I've noticed using Waze I'll see GPS go in and out, and occasionally I try to post pictures to Instagram and find out there's no GPS tagging in them. Anyone else seen this?
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I've noticed using Waze I'll see GPS go in and out, and occasionally I try to post pictures to Instagram and find out there's no GPS tagging in them. Anyone else seen this?
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YES! Install a GPS Test and you can actually see the amount of Satellites seen go to zero. I can sit in the same place for 5 minutes and it will go from 21 to 0 every 10 - 60 seconds with a clear sky. I am wondering if this is a software or hardware issue. It is noticeable when using Gmaps to navigate, you will see your arrow simply stop when driving down the highway for 5 seconds at a time.
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YES! Install a GPS Test and you can actually see the amount of Satellites seen go to zero. I can sit in the same place for 5 minutes and it will go from 21 to 0 every 10 - 60 seconds with a clear sky. I am wondering if this is a software or hardware issue. It is noticeable when using Gmaps to navigate, you will see your arrow simply stop when driving down the highway for 5 seconds at a time.
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Im sitting at my desk and watching it not get a fix. The location icon in the status bar never goes white, and the GPSTest just sits there not getting a fix. I've tried disabling the low power GPS option in settings with no luck.
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YES! Install a GPS Test and you can actually see the amount of Satellites seen go to zero. I can sit in the same place for 5 minutes and it will go from 21 to 0 every 10 - 60 seconds with a clear sky. I am wondering if this is a software or hardware issue. It is noticeable when using Gmaps to navigate, you will see your arrow simply stop when driving down the highway for 5 seconds at a time.
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Same here I've noticed on my t-mobile version.... Hmm...
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Im sitting at my desk and watching it not get a fix. The location icon in the status bar never goes white, and the GPSTest just sits there not getting a fix. I've tried disabling the low power GPS option in settings with no luck.
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Sometimes indoors GPS has more difficulty. Has it worked there before with other phones?
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Worked with my GPS navigation a bit more... definitely see the GPS lose tracking every few minutes. Turned off the iZat, didn't make a difference. Plugged in a power source, thought it might help a little, but nope, GPS lost every once in a while. Bah, just when I thought I had received a problem-free unit
Any more information on this? As of April 1st, my LG G5 seems to be way off on GPS. I noticed it using Runkeeper. I thought maybe it was a Runkeeper issue, but then used MapMyRun and got the same I looked in history and saw that since getting this phone (traded in my G4 for the G5) I had one successfully tracked run, then it all went haywire. Never had a problem with the G4 - so it can't be signal issues (IMO). And since this phone got it right once... that is strange to me.
To give an idea... I ran about 10 miles and it told me 18. When I looked at the runkeeper map it looked like I was running down side streets, into fields, crazy stuff. Like it never got a real lock on my location.
I'm wondering if I need to return this phone??
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Any more information on this? As of April 1st, my LG G5 seems to be way off on GPS. I noticed it using Runkeeper. I thought maybe it was a Runkeeper issue, but then used MapMyRun and got the same I looked in history and saw that since getting this phone (traded in my G4 for the G5) I had one successfully tracked run, then it all went haywire. Never had a problem with the G4 - so it can't be signal issues (IMO). And since this phone got it right once... that is strange to me.
To give an idea... I ran about 10 miles and it told me 18. When I looked at the runkeeper map it looked like I was running down side streets, into fields, crazy stuff. Like it never got a real lock on my location.
I'm wondering if I need to return this phone??
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I have only used the G5 in the car a few times and it seems to work fine - using google maps, not waze.
I use a couple apps to track biking and they work fine. However, when I use them I use an app called GPS keeper pro to keep the GPS running all the time. It seems to help with apps for fitness. I started using it with the G3 and just kept right on with the G5. You might want to try GPS Keeper for your running apps.
I use GPS only in the location settings. That may help. At least my apps that rely on GPS open much faster with that setting.
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My specific GPS issue was that it would lose lock a minute or so into a perfectly normal navigation lock while using Gmaps. It would relock after several seconds, only to lose lock again. This repeated over and over.
I was using the app GPS Status to monitor this. However, it hasn't surfaced in a few days, so I don't know if there was some rogue app or former setting that was interfering with GPS holding lock. I've hypothesized maybe it was GPS Status itself which was interfering. I uninstalled and reinstalled it, and so far *knock on wood* it hasn't popped up again.
This sounds a bit different from some of the problems listed here. The run tracker not getting a good track might be related to this, if it is never able to consistently keep GPS lock. Try monitoring the GPS satellite lock icon when the app is running. Does it go from lock (white) to not lock (grey)?
Mine is actually grey most of the time but when I'm connected to wifi calling it's constantly white. Weird. This thing needs an update for a few different reasons. Coming from the note 4 I notice differences in the software obviously but somethings seem like they don't quite work right. Example being when I used wifi calling on the note 4 it would grey out the regular signal but on this it's still active with the bars going up and down. I'm pretty sure it should cancel the network out all together but maybe this is just different. I don't know.
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Maybe it's using the wifi connection hotspot to determine your location? So does your GPS really work at all then?
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Maybe it's using the wifi connection hotspot to determine your location? So does your GPS really work at all then?
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Well I do have it set to GPS only in location settings but until I get out and try to use maps I guess I really won't know. It does find me in maps or other weather apps though.
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Well - I got my second LG G5 hoping that would solve the problem. Doesn't seem to be any different
I've tried this so far:
High Accuracy - Was Already Set
Turn off WiFi location
Tried GPS Keeper to keep signal alive
Tried GPS Status Utility - NOTED: Takes a long time to lock and still will start 'searching' for long periods of time.
Tried with no cover on
New phone seems the same I love the LG phone itself, but I can't handle this. I should have returned it for a Samsung. Are there any other tricks I am missing?
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Well - I got my second LG G5 hoping that would solve the problem. Doesn't seem to be any different
I've tried this so far:
High Accuracy - Was Already Set
Turn off WiFi location
Tried GPS Keeper to keep signal alive
Tried GPS Status Utility - NOTED: Takes a long time to lock and still will start 'searching' for long periods of time.
Tried with no cover on
New phone seems the same I love the LG phone itself, but I can't handle this. I should have returned it for a Samsung. Are there any other tricks I am missing?
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Do you perhaps have greenify on? I have a theory that the aggressive doze may be affecting GPS lock duration.
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Do you perhaps have greenify on? I have a theory that the aggressive doze may be affecting GPS lock duration.
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I don't think I have greenify loaded? I searched in Google Play and it only says 'install', so can't be on my phone.
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I don't think I have greenify loaded? I searched in Google Play and it only says 'install', so can't be on my phone.
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Correct, you don't have it installed then. Have you tried disabling iZat? It's the low power GPS addition, at the bottom of the GPS settings page.
Also, just to cover all the bases, you are outdoors when you're searching for GPS, right?
I have a stock T-Mobile G5, I've also noticed inconsistent GPS. Acts as if it's stuck. I'll open Google Maps and it'll show my location from 90 minutes ago. Won't update until I turn on airplane and then off again. Once the radios come back up GPS updates. Hoping for an update to fix this ASAP.
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Correct, you don't have it installed then. Have you tried disabling iZat? It's the low power GPS addition, at the bottom of the GPS settings page.
Also, just to cover all the bases, you are outdoors when you're searching for GPS, right?
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The low power GPS is turned off, yes. When I run the test I am running it right next to my window indoors. I run it on my HTC One (not activated) and my LG G5 (activated - new phone). HTC locks immediately (2-5 seconds) with 14/20 satellites, G5 does not lock for at least 3 minutse with anywhere between 18-26 satellites (I gave up after 3 minutes). I tried turning off/on airplane mode like the previous post - didn't change anything for me.
Even though the GPS doesn't show lock on the LG G5, I can get google maps working. It isn't very accurate, though. It sometimes shows me stuck in a location for about 1-2 miles. It also shows me off the roads, typically.
I found a way to replicate the GPS issue! I was having it behaving really intermittently on my car mount (vertically), and then I decided to tilt it horizontal and suddenly it got a lock! I've verified it by GPS test apps and it's super obvious that in a vertical orientation, the GPS doesn't get a proper lock.
Any of you guys wanna validate this?
I'm having this issue as well, sometimes takes a couple minutes or more to obtain initial lock when I get in my car every morning and start Waze (although it guesstimates my location based on last lock / WiFi), plus then it drops out 2-3 times per drive, which is incredibly frustrating and has caused me to miss turns. I lose lock with WiFi both enabled and disabled during my drive
As a couple people already said, I use the T-Mobile G5. I'm curious if all of us experiencing the problem use the T-Mobile version and it might be a carrier ROM issue. My network and GPS settings are how they were out of the box, although now that I know it exists, I'll try disabling IZat low-power location just to see if there's any improvement.
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I found a way to replicate the GPS issue! I was having it behaving really intermittently on my car mount (vertically), and then I decided to tilt it horizontal and suddenly it got a lock! I've verified it by GPS test apps and it's super obvious that in a vertical orientation, the GPS doesn't get a proper lock.
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My phone is always horizontal in my car dock, with the top of the phone facing left, but I'm still losing GPS lock. Do you use yours horizontally the other way?
I can tilt mine any way I want and it won't lock I ran a test this morning while taking my kids to school. I took out my old HTC One and turned on Runkeeper (running app). Turned Runkeeper on LG G5 (separate Runkeeper account to be sure nothing got screwy). G5 couldn't lock enough to map anything, HTC mapped perfectly to the roads. I then used VZ Navigator (Verizons map system - this was done at Verizon's request). The maps trailed me by about 1/2 to 1/4 mile and showed me about 200 yards off the road. Then - GPS lost. All the while - HTC mapped me out with Runkeeper perfectly mapped to the roads.
Since this is my second LG G5 with GPS issues... I think there is a problem with the phone or maybe the Verizon version of the phone. Sounds like T-Mobile also, though, so could just be some LG software screwing things up.
Either way - I'm probably getting the S7 now. I really like the G5 with the rear fingerprint scanner... but I need a GPS that works out of the box.
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So here's something to try to deal with the anemic GPS on the Raphael, and any other post-WM5 with slow GPS locking.
This app runs after install, and after soft-reset, and immediately starts up the GPS hardware through the WM5+ GPS API. It waits 5 minutes for a GPS lock, or it quits. A pop-up will tell you whether GPS lock was established or timed out before it quits.
The GPS polling is limited to every 5 seconds to try to conserve some CPU cycles. Currently does not use AGPS, but you can turn it on/off at your registry leisure.
This attempts to reduce the Time-To-First-Fix (TTFF) during which the GPS ephemeris almanac is slowly built up. This can take up to 12.5 minutes for a non-QuickGPS/AGPS accelerated device from a cold-start. By kick-starting immediately after soft-reset, subsequent GPS locks for the next ~6 days (without updating QuickGPS) should be much quicker.
Takes 23K of disk, and 1K of ram.
updates:
1.0.1.1: GPS power kept on until lock or timeout using CABuddy's GPS code framework; states lock time in seconds
1.0.0.5: added much belated icon to app and top-bar
1.0.0.4: switched from pop-up window to wifi notify-style pop-up (457)
1.0.0.3: fix multi-threading issues that caused popup notifications to fail
1.0.0.2: makes sure the app is disconnected from the GPS before the app exits
Will get my raphael tomorrow (O2 Serra) and have heard of and been concerned at the various GPS issues - could you explain this app a bit more ?
Many thanks
so compared to launching say GPS test every morning this would save battery life since its not constantly trying to lock? Sounds like a better alternative...
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Will get my raphael tomorrow (O2 Serra) and have heard of and been concerned at the various GPS issues - could you explain this app a bit more ?
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Raphael, or just the FUZE, has much weaker GPS reception compared to my Kaiser, and will take a lot longer to lock to the GPS signal. FusionGPSFix acts like a GPS app and basically does an automatic cold-start of the GPS after soft-reset which many people have been doing manually.
When the GPS data from the WM5+ GPSAPI says the quality of the GPS signal is GPS or DGPS, then that's when all other GPS apps will get an instant lock.
So FusionGPSFix then quits out, and that's it until next soft-reset, or manual run.
norkoastal: yes, but I'm not sure how long of a period before it needs a kick again. Once I find a pattern, I may try to schedule a run every few hours, or every few hours after you turn on the device.
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Updated version posted which makes sure the connection to the GPS is shut off before the app exits. I had a strange issue of battery drain that I couldn't trace to a dangling process otherwise today.
Verified GPS operation and shutoff with a Kaiser which has the useful GPS blinky lights, and with HomeScreen PlusPlus which shows battery drain levels.
Works great with CamerAware Buddy and Navizon.
looks like a great idea, I wonder how it works in practice
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looks like a great idea, I wonder how it works in practice
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How's it working for you? So far now I'm maintaining quick locks that take only a few seconds.
I do activesync multiple times a day so QuickGPS updates very often also.
any plans on making a icon for the app? I was thinkink I could map it to my ptt button or launch from my favored programs list. thanks
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any plans on making a icon for the app? I was thinkink I could map it to my ptt button or launch from my favored programs list. thanks
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I'll try a rusty hand at it for the next update.
Great app.
I just had the problem wit batterydraining.
The last two days I have been happy if my phone could do 6 hours.
I have notised that the program gives a pop-up telling weather or not I has gotten a gps fix... - As I have my phone restarting automatic about 3am, I would like to know if the program disconnect from the gps before this popup shows, so my phone doesnt drain during the night. ;-)
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I just had the problem wit batterydraining.
The last two days I have been happy if my phone could do 6 hours.
I have notised that the program gives a pop-up telling weather or not I has gotten a gps fix... - As I have my phone restarting automatic about 3am, I would like to know if the program disconnect from the gps before this popup shows, so my phone doesnt drain during the night. ;-)
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I've had my phone unplugged overnight and didn't notice any abnormal battery drain with the latest 1.0.0.2 version (90% -> 70% batt).
It doesn't disconnect from the GPS until the pop-up, so I'll add something smarter to either keep it running for the full 5 minutes even if you power-off the device, or suspend it when your device does power off.
sounds like a good app. will give it a try on my touch pro.
sometimes i have a long TTFF so will try this.
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How's it working for you? So far now I'm maintaining quick locks that take only a few seconds.
I do activesync multiple times a day so QuickGPS updates very often also.
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I am not sure yet.
I also update quickGPS very often.
Also I read people here talk about a pop-up... I never got any pop-up.
Thanks a bunch.
Just today i figured out it had to to with activating The GPS beforehand.
And then Dave points me to this.
I'll be doing loads of resets to check this baby and the difference it makes.
Thanks again Looks like a life saver.
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Also I read people here talk about a pop-up... I never got any pop-up.
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There's supposed to be one within 5 minutes telling you whether GPS lock established or timed out.
never seen one
(and yes the shortcut IS in my startup folder)
version 1.0.0.3
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never seen one
(and yes the shortcut IS in my startup folder)
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Hey, so found some multi-threaded synchronization errors that caused the pop-up dialogs to fail.
New fixed version posted. Thanks for the pointing this out! Still working on a fancy icon, and I'll probably migrate the pop-up to use the native Notification framework instead.
Thanks - but to be honest I hate the pop-up...
I would prefer some kind of system notification that doesn't get in the way - but I suspect it would make the program larger...
So far I haven't noticed a difference. What is the correct way to use? Make sure to make a soft-reset in the open air?
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Thanks - but to be honest I hate the pop-up...
I would prefer some kind of system notification that doesn't get in the way - but I suspect it would make the program larger...
So far I haven't noticed a difference. What is the correct way to use? Make sure to make a soft-reset in the open air?
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Almost done with the Today screen pop-up that works like alarms and reminders.
The usage is basically just use your device as normal, and soft-resets will try to kick-start GPS settings. Otherwise, run the shortcut, or the app, directly if you don't want to soft-reset. I'm finishing up an icon so the whole thing can be installed like a normal app to make this look nicer.
That would be great.
Waiting for it.
hey im wondering if this would work for us or is there some porting needed and is this somthing that would help gps and if im in the wrong section please move.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
Very interesting post indeed.
From his findings, I'm also wondering if we have Auto Rotate Screen (the accelerometers) turned off, if that hinders the ability for our GPS to accurately detect location and movement. He suggested that it goes into low-power mode when it isn't detecting movement via the sensors, but didn't say what happens if the sensors are turned off.
...I'm going to have to test this out tomorrow.
Are people still having issues with GPS on the fascinate? Since we more or less had the issue fixed I've had as good or better GPS performance than on my other smartphones.
Da_G is a good buddy of mine, trust me, if anyone knows wtf they are talking about, it would be him....
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Very interesting post indeed.
From his findings, I'm also wondering if we have Auto Rotate Screen (the accelerometers) turned off, if that hinders the ability for our GPS to accurately detect location and movement. He suggested that it goes into low-power mode when it isn't detecting movement via the sensors, but didn't say what happens if the sensors are turned off.
...I'm going to have to test this out tomorrow.
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im just wondering if this is safe to flash to our phones or does it need to be ported to fascinate
yep still having issues with gps...sometimes doesn't lock. sometimes takes forever. sometimes...omgsh...it actually locks!
not reliable.
I applied the d101 gps fix to eb01 and my gps locks in around 20sec. Auto rotate or not my gosh never locked on eb01 without the d101 fix.
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Just tested my gps a little. Mine is locking within 5 meters in a brick building with auto rotation on or off. Not in a car currently but I took a little jog and it seemed to follow my direction and location very accurately in both.
So I guess my GPS is pretty good.
Regardless... I wanted to say thanks for reposting that because it was a really interesting read!
It should just work, even though EB01 stock should just work too.
Just don't flash the AT&T-specific version...
The Fascinate doesn't seem to have the same layout concerning the gps jupiter files (I don't see them anywhere, at first glance). Either I am missing something or it's a completely different setup.
There are some settings in his /data/gps/secgps.conf (just a text configuration file) that are different than the stock fascinate file. These might be worth looking into to see if they help improve the signal without using his modified binary. You don't need to flash the file using CWM, just use adb to push a modified file (or root explorer and edit it on the phone itself).
Since this is a CDMA phone, I don't know how many people this would affect, but here is a general Android GPS tip for those who don't live in North America:
In /system/etc/gps.conf, change the address to the server that corresponds to your country:
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NTP_SERVER=[COLOR="Red"]north-america[/COLOR].pool.ntp.org
I usually can't get an accurate lock or any lock at all unless I reboot with gps already enabled. Then I will get a good lock instantly... If I reboot the phone with gps off then I will get no signal/lock again.
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Let me share my experience with GPS on EB01, it's GREAT, you just have to turn on GPS "correctly."
If I turn on GPS using the Notification switch, GPS takes FOREVER to lock, if it even does so. Gone several minutes with no lock.
Now here's the thing, if you turn on GPS in the Settings > Location settings, I always get super fast, under 5 second GPS locks. ALWAYS. I've tried this out repeatedly over several days, and it really makes a difference. Once you turn on GPS using Settings, you can leave your phone on, reboot, whatever, and GPS will still be responsive. If you turn it off, wait a while and use the Notification switch to turn on GPS and you're trying to get a cold lock, it'll be slow again, just be sure to use the Setting option and it'll be back to being responsive.
That's my experience.
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Let me share my experience with GPS on EB01, it's GREAT, you just have to turn on GPS "correctly."
If I turn on GPS using the Notification switch, GPS takes FOREVER to lock, if it even does so. Gone several minutes with no lock.
Now here's the thing, if you turn on GPS in the Settings > Location settings, I always get super fast, under 5 second GPS locks. ALWAYS. I've tried this out repeatedly over several days, and it really makes a difference. Once you turn on GPS using Settings, you can leave your phone on, reboot, whatever, and GPS will still be responsive. If you turn it off, wait a while and use the Notification switch to turn on GPS and you're trying to get a cold lock, it'll be slow again, just be sure to use the Setting option and it'll be back to being responsive.
That's my experience.
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Nice observation...just worked for me too!!
By golly... He's right, although it took me about twenty seconds to lock.
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Hmm... I remember this from a different android device I have. The stock power control widget for wifi would take 45 seconds longer for the network to connect then if I would go to the wifi menu and turn it on myself. I found out that there were two methods for turning on the wifi programmatically, and that some widgets used one method and the other widgets used the other.
If I remember right, the fast method changed the setting by calling the wifi menu and emulating the menu press, while the slow method attempted to power on the wifi directly.
$10 says that if you started decompiling, you'd find a similar situation here.
I've had this issue for a while now, but I'm wondering if it's just me or if this is something common.
Every once in a while, my Player (5.0 US) will show the GPS trying to acquire a signal icon, but it won't go to lock. I've been in places where I have good GPS signal normally, and it will stay that way for hours.
To add at my confusion, it sometimes comes up even if the GPS is turned off. In these cases, I've turned on a GPS reporting tool, and it can see that I've got a good connection with several satellites. I turn the GPS officially on, and it gets the lock (thanks to the program). Close the program and the GPS goes dormant again.
The only thing I can remotely think of is Google location services trying to pin point where my wifi is, but that doesn't explain why it can't get a lock.
Anyone else seen this or know what it is?
Hi there,
I have exactly the same problem as you. GPS is turned off but its symbol is flashing in the notification bar. I noticed this problem tomorrow morning wondering why my battery is low although I charged it yesterday afternoon.
Are you using gingerbread?
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, stock setup right now
Anyone try app recently? I believe there was an update. If you use watch only, will it give you any audio and or visual clues to pace? Or does it just show you your distance.
What stats does it show afterwards? In NY. Way too cold for me to try outside.
Thanks
Update to Nike+
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Anyone try app recently? I believe there was an update. If you use watch only, will it give you any audio and or visual clues to pace? Or does it just show you your distance.
What stats does it show afterwards? In NY. Way too cold for me to try outside.
Thanks
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I was wondering what you noticed that gave you the impression the app had received an update? I have not noticed any audio cues while running. The biggest issue I have with Nike+ is that the GPS doesn't seem to start tracking until a half mile into each run. This happens regardless of how long I stand around in clear view of the sky waiting for a fix on my location.
I am curious how the Nike+ app is managed. It doesn't show up in the gear manager app on my phone, and there doesn't appear to be any means of managing the app (checking for updates etc.) from the Gear S itself. Any thoughts or feedback would be appreciated. This is such a niche device, I can't see myself using it for anything other than running and I'm starting to think that I should have returned it and waited for another 6 models to come out. Hope Samsung can fix the GPS problems with a firmware update.
There was an update on the phone end, which I thought would communicate with the gear (in update info it mentioned gear s update).
When you run, do you have your gear network set to "always on" and Bluetooth off prior to run.? If gear network on auto, won't start independent logging (ie will use phone gps) for 1-2 minutes plus the delay to lock on
Update- went for a run today with Nike app. Before I left house I turned off bt on note 4-so phone and watch disconnected. Next I turned gear net on always and turned gps on.
Waited a few minutes before leaving house. Turned on Nike app and ran. The app did audibly (through bt earbuds) tell me to start job, so I'm shocked it doesn't update you audibly throughout run like phone app does. Disappointing but not huge.
When I would look at watch I'd see milage. It was accurate but not updated in real time. For instance I'd look down and it would say 1.5 miles, the 5 second later it would update and say 2.1 miles. It was sunny and I could see milage fine, but other data scrolled at bottom in red and hardish to read. I am unsure if it was pace, but I think one of the parameters was time/mile - during my run this was WAY OFF (unless I misread it) - after run my pace listed was accurate... So have to recheck this.
I did not have any issues with app starting tracking 5 minutes later.
Battery on 40 minute run went down 30%. I had to be reachable by text so I had gear network always on.... Wondering if I can use Nike app with just gps on, and gear net off (for half and full marathons - otherwise the battery won't last!).
The one thing that is necessary (i think) is to disconnect the gear from the phone before run, or else the gear will use your phone gps to show no movement until it transfers over to watch (which takes a few minutes).
Will try health app. Wishing for audible alerts or clearer and accurate pace stats.
Nike app disappointing also battery life
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Update- went for a run today with Nike app. Before I left house I turned off bt on note 4-so phone and watch disconnected. Next I turned gear net on always and turned gps on.
Waited a few minutes before leaving house. Turned on Nike app and ran. The app did audibly (through bt earbuds) tell me to start job, so I'm shocked it doesn't update you audibly throughout run like phone app does. Disappointing but not huge.
When I would look at watch I'd see milage. It was accurate but not updated in real time. For instance I'd look down and it would say 1.5 miles, the 5 second later it would update and say 2.1 miles. It was sunny and I could see milage fine, but other data scrolled at bottom in red and hardish to read.
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I just got this watch yesterday. Tried running with it today. Didn't do anything special, not even check which background app's were running. Used the Nike app. Very disappointing... I really need to see the pace but the only thing I could read on the display were the large distance numerals, no alerts. I also did some playing around making and receiving voice calls, and having someone at home with my phone use the AT&T Mobile Locate to find where I was. Other than the Nike app. all worked great, except my 8 mile, 1:15:25 run took the battery from near 100% to 18%. I hope I can improve this. My main reason for getting this was to combine the function of a GPS watch with a phone for marathons and half marathons so I could call/find people after the race (especially at big events like next Boston). I need to get at least 5 hours battery since I usually finish 3:40 to 3:50.
I did have the HR recording on (didn't see a way to cancel it in Nike), this may have added battery drain. Also the pedometer function was evidently running since the display came up a few times, as noted above I didn't cancel running app's. I looked at Power Saver mode, but it appears the GPS and 3G may not function in that mode.
I'm going to try S-Health because it has a pace display, and I don't need Facebook cheers (really?) or music. Hopefully it is less of a battery hog.
It was cold out today, but not extreme (30F, 21F windchill) which may have had an effect.
I have 14 days (12 left) to return with re-stocking fee to ATT, so will kick the tires hard. Any advice will be appreciated. I guess I could always wear my Garmin FR220 on one arm and this on the other, and just use it as a phone/after-race navigator/contactor. Still better tha carrying my Note 3 in an armband (they actually don't make one stock to fit it), or risk bouncing it around in a sweaty fanny pack.
Bottom line, my opinion of the Nike app is "not good".
Try it with gear net off but gps on. After race can turn gear net on and make the call. Yeah I was in Baltimore this year and walked around freezing looking for others for too long.
Also agree. The s health may prove better for pace (most important) can swipe to side to see it. Wish it had audio alerts but I can live with looking down at wrist here and there.
another update:ran with shealth today....again 30+mins and again 20% battery gone...not good!
had gear net OFF and gps ON (naturally)- I am now going to try
a) removing motion that turns on watch when i swing hand up (although I like this to quick glance while running and every time i did it the screen did go from off to on...so not thinking this will help)- remote possibility screen is on for most of run (dont think so).
b) need to figure out how to turn off the unwanted HR sensor...so useless and i think is killing battery!!!
c) turn brightness down lower.
the pace on shealth was just as useless as nike app as its INSTANT while gps is pulsatile....still no SPLIT paces or audio paces...thats what i want
I went for 3 hour walk/run with GPS and gear network both on and the battery was at 30% when I got home. Not bad!
Does anyone else have issues with their unit (I have the T-Mobile version) mistakenly showing their location as someplace they were HOURS earlier? My maps shows the location where I currently am, but then will occasionally report my location incorrectly as where I was earlier that day, which affects my weather and traffic reporting. Any thoughts?
Do you have high accuracy enabled?
I do have high accuracy enabled. Which the phone doesn't seem to understand the definition of.
If it is showing properly when you open maps but not in other apps, then it isn't the GPS that's the issue. Those apps aren't updating properly.
Mine is off by about 20 ft or so ... no biggie.
One thought though ... do you have background data blocked for the map app?
Background data enabled. I'll use the phone to navigate from work to school. The map shows me at school. Weather and traffic based around campus. Then, maybe an hour later, I look at my phone and it gives me the weather for my office, not school. I open google maps, it looks like I'm back at work, but I'm not.
I have had this happen several times. I open a gps Waze and Google maps, for a little while at work then minmize. A few hours later I will use the gps again at a different location and the gps will flip back an forth from the previous location, this will occur 30 min away or in another state.
I have tried to just shutdown the app and restart but still occurs. My only way to clear this has been to reboot the phone. This happen on both Waze and Google maps.
I found turning location off and back on works for me, but this shouldn't happen
Joe Smithereens said:
Does anyone else have issues with their unit (I have the T-Mobile version) mistakenly showing their location as someplace they were HOURS earlier? My maps shows the location where I currently am, but then will occasionally report my location incorrectly as where I was earlier that day, which affects my weather and traffic reporting. Any thoughts?
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I've had this issue several times. With my G6 and V30. It happens when I'm using a GPS heavy app and then go inside where a good GPS signal cannot be found or where I'm on WiFi. Oddly. I feel like it happens more if that iZat crap is active. Happens a lot with PoGo.
Also get heavy GPS drifting when in High Accuracy Mode. GPS on LG devices seems to work best in Device Only Mode.
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This is driving me mad. I had to switch phone due to this issue on Galaxy S7 and now it happens on V30.
Took a factory reset for mine to work again. Was fine for the entire time I've had the phone, then out of the blue, just stopped working.
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This is driving me mad. I had to switch phone due to this issue on Galaxy S7 and now it happens on V30.
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Chiming in with "other phones have wonky GPS too": My Moto X Pure has had a couple instances where position appeared to be randomly jumping around, up to several hundred feet away with varying azimuth. Made for " fun" navigation in heavy traffic in unfamiliar cities.
But don't worry, autonomous vehicles will work without a problem. (Yeahhhhh....right....)
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Autonomous vehicles are using a wide array of sensors to work, combine with deep learning, big data, etc. The GPS used in phones is not the same chip as the one used in a dedicated GPS device, even something as a sports watch as a much more precise GPS, optimised antenna, dedicated processor and optimised OS. I’ve been trying to use phones to track my runs for years and it always jumped around a bit. In a car, depending on the placement (direct view of the sky, for instance vs. blocked by the ceiling), on the weather, on the insulation of the car even, you can have issue with jumping signal. You can try to place the phone in a spot where the antenna has a view of the sky and it might be less of a problem.
I have noticed that the issue is with both Pokemon Go and Google maps. It is really frustrating, and sometimes nothing seems to help. On another site, they recommended installing GPs Status and Toolbox from Google play store. I will try that. If that does not help, the site said that the issue is with the GPS antenna.