So here is a question...
I have been updating roms on my devices (TP, Samsung Galaxy S devices, etc)for the last year or so.
My question is why do some of my devices (TP to be exact) take advantage of the Google Backup/Restore feature where as my other devices (Galaxy S - Captivate & Galaxy S Wifi 5.0) do not. I mean, I check the boxes during initial setup to allow Google to backup/restore my settings but why do some work and some don't?
When I flash new roms on my TP (CM9) I notice that as soon as I setup my Google account, it starts downloading all my apps that are associated with my tablet. Not 100% but close enough where I have to hunt for only a handful manually. Of course all the sideloaded apps and Amazon App store apps don't load automatically but that's ok. I would then use TIBU to restore data on some of these apps to get the TP back to operational state.
Now, on the other hand, my Captivate (ICS 4.0.3 - ICSSGS RC4.2) and my Galaxy S WiFi 5.0s (GB - Stock rooted and GB - 2.3.6 Custom) do not start the auto restore after the account setup.
Why is this different between devices? Is it rom dependant?
Anyone know?
I noticed this too on my EVO when I used specific roms. For one of my roms, the developer eventually fixed the issue a few releases down the road. That's all I know of that though.
Generally, most rom developers prefer you to use something other than Googs backup. Titanium is a good example. Works well w/ backups, and restore. Alot of apps that are generally for rooting are not in market. Just my opinion...
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JohnnyEpic said:
Generally, most rom developers prefer you to use something other than Googs backup. Titanium is a good example. Works well w/ backups, and restore. Alot of apps that are generally for rooting are not in market. Just my opinion...
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I get that... that was my understanding and my experience so far... I just always wondered about the purpose of the Google Backup/Restore during initial setup since it never did anything... until the last few rom updates on my TP. The first time I noticed was with XRON GB rom... it was downloading apps (not all) even though I had deleted them all... odd I thought... and then I saw it with CM9 A.5 and A.6... and now with A2... and I am starting to like it... I use my tablet with apps loaded. I don't keep it for just testing...
I do use TIBU but I find it more assuring to install apps fresh from the Market after each update. This consumes a lot of time.
With the latest release, I was able to get my setup with all the apps, desktop configuration, widgets, etc... in 30 mins... fresh to operational in 30 mins instead of 3-4 hours that used to take for me to recreate my settings... I am a bit anal about how things need to look so I would take the time... now it seems I don't have to as much.
I always do a cwm backup before flashing a new rom. After flashing, I do a restore data. This gets all my apps back. It's worked fine so far.
I have 3 nook tablets amongst my family that I rooted from 1.4.0 using indirect's method that have been running flawlessly since Christmas. That said, my mother's tablet today decided that it wanted to basically semi-wipe the nook OS and deleted all of the home screen icons, app history, and ebooks from the tablet. After rebooting I was able to get the apps back, but none of the BN ebooks want to re-download and the BN store doesn't even mention that any of her purchased books even exist. I was finally able to get them back on by copying the epub files from the desktop client, but they have no cover art, just list the titles as a bunch of numbers, and all of the extra features such as lending and recommendations are disabled. Anyone have any ideas as to what I can do to reset or regegister the BN portion of the tablet without wiping and rerooting the whole thing?
My mother mostly uses her tablet for reading ebooks and games and as such still uses the default nook OS (she insists its better, so unfortunately CM7 isn't an option). I mostly rooted to get her access to amazon content for the occasional app and the kindle book store, but I'm pretty sure it's not the root at fault for this glitch. I've seen several threads about similar problems on the official forums, but nobody there has a solution (or a clue it seems) so I figured I'd ask here.
There is one way, prepare an sdcard with CWM, download any of the stock roms with root and B&N content in development section and copy the file to your sdcard, boot into CWM , format system and only system from Mount&Storage then install the ROM you downloaded following the instructions of the respective thread.
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Hmmm, that sounds like it might just work. I'll have to propose the idea to her and see what she thinks. I offered to back everything up and do a full wipe and reroot earlier but she refused and said she would live with it as she didn't want to risk losing her game saves... Wish she didn't prefer the BN home screen over the others as I've had nothing but problems with it. I've tried to get her to use a third party launcher, but she hated them all because she couldn't put books straight on the home screen.
Are there any apps or home screens out there that would allow this (books on home screen)? Also, does anyone know if the BN reader on the android store has an identical layout to the stock tablet version? Maybe I can convert her if I can come up with something similar to the BN launcher.
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Hmmm, that sounds like it might just work. I'll have to propose the idea to her and see what she thinks. I offered to back everything up and do a full wipe and reroot earlier but she refused and said she would live with it as she didn't want to risk losing her game saves... Wish she didn't prefer the BN home screen over the others as I've had nothing but problems with it. I've tried to get her to use a third party launcher, but she hated them all because she couldn't put books straight on the home screen.
Are there any apps or home screens out there that would allow this (books on home screen)? Also, does anyone know if the BN reader on the android store has an identical layout to the stock tablet version? Maybe I can convert her if I can come up with something similar to the BN launcher.
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B&N Market app is nothing compared to original, apart that if you change to CM7 or other it's totally different interface if she likes B&N as is then is because she likes the interface too and all the B&N apps can't be run from other OS because they are dependent of the stock framework. If you get CWM up and running you could easily backup her data and do what i told you. It will safe you time and headaches.
Take a look here - METHOD#1 and here
When you restore your system you could install the app to install CWM internal, which is always good to have.
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Hi folks,
I just bought the Arnova childpad for my kid, it seemed a better toy for my kid then the LighInTheBox 7" pad that I bought. (It isn't that powerfull even after hacking the system)
The childpad is very responsive. Although the screen is not easy to control, scrolling through a list for example, always makes you select the first item when you touch the screen.
I have some issues with the Childpad, could anybody advice:
- In ICS, how can I move apps to the SD card, any software to move doesn't allow that. Nor in the app settings, there's no button Move To SD. Is there a way in ICS
- The Childpad can't access the PLAY store, nor does it let you setup a google account. Could it be fixed?
- How can I move nice game apps from my other tablet to this tablet by SD card. What software is suitable for it?
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Hi folks,
I just bought the Arnova childpad for my kid, it seemed a better toy for my kid then the LighInTheBox 7" pad that I bought. (It isn't that powerfull even after hacking the system)
The childpad is very responsive. Although the screen is not easy to control, scrolling through a list for example, always makes you select the first item when you touch the screen.
I have some issues with the Childpad, could anybody advice:
- In ICS, how can I move apps to the SD card, any software to move doesn't allow that. Nor in the app settings, there's no button Move To SD. Is there a way in ICS
- The Childpad can't access the PLAY store, nor does it let you setup a google account. Could it be fixed?
- How can I move nice game apps from my other tablet to this tablet by SD card. What software is suitable for it?
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I'm in the same boat as you, I bought one for our little guy... Netflix doesn't work properly and no market. I'm trying to root/market it as we speak...
You can sideload the apk for amazon market to get most apps on it, but you can't do much about the issues with the rom without root...
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Got it rooted using unlockroot 2.3 (Actually I had superuser installed and it never would prompt for root access, I ran unlockroot and suddenly could get root.) Now if I could get netflix going this thing would be ready for action.
I think that's the way they have set it up. Although it must be possible to put a new Android rom on it, I'm sure.
The child market is intresting, but because the screen is so sensitive, it's hard to select from it. Plus it's intresting to get other Play-apps.
Did you find a way to load apps from the SD? I managed with the backup app from my phone to get some apps loaded, but not all.
Seems there aren't many users for this tablet.
Any idea how I could install a new clean Android on it?
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Seems there aren't many users for this tablet.
Any idea how I could install a new clean Android on it?
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No, but I'm wondering the same thing as well. IF CM9 could be easily ported (shouldn't be hard considering it is already running ics) or worst case scenario even CM7 would suffice. I wouldn't mind the rom so much if I could just get netflix, because my son isn't quite as OS critical as I am.
I'm very intrested as well. There's not much A in this Q section here :-D
Maybe we should ask elsewhere?
There must be an easy way to reinstall the system, I'm sure .
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- In ICS, how can I move apps to the SD card, any software to move doesn't allow that. Nor in the app settings, there's no button Move To SD. Is there a way in ICS
- The Childpad can't access the PLAY store, nor does it let you setup a google account. Could it be fixed?
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I have the same problem. If you have a good idea, I want well to know it
From what I read about the childpad on the Arctablet.com "The ChildPad shares its design with the Arnova 7d G3, the only difference are the colors. While Arnova 7d G3 is just black, the ChildPad is painted in nice-looking white and blue colors" So presumably any thing that comes out for it should, in theory, work on the childpad. I haven't seen much in the way of rom development for it either, but there are some promises of roms coming. I thing we are in one of those spots where it is a waiting game to see if anyone picks up development on either of these devices.
I bought the tablet for my grand daughter. I have installed only a few apps and the tablet is already running out of space. So I am very much interested in learning how to load apps onto the SD card. I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590807 and was wondering if this could also be apply to a rooted Childpad?
Those with Childpads - could you please help me by letting me know how much storage the device shows - ie either the Internal settings -> storage or when you plug in to a PC and view properties.
My two both show 2gb of total storage - is this correct?
The devices are labelled as 4gb and find it hard to believe that 2gb of the advertised storage is inaccessible to users.
Many thanks
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Those with Childpads - could you please help me by letting me know how much storage the device shows - ie either the Internal settings -> storage or when you plug in to a PC and view properties.
My two both show 2gb of total storage - is this correct?
The devices are labelled as 4gb and find it hard to believe that 2gb of the advertised storage is inaccessible to users.
Many thanks
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The device is 4 gigs of storage. The 2gb is free. Yes 2gigs is all the preloaded CRAP on the device. There are a bunch of videos as well as audio and preloaded apps.
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So I got one of these for my 3 year old this last weekend, here's my observations:
- I could not root, everytime I put the device in USB debugging mode it would not detect on my PC.
- Sideloaded google play store. Installed fine, every time I launch it minimizes itself and doesn't load.
- Sideloaded Angry Birds Space and it worked great
- Apps with adult adds....really? Does my son need a dating site add? Planning on installing ad blocker once i can get root.
- Screen is weird. Not as capable as a standard tablet. I have to use my finger nail and/or press really hard.
If anyone finds a more reliable form of rooting the Child Pad please send me the link.
-Magic
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The supplied apps and videos etc are (on mine) all in the accessible "Internal storage", ie what you see when you connect to a PC.
When I do a properties I get xMB free of 2.05GB. Therefore if I delete ALL of this supplied content, the maximum storage I am going to get is 2.05GB which is far from the advertised 4GB.
Is this what other people see - 2GB available?
Silly question, maybe I missed it in this thread, but how did you install the google apps on those childpads. I bought 2 of them for my kids and I started installing their gmail account on it. Now it's via the exchange function, but I rather like to use the official gmail app. Also gtalk would be handy as they now use gtalk on the PC to talk to me when I'm working in the office.
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Silly question, maybe I missed it in this thread, but how did you install the google apps on those childpads. I bought 2 of them for my kids and I started installing their gmail account on it. Now it's via the exchange function, but I rather like to use the official gmail app. Also gtalk would be handy as they now use gtalk on the PC to talk to me when I'm working in the office.
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Simply download the .apk from the web. However, these apps do not function as they are locked out in this version of ICS. Currently there is a custom ROM in the works with root and play store enabled.
this is probably what you are looking for
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featured/arnova-childpad-custom-firmware-google-play-root/
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hey, i also have one of these for my 4 year old but hi broke off the MICRO USB PORT so in the begining it was out of service so i screwd it open to connect a USB cable derectly to the battery and so charge it trouh my pc i removed the broken part with my solder iron and its working again now
Now i like to connect to pc again anyone know a sulution i cant idententfie the original part to order a new and it will be a hard job soldering the thiny component any alternated point on the board maybe or how i can find out any help would be great
thx
Thx, worked perfect !!! Anyone an idea how to move the apps to the SD, since there is only 400Mb available for the apps, it's almost filled by now with some regular games...
you people who fell victim to this bad device like me might want to check out
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?1881-NEOCM10-Version-1-25&p=36054#post36054
thats the best firmware currently it runs really fast and without problems except for one gamebreaking bug sadly.
the screen is mirrored after flash meaning its unusable but they are working on it and it should be fixed soon
(if anyone has a tip on how to get into the screen calibration thing in 4.1 android , or force it to do the calibration at next startup please help)
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-x86/uNo7a39-s3I
The mirrored screen problem also happened with other devices and this is kernel based.
The link above is a dirty trick to fix the issue. But it requires a recompile of the kernel.
Exelletor on the Arctablet forum told me that recompilong this rk29xx based kernel waa not that easy.
I had a look to the info provided and i could more or less pinpoint the things that needed to be changed, but currently I did not find the time to perform the compile.
Hope this can already help?
I want to start porting apps. What do I need to know about porting? I have tried porting libs and other data and didn't have luck so I know I'm missing so something. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Well if you mean by porting you want to move apps from one device to another I found a good way to do that is to back up all apps via titanium on the device you have and then copy the titanium folder to the sd card you're going to use on the amaze and restore from that. Careful not to restore any system apps but most work well. As an example I subscribe to the wsj and the amaze app is pretty fast and works. On my Prime that version won't install instead they use a much more media intense app which while nice takes 5-10 minutes to load the paper. So I did the above trick and now I can use whatever on my prime, no problems.
Thanks, but I don't own the device that the app is on. I'm trying to get Snote from the Galaxy 10.1 tablet to work on my Thinkpad.
Hi everyone.
I'm at the point of losing my mind with this bloody app helium..
When I first used the app for my nexus 7 too galaxy nexus it was fantastic and did everything I expected it to do,
so much so I bought it for like £2.
I currently have 3 devices now, Nexus 7 tablet, Galaxy nexus phone and P880 LG...
im gonna be selling the Gnexus and moving onto the p880.
The problem now is that two bugger apps hillclimbracing and fail hard wont seem to restore from either
dropbox, google drive or by finding it from the wifi list and copying it across the network.
The app says "back up complete" however they wont restore to the other device, it just fails (I have also checked and made sure that the apps are not running in the background before I try to overwrite them)
the p880 and Gn are both rooted and running MIUI and the Nexus7 is rooted and using stock rom 4.4.2
all permissions are set to allow...
can anyone recommend another app that might just do the job without the head ache?
one thing I don't get with helium is when you go to restore and app and its not installed
its wanting to connect to play to download it first, then over write it?
I was also wondering if games like this have copy protection on them but I don't see why
when they are free?