Hello!
I don't know, maybe someone remembers me from P880 forum
Whatever - in that time the 4X HD had locked bootloader which no one was able to unlock it, so I decided to make a petition about it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852721). We succeed and we could unlock the bootloader via fastboot oem unlock in Jelly Bean update.
Now LG did it again, their G2 and G3 flagships as well as some other devices are locked as hell again. I decided today to reopen my petition and share this message to You guys so maybe we could get the unlockable bootloader again, or at least a way to unlock it like it is for example HTC phones.
Here's the link to the petition:
http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
Let's have at least some hope for it, so we could get easier development and also G3 development could rise.
My reopened petition has 4031 supporters (for now) so it should be a little visible
Individual emails have also the meaning. If You have a minute, please send emails to these addresses, also don't forget to mention about our petition:
[email protected]
[email protected]
EDIT: I'm posting in G3's petition thread to prevent (my) spam, also G3 community is the most active, so that's why I decided to keep posting and updating there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/petition-possibility-to-unlock-t2832032
Thanks reas0n for your petition I also signed it. I also remember about the 4xhd locked bootloader, I wanted to buy that after I sold my 2x which bootloader got unlocked by wkpark, but I didn't really bought it because of the locked boot loader.
Maybe with unlocked boot loader display problems mightnbe less and less vertical stripes while flashing ROMs. Unlocked boot loader would also offer more possibilities and better then bypassing the jellybean boot loader.
I hope this petition reaches fast the 10.000.
This should be on xda news so the petition will be fast 10.000 times signed by xda members.
Where do i sign ?
BackDaws said:
Where do i sign ?
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it's here http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
done:good::good:
Thanks, signed but had to switch to desktop site to do so ☺
Signed
I will share to my fan page 3661 member
Signed, thank you for opening the petition.
I didn't read it just signed so I hope I can trust you and didn't sign some crazy thing lol jk
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Signed!
Locked bootloaders are an absolute deal breaker for me with any device.
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i doubt lg will do anything about it, i signed it though its worth a try
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i doubt lg will do anything about it, i signed it though its worth a try
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Agreed on both counts.
But if LG is serious about putting a dent in samsungs sales they had better reconsider this locked bootloader for all crap.
If a carrier asks for it thats one thing but a generic lockdown is total BS.
Ive been waiting to get a G3 since they were announced and the locked BL is a HUGE letdown.
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force70 said:
Agreed on both counts.
But if LG is serious about putting a dent in samsungs sales they had better reconsider this locked bootloadet for all crap.
If a carrier asks for it thats one thing but a generic lockdown is total BS.
Ive been waiting to get a G3 since they were announced and the locked BL is a HUGE letdown.
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i owned a galaxy nexus earlier and it was a breeze, sadly the battery life was crap. ths ame goes with nexus 5. so i thought lg g2 was a better choice, and it was no regrets, sure the updates are a little late but i get such awesome camera features and some other proprietary stuff which i do enjoy to a certain extent
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i owned a galaxy nexus earlier and it was a breeze, sadly the battery life was crap. ths ame goes with nexus 5. so i thought lg g2 was a better choice, and it was no regrets, sure the updates are a little late but i get such awesome camera features and some other proprietary stuff which i do enjoy to a certain extent
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i had the Gnex ,too. glad that this petition is here. I just do my part!
Only for G2, but IT'S SOMETHING:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/devs-bootloadee-unlock-hint-t2840205
It may be useful, but we will see what devs will say.
Didn't want to leave my community without informations, so here's what I got from LG Open Source:
We know there are lots of requests to unlock bootloader.
We will inform you when we have good news.
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and LG Developer:
Thank you for your feedback regarding bootloader unlock and
we are sorry for any inconvenience and disappointment that have been caused by lack of support for bootloader unlock on the latest LG smartphones.
We are already aware of many developers’ requests and opinions on bootloader unlock.
So we have been preparing a server to provide safer bootloader unlock.
Also, we are internally discussing the target model and the time of providing bootloader unlock.
However, it will take some more time due to the technical restrictions, security issues, and the policy of mobile carriers.
We deeply apologize that we are unable to support bootloader unlock right now and would like to ask for your kind understanding.
We will let you know more specific information when the support policy for bootloader unlock is decided.
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Dan Rosenberg Unlocks Moto X Bootloader, Says Almost All Snapdragon Devices are Vulnerable
Be patient.
I made the thread about this, it won't work on G2.
What are the advantages of unlocked boot loader? As we have custom roms recovery root aosp roms etc..then for what?
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I'm trying to decided between the Galaxy Nexus and the Droid 4.
I'm assuming Droid4 and RAZR will have the same exact hardware and therefore be pretty much interchangeable ROM wise. Is this correct?
If that is the case I'm heavily leaning toward the Droid 4 but it depends on 2 things.
1. With the "removable back", the battery being accessible without removing glued on case components(just screws)
2. The developer support for the RAZR/Droid4 being sizable despite the locked bootloader.
Thoughts?
The developer support is still growing and I think we will be satisfied in the end. But is not a nexus though.
There are some things happening already, for example someone have been able too boot ICS.
Also the bootloader will be unlocked when Moto releases ICS.
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Also the bootloader will be unlocked when Moto releases ICS.
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This is confirmed officially even on Verizon? If so the Droid 4 wins me over hands down.
Natolx said:
This is confirmed officially even on Verizon? If so the Droid 4 wins me over hands down.
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No, I'm sorry didn't think of Veri.
Moto said that they would unlock the bootloader if the operator is okay with it. So it's up to Verizon, and what I have heard they probably won't allow it.
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No, I'm sorry didn't think of Veri.
Moto said that they would unlock the bootloader if the operator is okay with it. So it's up to Verizon, and what I have heard they probably won't allow it.
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After doing some brief research on this, I read that the unlock tool that is released with the ICS update abroad will "probably" allow developers to unlock the Verizon RAZR. Is this actually likely?
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After doing some brief research on this, I read that the unlock tool that is released with the ICS update abroad will "probably" allow developers to unlock the Verizon RAZR. Is this actually likely?
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Likely? Probably not, but it might be possible for a dev to reverse engineer or figure it out...
Lots of IFs, but with Safestrap out now and devs working on roms, after we get FXZ or SBF, we will have a great device with lots of options for ROMs.
1. IIRC, the Droid 4 will also lack a removable battery.
2. ICS might not be released until May or June. By then the Razr will be an "old" phone, so it might not really take off with developers if it does not build momentum in the next 2-3 months while it is still "new."
-but from the looks of it the development of the Razr seems to be really starting to take off.
3. In terms of user base, the one thing that really helped the Razr was the 1 cent Amazon Wireless deal. It was the top phone available on Verizon at the time, so I'm sure that built a good base of users- but maybe not the type of users who develop ROMs.
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1. IIRC, the Droid 4 will also lack a removable battery.
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The Droid 4, there is some question as to whether the phone will have a removable battery or not.
The test units were not sent with the case removal tool that was seen on the spec sheet that was released today.
I haven't seen a new confirmation on the removable battery yet, and Motorola never confirmed anything on this front.
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2. ICS might not be released until May or June. By then the Razr will be an "old" phone, so it might not really take off with developers if it does not build momentum in the next 2-3 months while it is still "new."
-but from the looks of it the development of the Razr seems to be really starting to take off.
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That is of course IF - and this is a big IF, the Razr's bootloader gets unlocked before that. And judging by what I have seen, it doesn't take that long if the phone is a flagship phone... Correct me if I am wrong
armanatz said:
That is of course IF - and this is a big IF, the Razr's bootloader gets unlocked before that. And judging by what I have seen, it doesn't take that long if the phone is a flagship phone... Correct me if I am wrong
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The boatloader won't get unlocked. You'll see a workaround, like a 2nd-init, or something along those lines, but Verizon won't allow unlocked boatloaders, and Motorola is going to comply with Verizon's desire to keep the boatloader in lockdown.
That won't stop development, and ASOP ROM's which is what Droid Th3ory is working on, an ASOP ICS port.
mhhh but the Atrix have unlocked bootloader, why only that moto have that luck?
Atrix is on at&t. The carrier designates whether the boatloader stays locked or not. It isn't moto's decision.
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Atrix is on at&t. The carrier designates whether the boatloader stays locked or not. It isn't moto's decision.
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Except for the Galaxy Nexus...
So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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Very good question. Why don't you ask them? It would be interesting to hear their reply.
Well it looks like dev on this phone is dead!
I mean they have already released ICS 4.0.2 for the vzw GN and we ain't got **** yet!!
Looks like I'm going to have give this phone the wifey and go get me a GN.
Don't get me wrong I love the phone but no dev spt is a bummer!
...What are you talking about. The Nexus shipped with ICS in the first place, of course it got it before we did. And it got 4.0.2 update 2 hours later straight from Google. That has nothing to do with Dev support.
And naturally, since it's a Nexus device, it's gonna get ages more dev support than any other phone. But we are getting places ourselves. DroidTh3ory released RAZRX two days ago. He's working on ICS right now. We got Safestrap 2 days ago. Once we get the FXZ files we're probably going to get like 200x the support we're getting right now. Not to mention the Nexus' hardware which is composed of fantastic innards, but a plastic, easy-to-chip case, normal glass screen with minimal scratch resistance, & a weak radio.
It boggles me how you can say dev support is dead with all of the stuff that's LITERALLY happened in the past two days.
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So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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I posted this somewhere else, there's really 2 reasons for this:
1) Google required that the Nexus come "open".
2) In the agreement to carry the phone, essentially Samsung & Google have taken over support for the phone, to the point where the contract, while through Verizon, is actually supported by Google, and therefore they can dictate the bootloader.
That's what I could gather from reading up on how the Nexus came to be a Verizon phone. There were some pretty heavy negotiations here, and Verizon didn't want Sprint to get the phone, and couldn't stand to have another Iphone/Att&t exclusive situation happen again.
Now, for Moto, they are already heavily tied to Verizon, and so they have no leverage for getting their devices to be released as open.
They even were first (I believe) to start saying they wanted open phones, back when the xoom was released. They made a statement that by late 2011 they were going to release all their phones with unlocked bootloaders like the xoom was......that didn't happen because Verizon threatened to pull the phones if they did that.
Verizon even forced HTC to remove it's bootloader unlock tool on the web, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's really not Moto's fault, it's Verizon's, and the Nexus is going to be the way it is because Google has control, not Verizon.
yeah except the nexus ships locked and is unlockable through adb.
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So what you're saying is we'll get a ICS Rom from developers long before any Verizon update to ICS.....right? Because waiting till June is absurd! This phone is just too friggin good to not get some attention......is my opin,anyway....
I am aware that this thing will not come unlocked but I'm wondering the likelihood of it becoming unlocked. I made a promise to myself to never buy a device with a locked bootloader and with devices like the s4 getting harder to unlock I am concerned. I have followed Samsung device bootloaders for a while but know nothing about LGs
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I am aware that this thing will not come unlocked but I'm wondering the likelihood of it becoming unlocked. I made a promise to myself to never buy a device with a locked bootloader and with devices like the s4 getting harder to unlock I am concerned. I have followed Samsung device bootloaders for a while but know nothing about LGs
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Honestly these days alot of these bigger phone companys who have made a name for themselves with top tier devices, like htc, samsung, and motorola all started out making it easy to unlock their devices. I can see LG giving support to developers. I mean samsung did it for the longest while when moto and htc were killing it. Now that samsung isnt as dev friendly I think it would be smart for LG to go ahead and grab the dev community
So, nobody has confirmed yet if the bootloader is unlocked? Waiting game it is ...
I have a HTC one m8 now
The xda Forum of the m8 is very active and it´s possible to unlock every HTC with HTCs help.
I´m very interesstet in the new Lg g5 as my new device but i want to install custom roms and maybe other stuff, when i look in the forum of the v10 it looks not very good.
When i look in the Lg g4 forum the developer Support looks not bad.
So maybe someone can say something about the developer support of LG nowdays ?
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So maybe someone can say something about the developer support of LG nowdays ?
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I have the same question. After 4 years, the glass of my Galaxy Sii finally broke :crying: So I was looking at the S7 Edge to replace it, but here in Europe we get the Exynos version which is a no-go for custom ROMs. And because custom ROMs doubled the life of my Sii, I really want another phone that has good developer support.
There is of course the Nexus 6p, which seems to have a billion ROMs already. But I find it a bit large. The LG G5 looks great, with more memory and a faster chipset. Good developer support would be another bonus.
G3 onwards, nonexistent. G4 was lucky enough to have an unlocked boot loader for two versions of the phone (815/811), so it has a small development scene. The V10 however didn't receive the same treatment and is essentially dead in the water in regards to development. With LG's extremely vague stance of factory unlocking boot loaders and their extremely locked down phones the G5 might end up the same, only time will tell.
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G3 onwards, nonexistent. G4 was lucky enough to have an unlocked boot loader for two versions of the phone (815/811), so it has a small development scene. The V10 however didn't receive the same treatment and is essentially dead in the water in regards to development. With LG's extremely vague stance of factory unlocking boot loaders and their extremely locked down phones the G5 might end up the same, only time will tell.
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Sadly true.....
I have the G3 for almost 2 years now, luckily devs found a way to "bump" it allowing for root, custom recovery ...etc! thus a fair amount of action in development
Really interested in G4 H818P (dual sim) but since it's not among the models officially unlockable and none managed to hack it (despite somewhat hefty bounty) that renders it significantly unattractive.... some of just can't do stock
It's a shame LG has such none dev-friendly policy
It's been getting worse, just like Samsung. If you have a carrier-branded phone like Verizon, you can forget any real development.
It get worst by the release. As you have said, you took a look at the v10...that is a prime example of lg.
Looks like a no-go for me then....I was so sold on the G5...
Samsung S7 appears to be in bootloader lockdownville, ruling it out for me.
I'm now looking at the G5. If this also joins the town of locked bootloaders, I'll stick with my G4.
Then I'll perhaps jump off the original Jump ship, since I won't be upgrading that much, and go with squaretrade or similar, saving much need $ in the process.
In this case I will probably go for htc 10. I'm not in any hurry so we'll see.
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In this case I will probably go for htc 10. I'm not in any hurry so we'll see.
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Is HTC development still friendly these days? I remember you could officially unlock the bootloader on M7. How is it now? I like HTC phones too. Still use my M7.
A quick search indicates that unlocked A9 was bootloader unlockable and dev friendly. Looking like HTC 10 may be my next phone then.... I was so fascinated by G5. Darn! Some things are not meant to be.
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Is HTC development still friendly these days? I remember you could officially unlock the bootloader on M7. How is it now? I like HTC phones too. Still use my M7.
A quick search indicates that unlocked A9 was bootloader unlockable and dev friendly. Looking like HTC 10 may be my next phone then.... I was so fascinated by G5. Darn! Some things are not meant to be.
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Like I said I'm in no hurry by the time I end up getting the new phone the g5 will probably be doing just fine development wise. I love my lg nexus 5 so much I just might end up waiting for the next nexus supposedly by htc.
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In this case I will probably go for htc 10. I'm not in any hurry so we'll see.
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I think it will be not so easy. HTC will unlock the device bit remain S-on. So it must wait and pay for s-off (SunShine). Sony has also officianal unlock, but you lost the drm key forever (few sony app does not work) so you have to wait the unofficianal drm fix. Xiaomi has also locked bootloader, and the unlock not so simple. samsung locked the snapdragon and exynos has few difficulties. Who remain?Lg?Nexus?chinese phones?
Maybe the android developing will die?
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I think it will be not so easy. HTC will unlock the device bit remain S-on. So it must wait and pay for s-off (SunShine). Sony has also officianal unlock, but you lost the drm key forever (few sony app does not work) so you have to wait the unofficianal drm fix. Xiaomi has also locked bootloader, and the unlock not so simple. samsung locked the snapdragon and exynos has few difficulties. Who remain?Lg?Nexus?chinese phones?
Maybe the android developing will die?
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Man you've made your homework...
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G3 onwards, nonexistent. G4 was lucky enough to have an unlocked boot loader for two versions of the phone (815/811), so it has a small development scene. The V10 however didn't receive the same treatment and is essentially dead in the water in regards to development. With LG's extremely vague stance of factory unlocking boot loaders and their extremely locked down phones the G5 might end up the same, only time will tell.
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That will either make or break my purchase
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I think it will be not so easy. HTC will unlock the device bit remain S-on. So it must wait and pay for s-off (SunShine). Sony has also officianal unlock, but you lost the drm key forever (few sony app does not work) so you have to wait the unofficianal drm fix. Xiaomi has also locked bootloader, and the unlock not so simple. samsung locked the snapdragon and exynos has few difficulties. Who remain?Lg?Nexus?chinese phones?
Maybe the android developing will die?
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This really is not so far from the truth. When I bought a S4 (first android), it was a cinch manipulate it and it was an AT&T variant (the google play edition rom made it easy too). Then...G2, M8, N5, OPO, N6, G3, etc. ...I was hooked...this was easy, just watch the carrier variants and unlocking/rooting/rom'ing was easy street. What was an iPhone...why did I ever own one, etc. etc.
Well, 2014 started to suck and then 2015 REALLY sucked...the post quad core era zomg! Besides a N6p / MXPE...there is some really sucky quality about every other hackable android unit out there in many respects practically from 2015 (g4 - limited dev'ing if at all US domestic, m9 - hot (doomed) 810 but better control now, OPT - need drivers!, s6 - exynos so TW roms or bust).
Then we start 2016...S7 locked for Samsung Pay (for now?)...not a good start. I am an optimist and hope the G5 and the M10 are able to be unlocked and we can unleash the power of the SD 820. The era of stable octacore is here, hopefully our beloved devs can take full advantage of it!
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That will either make or break my purchase
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Yes. We will have to wait and see what time says will happen.
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Samsung S7 appears to be in bootloader lockdownville, ruling it out for me.
I'm now looking at the G5. If this also joins the town of locked bootloaders, I'll stick with my G4.
Then I'll perhaps jump off the original Jump ship, since I won't be upgrading that much, and go with squaretrade or similar, saving much need $ in the process.
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Of course you could wait for LG G6
Hi all. For those that's don't know me, my name is Rashed and I'm the current CM LG G2, HTC One M9, Oppo R7+, and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) LTE maintainer. I would like to be able to develop for the G5 as well and bring CM to this wonderful device, however, being a student, I am limited on cash right now, so I am reaching out to the community to ask for help in acquiring a G5. I have started a GoFundMe (link below) that will go solely to the purchase of a bootloader unlocked G5 that I can bring CM up on. To anyone who does donate, I thank you for your generosity and confidence in my ability to deliver.
Thank you
G5 AOSP GoFundMe:
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Hi all. For those that's don't know me, my name is Rashed and I'm the current CM LG G2, HTC One M9, Oppo R7+, and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) LTE maintainer. I would like to be able to develop for the G5 as well and bring CM to this wonderful device, however, being a student, I am limited on cash right now, so I am reaching out to the community to ask for help in acquiring a G5. I have started a GoFundMe (link below) that will go solely to the purchase of a bootloader unlocked G5 that I can bring CM up on. To anyone who does donate, I thank you for your generosity and confidence in my ability to deliver.
Thank you
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gofundme.com/9dvrs7bx
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This takes me to a page to which the connection cannot be established.
Will this be for carrier versions as well? Which device do you plan on buying with the funded moneys
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Will this be for carrier versions as well? Which device do you plan on buying with the funded moneys
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dude long time no see, are you coming over to LG lol
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dude long time no see, are you coming over to LG lol
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What up man! I've been all over lol. Went from HTC (still my fav) to Nexus 5 & 6. Then G4, now G5. Wife wants one and they offering buy one get one free. So why not ya know ?
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IDK man, it's working fine here.
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Will this be for carrier versions as well? Which device do you plan on buying with the funded moneys
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I'd buy either the T-Mobile variant since it will most likely be unlocked like the G3 and G4 or the EU unloackable version, depending on availability.
I will happily throw some cash your way if we can confirm that the G5 comes bootloader unlocked or is relatively easy to unlock via official channels.
I though you don't supposed to ask for money on xda?
After only having root for G4 for so long.. I'd stuff money down your pants too if there's a multi variant boot unlock or even bump for that matter.
The main goal is to have some sort of way around it as you can only root marshmallow with a modified kernel. The road looks tough but I'm thinking this device will be more popular than the G4 was...
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I will happily throw some cash your way if we can confirm that the G5 comes bootloader unlocked or is relatively easy to unlock via official channels.
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I'm 99% sure the T-Mobile variant will be unlockable and so will the EU non-carrier variant as well.
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After only having root for G4 for so long.. I'd stuff money down your pants too if there's a multi variant boot unlock or even bump for that matter.
The main goal is to have some sort of way around it as you can only root marshmallow with a modified kernel. The road looks tough but I'm thinking this device will be more popular than the G4 was...
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Rooting on 6.0 is pretty difficult due to the dm-verity Google added. But I'm confidant there will be an exploit.
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-external-link/lg-g5-on-t-mobile-will-have-a-locked-bootloader/
Write an open letter to the Santa Claus. Had worked very well for me in the past. ?
All of us Snapdragon Note 8 users know it's a long shot, but it's worth the try... Let your voice be heard and Samsung to surrender! Please take a minute to vote, all is appreciated!
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-un...m_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition
0% chance of this working. But I'll sign anyway.
You'll probably have better luck with a bootloader unlock bounty.
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0% chance of this working. But I'll sign anyway.
You'll probably have better luck with a bootloader unlock bounty.
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Thanks for the support, and what's the main difference between a bounty and petition? (On XDA at least?) How will it do us better?
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Okay, a bounty involves donations, which does seem more attractive to Samsung, but I'm not sure how to set up donation links, secure payment, etc.... If someone does and makes a thread, that'll be cool too.
vin_001 said:
Thanks for the support, and what's the main difference between a bounty and petition? (On XDA at least?) How will it do us better?
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No problem!
A petition is for Samsung, a bounty is for hackers.
**UPDATE**
We're now over 100 signatures in! Thanks to all who have signed already! If you haven't already, a minute of your time would greatly be appreciated to sign the petition. Thanks to all Note 8 users!
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**UPDATE**
We're now over 100 signatures in! Thanks to all who have signed already! If you haven't already, a minute of your time would greatly be appreciated to sign the petition. Thanks to all Note 8 users!
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WOT - we had thousands for locked s7's and totally ignored.
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WOT - we had thousands for locked s7's and totally ignored.
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Yeah @gaww I try to be optimistic because everyone's effort is 1 step closer to to end this. But.... we will see
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Yeah @gaww I try to be optimistic because everyone's effort is 1 step closer to to end this. But.... we will see
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It is hopeless- that is why I dumped my US model and bought international s7e. I have both s8 port and early oreo ROM on it.
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It is hopeless- that is why I dumped my US model and bought international s7e. I have both s8 port and early oreo ROM on it.
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I would I paid off my phone, but it's too much of a hassle for me to sell it and find a new one. I'm broke and still in school? I had an Exynos A5 2016 before this and definitely going for Exynos next time around
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I would I paid off my phone, but it's too much of a hassle for me to sell it and find a new one. I'm broke and still in school[emoji23] I had an Exynos A5 2016 before this and definitely going for Exynos next time around
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Understand - good luck.
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Signed, always remaining hopeful!
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Signed. Doubtful, but hopeful. I don't know the rules around it but I feel like setting up a community bounty and seeing who would be willing to chip in might be a bit more effective. I feel like the Snap Note 8 community is pretty sizable to sum up enough of a bounty to attract some capable hackers to put some time in.
Signed I'm sure it won't matter but at least we tried right? Hopefully someone can eventually bust this thing wide open would be a nice phone to do whatever we want on it. MAN why did I go back to the AT&T route instead of international unlocked?
Signed.
Later than sooner, i wont say it's impossible, but for sure damn near. It's about forums and private site's, (US) who will make it possible. I've been programming for a little over 20 years although a different kind, CNC programming. Ive taken apart many phones including the note 8. Making a custom removable back cover is easy but when it comes down to analyzing every part in the phones. G-code was my first programming language to ever learn but 20 years later ive come to understand many languages. I'm just one part of a large group of people, each with a different set of skills. If anyone know's how to read a blueprint or schematics, or have a knowledge of how qualcomm bootloaders work in general on the note 8 specifically. sorry if this not the right place to post, ive been aware of the forum for long, signed up when the s8 came out. I want to contribute, just never have thought saying thing here as i havnt seen anything about custom modifications so the physical parts.
Signed still haven't lost faith
vin_001 said:
Thanks for the support, and what's the main difference between a bounty and petition? (On XDA at least?) How will it do us better?
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Okay, a bounty involves donations, which does seem more attractive to Samsung, but I'm not sure how to set up donation links, secure payment, etc.... If someone does and makes a thread, that'll be cool too.
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So to be clear, a petition shows a desire by the community to change something. Even if you got 10,000 signatures. Thats a small small slice of the pie for Samsung.
Bounties are to give individuals that may have the know how to achieve a goal, some incentive to do so via monetary compensation. I highly doubt a company like samsung or any large publicly traded company would even acknowledge a bounty and Im sure there are some legal rules against doing so. Not to mention they stand to make more money from NOT unlocking the bootloader and compromising knox than they stand to make from a bounty on xda..
If this bootloader is to ever be unlocked it will be by a team of code breakers as it took a team of coders to create this bootloader I'm sure. The bounty has to be a lot higher. Maybe there's a way of hard wiring through the eeprom and recoding the bootloader. I knew someone who did that to recode the mileage on a new odometer without going to the car dealer but I guess that's rookie stuff compared to this.
only a bounty on XDA would even make it ever so slightly possible; some talented folks have tried since day 1 without success..
petition to Samsung? now THATS funny!
They could care less about any sort of petition to make their devices less secure..
Signed,
I hope that the snapdragon variant does get an unlocked bootloader, but I would be extremely surprised if that ever happened. It is all completely under control of the US carriers as they are the driving force that causes the bootloader to remain locked. I originally had a Canadian SM-N950W and after being annoyed by how I couldn't do what I want with my own hardware that I shelled out a pretty penny for, I recently bought a SM-N950F from Amazon and sold the W. I think that's probably everyone's best way to go. Voting with your wallet is the only way to solve such problems. Although, since there is a large majority of users who have the snapdragon models who don't care to root, I don't see it making a huge difference in the long run.
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Signed,
I hope that the snapdragon variant does get an unlocked bootloader, but I would be extremely surprised if that ever happened. It is all completely under control of the US carriers as they are the driving force that causes the bootloader to remain locked. I originally had a Canadian SM-N950W and after being annoyed by how I couldn't do what I want with my own hardware that I shelled out a pretty penny for, I recently bought a SM-N950F from Amazon and sold the W. I think that's probably everyone's best way to go. Voting with your wallet is the only way to solve such problems. Although, since there is a large majority of users who have the snapdragon models who don't care to root, I don't see it making a huge difference in the long run.
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Wallet is only way to vote unfortunately. Why would they ever unlock this when the note 4 is still locked? Eol phone and they don't unlock it, reason being then you wouldn't buy the new model. This will never happen, I'm sorry.
Note 8 killed my Samsung loyalty. All previous tv's phone etc. Never again.