Then that will lead me to think it is one of the apps you have installed. Some shady apps like CCleaner will install other apps. I would wipe the device completely and then install your apps one by one until you find the issue.
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hmmm. I will try then, my tab is stock with different apps than my phones, and my phones only share a few similar ones as one is work, one home etc...
I shall keep searching for an answer, Ta.
Rob

HELP! Oreo Update. Play Store shows all PAID apps are unpaid (have to purchase again)

Note that I only have one Google account on the device
I bought a brand new sealed Samsung Galaxy Tab S3. I setup the device for the first time and went straight to updating to Marshmallow which then allowed me to finally update to Oreo. So then I tried to install an app that I already paid for. But it said I didn't pay for it (says $3.99 instead of INSTALL). So I thought that maybe it's from a fishy developer who makes their apps temporary free (P.AG.F.) and pulled the rug from under me. But then I noticed all of my paid apps are UNPAID. So then I decided to go for a legit developer who I was confident is a good developer (Nova Launcher Prime), and even on the Play Store page it said I have to pay money for it even though I already purchased it on my Google account. Even when I click on "Purchased Apps" the apps show as purchased, but as soon as I go to the app's page, it show as unpaid.
So I decided to maybe factory reset the device. Nope. The problem persisted. I checked for an OS update past Android 8.0.0. There was no update. So then I decided to lookup an APK mirror for Google Play Services (using Play Services Info), and I downloaded the correct app for my device (architecture and dpi). I installed the latest Play Services. But in Play Services info it shows that my newly installed App is still the old version from 2016. On Play Services Info it says I need to install the 2018 version (obviously I tried to). It didn't do anything. Still did not work
I am wondering if I got a botched update of Oreo. What do I do? I am out ideas at this point. Man what the heck???
EDIT: Play Services version 12.6.88 (also the updated OS install this version)
poetryrocksalot said:
I bought a brand new sealed Samsung Galaxy Tab S3. I setup the device for the first time and went straight to updating to Marshmallow which then allowed me to finally update to Oreo. So then I tried to install an app that I already paid for. But it said I didn't pay for it (says $3.99 instead of INSTALL). So I thought that maybe it's from a fishy developer who makes their apps temporary free (P.AG.F.) and pulled the rug from under me. But then I noticed all of my paid apps are UNPAID. So then I decided to go for a legit developer who I was confident is a good developer (Nova Launcher Prime), and even on the Play Store page it said I have to pay money for it even though I already purchased it on my Google account. Even when I click on "Purchased Apps" the apps show as purchased, but as soon as I go to the app's page, it show as unpaid.
So I decided to maybe factory reset the device. Nope. The problem persisted. I checked for an OS update past Android 8.0.0. There was no update. So then I decided to lookup an APK mirror for Google Play Services (using Play Services Info), and I downloaded the correct app for my device (architecture and dpi). I installed the Play Services. But in Play Services info it shows that my newly installed App is still the old version from 2016. On Play Services Info it says I need to install the 2018 version (obviously I tried to). It didn't do anything.
I am wondering if I got a botched update of Oreo. What do I do? I am out ideas at this point. Man what the heck???
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I'm sure it's not the device. Check to make sure you have the latest version of play store. You can do that using the three bar menu in play store and going to settings.
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I'm sure it's not the device. Check to make sure you have the latest version of play store. You can do that using the three bar menu in play store and going to settings.
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Play store is up to date. Play services is also up to date. I can't even downgrade play services to a version below 12.6.88.
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poetryrocksalot said:
Play store is up to date. Play services is also up to date. I can't even downgrade play services to a version below 12.6.88.
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That's interesting. Mine is 10.2.06 and says it's up to date. It's also working fine. Did your device update to Oreo on it's own or did you flash it with Odin? You're in the US, right?
Edit, my play services is 12.2.85. Play store is 10.2.06
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Also, make sure you are not in your "Secure Folder" when running play store. It will not access your account properly and will force you to pay for everything again.
Can you access Play store from a computer? Do you still see the apps you paid for?
Otherwise, I'd contact Google Support and see what is wrong with your account.
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That's interesting. Mine is 10.2.06 and says it's up to date. It's also working fine. Did your device update to Oreo on it's own or did you flash it with Odin? You're in the US, right?
Edit, my play services is 12.2.85. Play store is 10.2.06
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Oh man what the heck. What do I do? My device won't let me downgrade. Oh man. I am screwed. Edit: Yes everything is fine on all of my devices. Including Android emulators. I turned on the "use secure folder" during factory setup. But when I click on Secure Folder it tells me I need to sign in to my Samsung account in order to use it. So I am not even sure if Secure Folder is the issue. Cause it wont even let me into the app unless I sign up. Play Services is 12.6.8 no downgrade allowed. Play Store is 10.2.06 ???
poetryrocksalot said:
Oh man what the heck. What do I do? My device won't let me downgrade. Oh man. I am screwed.
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You're not screwed. How did you get Oreo on your device? There isn't a US version so I'm assuming you used Odin. If so did you use the UK version. You're right, you won't be able to down grade to nugat but I'm on Oreo, in the US, and it's working fine.
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You're not screwed. How did you get Oreo on your device? There isn't a US version so I'm assuming you used Odin. If so did you use the UK version. You're right, you won't be able to down grade to nugat but I'm on Oreo, in the US, and it's working fine.
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Nope. I read news today that Samsung Tab S3 in the US are rolling out Oreo updates. I got excited and I was like oh what a coincidence because that day was the same day I decided to open up my brand new Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 from the sealed retail packaging. So like I really didn't do much. No tweaks. No strange configuration or app installations. I literally went through Android settings and installed the updates through the official "search for update" method. Note that the update service found the Marshmallow update and forced me to install it before I would be able to find the Oreo update.
No Odin. No flashing. No rooting. No Adb. Nothing nada. EDIT: It's possible I bought a NON-US version of Tab S3, but I don't see how that is relevant because that version of Tab S3 should have Play Store bugs ironed out by now.
poetryrocksalot said:
Nope. I read news today that Samsung Tab S3 in the US are rolling out Oreo updates. I got excited and I was like oh what a coincidence because that day was the same day I decided to open up my brand new Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 from the sealed retail packaging. So like I really didn't do much. No tweaks. No strange configuration or app installations. I literally went through Android settings and installed the updates through the official "search for update" method. Note that the update service found the Marshmallow update and forced me to install it before I would be able to find the Oreo update.
No Odin. No flashing. No rooting. No Adb. Nothing nada. EDIT: It's possible I bought a NON-US version of Tab S3, but I don't see how that is relevant because that version of Tab S3 should have Play Store bugs ironed out by now.
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The US version of Oreo isn't available for Odin flash yet, otherwise I'd give it a try and see if it's an issue with the firmware. But I don't think even Samsung would have messed up play store. If it was just released it may be available later today.
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jd1639 said:
The US version of Oreo isn't available for Odin flash yet, otherwise I'd give it a try and see if it's an issue with the firmware. But I don't think even Samsung would have messed up play store. If it was just released it may be available later today.
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I feel like if I flashed an Oreo ROM then the problem would disappear. Is there no one else from the US beside me who has updated through the official outlet?
On my Oreo Play Services is v12.6.85 and Play store is v10.2.06-all and I see my paid for apps without issues.
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On my Oreo Play Services is v12.6.85 and Play store is v10.2.06-all and I see my paid for apps without issues.
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Man. Wtf why does this always happen to me with Google? Like in YouTube, my old playlists show up on my PC Chrome Browser. But they don't even exist in the YouTube app (only the new playlists appear). And on YouTube, there is exactly ONE youtuber that I can't toggle notification for, and that is Marquez Brownlee. But if I made another YouTube account I can toggle on the notification (the ringing bell symbol) for this YouTuber just fine.
NOBODY has these issue except me. Why?
I HAVE INCLUDED SCREENSHOTS AND PICTURES. SOMEBODY HELP ME
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You're not screwed. How did you get Oreo on your device? There isn't a US version so I'm assuming you used Odin. If so did you use the UK version. You're right, you won't be able to down grade to nugat but I'm on Oreo, in the US, and it's working fine.
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Oh I meant that I can't downgrade Play Services, as in I can't install an older version of Play Services.
Another Picture shows the Play Store works fine on other devices. Also here is video of Marquez Brownlee notification problem if you don't believe me. Problem has existed for years already and still hasn't been fixed.
Edit: Second video is portrait because I'm taking it with the Tab S3 with a heavy armored Gumdrop case and can't hold it in landscape (small hand and body) while using the mouse. Don't have tripod either and I was trying to obscure private information.
It isn't that we don't believe you. We do. But there is something wrong with your Google account. If it was me I would factory reset the device and go through the re-install of the Google Account. Somehow Android is not getting updated with your Google Account info so either it is a connectivity issue with Google or something with the install process.
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Also, make sure you are not in your "Secure Folder" when running play store. It will not access your account properly and will force you to pay for everything again.
Can you access Play store from a computer? Do you still see the apps you paid for?
Otherwise, I'd contact Google Support and see what is wrong with your account.
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SOLVED.
You have to turn off that option during initial "factory" setup. I couldn't turn it off because I didn't have or don't remember my Samsung Account. You need the Samsung Account in order to go past the login screen for "Secure Folder". As far as I know, there is no way to turn off secure folder after it is turned on without a Samsung Account. Deactivating/disabling the Secure Folder app also did not work. I fixed it by factory resetting the device and making sure that the initial toggle for Secure Folder is set to "OFF" (I think the reset is a necessary prerequisite). It looks like the issue is poor software design. Being required to have an account to turn if off, while being able to turn it on without the account is just a terrible choice in design. User aspexil, you have been thanked.
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poetryrocksalot said:
SOLVED.
You have to turn off that option during initial "factory" setup. I couldn't turn it off because I didn't have or don't remember my Samsung Account. You need the Samsung Account in order to go past the login screen for "Secure Folder". As far as I know, there is no way to turn off secure folder after it is turned on without a Samsung Account. Deactivating the Secure Folder app also did not work. It looks like the issue is poor software design.
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Glad you got it solved. That might be something new with Oreo. I didn't have that problem when I first got my tab. Ever since it's been rooted and I've never had a Samsung account. Or maybe I turned it off when initially setting up the tab.
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jd1639 said:
Glad you got it solved. That might be something new with Oreo. I didn't have that problem when I first got my tab. Ever since it's been rooted and I've never had a Samsung account. Or maybe I turned it off when initially setting up the tab.
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UNSOLVED.
Actually it's unsolved again. I typed down Nova Launcher in the search box to check if I have it "paid". And it showed up as paid. But now I realized that I was looking for Nova Launcher Prime. Damn it. I guess I need to flash my Tab S3 to a reliable ROM then?
poetryrocksalot said:
UNSOLVED.
Actually it's unsolved again. I typed down Nova Launcher in the search box to check if I have it "paid". And it showed up as paid. But now I realized that I was looking for Nova Launcher Prime. Damn it. I guess I need to flash my Tab S3 to a reliable ROM then?
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When you factory reset did it reset to Android v7.1? Maybe just stop there and see if you can get the tablet to work before applying Android v8.0? I haven't used anything but stock so don't know what ROM to use.
aspexil said:
When you factory reset did it reset to Android v7.1? Maybe just stop there and see if you can get the tablet to work before applying Android v8.0? I haven't used anything but stock so don't know what ROM to use.
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Nope. When I factory reset. It reset to Android Oreo 8.0.0. Play Services installed was 12.6.85 (instead of 12.6.88, I think I actually installed 12.6.88 manually via sideloading). The play store version is the same 10.2.06.
So I am wondering which ROM provided online is legitimately unchanged and STOCK so I can just flash via Odin. Then install the Oreo update via WiFi (I am assuming I received a corrupted update that won't happen again).
Also, one guy told me from another thread that he had the same issue and said he just waited a few days and let Play Services "sync" and it just fixed itself automatically. Although, I don't know if he really does have the same problem.
poetryrocksalot said:
Nope. When I factory reset. It reset to Android Oreo 8.0.0. Play Services installed was 12.6.85 (instead of 12.6.88, I think I actually installed 12.6.88 manually via sideloading). The play store version is the same 10.2.06.
So I am wondering which ROM provided online is legitimately unchanged and STOCK so I can just flash via Odin. Then install the Oreo update via WiFi (I am assuming I received a corrupted update that won't happen again).
Also, one guy told me from another thread that he had the same issue and said he just waited a few days and let Play Services "sync" and it just fixed itself automatically. Although, I don't know if he really does have the same problem.
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I'm pretty sure you will not be able to install nougut firmware after installing Oreo. The bootloader for Oreo is new and Samsung usually trips an e-fuse when updating the bootloader. But you can give it a try and then letting the device update. I get firmware from updato. But be advised that Oreo for the us isn't available yet (nougut is there). The UK version works fine, though. That's what I'm on.
PS, you'll have to enable developer options and then oem unlock to use Odin.
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Google Play Services Downgrade (HELP)

Currently, I am on android 8.0 on my Galaxy S8+ and I'm trying to downgrade to Google Play Services 12.6.85, but for some reason I'm having troubles. So, I know the steps to actually disable the google play service, uninstall updates, download the older update and just install. The problem is, every time when I go to download the version I want (12.6.85) it just says "App Not Installed"
At this point, I've literally tried everything and still no luck unfortunately. When I remove all updates from the current Google Play Services, it drops down to version 13.x.xx and I'm not sure why this is happening. All I can really think of is that they patched the downgrading method and this no longer works, or something is wrong. Yes, I've double checked I'm installing the correct version of the Google Play Service update to my phone, and nothing seems to work.
Also, I've done this downgrade method many times in the past, so this isn't my first time doing this downgrade method. Now that the downgrading method doesn't work, I'm hoping someone can maybe post a work around of some sort so I can actually downgrade my Google Play Services to an older update.
If you have any information on this or if you have a work around, please don't hesitate to reply, I'd love to hear your feedback!
Thanks
Is your device root?
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PoochyX said:
Is your device root?
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No, but I've done this downgrade before without root. I wonder why it's no longer working, maybe they patched this?
Pool's Closed said:
No, but I've done this downgrade before without root. I wonder why it's no longer working, maybe they patched this?
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Maybe....
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Need help with downgrading
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I'm having the same issue. What did you end up doing?
Maybe it has to do will another Google system apk needing to be brought back to the original factory load version too. Another loaded system app is incompatible with the older GPS... just a guess.
Sounds like a firmware update changed your playing field. If so it may be a real mess to try to correct.
Rule#1- never update a fast, stable OS if it's fulfilling its mission.
blackhawk said:
Maybe it has to do will another Google system apk needing to be brought back to the original factory load version too. Another loaded system app is incompatible with the older GPS... just a guess.
Sounds like a firmware update changed your playing field. If so it may be a real mess to try to correct.
Rule#1- never update a fast, stable OS if it's fulfilling its mission.
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Wow. That was a quick response.
Any help would be really appreciated.
I'm not a developer or anything like that, and I don't know anything about phones.
I have a Samsung 8+.
I uninstalled Google Play services to factory settings which is "17.4.55".
I've downloaded the "12.6.85" version for my device, but when I try to install it tells me "App not installed".
P.s. (idk what this whole rooted/unrooted business is, but whatever the device default is, is what I got.) I don't have a pc to do all this stuff to root/unroot my device.
Any thoughts?
MonkeyC33 said:
Wow. That was a quick response.
Any help would be really appreciated.
I'm not a developer or anything like that, and I don't know anything about phones.
I have a Samsung 8+.
I uninstalled Google Play services to factory settings which is "17.4.55".
I've downloaded the "12.6.85" version for my device, but when I try to install it tells me "App not installed".
P.s. (idk what this whole rooted/unrooted business is, but whatever the device default is, is what I got.) I don't have a pc to do all this stuff to root/unroot my device.
Any thoughts?
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I know very little about rooting... because it's a time sucking blackhole I have avoided doing it.
Normally going to Playstore is how you update this bothersome app. It doesn't do a whole lot but you need it for Gmail, Playstore and some 3rd apps. I run with it disabled most of the time.
Is your current version not working?
blackhawk said:
I know very little about rooting... because it's a time sucking blackhole I have avoided doing it.
Normally going to Playstore is how you update this bothersome app. It doesn't do a whole lot but you need it for Gmail, Playstore and some 3rd apps. I run with it disabled most of the time.
Is your current version not working?
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It works, but I need the lower 12.6.85 version in order for another app to work properly.
But someone just sent me a message saying:
"You can't install an older version of the Google Play Services on top of a newer, default version."
If this is the case, is there no hope to downgrade the Google Play service on my device?
MonkeyC33 said:
It works, but I need the lower 12.6.85 version in order for another app to work properly.
But someone just sent me a message saying:
"You can't install an older version of the Google Play Services on top of a newer, default version."
If this is the case, is there no hope to downgrade the Google Play service on my device?
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Ditch the offending outdated app. It's Android... plenty of fish in the sea.
blackhawk said:
Ditch the offending outdated app. It's Android... plenty of fish in the sea.
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I guess.
Do you know about spoofing on PoGo by any chance?
MonkeyC33 said:
I guess.
Do you know about spoofing on PoGo by any chance?
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No clue, sorry. Online gaming? Sounds like trouble... be careful what you load.
It may be trying to skirt around security protocols. A rootkit on your rooted phone wouldn't be fun.
OS's below Pie are vulnerable to the worst rootkits there are. They can infect the system partition.
blackhawk said:
No clue, sorry. Online gaming? Sounds like trouble... be careful what you load.
It may be trying to skirt around security protocols. A rootkit on your rooted phone wouldn't be fun.
OS's below Pie are vulnerable to the worst rootkits there are. They can infect the system partition.
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The last bit went completely over my head.
But, yeah. I've been searching for days now on a safe way to use this one joystick app to help me on a game, PokemonGo. Long story short, the game requires traveling around to play, but I'm in an area where I can't travel. This joystick app would help me travel in the game without traveling from home.
Anyway, I've read that many people do it easily with a rooted phone, but seems like a more difficult feat than I can accomplish.
MonkeyC33 said:
The last bit went completely over my head.
But, yeah. I've been searching for days now on a safe way to use this one joystick app to help me on a game, PokemonGo. Long story short, the game requires traveling around to play, but I'm in an area where I can't travel. This joystick app would help me travel in the game without traveling from home.
Anyway, I've read that many people do it easily with a rooted phone, but seems like a more difficult feat than I can accomplish.
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Any games I play have internet access Firewall blocked.
My conservative opinion...
Better get while the settings good.
What's next Angry Birds?
You're too easy a target, in fact you are painting a bullseye on your back to be hacked.

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