How hot does it get? - Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm concerned that because the nexus 9 uses almost the same nvidia chipset as the nvidia shield tablet, that the nexus 9 will have overheating problems. The nvidia shield got so hot that it basically cracked the case. Please let me know what your experiences are.

Deltadroid said:
I'm concerned that because the nexus 9 uses almost the same nvidia chipset as the nvidia shield tablet, that the nexus 9 will have overheating problems. The nvidia shield got so hot that it basically cracked the case. Please let me know what your experiences are.
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Hello,
From playing with mine for around an hour, it does get pretty warm but not hot enough to cause concern for me. I have seen tablets get much hotter in the past.

Subjectively, the back of mine feels about as hot as my Shield Tablet (departed). But the side/frame is aluminum, unlike the Shield which was plastic. So I'm not concerned.

Mine got a little warm but nothing hot

Deltadroid said:
I'm concerned that because the nexus 9 uses almost the same nvidia chipset as the nvidia shield tablet, that the nexus 9 will have overheating problems. The nvidia shield got so hot that it basically cracked the case. Please let me know what your experiences are.
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Mine definitely gets warm on the top half (holding in portrait) but I wouldn't say hot. Nothing unreasonable...my LG G3 gets warmer/hot.

I think the overheating problems mainly occur when playing graphic intensive games. The GPU (not the CPU) is probably the reason why it gets so warm. I wonder what would happen after a couple hours of playing Trine 2. Overheating probably won't happen under normal usage.

Anybody was able to compare how hot does it get compared to ipad? (especially ipad mini 2)

Mine gets warm, not hot.
Compared to my Shield Tablet, it's not even close.

Mine has not gotten even warm...its been plugged in for 3 hours now...setup up apps, browsed web, played a few YouTube videos fired up a few games..candy crush, slots and what not...nothing graphic intensive. Its maybe a degree or two warmer on top vs the bottom...barely noticeable. My g2 will get really warm,even hot if its charging and the screen is on. Not the case here.
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Maybe the battery temp is a better indication of what the internal temp is. The outside could be warm, but the inside could be much warmer. I'm not really concerned about cracked corners like the nvidia shield had with this device, but high internal temp could potentially damage the circuits.
On a side note, it has come to attention that if you press in the middle of the back of the device, there is a lot of flex in the casing. If there is flex when pressing on the back, then there must be a space behind it. Maybe that space was intended to prevent the back of the device from feeling warm. So, it could definitely feel much cooler in the back than it really is inside.

Mine gets randomly hot. Like not even when under heavy load. I was browing the web the other day and it got to 43 C

The area near the rear camera gets warm, however I remember the Nexus 7 getting a lot warmer. I think you can probably run a Google search and find someone concerned about the heat put out by any tablet on the market (iPads included).
It's not something I'm concerned about because these chips are built to withstand a lot of heat and I suspect with future updates they may some refinement with how it runs and certainly when custom kernels start appearing it would be something we'll have a little more control over with having the ability to (hopefully) undervolt and adjust the CPU frequencies.

The Nexus 7 with the Tegra chipset or the Nexus 7 with the Qualcomm chipset got hot?

Just received mine today, when it downloaded and installed the OS update it got really hot, not unlike my Nexus 4 when it's being taxed. Battery drained a lot during that time as well.

I played asphalt8, simple rockets and plague inc for about an hour each, all games that used to set my optimus g on fire, and destroys my g2 battery. I can honestly say my battery took a noticeable hit, but it only got slightly warm. My optimus g used to get too hot to hold and then turn off. My (white 32gb ordered oct 17 delivered this morning) nexus 9 does not get hot, maybe warm like holding someone's hand. I know, this is 100% scientific, but all my other devices have gotten much hotter than what I tried to get this to. /2¢

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roms or mods to reduce heat while gaming

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Ok i just figured out its only one specific area that get warm, in the top right corner. when in landscape mode with power button facing up, this is a non issue as i simply flip the phone to the other side play my games
the back right corner gets a tad warm thats also a non issue and normal for most phones while gaming however I use the included sony case and feel nothing at all.
Love this phone, Iv had a great gaming experience. this will replace my nvidia shield as pc games stream perfectly full speed too. (just some mapping issues with droidmote and HID controllers needs a fixes)
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As this is a thin device the screen gets extremly hot while gaming, is there any rom/mod to workaround this that anyone knows offp?
nielo360 said:
As this is a thin device the screen gets extremly hot while gaming, is there any rom/mod to workaround this that anyone knows offp?
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Well the only way to reduce heat is to downclock the processor, which means you need to root and download setcpu. But ftom my experience, it is not as hot as my previous razr maxx, and the good thing about this phone is there's a throttle control to prevent cpu overheat so no overly hot surface.
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what I notice is that the heat is not consistent Some HD games (Conduit, Ravensword) dont cuz much heat and are reasonable, Novaa 3 causes alot and with MC4 the heat is inconsistent.
nielo360 said:
what I notice is that the heat is not consistent Some HD games (Conduit, Ravensword) dont cuz much heat and are reasonable, Novaa 3 causes alot and with MC4 the heat is inconsistent.
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Yeah usually the more complex the game is, the hotter it will go. But seems like Sony capped it around 60C max so if the temp reaches there, the CPU will throttle.
nielo360 said:
As this is a thin device the screen gets extremly hot while gaming, is there any rom/mod to workaround this that anyone knows offp?
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What's extremly hot according to you? Just to have a scientific perspective.
I don't experience excessive heat, playing deathtrigger 2, gta3, real racing 3, candy crush
OP, are you gaming while the phone is charging? If yes, don't do that.
I'm not the biggest mobile gamer out there, but i have no issues with heat when i play Riptide GP2 and other GPU intensive games.
Ok i just figured out its only one specific area that get warm, in the top right corner. when in landscape mode with power button facing up, this is a non issue as i simply flip the phone to the other side play my games
the back right corner gets a tad warm thats also a non issue and normal for most phones while gaming however I use the included sony case and feel nothing at all.
Love this phone, Iv had a great gaming experience. this will replace my nvidia shield as pc games stream perfectly full speed too. (just some mapping issues with droidmote and HID controllers needs a fixes)
Even though I haven't played much I used setcpu and lowered the max from 2150 -> 1190.
All new phones gets hot in the CPU area. I guess it's impossible to design a thin phone and not get some kind of drawback.
I think due to the glass back of this device, the heat is quickly radiated to the ambient. I've an acer a700 sometimes it get so hot its not comfortable to place your fingers over there.
When playing games you should remove any casing, it works like an insulation. You will end up in a vicious heating cycle.

[Q]Should I replace my Z2 ?

Hello everyone.
I bought my Z2 from Amazon.com. So, As you know, We can replace the phones in 30 days.
I'm in USA for now. And I'll return my hometown after 25 days later from now on.
Here is my problem:
I bought the Z2, and I was aware of that issues that "Heating, Gap between speaker, self-cracking issues etc". But Still, I bought It because I listened my heart and the Z2 the is best phone btw.
The Problem that is blows my mind : The Over-Heating. I'm not talking about the "4K Recording over heating" I know that I have this issue and I don't care about this.1080p is still good.
The thing that I care about, the phone is getting warmer after using 10-15 minutes.
For example; I tested In room temperature, 20-25 C, I've played the game "Hungry Shark" about 10 minutes. Phone got warmed but it's acceptable. After 5 minutes more, It was like I heated the phone under sun and I don't like that.
Even in browsing, Facebook, whatsapp, or other applications, my phone gets warmer too quickly. And while charging, even without using my phone, It gets warmer a little bit.
Anyone who has the same issue or this is really normal ? Should I go for a replacement?
Because I've upgraded z2 from my retired Desire HD and It never get that much warmer.
I appreciated. Thanks.
I'd day that's completely fine. My Z2 heats up quite easily to. Battery is atm 38 degrees and I'm only on WiFi and using XDA app. Glass conducts heat much worse than for example metal (or so I think ). Also since the phone is waterproof and thus sealed it heats up more easily. I doubt that you have to worry about the heat, unless the phone gets really uncomfortable to hold. If it gets too hot it will throttle down and ultimately shut down to prevent it from getting damaged.
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Samsung Galaxy S I9000
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Sony Xperia Z2
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antti91 said:
Glass conducts heat much worse than for example metal (or so I think ). Also since the phone is waterproof and thus sealed it heats up more easily. I doubt that you have to worry about the heat, unless the phone gets really uncomfortable to hold. If it gets too hot it will throttle down and ultimately shut down to prevent it
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Glass is an insulator, metal is a conductor other than that +1.
Please bear in mind you've upgraded from a 1ghz single core CPU to a quad core monster, I'd be astounded if it wasn't getting appreciably hotter.
Its gonna make a very high tech hand warmer in winter time, thats a bonus
antti91 said:
I'd day that's completely fine. My Z2 heats up quite easily to. Battery is atm 38 degrees and I'm only on WiFi and using XDA app. Glass conducts heat much worse than for example metal (or so I think ). Also since the phone is waterproof and thus sealed it heats up more easily. I doubt that you have to worry about the heat, unless the phone gets really uncomfortable to hold. If it gets too hot it will throttle down and ultimately shut down to prevent it from getting damaged.
Phones:
Samsung Galaxy S I9000
Asus Padfone 2
Sony Xperia Z2
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I really appreciated your answer. I hope that it is true that there is some kind of "over-heat protection" or something. But still I'm thinking about it because many other phones, I mean LG G3, they don't have such kind of issue.I mean I've never heard about such kind of thing on forums.
I don't want to say goodbye to my Z2 because I really love the feeling of it. But I have to decide before I returned back to my hometown.After that, it'll be impossible to get a replacement. I want to emphasise that after 4 years, I upgraded my phone and I'm not that kind of person who changes his phone after using it 6 months .
I want to use that phone like for a long time. And something brand-new which is overheating... Makes me think.
Thank you for other answers, and that bonus feauture make me laugh
So, Any other answers from Z2 users ?
I thought u can only return your phone within 30 days if it hasn't been used?. Are u after a replacement or refund?. I got mine from amazon uk, and also have heating issues. My 6yr old always complains it gets to hot when he plays games, never had that issue with my 5s.
gibbo82 said:
I thought u can only return your phone within 30 days if it hasn't been used?. Are u after a replacement or refund?. I got mine from amazon uk, and also have heating issues. My 6yr old always complains it gets to hot when he plays games, never had that issue with my 5s.
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You can return your phone in 30 days. That's what's written in return policy.
I don't know what I'm after at.I couldn't decide what to do. But it seems that everybody has that issue.It's quite easy to heat Z2.
I've got mine from amazon .com. But the good news is that I bought a case for my handset and at least I don't feel the heat so much.
Btw, What is your batch number? Could you check yours ?
Mine is 14w28.
shockss said:
I really appreciated your answer. I hope that it is true that there is some kind of "over-heat protection" or something. But still I'm thinking about it because many other phones, I mean LG G3, they don't have such kind of issue.I mean I've never heard about such kind of thing on forums.
I don't want to say goodbye to my Z2 because I really love the feeling of it. But I have to decide before I returned back to my hometown.After that, it'll be impossible to get a replacement. I want to emphasise that after 4 years, I upgraded my phone and I'm not that kind of person who changes his phone after using it 6 months .
I want to use that phone like for a long time. And something brand-new which is overheating... Makes me think.
Thank you for other answers, and that bonus feauture make me laugh
So, Any other answers from Z2 users ?
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The G3 has overheating problems. My G3 idles at 55degC and during gaming It got very,very hot. It also dropped frames during gaming due to the thermal throttling.
In comparison my Z2 is cool.
I've not had this issue with my z2. It maybe because I don't play games and its winter but general browsing and string HD over LTE only make KT slightly warm. And obviously it only gets warm towards the top where I expected the processor to be. People shouldn't expect processors to stay warm. Even the latest Intel processor can idle at 30 bit the minute you put stress on it, its gonna jump several degrees. This should be a given for any processor
shockss said:
You can return your phone in 30 days. That's what's written in return policy.
I don't know what I'm after at.I couldn't decide what to do. But it seems that everybody has that issue.It's quite easy to heat Z2.
I've got mine from amazon .com. But the good news is that I bought a case for my handset and at least I don't feel the heat so much.
Btw, What is your batch number? Could you check yours ?
Mine is 14w28.
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I'm pretty sure you can only return it in a unused condition.

Nexus 6P does get warm sometimes

So I've been using the phone for about 5 days now, and I have to say it does get warm from time to time. It doesn't get uncomfortably warm/hot, but the increased temperature is noticeable and makes my hand more sweaty. It's most obvious when:
1) Charging (between 0-90%ish)
2) Some moderate use (browsing, games, etc)
Maybe it's just the metal back dispersing heat better, but so far, this is the hottest phone that I've used.
Anyone has the same experience?
mew1838 said:
So I've been using the phone for about 5 days now, and I have to say it does get warm from time to time. It doesn't get uncomfortably warm/hot, but the increased temperature is noticeable and makes my hand more sweaty. It's most obvious when:
1) Charging (between 0-90%ish)
2) Some moderate use (browsing, games, etc)
Maybe it's just the metal back dispersing heat better, but so far, this is the hottest phone that I've used.
Anyone has the same experience?
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It gets slightly hot but I've had hotter such as the G3.
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Hell, my Nexus 5 gets somewhat warm. Not a big deal. Long as it isn't overly hot.
The only time I have noticed the phone to get "hot" was when I was using Dolphin browser to watch videos because of the flash player ability. It got hot especially in the area on the back just below the camera; not extremely hot, but definitely not warm. Other than that, the device runs somewhat warm for other intensive tasks like gaming for me.
lol, what is it about ?? any device get hot while charging or gaming...
Moto X Pure Edition got hotter than this 6P too. It's nothing to be concerned about.
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Yeah my Moto pure was much hotter. 20 degrees hotter. The OPO also was slightly warmer. I think the aluminum does a good job of distributing the heat.
I've seen that it does get warm under certain conditions but it never goes higher than 101°F at its hottest point. And I think the aluminum is cool enough where it never really feels uncomfortable hot.
G4 got BLAZING hot at times
My note 4 gets warm with an extended battery lol
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My 6P gets quite warm when I use Waze on the drive home after work. It's a 25 minute drive. If I keep the screen off, it doesn't get warm hardly at all. I'm feeling the heat when I leave the screen on the entire trip.
My LG G3 gets hot.
The power button on the back gets uncomfortably hot.
For me it got hot when installing all apps at once but very minimal. Unlike my nexus 5; that sucker feels like its on fire.
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What phone in the market doesn't get hot at all? My Oneplus One gets uncomfortable doing similar tasks, it doesn't have a fan the heat has to be dispersed somehow right!
Phone gets warm, no warmer than my M7 I had back in the day. Chalk it up to metal build.
I agree it gets pretty warm and maybe even hot, especially while using Chrome. I have only had the phone a couple days and I'll admit it does bug me how warm it gets. My OPO doesn't get this hot.
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Does the N6P have the heat pipes? I didn't see any in the tear down? I think there is quite a bit of throttling as I notice the performance dropping the more I use it. In saying that, it's not that bad and as I said I've had other phones that have been much worse.
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Can we compare temps here? I downloaded CPU-Z but I'm not exactly sure where to find CPU temps. My battery temp seems to be in the 30-38C range during normal usage. Does that sound right? I'm trying to decide if my device should be getting this warm with normal use or if it's a defect. I may factory reset and choose to set up as a new device. I chose to restore my OPO settings when I originally reset and set it up. Maybe something got installed that shouldn't have been.
Agree with other posts. Any phone gets warm. CPU working its ass off. I've had much much worse.
It gets warm on the finger print button and just above it. Warm. The LG m9 gets so hot my chances of having kids is out the window

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
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COOLEST phone iv'e ever used, even the most demanding games I toss at it, it doesn't go beyond warm.
the warmest time is when its charging!
So far I have read that the Exynos version runs cool and SD820 (some samples) were heating up under heavy use.
i got the exynos version and it does get warmed up while gaming .. it doesn't get uncomfortably warm .. but with that heat pipe i assumed there wouldnt be any heating issues.
What temp. would be considered as abnormal ?
and also which app can i download to find out the temp...... if any
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So far I have read that the Exynos version runs cool and SD820 (some samples) were heating up under heavy use.
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Do you have a link you can share? Cuz if anything I've heard that it's the Exynos 8890 is the hot chip.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/135765/20160223/samsung-galaxy-s7-teardown-reveals-how-its-liquid-cooling-system-works.htm
"For the first time Samsung has established within the smartphone heat-conducting copper tube for cooling. The new chip Exynos 8890 is not only powerful, but also hot!"
Mine has stayed cold (yes, cold) the whole time apart from when I use the Gear VR.
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Mine has stayed cold (yes, cold) the whole time apart from when I use the Gear VR.
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When using the VR mine for really WARM but not as hot as my s5 can get, sometimes with general use.
Funny thing is that with previous phones, heat seemed to = battery drain, however so far battery seems fantastic for me even when got after using the VR.
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Mine is constantly warm around the camera area.
Mine only got hot during initial setup. I haven't ran any games or benchmarks. It's warmer than my MXPE is but I think that's mostly because the MXPE has a bigger, thicker body which dissipates the heat.
Mine warmed up while downloading a ton of movies to the SD card. Ran under some cold water and it was fine from there. lol
Mine ran slightly warm when downloading 20 app's at once, and I wouldn't be noticable if I didn't look for it heh.
No issues with my SD820 heating up. No issues while gaming either.
Runs slightly cooler than Darth Vader's portable life support suit, though not as many flashing lights. You really have to look on the screen when your own eyes.
I've been getting around 80-85f with chrome browsing low brightness but goes up to 95 to 100f with pandora and higher brightness. Does get warm but not too hot.
The first and second day my device was prone to getting warm and got pretty hot during VR use. Today for some reason it remains cool to the touch even after about playing an hour of a 3D game and I used the Gear VR for about 30 minutes and it only got warm. I'm not sure what changed but the difference is really noticeable.
Exynos variant here, been playing Angry Birds 2 for like 15-20mins and the phone was getting quite warm close to camera area. Is that throttling?
its getting hot while watching youtube continuosly
I got the s7 edge when it officially releases. First 2 days, lte enabled and default settings. It's get little warm that you can notice it. If I were to rate it 1-10 on warn department, I would say 3, 10 being really warm, borderline hot like HTC m9. 3rd and 4th day, 4G only and default settings. It doesn't get warm at all. Relatively cool. Tested it on my way to work. An hour trip. Playing Clash Royale 5-6 matches, watching YouTube, browsing reddit using reddit sync pro and moderate chrome browsing. Plus, it's only drain 7%.
Tldr Samsung S7 edge is a keeper. Gorgeous design, longer battery life, SD card and quite honestly, I really love the AOD. Wished there were more options and 3rd party notifications.
anyone actually tested the temp using a temp gun? Otherwise, its all just speculation. I'll see if I can find mine to test while playing games or streaming video.
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Mine has stayed cold (yes, cold) the whole time apart from when I use the Gear VR.
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Same here. As in REALY cold to the touch at times, other than when charging.
Speedy and almost impossible to heat up even after long hours of gaming.

Should I buy one?

A friend has a 32 gig one for sale for just $75.00 in new shape. Should I buy it?
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A friend has a 32 gig one for sale for just $75.00 in new shape. Should I buy it?
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If "good shape" means no stalls, lags, freezes, or reboots, probably should. It depends what you plan on doing with it. It gets hot (upper right back corner) when web surfing. Great for videos, though. I don't do games so don't know about that.
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When it works, its actually a very nice tablet to use. The issue is that it tends to get hot under the collar very quickly and then freezes meaning that a reboot is needed. It is normally at this point that I tend to launch it across the room or seek retribution in other ways. In testament to its build quality, it left a large hole in the plaster on the wall and came out of it unscathed, likewise, having been bounced off of the floor on numerous occasions and banged against counter tops, it doesn't appear to have suffered anything untoward!!!
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When it works, its actually a very nice tablet to use. The issue is that it tends to get hot under the collar very quickly and then freezes meaning that a reboot is needed. It is normally at this point that I tend to launch it across the room or seek retribution in other ways. In testament to its build quality, it left a large hole in the plaster on the wall and came out of it unscathed, likewise, having been bounced off of the floor on numerous occasions and banged against counter tops, it doesn't appear to have suffered anything untoward!!!
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Aaaaaaaand, some of us take tablet gaming a little bit too serious. Web surfing and media consumption don't warrant such extremes. Serves me well most of the time. Got some bubbles on the screen in the corner though so...
75 bucks is a good price for it though.
I like the N9 for the most part. The CPU is one of the fastest ARM processors and it renders web sites and PDF files quite well. That's mostly what I want out of a tablet.
It plays games alright, but it will inevitably throttle. It gets hot. It's really too hot of a chip for tablet gaming. This is not unique to the Nexus 9 though. Throttling and resulting erratic performance are pretty commonplace. The Nintendo Switch is an interesting showcase of solutions to that - a fan and low clock speeds for the Tegra X1.
My main complaints about the N9 would be that it really should have 4GB RAM and that the EMMC storage chip seems a bit slow. Slow storage performance is usually the cause of system hitches and stutters. The OS is waiting on reads/writes to complete. I've had lots of tablets/phones like this though and the Nexus 9 is definitely not bad. It's just not impressive when you compare it to a modern upper-end phone.

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