I did some more checking and I'm wondering if most Android apps are compatible with both Intel Atom and Arm processors. My concern is giving an Atom-based tablet to a relative and having her favorite games and apps not run on an x86 architecture.
Here's the tablet: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231269
Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you.
PS: Love XDA for the great help and knowledge I have gained over the years
audit13 said:
I did some more checking and I'm wondering if most Android apps are compatible with both Intel Atom and Arm processors. My concern is giving an Atom-based tablet to a relative and having her favorite games and apps not run on an x86 architecture.
Here's the tablet: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231269
Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you.
PS: Love XDA for the great help and knowledge I have gained over the years
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When compared to ARM , x86 has less number of Apps support . But now a days with increase in Intel products its gaining more support . I had seen fifa and some other games had no support for x86 in past . I would suggest ARM instead of x86 if I had to ...
Thank you for the response.
I purchased the tablet from Staples for $170 CAD, new and sealed in a box. I was interested in a 10" tablet with an HD screen. I see that most 10" tablets have a 1200x800 screen while the Asus has a 1980 x 1200 screen. Any tablets I could find with a HD screen were over $300 CAD.
I will try out the tablet and, if it doesn't support the apps my relative needs, I can return if for a refund.
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Not sure if this is the correct forum to post this. I have searched the web and this forum and only found partial answers so please excuse me if this has been discussed. If so a reply with the link would be very helpful.
With AMD and Intel both producing low powered x86 chips, especially AMDs C-50 which incorporates the Radeon HD graphics processor on the same chip, I was wondering if there are any limitations for hardware manufacturers to use these kind of chips on Tablets running Android.
I know currently Google does not have an x86 port of their own, but are there any particular reasons that would stop them if the chips were comparable in power usage and have faster performance? What would be some drawbacks? Would all the apps run fine on the x86 architecture or would each app need to be recompiled to run on these devices?
I guess what I'm really asking is with your expertise do you see x86 processors as a future of Android tablet computing?
Thanks in advance for all the input.
In theory, they'd just have to re-write the bytecode interpreter on the Dalvik-VM (Assuming it works like Sun's Java VM) Everything you run on your android is on a virtual machine, meaning it has the capability of being cross platform. So yes. It's very possible.
http://www.androidx86.org have you checked this site out??
1st ICS build for virtual machines
Just check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19824180
Given the choice with all other things being equal, I'd take a modern ARM over an X86 chip, unless I'm going to run Windows ware. I've used x86 for like almost 20 out of nearly 23.5 years, and wouldn't trust an X86 Android tablet, now that I've dug into my TF .
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Given the choice with all other things being equal, I'd take a modern ARM over an X86 chip, unless I'm going to run Windows ware. I've used x86 for like almost 20 out of nearly 23.5 years, and wouldn't trust an X86 Android tablet, now that I've dug into my TF .
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Wouldnt trust it for what reason?
Windows 8 will be released with an x86 and ARM version.
The Android OS itself runs very smoothly on x86, I have been using a small hp thinclient t5565 as a debug machine instead of my phone or a virtual machine for 2 weeks now and it performs admirably. Granted I cant play HD games on it, but thats what I have the Enjoy 7 tablet for. android-x86 is just brilliant, in many cases the generic froyo and gingerbread builds breathe new life into old rusty machines, making them very useful once more. The only thing missing, is better generic hardware support for ethernet and various 3D display devices. I am currently looking at an option of using android-x86 as a swop and go solution, since my test machine runs the installed system completely from a USB thumb drive. Which means if it breaks, pull the stick out, pop in another machine and you are back to work. Perfect solution for a POS terminal, library internet access machine or even something to keep the kids out of your hair.
ashmem in Android x86
I developed a simple shared memory IPC in Linux already and I would also like to do it in Android x86.
Does anyone knows on how to do this(shared memory or should I call it "ashmem"?) ?
I really need your help. I'm still a beginner in Android x86, so I hope you can give a step-by-step guide.
Any news on when this hits Android? Thoughts? Insights?
There have been a few phones announced, one from Motorola, no idea when we will see them. If Intel phones are anything like Android x86, a lot of software will be incompatible and I can't see them doing that well. I would rather see the Intel SOCs be used to make netbooks. But if you could make an x86 lapdock that could boot Windows from a phone you'd have real potential with the business user market.
As the title suggests, from the specs the device is given. This should be possible. Since the tablet is just now coming out, there are few forums for it. Even the Nvidia forums don't have a section for it, let alone XDA's forum. Which is why this is under modding.
The Nvidia Shield Tablet meets the Windows 8.1 requirements and uses intel chipsets. It's not a matter of if as much as when. Which is my request to the devs. Make the tablet either dual boot windows 8.1 and android or a full install of windows 8.1
Best of luck to you all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJSWe6Ane5A
At 2:39, you get the kernal build number that comes in the stock tablet. I know very little about kernals so I leave that to your discretion.
If anyone has any comments or relevant information to help developers with pushing a windows build into the tablet please feel free speak.
Are there any forums on xda for the Shield Tablet? Its running android, and its most likely rootable.
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[Update]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJSWe6Ane5A
At 2:39, you get the kernal build number that comes in the stock tablet. I know very little about kernals so I leave that to your discretion.
If anyone has any comments or relevant information to help developers with pushing a windows build into the tablet please feel free speak.
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Anybody try to root this with towelroot?
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Anybody try to root this with towelroot?
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Yes i just got mine and rooted it with towelroot. works great, got xposed framwork up and running.
Wait wait wait. The Shield Tablet has Intel chipsets? So I can run Desktop mode and say install Steam and play lower end games if this became feasible? I'm almost positive already that Nvidia said that the Tegra K1 has DirectX capabilities, I would LOVE to play games like Halo PC and other lower end titles on this tablet! Especially if someone made drivers that recognized the Shield Controller as an XInput device!
Which is why I started this thread. To see what the devs have to say about this. If there is any chance XDA devs can do this, it will almost certainly change the scope of gaming at home and on the go.
On a side note, there are already videos of the tegra K1 running the dolphin emulator. While previous K1 devices could only run games to a certain extent, over at the Dolphin forums the devs there are already discussing full speed emulation with almost all Gamecube games and some Wii games. For Dolphin it comes down to CPU strength since both consoles only run on 1 core. While the tablet is quad core, the software can't connect to the other 2 cores due to information process paths which leaves 1 core(They managed 2 cores as an option, not sure how) The Dolphin emu needs to atleast 2 times that to run gamecube(485mhz) games and 4 times for the Wii(800 mhz). The Nvidia Tablet is a 2ghz. Which just isn't strong enough to run wii games. So getting Windows ported over is important for overclocking the cpu efficiently to a level Wii games can handle, and pc games a bonus.
Nope, nope, nope.
Hey, guys. I just randomly ran across this thread, and I wanted to let you know that the reason why nobody has ported Windows 8 to the nVidia shield tablet is that it uses an ARM processor. Yes, this processor is made by Intel, but it is an Intel MOBILE processor, not a full x86 architecture processor.
So, although it may take some reading for you to understand the basic incompatibilities here, I will tell you that running Windows 8 on this thing is not possible in any universe. The only Windows OS which will run on an ARM processor is Windows RT. But everyone hates Windows RT, and not a single Windows RT device has been made since 2013.
However, on a happier note, Android 5.0 Lollipop does add support for x86 and 64bit processors. So, a future in which we have dual booting Windows 8 / Android tablets is not unfeasible.
Hi all,
I was doing a bit of research to find any news about Ubuntu Touch on x86 platform. But i could not find much of info
So i start this thread for those who are interested to know (Includes me) about UBUNTU Touch on x86 Platform.
Below are the list of good phones with Intel Atom processors. As Ubuntu good with Intel Processors , it should be easy to post to x86 Phones.
Please post if you have any ROM here for Intel phones.
Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 are good & affordable phones to start with.
PS: This is my post. So apologise for the brevity & mistakes
In theory it should be possible to run Ubuntu on an x86 phone as there is also an x86 emulator. I don't know of any actual ROM though.
Thanks. And is there any active development happening on x86 Ubuntu phone ?
And I assume it would be easy to build one . as Ubuntu and x86 is going along for a while now
That would be my ideal phone that can act as a desktop when docked and a phone for the rest.
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I don't think that any hardware manufacturer is currently working on an x86 phone. The two phones which will be released later this year will run on the armhf architecture.
Oh, and please note that as of now it does not covert into a desktop environment yet.
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Love Ihis Idea!
Yes we need development in this area, yes there are a few x86 phones out there like the Intel AZ210 being the most advertised and some others the only complaint about x86 phones is they are the gas hog of the Mobile world but hopefully the Intel M micro processor can lead us into the age of X86 phones. and i would love for some one to port ubuntu touch to one of these devices, please please please!:laugh:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
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May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
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I'm sorry to disappoint you but the UI does not converge (which is the expression they use for the scaling) yet. Currently, they are focusing on bringing the OS to a state which can be released to manufacturers (that's what they call their rtm milestone). According to Canonical and Meizu (one of the two manufacturers) we can see Ubuntu phones later this year, probably in December! During the next development cycle they will then start work on the desktop UI. The current desktop images which use Unity 8 only display the tablet UI.
What about the x86 Ubuntu touch images?
x86 is the 32 bit architecture, right? Images for an i386 emulator are already available out there. If you want to install it on your Ubuntu desktop, check out the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
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Never mind, forgot about droidboot instead of uefi. *sigh* we need a grub friendly drodboot.
Android kernel boots with out grub. Can we do something similar
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Any news for Ubuntu Touch x86?(Intel Atom z3580) Tnx
Reading so much things about Chromebook that I want now test by myself but which one should i buy...Acer R11, Asus flip, HP 14 ...lenovo ?
I'm loosing my mind... Could you help me to choice referring your experiences
Thanks
Asus Chromebook Flip because it has support for Android apps from Google Play Store.
older refurbs can work well
This might not be the direction you wanrt to go, but I liked the acer c720 (refurb).
Successfully ran crouton (trusty( on it (more like "briskly walked" crouton on it).
The version I had could not be reasonably upgraded from 2 GB of RAM.
I found a page about upgrading acer chromebooks, you can find it by searching for "How to upgrade the Acer C7 Chromebook" (i.r. noob, thus no link)
I then found an older c710-2834 (higher clock on previous-gen celeron), swapped in an SSD and added RAM to the spare slot.
I ended up with an ultraportable with 10 GB DDR3 and a 240 GB hard drive that actually runs crouton (occasionally even sprinting), at a very low cost.
The caveat is that the slightly more power-hungry processor along with upgrades trade off some of the battery life that the c720 had.
Whichever way you go, I hope it works out well for you.
Thanks for your answer... Asus chromebook flip is not available in France.... Only amazon us but no azerty keyboard... So the last one Chromebook out in France is Acer r11 with better CPU and same versatility.... Tablet mode, PC mode and one another.... It cost 299€
I don't know if chrome os will be fine for me but I'm searching for something different....I also saw that chrome os could be installed also under a raspberry pi 3.... So may be I could try this os under this device before buying one real Chromebook....
The new way to run android apps in native is interesting
Mchasard said:
Reading so much things about Chromebook that I want now test by myself but which one should i buy...Acer R11, Asus flip, HP 14 ...lenovo ?
I'm loosing my mind... Could you help me to choice referring your experiences
Thanks
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If you have an old laptop sitting around, load CloudReady Chromebook clone software on it. I have a Dell 3010 Chromebox and I have CloudReady loaded on an old Dell 1545 laptop. CloudReady is nearly identical to a Chromebook. At least you can get the feel of a Chromebook before buying one.
CloudReady by Neverware. Free for individual use.
http://www.neverware.com/#introtext-3
http://www.neverware.com/freedownload/
The HP Chromebook 11A is a good choice. It has got a great design and a powerful mediatek processor.
Yeah even I was reading about this Chromebook today. Great choice for budget users tbh. If you're still looking for a good chromebook, I'd also suggest the Lenovo Duet Chromebook. Both have fab mediatek chipsets and are under Rs. 26K. The Acer Spin 311 is good too.