I am confused about which of these 2 phones to buy can someone please help me and what about future updates in both these phones ?
Go for the mi A1, dual cameras and stock Android with 2 years of updates. It's one of the best midrangers of the year. However, if you can wait, then wait for the redmi note 5. It could come with a SD 660.
Mi A1 is more expensive but clearly superior
Mi A1 has better cameras.
Note 4 has better bettery life.
MIUI vs Stock Android is irrelevant here I think, since both has already had tons of development threads.
You just can just flash whichever ROM you like, whether it's AOSP-based or MIUI-based.
Or just wait for the Note 5, it *might* come with a 630 or even 660. But I predict it would come with a 630 (or even 625 again), since the Mi Note 3 already has the 660.
I will go for redmi note 4, which i am currently using it as a backup.
If you're into tinkering and etc stuffs go for Mido, otherwise mi A1.
godspeed320 said:
I am confused about which of these 2 phones to buy can someone please help me and what about future updates in both these phones ?
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Look, it's simple like if you want better camera and you can manage battery good for mia1. And if you want better battery and avg camera (actually works fine with HDR+) and great development go for rn4.
godspeed320 said:
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If you need custom roms rn4 is better than mi a1 and the stock rom for mi a1 is quite bad:good:
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Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
Redmi note 3 pro was better, you will get twice update a week with global dev rom.
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Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
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For Cam one plus 2 i think ....
oneplus 2 has no sd card option and costs 2 times more then redmi note 3 pro... so get a redmi note 3 pro.
160€ compared to 319€ for op2... get a redmi...
i come from an oneplus x and i am totally happy. only thing i miss is oled display
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Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
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It depends on what you're looking for.
If for good camera, then probably one+2,if for good battery life then redmi.
There are many other thing s you have to consider, like type of display, system, sdcard slot etc. So it's really up to your personal preference.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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oneplus 2 has no sd card option and costs 2 times more then redmi note 3 pro... so get a redmi note 3 pro.
160€ compared to 319€ for op2... get a redmi...
i come from an oneplus x and i am totally happy. only thing i miss is oled display
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Am getting them for roughly the same price.Does this change things?
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Am getting them for roughly the same price.Does this change things?
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nope not for me because i have a 128 gb sd card so the op2 died for me directly as choice. XD
but if you care about gaming etc, get a op2.
i use my phone for internet and media stuff, so i dont need a good gpu. i am actually realy surprised abeit my redmi note 3 pro. if you want a good costum rom support, get one with the snapdragon (qualcom) processor.
unlock bootloader with official tool like op... worked all like charm, i am happy camera is also fine. i mean... i dont expect an dlsr but camera is pretty fine for a phone.
if your phone goes broken, you have the same ****ty china support by both sides.
additional, miui is kind of nice and you get one dev update per week.
by op you can wait much longer.
but i use aicp rom, so also no matter for me.
so all together: you get a good device if you want updates and sd cards.
if you prefer more a better camera and more performance, get a op2.
but honestly... i dont pay much attention on performance but i am a power user and my xiaomi is working like charm in pro edition with 3gb ram.
the OP2 has less performance !
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the OP2 has less performance !
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How? The 810 soc is very powerful and though it had it's share of overheating, looks like guys on the OP2 forums fixed that with a ton of kernel tweaks. i'm seeing antutu scores of between 90 - 103 on their cm14 rom's and let's not even get started on the GPU...Point is the 810 is very still a flagship soc. Snapdragon 821>820>810>>652>650...
Oh no I don't think, In benchmark s810 better than 650 yes, but in reality.... the a72 are fastest same if they are only 2 than the "old gen" cores of S810...
The GPU isn't stable a long time, when the GPU of 650 is perfectly stable ... looks manhattan longterm performance (30minutes) same if in theory 510 = 418 or 420 in practical it's a stable GPU so really better than us and same than 810, maybe one 810 could be better it's the nexus 6p... but OP2 really not ...
Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
Go for the Kenzo, you won't regret it.
What you will regret though is wasting your money on the Redmi Note 4 aka a pile of trash.
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Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
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Still worth it, i have the RN3 Snapdragon since 02/16 and was thinking to buy a new device, of course the build quality is better on the RN4 and it is looking a little bit nicer, but the RN4 isn't so smooth as the RN3 in some points, for example in gaming, the camera with ONLY 13mp / the software for the camera is also not good, but this is a known miui problem for likely all devices.
You can also find some threads in the miui forum, that Nougat or higher will not be supported for the RN4, but for the RN3 causes of the MTK-chipset. You can find hundreds of cons & pros at the miui forum or somewhere else but at all i'm thinking the RN3 is a good choice and take the Kenzo, more stable than the Kate one for me.
Hope that this will help you a bit :good:
Greetings
*sry for my bad english
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So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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Yeah, run this one, Top One is legit and ask if you can get the phone SEALED!
I think it is running a custom vendors rom, not so great, if you can get it sealed, it would be better because you dont have to flash an original rom.
When you get it with a vendors rom, then flash over fastboot with mi flash, if fastboot isn't working, simply turn your phone into EDL mode, then flash it :good:
Look on Miui Forum for the tutorial
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Kicroy said:
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So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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A RN4 with 652 will never come and a Redmi 5 isn't planned for 2016 anymore, Redmi 5 maybe will launch in about 05/2017
Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
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Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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Kenzo have more roms, this is why I want a Kenzo or at least flash Kenzo roms on Kate. I don't care about 4g
I think this phone is still a good buy. I went with Kate just so I could get LTE here in the States. I was getting sick of 3G/H+ speeds with my past 5 Xiaomi devices.
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Hello guys
So I've been using my nexus 5x along with my moro e for few months now
Recently my nexus 5x ran into some problems I couldn't solve
So I'm now looking for new device
Is redmi note 4 worth buying for me ?
When I was using nexus 5x. ..I've been using lot of custom ROMs .. Can i expect same from redmi note 4 ?
I need notification light as well
While on nexus 5x. . if I relock my boot loader I could claim my warranty ..does the same goes with xiaomi ?
Please someone answer these questions and suggest me
Modder001
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If you really like MIUI, then I'd say its worth it...There's not a lot available for custom ROMs and I don't know if there ever will be. I also am unsure if Xiaomi will ever bring Nougat to the phone either, though I would expect it at this point.
The phone is pretty fast..It's the software that is holding it back...I have a Nextbit Robin with the 808 processor (Same as your 5x), and this thing smokes the robin in real world performance (And Geekbench4).
My $.02
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The phone is pretty fast..It's the software that is holding it back...
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That's the story for every Mi and I've used a couple.
To me the best solution would be getting rid of MIUI and going with stock... but on Mi h/w. Easier said than done though. Ah well at least one can get the Google Now launcher and the app drawer.
I've been a 'flashaholic' with my previous phone the LG G3, and changing to RN4 is a pretty big deal for me(because MediaTek and MIUI)
You can't expect the same support since you're coming from a NEXUS device but there's a decent amount of ROMs for the RN4 here and more to come.
Stock MIUI 8 isn't bad actually, just paired it with root access, nougat theme and nova launcher. All good for me.
Modder001 said:
Hello guys
So I've been using my nexus 5x along with my moro e for few months now
Recently my nexus 5x ran into some problems I couldn't solve
So I'm now looking for new device
Is redmi note 4 worth buying for me ?
When I was using nexus 5x. ..I've been using lot of custom ROMs .. Can i expect same from redmi note 4 ?
I need notification light as well
While on nexus 5x. . if I relock my boot loader I could claim my warranty ..does the same goes with xiaomi ?
Please someone answer these questions and suggest me
Modder001
Please ignore grammatical mistakes if any
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if you get it for cheap then yeah. TRy getting the snapdragon version for INSANE battery life. Apart from that, the MTK version shares all the same features (like camera quality) as the snapdragon one. One thing though; the MTK one charges one hour faster that the Snapdragon version. For the record, the 4100Mah Redmi note 4 MTK charges in 2 hours and 10 minutes from 5% using a 5V 2A charger. add 1 hour for the snapdragon version.
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if you get it for cheap then yeah. TRy getting the snapdragon version for INSANE battery life. Apart from that, the MTK version shares all the same features (like camera quality) as the snapdragon one. One thing though; the MTK one charges one hour faster that the Snapdragon version. For the record, the 4100Mah Redmi note 4 MTK charges in 2 hours and 10 minutes from 5% using a 5V 2A charger. add 1 hour for the snapdragon version.
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Do you know why it takes 1 hour longer?
Wilderone said:
Do you know why it takes 1 hour longer?
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no fast charging. Without it, the 625 SOC won't take in more current vs MTK redmi note 4 which takes 5v 2A.
Thanks to all those who replied
I'm looking forward to buy a snapdragon variant soon
I have one more doubt tho
Does Redmi note 4 has a notificationlight ?
Thanks
Modder001 said:
Thanks to all those who replied
I'm looking forward to buy a snapdragon variant soon
I have one more doubt tho
Does Redmi note 4 has a notificationlight ?
Thanks
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Yes it does.
Nougat based MIUI beta version is available. I have been using 4 GB model & my advice is to just go for it.
I have preferred MIUI & have stuck to Xiaomi handsets. Recently, I purchased Moto Z Play as Xiaomi phones were coming hybrid Sim with just 32 GB internal memory, which were not fulfilling my needs. But I was annoyed by lack of customisation, firewall, Blocklist, Call Recorder, internet speed meter & auto BackUp, which are present in MIUI & are absent in Moto Z Play. Now for Moto Z Play, I had to install a lot of additional softwares, but sense of perfection with MIUI was somehow missing. In first Redmi Note 4 sale, I purchased a 4GB variant & sold Moto Z Play for pittance.
Hi!
Im going to buy new device soon, but I can't decide which phone is more worthy to buy.
I know Mi A1 have stock android, but I hope I can easily install custom roms on Redmi Note 4.
I don't seriously care about camera, and built in storage.
Is there a big difference then?
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Have a look here:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/...l-3gb-32gb,xiaomi-redmi-note-44gb-64gb-global
Mirdeusz said:
Hi!
Im going to buy new device soon, but I can't decide which phone is more worthy to buy.
I know Mi A1 have stock android, but I hope I can easily install custom roms on Redmi Note 4.
I don't seriously care about camera, and built in storage.
Is there a big difference then?
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It depends upon your choice, are you a person who likes pure stock android? Or are you a person who likes customisation?
Android version should not be a case to consider, because redmi note 4x got the android 8.1 within a month of its release. Also if you want performance please note that both phones have same chipset but stock android or custom rom gives upto 10x more performance than stock miui, and i have a whole thread containing bechmarks of different custom roms.
So the main point is that
If you don't really want to root and just want a pure stock android experience with no mods, go for mi a1, but if you are ready to root and want to be a part of the development community, go for redmi note 4x,
Since you said you don't care about the camera i didn't mention it, but if your budget allows go for the 64 gb variant of redmi note 4x with 4 gb ram because it will help with performance in coming years.
Hope this helped
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It depends upon your choice, are you a person who likes pure stock android? Or are you a person who likes customisation?
Android version should not be a case to consider, because redmi note 4x got the android 8.1 within a month of its release. Also if you want performance please note that both phones have same chipset but stock android or custom rom gives upto 10x more performance than stock miui, and i have a whole thread containing bechmarks of different custom roms.
So the main point is that
If you don't really want to root and just want a pure stock android experience with no mods, go for mi a1, but if you are ready to root and want to be a part of the development community, go for redmi note 4x,
Since you said you don't care about the camera i didn't mention it, but if your budget allows go for the 64 gb variant of redmi note 4x with 4 gb ram because it will help with performance in coming years.
Hope this helped
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I think if you want to have a look at an alternative for a phone with root and custom roms, have a look at the LeEco Le Max 2 X820. There is an official LineageOS out for that too. The plus points of that are: uncomplicated unlocking of the bootloader compared to the Xiaomi way. Then it has a SD 820 cpu and Qualcom Quick Charge 3, which the Redmi Note 4 doesn't have with any stock rom and the Mi A1 only with the MIUI9 beta rom.
Also have in mind that you check your carrier frequencies, as there are different models of the Redmi Note 4 and also of the Le Max 2. For me it was important to have the LTE band 3 (1800) and 20 (800). Therefore in my case the Redmi Note 4 Global 3GB/32GB was my choice and I did not find out about the Le Max 2 after I ordered.
Go for the Note4 if you dont care about the camera. Why? The community at xda has faaaar more ROMs to offer and you find here fantastic support.
Check also: (german)
https://www.chinahandys.net/xiaomi-redmi-note-4x-testbericht/
https://www.chinahandys.net/xiaomi-mi5x/ (Mi5x same as Mi A1)
Check out Banggood if you want to go for the Mi. They temporarily have a nice offer. Use the Couponcode: 1BGMIA1RED
gerega
P.S.
LeEco is a dead (bankrupt?) company. I wouldnt touch anything from them.
gerega said:
Go for the Note4 if you dont care about the camera. Why? The community at xda has faaaar more ROMs to offer and you find here fantastic support.
Check also: (german)
https://www.chinahandys.net/xiaomi-redmi-note-4x-testbericht/
https://www.chinahandys.net/xiaomi-mi5x/ (Mi5x same as Mi A1)
Check out Banggood if you want to go for the Mi. They temporarily have a nice offer. Use the Couponcode: 1BGMIA1RED
gerega
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LeEco is a dead (bankrupt?) company. I wouldnt touch anything from them.
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*Dead* lmaooo:silly:
Im gonna get Xiaomi Mi A1 because there is no much difference between redmi note 4 (4/64 variant) and Mi A1 in price at this moment, and i prefer stock android and Mi A1 looks much better. Thanks for all answers
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but mi a1 battery is lower than rmn4.
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*Dead* lmaooo:silly:
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Show me that they have survived. Last info I have is that they are selling all sma rtphones that are left and not going to produce anything new. At least that part of Leeco is dead. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Mirdeusz said:
Im gonna get Xiaomi Mi A1 because there is no much difference between redmi note 4 (4/64 variant) and Mi A1 in price at this moment, and i prefer stock android and Mi A1 looks much better. Thanks for all answers
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No big price difference? At least gearbest offers the 64 GB variant regularly for around 130€. The Mi A1 is sold there temporarly for 185€. Check the german Website above to find the coupon code. https://www.chinahandys.net/xiaomi-mi-a1-angebot/
Hint: You need to be logged in with your account to have the code working.
Go rn4
Bigger battery n community better than phone looks and dual camera gimmick.
With the new mods we have hdr+, potrait mode like dual camera, etc... If you're lucky, you get sony / samsung sensor... Its better compared to a1 omnivision sensor.
You always can go pure android using any los/aosp based custom roms. It have no bloatware like stock android one rom.
Hello! Im new here i need your suggestions what to buy 4 or 4x as the two comes w/ snapdragon variant?? Do they have major differences? Bugs or what?? Also, are snapdragon roms are compatible to 4 or 4x as long as its snapdragon? Sorry for my bad english. Any help is appreciated. Ty.
QueenCarmella08 said:
Hello! Im new here i need your suggestions what to buy 4 or 4x as the two comes w/ snapdragon variant?? Do they have major differences? Bugs or what?? Also, are snapdragon roms are compatible to 4 or 4x as long as its snapdragon? Sorry for my bad english. Any help is appreciated. Ty.
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It's the same phone. It simply has different names in different countries. Just make sure it's the Snapdragon version.
Depending on where you live, you may want to buy the Global version of the phone which supports more LTE bands (like band 20 in Europe).
But to be honest with you, I wouldn't buy the Note 4X anymore.
The Note 5/Note 5 Pro is already out.
The MI A1 ist basically a Note 4X with pure Android instead of MIUI and dual camera.
The Redmi 5/Redmi 5 Plus is basically a Note 4X with a 18:9 display instead of 16:9.
The new Mi 6X came out recently with a better CPU, dual cameras and MIUI.
The MI A2 (the same phone as Mi 6X but with pure Android instead of MIUI) will be announced soon.
So all roms and kernels of snapdragon will be compatible to both 4 and 4x as long its snapdragon? Thank you for the suggestions. I'll look for redmi note 5 pro
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So all roms and kernels of snapdragon will be compatible to both 4 and 4x as long its snapdragon?
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Correct.
So, is it good to buy 4x cause it's more updated than 4?
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So, is it good to buy 4x cause it's more updated than 4?
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You need to buy the phone with Snapdragon 625. Depending where you life, it's called either Redmi Note 4X or Redmi Note 4 Global Edition.
Just make sure that you buy the phone with Snapdragon and not MTK (MediaTek) processor
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It's the same phone. It simply has different names in different countries. Just make sure it's the Snapdragon version.
Depending on where you live, you may want to buy the Global version of the phone which supports more LTE bands (like band 20 in Europe).
But to be honest with you, I wouldn't buy the Note 4X anymore.
The Note 5/Note 5 Pro is already out.
The MI A1 ist basically a Note 4X with pure Android instead of MIUI and dual camera.
The Redmi 5/Redmi 5 Plus is basically a Note 4X with a 18:9 display instead of 16:9.
The new Mi 6X came out recently with a better CPU, dual cameras and MIUI.
The MI A2 (the same phone as Mi 6X but with pure Android instead of MIUI) will be announced soon.
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That is good to know, However there is one thing I would like too add:
Xiaomi is very bad in the development scene, they do not provide kernel source and devices trees for developers to build custom roms or kernels, and currently the Redmi Note 4 has both, while new devices probably don't.
If you care about custom roms/kernels ( and everyone here at XDA probably do) check the device respective development threads before purchasing the device to see if there is any activity.
Since basically in my opinion MIUI is a version mess.
Check for the processor. Don't buy the Note with mediatek chipset.