A5 ’17 USB OTG: a little research - Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Guides, News, & D

One of the things I’m really amazed by with the modern PDAs is the USB OTG. So just as I found out that my Galaxy has it, I got myself an adapter (for less than $3) and tested it with several devices. Here’re my results:
USB flash drives: every single one I tried worked perfectly except a 1 GB drive of unknown vendor, which wasn't even recognized by the Galaxy, works okay with PCs thought.
External HDDs: the Toshiba 500 GB USB 3.0 drive wasn't recognized and didn't show any signs of life. Surprisingly, a 320 GB SATA WD Blue in a USB bay was detected and spinned up, but the Galaxy didn't recognize the file system and asked if I want to format it. I didn't, since the disk had some data I needed, but there's definitely a potential.
Input devices: all the mice and keyboards I tried worked as they should, both wired and wireless, which was expected. Which wasn't, is that DualShock3 controller from my PS3 was immediately recognized too without any additional drivers or software, it even let me control the menus. Sadly, that wasn't the case with my Logitech Freedom 2.4 wireless joystick. I guess the power wasn't enough.
Output​ devices: Sennheiser wired USB headset (basically, the USB sound adapter with the headset attached) worked as it should. HP LaserJet P1102 printer didn't work even with USB printing service installed.
Overally, I got much more then I dreamed of, especially since I heard that the OTG is very poor on a modern devices. DualShock3 success is especially cool.

This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?

W00fer said:
This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.

Agent_B-7 said:
The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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Very interesting. A different pinout for OTG. Yeah I thought it was the combo that shoud have worked.
The little adapter comes with the device is said to be charge and sync. Because when connected to my PC it works. for data transfer.

http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/usb_cables/KS-is-KS-297-Perehodnik-USB-AF-USB-C-M-OTG_279425.html
Here’s the one I got. The site is in Russian, but the pictures are self-explanatory.

I have an OTG now from Aliexpress. It works for my A3 2017. 90 degree angle connector.
Now onto an USB-C to HDMI. The official Samsung EE-HG950 does not work.

Agent_B-7 said:
The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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So if i understand correctly the little "micro usb connector" that comes with the A5 2017 won't work for anything other than charging? I tried using it with a regular otg cable and it doesn't detect any flash drive, not even a ps3 controller, i don't even get the notification that a usb is plugged in.
But whats weird is if i use a male to male usb cable and connect to to a pc it works just fine. Any idea whats causing this?

Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.

shrekpido21 said:
Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
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The adapter from the box is just for charging and data transfer to compuer. If you want to use your flasdisk you can buy a new usb otg for type c slot.

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[Q] Archos 70 & USB support

Hello I got a USB gender change: A-Female to A-Female so that i could connect a self powered USB Hub to my Archos.
So far i have connected a self power Hard Disk directly into my Archos 70.
Didn't pick it up.
A mouse in the USB Hub.
Didn't pick it up.
A pen drive directly.
Didn't pick it up.
Is the Archos 70 locked down or does the USB Micro B connector they have on the Archos 70 work different?
I thought USB was a universal connector!
... one thing you have to realize is the device needs drivers to work those devices. you just cannot flip flop the connector and expect everything to work. tipically unless the device has a INPUT port which is a standard usb port not a micro or mini 5 or an old 1.1 usb connector it wont work.
Alot of those hongkong micro a to b converters are rubbish.
The nokia has been reported to work.
You need a USB "HOST" Cable, it contains a chip that puts your devices on "master" mode.
The Nokia and Archos one work, for the others don't expect them to work at all if they do not mention to be USB "HOST" cables !
BTW, the feedback is not very good, seems that it can deliver only 200mA, so if you want to plug an external disk drive, make sure you have a power supply on it before
Also some USB keys need more than 200mA so they won't mount at all :/
I found this: http://www.kjell.com/content/templa...9&path=97000000,119000000,149500000,151500000
Translation: Used by for example mobile phones with USB host (it's own built in USB controller).
Is the USB "HOST" Cable the same as this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
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I found this: http://www.kjell.com/content/templa...9&path=97000000,119000000,149500000,151500000
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That cable doesn't look correct.
[correction - that cable at kjell looks correct for hooking two USB On-The-Go devices together. So if you wanted to hook your Archos to another Archos or to a blackberry.]
Look for a micro usb Nokia n810 host cable. Or "Micro USB Host OTG". They seem widely available in the us on eBay
Usually they have the micro USB male connector and a full size female connector on the other. Be careful because some are mini USB, you want micro USB
Look on the us eBay for a picture.
Here is a pretty good picture also - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51045 several people have confirmed this one works.
Yeah, the connector is obviously wrong on that one. I was mostly curios about whether this USB HOST cable was the same as an OTG.
That's the only cable of OTG type that I've seen in any retail store in Sweden (although I haven't been looking for it until now), so I was thinking of maybe getting it in the store and then get an adapter for the connector. But since there's a special pinning on these cables (as I understand from the Wikipedia article) maybe that doesn't work?
I'll probably go for the Nokia cable anyway, just to be sure, should be able to find it in a retail store somewhere...
fzelle said:
Alot of those hongkong micro a to b converters are rubbish.
The nokia has been reported to work.
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the nokia one doesn't work for me
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250770684805#ht_3877wt_798
by Seller info
business2828 ( 5107)
$5 now, I paid $8 (figures)
this works fine on my 32IT. I can use my microSD adapter, camera, powered hard drive, multi-card reader with SD cards and USB mouse. Other people have said they can't get USB host to work at all, even with this cable, but it works for me.
USB mouse works ok.
But it`s not enought power for 3G USB dongles.... Печалька.
Nokia ones works ok
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/genuine-nokia-ca-157-micro-usb-otg-to-usb-data-cable-14cm-length-51045

Accessories for Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Mirco USB 3.0 Port

Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Comes with following accessories:
USB Wall Charger
Micro USB 3.0 Cable
S-Pen
The data charge port is the same as galaxy note 3 and galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition.
So how can we take full advantage of Mirco USB 3.0 Port.
The uppermost idea in my mind is your can get an USB 3.0 OTG cable for it. Then you can use a USB mouse or wireless mouse or read your u disk.
What else accessories come to your mind? Add them here and share with us.
You can use micro USB cables with the USB 3 slot on the NotePro.... cross compatible!!!
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came here to say the Microsoft Surface Pro 2 Pens do work with the Note Tablets, especially the eraser on the other end. I also own a micro usb 3 otg cable and can confirm it works with cameras, flash drives, hard drives, mice, keyboards, and ethernet adapters
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
Krazyzzz said:
This Micro USB 3.0 OTG On-The-Go Cable woks with flash drives, hard drives, mice.
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Anyone know about the ethernet adapter? Allows for lan cables (rj45) on the note...
Charlie
Update:...i t seems that any ethernet adapter will work. I literally picked one from amazon...works fine.
Update2: The otg cable mentioned above works beautifully
I ordered this cable from Amazon. Will report back if it works ok:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G10XQCC/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
callif said:
Anyone know about the ethernet adapter? Allows for lan cables (rj45) on the note...
Charlie
Update:...i t seems that any ethernet adapter will work. I literally picked one from amazon...works fine.
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Nice, good to know I kind of want to get the one Samsung is making with two usb ports on it but I may just get any that will work.
FateZero said:
Nice, good to know I kind of want to get the one Samsung is making with two usb ports on it but I may just get any that will work.
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I have something similar to the proposed samsung port unit (not available yet)...all 3 usb3 ports work; the rj45 port does not. If I plug the lan cable into one of the 3 usb ports, it works fine.
I wonder how many levels of attachments usb3 can handle. Is it different for a tablet than a pc/mac?
callif said:
Anyone know about the ethernet adapter? Allows for lan cables (rj45) on the note...
Charlie
Update:...i t seems that any ethernet adapter will work. I literally picked one from amazon...works fine.
Update2: The otg cable mentioned above works beautifully
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USB to ethernet adapter works? Really? Are you sure?
aaa111sss said:
USB to ethernet adapter works? Really? Are you sure?
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It works quite well. You will get an indication that ethernet is connected. Haven't done a comparison between it and wifi, but, yes it another option
charlie
Yes
I bought micro usb3 otg cable mentioned above and usb to ethernet adapter (in my case from apple store). Works just fine. Just make sure you are not using usb3 to ethernet adapter. It probably will not be supported . ( I was trying 'J5 create' usb 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapter - no success)
Kosta
Krazyzzz said:
How can a USB to ethernet adapter work with NotePro 12.2? Did you just plug the usb end of USB to ethernet adapter into the USB port of OTG Cable?
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krojdest said:
I bought micro usb3 otg cable mentioned above and usb to ethernet adapter (in my case from apple store). Works just fine. Just make sure you are not using usb3 to ethernet adapter. It probably will not be supported . ( I was trying 'J5 create' usb 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapter - no success)
Kosta
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Actually, the usb3 to ethernet adapter DOES work...at least for me. It is what I'm using now. Can also be used as part of a 3 port unpowered hub
charlie
I did a speed test Wifi vs 100 Meg Ethernet.
Wifi:
100 Meg Ethernet:
I have yet to find a USB3->GigE that works with this tab. My latest attempt was below. It works fine as a USB 3 hub, but the Ethernet port is not supported on the P900. It does work on my Surface Pro so I may keep it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EHDNAOE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
callif said:
It works quite well. You will get an indication that ethernet is connected. Haven't done a comparison between it and wifi, but, yes it another option
charlie
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Yeah, it's a good option. Thanks for sharing this useful information with us.
Does a 3G Dongle work with the tab

does mate 10 pro support Ethernet?

hello guys. can i connect a Ethernet LAN to mate 10 pro by USB c to Ethernet adapter?
does it support wire internet?
Yes you can. You need something similar to this :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZZ6NW5E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
numbnutsuk said:
Yes you can. You need something similar to this :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZZ6NW5E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Funny, I have the Anker one, but with a USB-B port. Connected in a USB-C hub, that provides HDMI out, USB-C to charge and USB-B, in which I plugged this. While the lights flicker, nothing works. I tried plugging a USB memory stick, won't read it (my Anker adapter has USB 3.0 and gigabit ethernet). But, if I plug the key directly in the USB-B port of the USB-C hub, no problem. So somehow, that one does not work for me. Anyone else been able to get an adapter to work? At best, I want something like the Dell WD15. It's an overkill, but any alternative providing ethernet, hdmi, usb-b and a mean to charge like usb-c. A mix of video ports is even better, but not required.

USB-C capabilities?? USBpens, HDD, HDMI etc??

Anyone who knows the capabilities of the USB-C port?? Is it possible to use USBpens, external harddrives, card-reader etc? And how about USB-C to HDMI, a seller in a store told me he did it with his m5... But I have my doubts to whether that was "salesmens talk"...
Don't have an M5 yet (tomorrow), but the Mate SE (micro usb) port can be used for many things people are not aware of. For many things all you need is an OTG cable (usb-c or micro to usb). I've plugged in usb thumb drives and even a wireless keyboard and mouse using a logitech unifying receiver (first set usb connection to midi).
A quick search turned this usb-c to hdmi adapter on amazon, looks like there are many different ones available. Have never tried this with any of my android devices, but if they make these adapters, well it certainly gives one hope that it *might* work, it certainly must in some circumstances.
https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Supporting-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00X4S5C7G
I have a HDMI adapter I use for the Nintendo Switch (which also should work with Samsung devices) and that one doesn't work with my M5 8.4.
I also have a USB-C OTG adapter and a USB memory stick works, but I haven't yried anything else.
It doesn't appear that the M5 is capable of hdmi output. Mhl and slimport seem to be absent.
I used a USB c combo dongle , it had USB A female and sd card slot.
On holiday I used it to copy my gopro videos to ssd. It wasn't pushing usb 3 speeds and the system acts a little weird when it is plugged in - movies that are downloading on amazon or Google play would go to the ssd or sdcard plugged in from otg, even though I have an sdcard in the external asd slot
Doesn't seem to work as USB DAC with Hugo using UAPP
uzi2 said:
Doesn't seem to work as USB DAC with Hugo using UAPP
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Weird, I've tried it with Hugo 2 / UAPP playing hi-res flac and it seems to work fine. I set it in bit perfect mode and the bit rate indicator LED showed the correct bitrate. I did have to try a couple of unplug/replug to get the tablet to do some permission requests. It also worked with Youtube and the default Android audio system - though I did have to stop UAPP kicking in.
USB C can power external hard drive, and ive got one of those USB to 2.5in adapters that powers a 1tb toshiba laptop drive and that's ok too, the tablet also give me the option to reverse charge, so i presume it is capable of high amp output on the port, maybe up to 1A or more
I've tried an USB type-c to hdmi cable and it doesn't work , the same cable works on a P20 Pro.
Yeah the USB port isn't working correctly. It's supposed to be USB 3.0, but i am copying at 18MB/s (onto an SD card capable of 100MB/s)
Confirmed with Huawei it's USB 2.0
Seriously dissapointed, and I know it sounds silly but this device isn't useful without USB 3.0, I have an action camera and hence I copy video to internal SD card. What use is a device if you can't input/output to it fast enough.
email:
"Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
The USB specification on the M5 tablet are:
HDM-Out does not work. I tried adding the necessary lines to the build.prop file as well with no success. Seems the hardware physically does not support MHL. We're stuck with MirrorShare which works pretty well.
Huawei M5 HDMI CABLE not supported
vibecatalin said:
I've tried an USB type-c to hdmi cable and it doesn't work , the same cable works on a P20 Pro.
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Have same experience. Really regret buying high end Huawei M5 and then realised I could not use it with HDMI cable. Wireless projection is really lag!
For folks with slow USB data issues, it mat be that you need a powered hub for it to work optimally. I've had this issue with a few Android devices over the years.

Otg + charging

Does out tablet support otg and charging at the same time?
Tried by using hootoo ht-u001 type c adapter and a sd card, otg is disabled once the charger is plugged in.
SurfinSpirit said:
Tried by using hootoo ht-u001 type c adapter and a sd card, otg is disabled once the charger is plugged in.
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Do you have a native firmware MIUI?
You can experiment, first connect the charging going to the hub, and then the periphery of the USB flash drive or keyboard and mouse..
and then vice versa, first the periphery and then the power to the hub
on my tablet with micro us it mattered... Can you try different variants
I guess you will need something like the one in the link below that supports USB Power Delivery.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB...469.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3b144c4dDoroZN
It is mainly for Macbooks but it is compatible (according to the sellers) with most Smartphones and Tablets that use USB Type-C.
I just ordered one for a project so I'll know in several weeks (when it arrives from China) if it works with the Mi Pad 4.
Update: I've just checked the hub you used and it is also with USB Power Delivery... oh well let's see if I'll get lucky or...
anyone have success with this? i have a few adapters and hubs that work with everything else but not the pad 4.

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