My Pixel 6 hasn't arrived yet but hopefully soon. I'm getting the unlocked version and I'm a Verizon customer. My plan is to root the phone and stay on the Google builds. I don't plan to install the Verizon build. I don't want anything from Verizon except the SIM card (which I already have and plan to transfer from my previous phone).
I've heard some reports of this not working though, of intermittent or no connectivity from Verizon. Some people on other forums report that they need to go to a store for a SIM swap, or switch to eSIM, but even that only works for a while and then it drops again.
Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
aurny said:
My Pixel 6 hasn't arrived yet but hopefully soon. I'm getting the unlocked version and I'm a Verizon customer. My plan is to root the phone and stay on the Google builds. I don't plan to install the Verizon build. I don't want anything from Verizon except the SIM card (which I already have and plan to transfer from my previous phone).
I've heard some reports of this not working though, of intermittent or no connectivity from Verizon. Some people on other forums report that they need to go to a store for a SIM swap, or switch to eSIM, but even that only works for a while and then it drops again.
Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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I have the Google store version of the pro 6, on Verizon, and using Google build. I have on all of my Pixel phones.
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Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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First, they are not built by Verizon they are built by Google with different modem/network items for Verizon. That is the only difference, no extra apps or anything like that. As soon as you put a VZ SIM in it you will pull the My Verizon app no matter what firmware you are using. You can uninstall it. The updates all come from Google, not the carrier.
Go to the Google factory image download page and look at the Pixel 5 downloads. You will see in March of 2021 there was only one image for everything and it was that way for months. Then this fall they split apart. This is very common, Google splits them for awhile then merges them.
The VZ version will not lock your phone, add any bloatware or anything like that. But might give you a better signal.
What you want to do will work but isn't needed and probably not the best way to do it.
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The VZ version will not lock your phone, add any bloatware or anything like that.
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Thanks... one concern is that I'm coming from a Samsung and on this phone, Verizon forces OTAs. You can delay when the update happens but only briefly. This is a VZW phone, not unlocked, but I figured the VZW firmware is pushing the updates.
Updating requires re-rooting so I'd prefer to do it on my schedule, not Verizon's. Do you know if this is going to be an issue with the Pixel?
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First, they are not built by Verizon they are built by Google with different modem/network items for Verizon. That is the only difference, no extra apps or anything like that. As soon as you put a VZ SIM in it you will pull the My Verizon app no matter what firmware you are using. You can uninstall it. The updates all come from Google, not the carrier.
Go to the Google factory image download page and look at the Pixel 5 downloads. You will see in March of 2021 there was only one image for everything and it was that way for months. Then this fall they split apart. This is very common, Google splits them for awhile then merges them.
The VZ version will not lock your phone, add any bloatware or anything like that. But might give you a better signal.
What you want to do will work but isn't needed and probably not the best way to do it.
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One further thing Verizon puts on. Under "all apps" - show system - scroll down for the "my verizon services" app. You can't delete it you can only stop and disable it. It does get reenabled on some schedule, perhaps on the monthly updates, so every once in a while you need to redo the disable thing. What it does it allows Verizon to get into your phone and see all the apps you have installed and when you installed them. Also how long your system has been running, whether or not you factory reset etc. Very intrusive, imo, so I always disable it first thing and check it regularly.
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Updating requires re-rooting so I'd prefer to do it on my schedule, not Verizon's. Do you know if this is going to be an issue with the
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Once you are rooted updates will fail to install, so there won't be any surprises.
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Once you are rooted updates will fail to install, so there won't be any surprises.
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Hmm, are you sure about this? That would be fine, but in the root thread it says in big bold letters:
AUTOMATIC OTA WILL LOSE ROOT AND REQUIRE A WIPE TO ROOT AGAIN.
Hey folks, if anyone has access to system directory of Android 12, could you upload Google Sans fonts here?
aurny said:
My Pixel 6 hasn't arrived yet but hopefully soon. I'm getting the unlocked version and I'm a Verizon customer. My plan is to root the phone and stay on the Google builds. I don't plan to install the Verizon build. I don't want anything from Verizon except the SIM card (which I already have and plan to transfer from my previous phone).
I've heard some reports of this not working though, of intermittent or no connectivity from Verizon. Some people on other forums report that they need to go to a store for a SIM swap, or switch to eSIM, but even that only works for a while and then it drops again.
Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/qglwf3
These instructions worked perfectly to get esim working.
I'm using the Verizon firmware on the unlocked model. Wifi calling works and all.
I didn't get the QR code but the Reddit thread has a link for one on step 7. And my account was already CDMAless because of using a 1+ 7 Pro prior.
It took about 5-10 minutes after doing everything before I could make calls and send texts.
Idk if wifi calling works on unlocked firmware but it's enabled by a Verizon specific system app, com.verizon.mips.services
Edit. Idk why the link has a screenshot preview.
Mine didn't require any special provisioning. Running Google version of firmware. Unlocked bootloader, rooted, then inserted SIM from previous 2 XL.
Awesome, @TotallyAnxious and @Sunsparc, thank you both.
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My Pixel 6 hasn't arrived yet but hopefully soon. I'm getting the unlocked version and I'm a Verizon customer. My plan is to root the phone and stay on the Google builds. I don't plan to install the Verizon build. I don't want anything from Verizon except the SIM card (which I already have and plan to transfer from my previous phone).
I've heard some reports of this not working though, of intermittent or no connectivity from Verizon. Some people on other forums report that they need to go to a store for a SIM swap, or switch to eSIM, but even that only works for a while and then it drops again.
Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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Well I'm not quite an identical situation but I'm using visible. And from what I've seen from Sears, we encounter the exact same problems as it's the same parent company. It worked instantly out of the box as soon as I pop my SIM card in on my unlocked Pixel (Global) 6 Pro. No issues at all.
However, as you're probably well aware, test builds with other games don't work. Oxygen OS 12 beta 1/2 for example, would not work with visible or Verizon Even when I put in the correct commonly unknown APN settings (There's actually four of them).
how did you root it?
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Mine didn't require any special provisioning. Running Google version of firmware. Unlocked bootloader, rooted, then inserted SIM from previous 2 XL.
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how did you root it?
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[CLOSED] Firmware is out! Get your root on!
Update 12/15/21: Magisk 23016 incorporates fixes for vbmeta header patching; disabling verity/verification is no longer necessary. Update and root should work as it always has - simply patch and flash the boot image. Any update method can be...
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i used boot.img extract from Pixel image file and patched it on my poco x3. I don't know why i can't do it on P6 but i got te pached file then copy it to P6. then followed up the link i provided above until i got to the flashing vbmeta, using a command from that link. After i got it then i fastboot boot magisk_patched then boot into my phone. After then go to Magisk Manager, at first i have no "Direct install" so i tried to flash it in fastboot mode again. then i hot it. once i turn on the phone, the direct install was thete then i used that method to permanently rooted. hope it helps.
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Mine didn't require any special provisioning. Running Google version of firmware. Unlocked bootloader, rooted, then inserted SIM from previous 2 XL.
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Did you get the Verizon or unlocked version? If Verizon, how did you unlock the bootloader?
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Did you get the Verizon or unlocked version? If Verizon, how did you unlock the bootloader?
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I don't think you can unlock the bl on the Verizon hardware. But you CAN buy an unlocked phone and put the Verizon firmware on it.
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Did you get the Verizon or unlocked version? If Verizon, how did you unlock the bootloader?
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Unlocked. I always buy unlocked.
I just recently paid of my Verizon Pixel 4 XL and called Verizon to see if they could unlock the bootloader. After about an hour and speaking with Tier 2 tech support, I was informed that the bootloader is locked forever and was recommended to buy directly from Google if you need to unlock the bootloader.
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I just recently paid of my Verizon Pixel 4 XL and called Verizon to see if they could unlock the bootloader. After about an hour and speaking with Tier 2 tech support, I was informed that the bootloader is locked forever and was recommended to buy directly from Google if you need to unlock the bootloader.
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You could have come here and been told the same thing in under a minute and saved yourself the time and effort. It's common knowledge since Pixel 3. Hopefully your information will help someone else out.
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So the solution to get an unlocked 10 working on verizon is like this..
Must have already active sim card***
Must be S-OFF**** AND STAY S-OFF while using this radio
Boot to bootloader
- fastboot flash the vzw radio in bootloader mode (download here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24539885398392983)
fastboot flash radio vzw_pme_radio.img
fastboot reboot
When phone boots go into cellular networks and make sure radio select is global.
Then enter secret menu by opening dialer and dialing *#*#4636#*#*
and chose the option "CDMA/EvDOGSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto"
At this point, you should have data/calls/texts if your sim was already active. If not reboot and re-test. Advanced calling features obviously won't work at the start of this.. but I know for certain can be re-added by our dev community. One verizon dev says he can do this day one. Clock has started homeboy.....
Note this was a collaborative effort here and some very helpful folk whom i have the greatest respect for completed this for the community. @beaups was the first to rock a carbon grey unlocked phone on the verizon network and as such deserves the credit for this...
Again D and team. thank you! I was losing hope quickly with the unlocked working (probably a bit prematurely I'll admit) but is there a place where I can send a donation when I get payed? Attempting tomorrow with sunshine and then following this guide! Halaleiuja! I think that's how you spell it?
Thank you guys, this is fantastic
For those of us with both a VZW and an unlocked model, which should we keep?
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For those of us with both a VZW and an unlocked model, which should we keep?
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Not a dev, nor do I have a HTC 10, but I would say the unlocked would be a better bet. Support straight from HTC as you bought directly from them, unlocked so it can be used anywhere (don't know if Verizon region locks etc) and more likelihood of custom software.
One more thing, a handset purchased directly from HTC has Uh Oh protection, a Verizon unit does not.
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@dottat OK so I am coming from a Verizon M7 and the sim card I have is a different size. Am I screwed? Can I do everything else then go in and get a new sim after the fact? I tried yesterday before the solution and they were going to give me the correct sim, but of course couldn't get it to register and wouldn't let me have the sim.
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@dottat OK so I am coming from a Verizon M7 and the sim card I have is a different size. Am I screwed? Can I do everything else then go in and get a new sim after the fact? I tried yesterday before the solution and they were going to give me the correct sim, but of course couldn't get it to register and wouldn't let me have the sim.
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I would say go into corporate Verizon store, tell them that you were directed by customer service on the phone to get a new nfc-enabled nano SIM in order to activate your htc10. They will just ask for your account info and attach that SIM cards number to your account and tell you that you need to contact customer service over the phone again in order to try activation. Kinda funny as That's what one of the customer service reps told me was the reason the unlocked version's activation was not working on Verizon that I needed a new sim. Just did this 2 days ago
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so for us coming from the m8, will the nano sim work? or is there now a smaller/different sim?
Light1984 said:
@dottat OK so I am coming from a Verizon M7 and the sim card I have is a different size. Am I screwed? Can I do everything else then go in and get a new sim after the fact? I tried yesterday before the solution and they were going to give me the correct sim, but of course couldn't get it to register and wouldn't let me have the sim.
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Do you have another line on the account with a different phone that does have the correct sim? If so you could get another sim for that phone, and you can activate it yourself. (or if they activate it for you, you can use the old sim for it.) Just needed a device to allow the activation for the new sim.
Hmmm, I'll check when I get home, I have 5 phones, but not sure if they have the smaller sim, 3 of them are basic flip phones for business. Not sure if any of them would be the NFC enabled Sims though, would be best if I could follow the guide then have them try to activate the card after the fact. I'm not an expert, but I don't really see any blocker to that route.
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So the solution to get an unlocked 10 working on verizon is like this..
Must have already active sim card***
Must be S-OFF****
Boot to bootloader
fastboot flash the vzw radio in bootloader mode (download here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24539885398392983)
fastboot flash radio vzw_pme_radio.img
fastboot reboot
When phone boots go into cellular networks and make sure radio select is global.
Then enter secret menu by opening dialer and dialing *#*#4636#*#*
and chose the option "CDMA/EvDOGSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto"
At this point, you should have data/calls/texts if your sim was already active. If not reboot and re-test. Advanced calling features obviously won't work at the start of this.. but I know for certain can be re-added by our dev community. One verizon dev says he can do this day one. Clock has started homeboy.....
Note this was a collaborative effort here and some very helpful folk whom i have the greatest respect for completed this for the community.
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confirmed working!!! thanks man FANTASTIC WORK!!
Virus said:
confirmed working!!! thanks man FANTASTIC WORK!!
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So Virus. You've tested and it worked for you.
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So Virus. You've tested and it worked for you.
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yes sir!
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Does this process need to be repeated every time a new ROM is flashed? Or once the device is whitelisted with VZW should you be good to go?
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Does this process need to be repeated every time a new ROM is flashed? Or once the device is whitelisted with VZW should you be good to go?
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It will likely require the vzw radio to support it however that's not a normal item flashed during rom flashing so unless you manually update firmware back to unlocked you should be OK.
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It will likely require the vzw radio to support it however that's not a normal item flashed during rom flashing so unless you manually update firmware back to unlocked you should be OK.
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D, is it safe to update to the latest firmware from HTC before performing everything? S-off root, and then this?
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awareunlikeu said:
D, is it safe to update to the latest firmware from HTC before performing everything? S-off root, and then this?
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I would s-off sooner rather than later. Just s-off. Factory reset. Take ota. Then flash radio, twrp etc.
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It will likely require the vzw radio to support it however that's not a normal item flashed during rom flashing so unless you manually update firmware back to unlocked you should be OK.
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Dangit, Dot, now I don't know what to do. I just ordered a Verizon 10 when I saw Jcase and his crew got s-off and root on it. But then I read where they're not going to be able to release a do-it-yourself version any time soon. The experience of sending my M9 to you was flawless and not expensive, but on the other hand I'd rather have the unlocked phone. The sim from my M9 would do the trick, correct? Any advice on which way to go?
How does everyone feel about att getting left out of the galaxy beta program? I already feel our root method is basically crippled and with the bootloader locked I'm considering a pixel as my next phone, but curious about the s8. Thoughts and opinions? I for one was excited to see Samsung s beta program right up until the blocked att...
I want to get the new pixel phone because of the locked bootloader but do not know about how to go about it as I am still paying for this phone monthly. I'm just hoping that this bootloader gets unlocked for nougat, I don't even need custom roms all I want is root with normal battery life.
I was excited about the beta program as well when I first read about it, but then AT&T had to ruin it for us. I just hope that does not mean that we'll have to wait longer than everyone else to get it when the final build is ready.
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There are instructions online on how to sideboard the beta but I have not tried it. It will load the F variant. Not sure how that will play out.
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There are instructions online on how to sideboard the beta but I have not tried it. It will load the F variant. Not sure how that will play out.
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where can I find them?
Idk if that works. Someone was asking about how to flash back since that soft bricked their phone.
Att always denies users the good stuff and takes forever with updates because they have to load them up with bloat crap.
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Idk if that works. Someone was asking about how to flash back since that soft bricked their phone.
Att always denies users the good stuff and takes forever with updates because they have to load them up with bloat crap.
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I'm gonna let someone else try then...
The 930F has a different processor, probably why
If I get the beta I will upload the ota zip. There shouldn't be any reason you guys couldn't use it. I'm on tmobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/how-to/update-to-nougat-t3499909/page1
Verizon s7 flat ota.zip thread. Be careful
So it looks like a few people have done the verizon OTA to nougut, does anyone have any pro's or con's to using verizon vs tmobile with a 930a and att service? Also can anyone provide a step by step on changing the apn, I am concerned about what will and will not work since the fw is not designed for this carrier.
I am assuming that Volte and Wifi/Video Calling will NOT work, but obviously would be willing to be proven wrong.
Ive recently abandoned root and just applied a pixel launcher to the Nov. 1st update from ATT. If my phone wasnt company provided I would just get a Pixel already....
Thoughts?
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So it looks like a few people have done the verizon OTA to nougut, does anyone have any pro's or con's to using verizon vs tmobile with a 930a and att service? Also can anyone provide a step by step on changing the apn, I am concerned about what will and will not work since the fw is not designed for this carrier.
I am assuming that Volte and Wifi/Video Calling will NOT work, but obviously would be willing to be proven wrong.
Ive recently abandoned root and just applied a pixel launcher to the Nov. 1st update from ATT. If my phone wasnt company provided I would just get a Pixel already....
Thoughts?
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I flashed the nougat update from Verizon on my AT&T S7 so far everything looks okay I got internet to work just by updating the APN texting works calling MMS sometimes works sometimes doesn't. Only thing I noticed is that lost band 17 which normally I have here where I live and now it's connected to band 4 so I'm between H+ and LTE
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I flashed the nougat update from Verizon on my AT&T S7 so far everything looks okay I got internet to work just by updating the APN texting works calling MMS sometimes works sometimes doesn't. Only thing I noticed is that lost band 17 which normally I have here where I live and now it's connected to band 4 so I'm between H+ and LTE
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Where did you find the PH1 FW for the 930V, I am only finding the 935V.
I just got it today from T-Mobile, it's got some issues with switching network status. When I lose signal I lose data even after it connects to LTE towers. I have to toggle airplane mode just to get data back. It doesn't like switching back to 5G. I had to change from default display scaling just to download an APK in google chrome.
For the record it has not had an update yet at the time of posting.
After I unlock the bootloader I'll get started on getting us TWRP on at least the T-Mobile Variant.
If you could do that it would be awesome. I was thinking of root. I wonder if we could do the magisk boot patch if we can unlock the bootloader.....
I got as far as GIT into the N100 debloater and network unlock script; but was unable to remount any system partitions as RW no matter what I tried
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I just got it today from T-Mobile, it's got some issues with switching network status. When I lose signal I lose data even after it connects to LTE towers. I have to toggle airplane mode just to get data back. It doesn't like switching back to 5G. I had to change from default display scaling just to download an APK in google chrome.
For the record it has not had an update yet at the time of posting.
After I unlock the bootloader I'll get started on getting us TWRP on at least the T-Mobile Variant.
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TWRP would be absolutely amazing. I'm actually getting this phone from T-Mobile as we speak, so this would be a lovely step forward in modifications.
Has anyone found somewhere on their site to download the factory images? It could be too new but it is a bit odd.....
Just got mine today, I guess this will be the last Nord with snapdragon.
GPS seems wonky especially in certain indoor settings like shopping malls. Pokémon Go is virtually unplayable right now at my local shopping mall due to this.
I just had an idea. T-Mobile allows 5 temporary unlocks per year. I wonder if this would allow the bootloader unlock to be toggled off.
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I just had an idea. T-Mobile allows 5 temporary unlocks per year. I wonder if this would allow the bootloader unlock to be toggled off.
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It does not. It needs to be perm unlocked
onyxcode said:
I just had an idea. T-Mobile allows 5 temporary unlocks per year. I wonder if this would allow the bootloader unlock to be toggled off.
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If you've been with Tmo for awhile, they might unlock for you if it's been on the network 40 days. I went through Twitter DMs to talk to them about my 6T and they had no problem with doing it. Going to try with this one too
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If you've been with Tmo for awhile, they might unlock for you if it's been on the network 40 days. I went through Twitter DMs to talk to them about my 6T and they had no problem with doing it. Going to try with this one too
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I see, thank you for the info. I'll wait 60 days and then ask if they would be willing to unlock it!
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Has anyone found somewhere on their site to download the factory images? It could be too new but it is a bit odd.....
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I'm still looking for the rom too, nothing for now
Update: I've moved to a fully paid N200 5G since I'm now back on Metro by T-Mobile. I only need to wait 6 months for a full unlock request, which is miles better than 2 years. And I actually own the phone now as well. Can't wait for TWRP and Magisk to be available!
Edit: It was only $64 tax included
Just wondering, is it possible for this guy to unlock it? I saw a few people request the n200 but didn't see if it was completed.
McCoyer518 said:
Just wondering, is it possible for this guy to unlock it? I saw a few people request the n200 but didn't see if it was completed.
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I bought mine from Metro but asked him anyway. He tried to unlock it with my T-Mobile SIM in, but no dice.
I've been using Shizuku to fulfill my root needs until we get Magisk. I use Shizuku for DarQ and Termux. Works lovely especially since I don't need a computer to start it (Wireless debugging)
Hmm need to read up on Shizuku. May do some of the things I want as well.
Had a bad echo show up on my end of a speakerphone call tonight, turned speaker off and was still there. Was loud enough to end the call, this may be a deal breaker for me. I use speaker phone a lot.
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Had a bad echo show up on my end of a speakerphone call tonight, turned speaker off and was still there. Was loud enough to end the call, this may be a deal breaker for me. I use speaker phone a lot.
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I've used the speakerphone multiple times so far, had no issues.
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I've used the speakerphone multiple times so far, had no issues.
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So did I, until I had issues lol
I am on red pocket service. I just received an email stating I do not have VOLTE enabled and may lose service. Supposedly, I should be able to enable VOLTE. I reached out to customer service in the past and they stated it is active on their side. Their website says I should be able to see it under settings -> mobile network; but I see not options for VOLTE. I have had **** service the past few months, with texts not being sent despite it showing bars or texts incoming taking a while; I wonder if this is related. Can anyone please help me?
I am on Android 8.0.0
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Version: US99820h
If it helps, VoLTE plus app says VOLTE is enabled. Do I need to be concerned? Is there any reason my service seems to run like crap? It's red pocket GSM-T. Had many people tell me calling me goes straight to voicemail, I get texts late, for confirmation texts I often have to restart the phone to get the texts to come through... Any fix to this? Should I switch to a different image and go onto a different set of towers/service?
Many V30 phones require the carrier's ROM to operate VOLTE. For example, when I was on Verizon, I had to have VS996 to get VOLTE to work. I also used it on Total Wireless (which is a VZ MVNO) for the same reason.
I'm guessing your GSM-T means you're on TMo, so you may need a TMo ROM to get VOLTE to work. US998 is a world-phone ROM, so it's not carrier specific, which may be why it doesn't work.
As for the general operation, you should be fine on US998 for all other functions... so if you're having issues then there may be something else going on.
You might also just need some updates - 20h is nougat level, which is ancient. You may need to move to Oreo... which worked great for me on my V30 in the past.
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Many V30 phones require the carrier's ROM to operate VOLTE. For example, when I was on Verizon, I had to have VS996 to get VOLTE to work. I also used it on Total Wireless (which is a VZ MVNO) for the same reason.
I'm guessing your GSM-T means you're on TMo, so you may need a TMo ROM to get VOLTE to work. US998 is a world-phone ROM, so it's not carrier specific, which may be why it doesn't work.
As for the general operation, you should be fine on US998 for all other functions... so if you're having issues then there may be something else going on.
You might also just need some updates - 20h is nougat level, which is ancient. You may need to move to Oreo... which worked great for me on my V30 in the past.
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So, do you think I would need switch to a newer ROM, specifically for tmobile? I have been on us998 since buying it, always had some issues with texts coming in late and connectivity (although not as bad as when I had a S5 on Ting's t-mobile network). I had called and been told VOLTE is active with red pocket twice in the past, but despite always being on wifi I've still had people tell me I do not always come in clear when talking on the phone.
Can you point me to a newer ROM you used? I can try updating and messing with the phone later this month.
You can't use my ROM (VS996), as it was for Verizon. I doubt that will work for you. You need to find the proper on for your carrier (TMobile most likely) and see if that fixes the issues. All my ROMs I sourced from this website/forum, so you just need to search the V30 section here.
Note, when switching ROMs, you will need to wipe it so be prepared with backups for your data.
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So, do you think I would need switch to a newer ROM, specifically for tmobile? I have been on us998 since buying it, always had some issues with texts coming in late and connectivity (although not as bad as when I had a S5 on Ting's t-mobile network). I had called and been told VOLTE is active with red pocket twice in the past, but despite always being on wifi I've still had people tell me I do not always come in clear when talking on the phone.
Can you point me to a newer ROM you used? I can try updating and messing with the phone later this month.
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Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
tech_infinity said:
Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
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Do you have a us998 pie rom you recommend for me to try?
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Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
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I saw chazzmatt mention in another thread that when t mobile and sprint merged, VoLTE/VoWiFi calling on US998 firmware phones may have been lost. He suggested that changing to verizon version is a way to fix this. Is this something I may have to do? And is there a guide on how to do it? I only see switching to us998.
And this would this be the rom to flash to for android 9?
[US998][STOCK][PIE]LG V30 US998 US99830b_00_0902.KDZ
RECOVERY TIPS if you get stuck on logo while updating to this wonky US998 Pie. < Please stop asking in Telegram thread or creating new XDA threads when it's right here. We will just direct you back here. OK? ____________ * Do NOT update to Pie...
forum.xda-developers.com
@ChazzMatt is the resident expert, so you can certainly take his advice. I saw that post as well.
Converting to VS996 just means you will use LGUP to flash that ROM over your current one. The end of the WTF post/thread talks about this process as well (be sure to read that post on a computer, as phones often cut-off the bottom).
Note that this will erase your data, so backup/etc as necessary before doing that. My recommendation is to use the last Oreo version of the ROM, as Pie on VS996 had issues last time I had heard... that's the last ROM I used before switching to my other phone.
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I saw chazzmatt mention in another thread that when t mobile and sprint merged, VoLTE/VoWiFi calling on US998 firmware phones may have been lost. He suggested that changing to verizon version is a way to fix this. Is this something I may have to do? And is there a guide on how to do it? I only see switching to us998.
And this would this be the rom to flash to for android 9?
[US998][STOCK][PIE]LG V30 US998 US99830b_00_0902.KDZ
RECOVERY TIPS if you get stuck on logo while updating to this wonky US998 Pie. < Please stop asking in Telegram thread or creating new XDA threads when it's right here. We will just direct you back here. OK? ____________ * Do NOT update to Pie...
forum.xda-developers.com
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And in doing so, they still need an already-activated Verizon SIM card or Verizon MVNO SIM card. Verizon won't activate a SIM card with a phone that doesn't have native Verizon IMEI. But you can stick in an already activated SIM card into a v30 with VS996 firmware and it's fine. So whoever does this needs to also have an old Verizon phone for that purpose. Buy some cracked screen Verizon phone off eBay, activate Verizon or Verizon MVNO SIM card, THEN put that SIM card into Frankenstein'ed phone flashed with VS9996 (Verizon) firmware.
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And in doing so, they still need an already-activated Verizon SIM card or Verizon MVNO SIM card. Verizon won't activate a SIM card with a phone that doesn't have native Verizon IMEI. But you can stick in an already activated SIM card into a v30 with VS996 firmware and it's fine. So whoever does this needs to also have an old Verizon phone for that purpose. Buy some cracked screen Verizon phone off eBay, activate Verizon or Verizon MVNO SIM card, THEN put that SIM card into Frankenstein'ed phone flashed with VS9996 (Verizon) firmware.
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Are phone numbers attached to the sim? So I would have to: obtain verizon sim card, transfer my phone # while activating a plan on it using another phone, then place it into my current phone after flashing it into VS9996 and upgrading it to 9.0?
Yes, the phone number is attached to the SIM card.
Yes, your steps are correct - activate SIM on some other phone, then put it into the VS996.
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Yes, the phone number is attached to the SIM card.
Yes, your steps are correct - activate SIM on some other phone, then put it into the VS996.
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Hmmm, perhaps before I spend money to switch to verizon I should try upgrading from US99820h to US99830b using that thread I posted above? Maybe that will fix things for me. I thought I had fixed something when I updated my redpocket APN point, but I still get random loss of service where I live and work at (despite constant wifi). According to redpocket customer service, being locked into 240 MNC sim card does not change anything compared to 280 MNC.
Perusing the us99830b thread, I saw if I have TWRP installed then I must use johnfawk's image to flash. I cannot "upgrade" and keep all my data using the firmware off LG's website with LGUP. Am I understanding that part correctly? And the TWRP image for me to download is this link? Mirror Link
First, my recommendation is to stay at Oreo (20-series) ROMs. Last I recall, the V30 Pie rom had issues that were never fixed.
Secondly, yes, I don't believe you can upgrade the ROM... you will need to flash the full ROM which would erase things. That being said, since you're already converting between ROMs you will need to wipe the phone anyway, so do all the updates/upgrade BEFORE you install anything else on your phone. And, of course, backup everything you need before doing that...
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First, my recommendation is to stay at Oreo (20-series) ROMs. Last I recall, the V30 Pie rom had issues that were never fixed.
Secondly, yes, I don't believe you can upgrade the ROM... you will need to flash the full ROM which would erase things. That being said, since you're already converting between ROMs you will need to wipe the phone anyway, so do all the updates/upgrade BEFORE you install anything else on your phone. And, of course, backup everything you need before doing that...
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You mentioned before that 20h is nougat level, but my android version says 8.0.0, isn't that oreo already?
Looking at this site: https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-us998-firmwares/
I am already at the latest Oreo software. So, several questions:
1. I could back up all my stuff and risk missing something, but I can also just create a current TWRP image and go back to where I am presently in terms of all my stuff?
2. Should I be trying a https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-vs996-firmwares/ VS99620k version? When I reboot my phone it says it is a LG V30+ThinQ and I vaguely remember the box it came with said LS998 crossed off, with it booting as a US998 phone.
3. I have an old CDMA Galaxy S3 (best phone I've had). Assuming I am able to boot it up, can I buy a verizon MVNO sim card (let's say off of TING), switch my phone # to that and pop it in the S3? Or can I bum someone else' verizon phone and do this, then give the phone back instantly?
4. If a friend has an old verizon sim card, can I use that to utilize either red pocket or ting services?
5. Then, flash this US99820h to VS99620k, swap the sim card out of the S3 into the newly flashed V30?
6. Assuming I do all this and I still see no menu for VOLTE, assuming I still have the same issues of service dropping constantly, any suggestions for moving to a new phone, or what to use to find a new phone? Many new phones seem to have lots of stuff I do not care for (fancy cameras...) and no 3.5mm jack; but I really crave a phone that is functional.
Sorry for lots of questions. But each day this phone is pissing me off more and more and reminding me to do something about it - been busy and have stuff I do not want to risk losing.
I didn't say 20-series was nougat... I said it was Oreo?
1) TWRP will backup everything, so you could use this as a way to "keep safe" what you have now, and maybe you can break into the ZIP and extract things here and there as needed, but I don't think you can use this as a way to restore just your programs/data... it's a whole-image that you need to restore, which includes the OS and such. But if you're already on Oreo, I don't think you need to do any of that?
2) Yes, you can apply VS99620k. I believe that's what I had on my V30 before I left it. I wouldn't pay much attention to the splash screens on bootup... they change between versions but don't really mean/do anything from what I could see. My phone started as US998 (without the "ThinQ" branding) and I believe it showed the ThinQ branding when I was on VS996.
3) Yes, you'll need an activated SIM on VZ to transfer. Yes this is one way to do it. I did something similar with my Droid Turbo. VZ won't activate anything unless the IMEI matches THEIR phone, so this is one way to get that to happen. The trick, today, is that VZ may not activate the old phone because it's not VOLTE capable, so they'll say it's not supported, so that's a risk you should be aware of. For that matter, a newer SIM also may not work on the older phone... I don't know if that's a thing or not.
4) I don't know if MVNOs will let you use VZ SIM cards. Technically, they should be able to, but my guess is they will require their "own" SIM. You'd have to ask the MVNO.
I moved to the Galaxy S10+, which is a similar size phone, has a headphone jack, and is older so it's lower cost (I think I paid $300 about a year or two ago). A few other V30 faithfuls have followed this path as well. I think ChazzMatt went to a Note because that's what ATT gave him to help him transition to a VOLTE-capable phone. I believe he's still using his V30 though.
Newer Galaxy phones lost the headphone jack. I would recommend getting yourself ready for this eventuality... it may mean just getting a dongle, which isn't convenient, or getting bluetooth adapters... but my point is that it's going away whether you like it or not, so start preparing now.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, the S10 is not rootable (at least with Snapdragon). Exynos can be rooted, but I don't know how usable those are in the USA. That's another thing you may need to get used to - not being able to root/ROM. IMO, it's not necessary anymore, and I have given up on it on my phones... and I haven't missed it AT ALL. But I know some have gotten into heated arguments with me over that... one I recall was particularly nonsensical, but whatever. If I could root, I would do that... but I don't see it as a requirement anymore.
SuperUser1010 said:
Hmmm, perhaps before I spend money to switch to verizon I should try upgrading from US99820h to US99830b using that thread I posted above? Maybe that will fix things for me. I thought I had fixed something when I updated my redpocket APN point, but I still get random loss of service where I live and work at (despite constant wifi). According to redpocket customer service, being locked into 240 MNC sim card does not change anything compared to 280 MNC.
Perusing the us99830b thread, I saw if I have TWRP installed then I must use johnfawk's image to flash. I cannot "upgrade" and keep all my data using the firmware off LG's website with LGUP. Am I understanding that part correctly? And the TWRP image for me to download is this link? Mirror Link
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As @schwinn8 recommends staying on Oreo, I also concur.
1) If you have TWRP, just flash the Verizon last Oreo by John Fawkes. See link below.
LG V30 Verizon VS996-20k ROM
Working downlink mirror: VS996 20K Verizon TWRP-flashable ZIP
2) If you don't have TWRP installed -- for people who are not bootloader unlocked -- then you would flash full stock ROM VS996 20K "KDZ" file from US998. See top post in this thread. (For those who are still bootloader locked, the stock Verizon ROMs and US998 ROMs are the only ones for North America variants which are safely fully cross flashable without first having to go through the "Frankentein" conversion "Nougat" stage.)
As for spending money on Verizon to get VOLTE, there are several Verizon MVNOs that are less expensive than Verizon proper and will still do the trick. Both Visible and Total Wireless are even owned by Verizon, like Cricket is owned by AT&T.
RedPocket also offers Verizon-network SIM cards. They are also a Verizon MVNO. Which carrier service are you using with your RedPocket? They offer choice of AT&T (most common), T-Mobile and Verizon. I searched your posts in this thread and you don't say which you have -- so I assume the AT&T-linked SIM card? If you flash the last Oreo TWRP-flashable zip for Verizon, and you want to keep RedPocket, just have them ship you the Verizon-linked SIM card. You should then have VoLTE.
NOTE: You would still need to use an old Verizon phone to activate that SIM card, but then you could put it into your "VS996". I'm only suggesting a way to not have to actually switch to Verizon, you can still use Redpocket but have them send you a Verizon linked SIM once you are on Verizon firmware.
ChazzMatt said:
As for spending money on Verizon to get VOLTE, there are several Verizon MVNOs that are less expensive than Verizon proper and will still do the trick. Both Visible and Total Wireless are even owned by Verizon, like Cricket is owned by AT&T.
RedPocket also offers Verizon-network SIM cards. They are also a Verizon MVNO. Which carrier service are you using with your RedPocket? They offer choice of AT&T (most common), T-Mobile and Verizon. I searched your posts in this thread and you don't say which you have -- so I assume the AT&T-linked SIM card? If you flash the last Oreo TWRP-flashable zip for Verizon, and you want to keep RedPocket, just have them ship you the Verizon-linked SIM card. You should then have VoLTE.
NOTE: You would still need to use an old Verizon phone to activate that SIM card, but then you could put it into your "VS996". I'm only suggesting a way to not have to actually switch to Verizon, you can still use Redpocket but have them send you a Verizon linked SIM once you are on Verizon firmware.
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Got it, if flashing is all I have to do, this will be simple.
I was not clear, I did mean verizon MVNOs, meant more verizon in broader sense: CDMA. I am currently on red pocket T mobile. I was previously on Ting. Had similar issues on both with randomly losing service. It was bearable, but since 3G shutdown timeframe, this became a larger and more frequent issue. Currently, if I turn on data, I get Edge service (I read this is 2g?), otherwise when I am having a texting conversation, I am regularly losing service completely and do not have strong service in places where other Tmobile users have regular service.
On another note, I am looking to swap from red pocket; I spoke to customer service about call records, was told several times they would be sent to me, never received anything. Red pocket prices are hard to beat though.
I impulse bought a pixel 7 unlocked too (there were some incentives that were hard to resist). So, I will probably swap to that phone while holding onto this one and tinkering to see if it was a phone issue, US998 issue, SIM issue, service issue... then give the phone to family in a year or so.
My s22 didn't have none of the issues I'm having now with features. The only difference was I had a physical Sim vs esim and both unlocked.
1. No volte option
2. No video call option
3.samsung messages no enabling RCS
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antawnm26 said:
My s22 didn't have none of the issues I'm having now with features. The only difference was I had a physical Sim vs esim and both unlocked.
1. No volte option
2. No video call option
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This sounds like it's not properly provisioned to use those features. I would contact Verizon to make sure your phone is properly registered and that the sim allows those features.
cledee said:
This sounds like it's not properly provisioned to use those features. I would contact Verizon to make sure your phone is properly registered and that the sim allows those features.
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Ill do today
Well 2hrs later no solution. They even called samsung tech and he had the nerve to say samsung removed it from the updated version app. SMH.
NOBODY I mean nobody at Verizon seems to know wtf they are doing in the tech department.... oh it's because it's unlocked blah blah blah....mighty funny my s22 ultra was unlocked and worked just fine....
Are you using an esim?
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Are you using an esim?
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I was but I was in the Verizon store today and they switched it to physical sim and still nothing but I walk over to their wall and pick up a s23 ultra there's all the features
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I was but I was in the Verizon store today and they switched it to physical sim and still nothing but I walk over to their wall and pick up a s23 ultra there's all the features
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You'll probably have to flash Verizon firmware if you really want those features.
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You'll probably have to flash Verizon firmware if you really want those features.
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sorta defeats the purpose of the unlocked version as in I do need those features due to family out the country that's why I thought they had cleared all this up this year apparently they have not just sad really......Apple sales unlocked phones daily no issues at all...Google should have built out their data base plants like apple and not rely on some carriers to do what is right...just sayin
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sorta defeats the purpose of the unlocked version as in I do need those features due to family out the country that's why I thought they had cleared all this up this year apparently they have not just sad really......Apple sales unlocked phones daily no issues at all...Google should have built out their data base plants like apple and not rely on some carriers to do what is right...just sayin
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No I think you need to factory reset which sucks but have the regular Verizon sim card in your phone and it should have all the features on your phone upon activation.
This has been going on for a long time. There were threads about this on S20U and S22U forums. If you are using an U.S. Unlocked phone without the Carriers Firmware sometimes you miss out on carrier specific features. Seems to prove my point since you saw the store Verizon Phone phone with the options but not yours.
I can confirm that I have all of those features on my unlocked S23U, model SM-S918U1 using a Verizon SIM.
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I can confirm that I have all of those features on my unlocked S23U, model SM-S918U1 using a Verizon SIM.
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I don't know why I get a hold of the crazies because I been doing this for 3 days..lol
antawnm26 said:
I don't know why I get a hold of the crazies because I been doing this for 3 days..lol
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Also just now added a Verizon eSIM to my S23U to test and I can confirm all of the features are working on my end.
One thing of note - If registration is successful, the phone will prompt you to restart device in order to activate the features associated with the SIM. I do believe this process can get hung up or something happens that prevents it from working right (I experienced that before on previous phones) - which I think you'd need to try resetting the network config and the SIM settings and go through the process of re-adding the SIM or eSIM.
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I don't know why I get a hold of the crazies because I been doing this for 3 days..lol
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I've had the unlocked s21 ultra s22 ultra and now the s23 ultra and I never had any luck getting those features to work on any of them. The only time they worked was when I flashed the Verizon firmware. Then I lost the Samsung cloud and caller ID and spam functions. So I just resolved myself to not have those features and enjoy my unlocked phone. One other thing to note when I did have RCS on Samsung messages with the Verizon ROM it only did RCS between Verizon phones. If you do figure out how to get this working let me know cuz I'd be interested in trying it too.
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I was but I was in the Verizon store today and they switched it to physical sim and still nothing but I walk over to their wall and pick up a s23 ultra there's all the features
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That's odd. I had the same problem with T-Mobile, but when I inserted the T-Mobile sim, it downloaded the provisioning and everything worked. It sounds to me like the provisioning possibly may not have downloaded. I'd say try having them send provisioning to your phone. If you can't get them to do it, try a different carrier's sim card, so that it downloads something else, then go back to the Verizon one, so that it pulls it down again. Maybe that will work.
I only buy unlocked because the last time I paid in full a Verizon phone they tried to tack on a $30 upgrade fee.
mittymak said:
I only buy unlocked because the last time I paid in full a Verizon phone they tried to tack on a $30 upgrade fee.
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yea same boat but didn't think I would run into this issue again, geez is all I can say
antawnm26 said:
yea same boat but didn't think I would run into this issue again, geez is all I can say
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I'd recommend doing a factory reset then and re-adding the Verizon SIM or eSIM, and make sure to restart when prompted so the phone can install the features. You should not have to flash Verizon firmware to get those features to work on the SM-S918U1.
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I'd recommend doing a factory reset then and re-adding the Verizon SIM or eSIM, and make sure to restart when prompted so the phone can install the features. You should not have to flash Verizon firmware to get those features to work on the SM-S918U1.
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I’ve factory reset myself to death