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Hey all,
Since there's no Q&A thread as of yet, I'll be posting my question here.
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I have searched for it but couldn't find the answer.
My Xperia S just came in today, I started recharging the device when it hit around the 10%.
However, it's recharging so, so slow! Is it supposed to be this slow?
I thought the Xperia S was supposed to have fast charge capabilities?
If so, how do I charge it faster?
It's a Dutch unit btw.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Flamez said:
Hey all,
Since there's no Q&A thread as of yet, I'll be posting my question here.
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I have searched for it but couldn't find the answer.
My Xperia S just came in today, I started recharging the device when it hit around the 10%.
However, it's recharging so, so slow! Is it supposed to be this slow?
I thought the Xperia S was supposed to have fast charge capabilities?
If so, how do I charge it faster?
It's a Dutch unit btw.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I have a generic UK unit the first charge does take slightly longer. It took around 2.5 hrs after that I got from 1% to 100% in just under 2 hrs. You are not charging via your PC are you?
dragon546 said:
I have a generic UK unit the first charge does take slightly longer. It took around 2.5 hrs after that I got from 1% to 100% in just under 2 hrs. You are not charging via your PC are you?
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Nope, using the supplied charger and cable..
EDIT: Also, there seems to be some lag on the home screen and especially in the app drawer.. Anyone notice this?
There are 2 versions of chargers shipping with the XS, EP800 ( less power output ) and EP850 ( More power output )
check your charger to see if it is an EP800, i am pretty sure it will be. The 850 does its job much faster.
Another way Sony is "cheating" on us.... after i got my XS replaced twice in 1 week and already waiting on another replacement it just do not surprise me anymore that things like this happen with this device.
First Flagship from sony alone and it is already a catastrophe
dragon546 said:
I have a generic UK unit the first charge does take slightly longer. It took around 2.5 hrs after that I got from 1% to 100% in just under 2 hrs. You are not charging via your PC are you?
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Ah, you were absolutely right. Second charge was way faster.
I believe I just recharged 60% within 30 minutes.
katsuru said:
There are 2 versions of chargers shipping with the XS, EP800 ( less power output ) and EP850 ( More power output )
check your charger to see if it is an EP800, i am pretty sure it will be. The 850 does its job much faster.
Another way Sony is "cheating" on us.... after i got my XS replaced twice in 1 week and already waiting on another replacement it just do not surprise me anymore that things like this happen with this device.
First Flagship from sony alone and it is already a catastrophe
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Yep, it's an EP850. The first recharge takes ages, but the second recharge is pretty darn fast.
I don't have any problems as of yet with the XS, except for its laggy home screen.
Wonder if I'm the only one whose home screen is lagging..
What's up with yours?
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Ah, you were absolutely right. Second charge was way faster.
I believe I just recharged 60% within 30 minutes.
Yep, it's an EP850. The first recharge takes ages, but the second recharge is pretty darn fast.
I don't have any problems as of yet with the XS, except for its laggy home screen.
Wonder if I'm the only one whose home screen is lagging..
What's up with yours?
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I don't get screen lag I did take mcafee off my phone. Also any apps downloaded apps you are not using turn the service off.
is ep800 safer 4 battery? quicker charging = shorter battery life?
more mA -> more resistance -> more heat -> less battery cycles life?
belek1979 said:
is ep800 safer 4 battery? quicker charging = shorter battery life?
more mA -> more resistance -> more heat -> less battery cycles life?
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Someone else may know this better, but, as far as I know, Xperia S have tech so it recharge faster without problems.
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It's no safer than the 850.
The phone was made to withstand the 850 charger (one of the selling points actually was its charging). My phone (Tmobile NL) was shipped with the speed charger, but I'm noticing that after a few weeks the phone seems to be charging fast in general, on any charger...or maybe I am just imagining things?
I have an old BB charger that I use sometimes (I have chargers all around the house from old phones, i swear :/) and it seems to also charge it fast.
Edit: Also, on both chargers, my battery life is just as fantastic at night I charge my phone while I sleep though ( I don't get why you wouldn't charge your phone while you sleep?) so maybe my battery is more worn-in than a lot of people.
My phone is plugged into my " old " desire charger at home, which seams to charge faster than the default one , saying that , I also use my PC to charge ,so maybe the little top ups help + the charger at home .
It does last a while now, however we are running a powerful ( mini ) PC , so we cant expect too much !!
i bought a charger online it looks very much like the original bundled one. However i have a couple of questions
1. is there a way i can check the output quality using the phone itself and not a multimeter . Like variation in voltage/current?
2. using a multimeter do i have to tear apart the charger to check the output quality.
any inputs are welcome
sarfaraz1989 said:
i bought a charger online it looks very much like the original bundled one. However i have a couple of questions
1. is there a way i can check the output quality using the phone itself and not a multimeter . Like variation in voltage/current?
2. using a multimeter do i have to tear apart the charger to check the output quality.
any inputs are welcome
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Depends on what you mean by 'output quality'. If you mean the ripple (noise), especially in response to load changes, then no, you can't without oscilloscope and dummy load.
If you do not have this measuring equipment, then I would use these two simple tests:
does the empty phone fully charge within 2 - 3 hours ?
does the touchscreen stay responsive while charging ?
If you can answer both of these questions with yes then one could assume the charger is of good quality.
thanx for an informative reply man. the thing is i use usb charger usually battery is 8 months old . i dont know how long it will charger to recharge. giving these conditions u still think it will take 2-3 hours to charge ? yes the touchscreen stays remains but i think there is the usual "noise " that makes minor error in touchscreen smoothness. do u understand wat i am trying to tell u.
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thanx for an informative reply man. the thing is i use usb charger usually battery is 8 months old . i dont know how long it will charger to recharge. giving these conditions u still think it will take 2-3 hours to charge ? yes the touchscreen stays remains but i think there is the usual "noise " that makes minor error in touchscreen smoothness. do u understand wat i am trying to tell u.
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the minor 'touch screen smoothness' issue will be there while charging thro wall charger for sure and also the charging time do wary depending on how old the battery is
sarfaraz1989 said:
thanx for an informative reply man. the thing is i use usb charger usually battery is 8 months old . i dont know how long it will charger to recharge. giving these conditions u still think it will take 2-3 hours to charge ?
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If the battery is fine (and it should still be after 8 months) charging of an empty battery should happen within 2 - 3 hours.
sarfaraz1989 said:
yes the touchscreen stays remains but i think there is the usual "noise " that makes minor error in touchscreen smoothness. do u understand wat i am trying to tell u.
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If you are able to normally operate your phone while charging, then this is ok.
ok. i will do that and get back to u guys. just one thing. wat info can i get from phone regarding charging current /voltage ? also the original capacity was 1650 mAh . can i recalibrate and get the "new" mAh is there anything like this ? i calibrate my laptop' battery every two months and get its capacity in terms of mW. anything similar to phones ?
sarfaraz1989 said:
ok. i will do that and get back to u guys. just one thing. wat info can i get from phone regarding charging current /voltage ? also the original capacity was 1650 mAh . can i recalibrate and get the "new" mAh is there anything like this ? i calibrate my laptop' battery every two months and get its capacity in terms of mW. anything similar to phones ?
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Search the play store for Battery Monitor Widget. It can give you some more information about your battery, charging, discharging etc.
Hello guys, first I would like to say I am newbie to all these stuff, 2nd i have problem with heating on my Z5c and also battery drain, if anyone has some clue please help.
I have done pretty stupid thing to shower with my phone, I know everything i wasn't suposed to, after that phone is heating more. Also if anyone has some clue I would like to put other ROM on my phone, any suggestions? Thank you in advance, sorry for silly newbish questions
T1n3k said:
Hello guys, first I would like to say I am newbie to all these stuff, 2nd i have problem with heating on my Z5c and also battery drain, if anyone has some clue please help.
I have done pretty stupid thing to shower with my phone, I know everything i wasn't suposed to, after that phone is heating more. Also if anyone has some clue I would like to put other ROM on my phone, any suggestions? Thank you in advance, sorry for silly newbish questions
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I Also have some problems with the battery drain. I have to charge it every night. Its drain from 100 % to 50 % On 8 hours.Sometimes its better and sometimes is this. I guess its an app in the background how drains the battery.
Since last Friday, 26 February, the phone heats up when surfing the Internet. Charge loss is 25-30% per hour. Sony Xperia Z5 Dual.
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
It's time to get a new battery.
Mine is pretty much okay with Oreo update back then. But after just 1++ year usage (bought it in Sept 2017), the battery life just dropped significantly.
Replaced it, and now it working fine. Even the repair center didn't factory reset my device (I'm on Omni ROM), so it couldn't be a software issue.
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
Ratawar said:
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
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garyarts said:
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
tsoump said:
Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
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garyarts said:
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
tsoump said:
Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
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garyarts said:
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
Prove? I can prove in a year
Just think about it. It's simple physics, faster thermal expansion kills cells. That's why they're said not to let discharged fully. Or whatever
tsoump said:
Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
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Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
moemos said:
Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
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Look, many customers have tried these extended batteries but noone can prove that this myth works! On the other hand, many videos and comments have uploaded on the internet and people have shared their experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRdg75PAMw
I believe that it's impossible to extend a battery capacity while the space inside the phone is very specific.
A project, though, is in progress by a member of XDA who is trying to replace GV30 to GV40 battery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/replace-gv30-gv40-t3896369
You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
tsoump said:
It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
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Don't do it. The screen will bulge out. There is essentially 0 give inside the Moto Z chassis. If you're fine seeing into the phone, then it'll work for you. However, I'd probably opt for the iFixit kit. It's an official Moto solution, and while it might have the same problem it won't introduce a worse problem.
May batteries you find online will say "OEM" but they are often rebrands. And even if they're just 0.1mm thicker, the screen won't adhere. A proper phone replace shop ordered me a replacement battery and it was too thick. This was a year ago, and I eventually just replaced it with a $300 new Moto Z from Amazon (I had broken my screen replacing the battery myself).
I don't know the links persay, but I see there's this one from SWARK https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Compatible-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-XT1650-01/dp/B07GQWHLH1
I haven't tried that one myself, but I'd be curious to see the thickness.
Just replacing my moto z battery with cheap (fake?) gv30 that i buy for only around $7 in my local (Indonesia) marketplace
Please look the attached picture for its (peak) performance, and this how i got those number:
- charge to 91% with 5v/1.2A charger (ASUS charger)
- watching movie for 3 hours with airplane mode and bluetooth earphone on
- sleeping with airplane mode on
- using my phone normally with wifi on and data off until the battery reach 3%
Thank you all for your answers and sharing your experiences.
Unfortunately, after buying all I needed from the USA (battery pack and 2 B7000 glue blisters shipped to Argentina) I proceeded to attempt to fix the phone. While heating up the screen to remove it, I burned all of the LCD corners and completely ruined the screen. I don't know what did I do so differently from all of the technicians in videotutorials where thay apply the exact same or even more heat on the screen and still left it intact, but there's nothing that can be done about it except buying a new screen replacement, but since we didn't want to spend much money on this phone, we just discarded it. Such a shame and disgraceful event, it still bugs me out.
Hey guys sorry long post ahead.
I bought my poco last 2018 and the original battery died last year 2022. I bought a replacement battery which lasted me march this year because it bloated and bought another one. My first purchase was a defective one it shuts down at 50% and bought a 2nd one and the issue is it drains fast from 100% to 80% and returns to normal drain from 70% to 20% and then shuts down. I did flash many roms and did some research but the problem still persist and i cant find any answers. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Note: My 2nd battery purchase was fine when i use it, After i charge it for the first time the problem happened until now. anyone experience this kind of sorcery?
Maybe your charger is the problem, try with another.
Flashing rom won't fix the issue, this could mainly be due to either a battery issue or just some software issue that's causing your battery drainage. Otherwise I'd recommend you to just check the charger as well just in-case.
Even when flashing rom you've got to remember that bloat is usually also a cause for most battery drains nowadays
Thank you guys for the suggestions. I will try another charger. Honestly my charging cable has issues though but i don't know what's the relevance of the charger and cable with the draining of the battery. Please enlighten me.
Install Better Battery Stats to check for Wakelocks, Alarms etc. What's the Deep Sleep percentage? 99% time it's the battery to blame.
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I change cable and charger but it persist. I installed Ampere and checked the discharged and minimum is 290ma ranging to 800ma. I think the battery is to blame.
Osiris23 said:
UPDATE:
I change cable and charger but it persist. I installed Ampere and checked the discharged and minimum is 290ma ranging to 800ma. I think the battery is to blame.
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Use 3c Battery Manager to check battery drain in the background even even the device is locked for better stats. How old is the battery?
just newly bought this month. After i installed the battery it has like 70% percent in it and i drained to to 0% then i charged it for the 1st time it reached 100% and drain fast to 80% and slowly draining like normal from 60% percent to 30% to 40%. when it reached 20% i autmatically shuts off.
Osiris23 said:
just newly bought this month. After i installed the battery it has like 70% percent in it and i drained to to 0% then i charged it for the 1st time it reached 100% and drain fast to 80% and slowly draining like normal from 60% percent to 30% to 40%. when it reached 20% i autmatically shuts off.
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Looks like battery issue. Check it for a few more days and if it's not resolved get it replaced within the warranty period. Majority of third-party batteries are utter rubbish though.
BM4E batteries here are rubbish. I think they're old stocks and not genuine. I will try to buy an asus zenphone pro max M1 battery and modify it. If its still not working then its time to replace it.
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Looks like battery issue. Check it for a few more days and if it's not resolved get it replaced within the warranty period. Majority of third-party batteries are utter rubbish though.
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just gonna ask some noob question. Does 3c battery gonna fix battery calibration? its just a monitor app right?
Osiris23 said:
just gonna ask some noob question. Does 3c battery gonna fix battery calibration? its just a monitor app right?
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Of course not. It's better than Ampere to check idle battery drain. That's all.
Osiris23 said:
BM4E batteries here are rubbish. I think they're old stocks and not genuine. I will try to buy an asus zenphone pro max M1 battery and modify it. If its still not working then its time to replace it.
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Initially when Xiaomi had priced the battery exorbitantly I had flirted with the idea of modding ZP MPM1 battery but I had no experience with soldering and Asus wasn't selling the batteries separately. I wasn't particularly enthused about buying third-party MPM1 batteries of questionable quality so I was just waiting patiently.
Later I was fortunate enough to snag an official one just some months before Xiaomi India permanently discontinued all spares including the battery for F1. No advance intimation to the users at all. Just dropped all support out of the blue. Battery price had been massively cut so I was actually thinking to buy another one. For all my future devices I plan to buy a replacement battery in the 3rd year. Currently using Poco F4 which cost nearly 2.5x compared to F1 so might stock two batteries if possible.
Third-party batteries might not fare well with 18W charger. It might be better to use a 10W charger instead.
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Initially when Xiaomi had priced the battery exorbitantly I had flirted with the idea of modding ZP MPM1 battery but I had no experience with soldering skills and Asus wasn't selling the batteries separately. I wasn't particularly enthused about buying third-party MPM1 batteries of questionable quality so I was just waiting patiently.
Later I was fortunate enough to snag an official one just some months before Xiaomi India permanently discontinued all spares including the battery for F1. No advance intimation to the users at all. Just dropped all support out of the blue. Battery price had been massively cut so I was actually thinking to buy another one. For all my future devices I plan to buy a replacement battery in the 3rd year. Currently using Poco F4 which cost nearly 2.5x compared to F1 so might stock two batteries if possible.
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Lucky you. unfortunately no ones selling authentic bm4e's here even xiaomi's service center. I agree with you on buying 2 to 3 spare batteries. I will try to find authentic ZP MPM1 batteries or atleast working third party.
I do not know this particular model or battery, but a while ago, I had a smartphone that was draining the battery like crazy. The same battery with the same ROM was doing fine in another phone of the same model. So sometimes, the phone itself is the issue.