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well I downloaded both roms wm6 and wm6.1 and I didn't notice any difference between them so can anyone plz tell me the difference
This from mobility today, personally I like my transformer 1.1 rom based on WM6 better than the 6.1 roms released so far.
Maybe its me but why is it that Microsoft takes such SMALL steps in updates. BoyGenius (way to go!) shows us the goods. Looks like the crew at Mobius got trumped since they got to see it too but couldn't share (whats new!)... Either way this is probably one of the WORST updates I have ever seen. The GUI is in no way more functional whatsoever! What are your thoughts?
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Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
New home screen
Change Master Security Code
Added text input settings
Recent Programs when pressing Start menu
Threaded SMS - Finally.. Only two years late
When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the "To:" field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
Task Manager now shows CPU usage as a whole, and also lists it by process
Internet Explorer offers 6 zoom modes and copy / paste functionality
IE also uses a new font, which looks worlds better
ActiveSync will now try to automatically configure your Exchange settings once you enter an email address
Wi-Fi indicator in the status bar, just as in Windows Mobile Professional
New "Vista" home screen and theme
That's about Windows Mobile 6.1 Smartphone Edition, nothing to do with the Prophet..
Yep but a lot of the above features are also true of the PPC version.
I'm a fan of the Iris Browser from Torch Mobile. Seriously, it's a much better browser. But I've always hated that TF3D can't be configured to use it. Well now it can be.
Opera Redirect replaces OperaL.exe and allows you to configure which browser to launch when TF3D needs to connect to the net. You configure it through a simple to use control panel applet and can switch at any time.
Click here to download OperaRedirect.CAB
IMPORTANT make sure you backup the file "OperaL.exe" from your \Windows directory before installing OperaRedirect. This file will be replaced upon installation of the cab and can't be restored. You have been warned.
Known Bugs:
Once install, Opera no longer functions!
No proper uninstall
Alternate Browsers MUST be install in their default paths and in main memory
Sometimes upon install, the applet doesn't show in the settings | system menu until after a reboot.
ToDo:
Copy OperaL.exe during installation and fixup the shortcut so Opera can remain functional
Add support for manually editing the browser to launch
Let me repeat: IMPORTANT make sure you backup the file "OperaL.exe" from your \Windows directory before installing OperaRedirect. This file will be replaced upon installation of the cab and can't be restored. You have been warned.
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Has anyone else used this besides me?
Yes - I use it. It's great - especially if you're a google user. Having the iPhone customised google pages for gmail/calendar/etc is awesome!
Does this work for Manila 2D?
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Does this work for Manila 2D?
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No idea. It should if Manila 2D launches the same exe for Opera.
Thank you. Works just as described. Now I get Skyfire to launch with tf3d.
we're on the same boat.. i just converted from Opera to Iris fan few minutes ago after experiencing Iris v1.1.7 just now... i saw your post in Iris blog and i'm downloading your cab.. i hope it works fine on my HTC Touch Pro WM6.5 Shep's ROM
Nice work bro
works great!
posting with it now
Sadly, Opera Redirect does not work with a Topaz / Touch Diamond 2. I would really like to open Iris browser with the TouchFlo Internet tab. Opera redirect's setup only sees Internet explorer, not Iris.....
Did you install Iris in to the default location?
Hi Joe; It seems a mod has removed all of my messages instead of the last one only First I would like to thank You for developing Opera Redirect. I hope I can ask You some things about it:
I managed to get Iris going. I can invoke Iris from the TouchFlo Internet tab. In my Dutch ROM, the default install path is "Programmabestanden\Iris Browser". So moved the Iris Browser folder to "Program Files" instead of "Programmabestanden". Opera Redirect could now see Iris and set it as default. The only thing is that if I start Iris from the Internet tab by tapping the globe, it opens with an address line in the top of the window that shows "about:blank", with a little button "Go" in the left top corner. Rest of the screen is grey and left... blank. If I fill in something in the search bar above the globe, and tap the spyglass, Iris starts and performs a scan with Google, which I set as home page, and directly displays the search results. I really would love to see that when I tap the globe, Iris starts and displays my home page instead of the about:blank page. Are You familiar with this? Also when I soft reset my device, Iris starts automatically since I set up Opera Redirect & Iris.
Hope You can point me in the right direction,
regards,
André
if anyone manages to download it from rapidshare, could they post as an attachment, it's only 16KB, then you don't have to screw with:
"This file can only be downloaded by becoming a Premium member. There are no more download slots available for free users right now."
I HATE RAPIDSHARE
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attached the original cab off of rapidshare, enjoy!
I love this program, I installed in on my Touch hd, needed to update .net framework but then it worked fine, but it doesn't seem to have support for Opera 10 Beta, It would be nice that this could be possible because it is so much better than the old opera.
Any help from someone?
I took came here to make opera 10 my TF3D defaut (that opera 10 is AMAZING, not thing like all the others, untill Fennec comes out)
1) Cannot select opera 10
2) I have to click twice for IE to launch, to be more precise, it launches One in Two. Weird
Otherwise, great great app
Ok I found a way to get opera 10 Working!
Just install rename the Opera 10 folder in Program Files Skyfire and rename the Opera10-armv4i.exe to Skyfire.exe
Still when I select the Earth icon in tf3d, it opens Opera 10 one out of two times...i really have to figure that one out :/
EDIT: I take that back, it doesnt do the one one two thingy with opera 10. Perfect, that whole opera 9 forced on me really bothered me.
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Great Work Man!
I would ask for one very small change that I would gladly make a donation for, and that I believe would address a fairly large niche that it otherwise lost;
people using cooked roms on X1 like 'Touch-it Xperience'.
Your program is the only thing among a sea of suggested regedits that can redirect my browser, nothing else works.
The small change I humbly request is for the program to recognize Opera 10 in it's default storage card path:
"\Storage Card\Program Files\Opera Mobile\Opera10-armv4i.exe"
Please !
I don't know what HTC did with Pocket Internet Explorer, but I've noticed that PIE looks a little different, and most importantly (for me) it is not launching Citrix when I need it.
Typically, I can go to my company's MyApps page and launch Lotus Notes or any of several other applications - at least that's what I did with my Mogul, my Diamond and my original Touch Pro...
Now, I tap on any of the icons, and nothing...
Any ideas, workarounds? What the heck did HTC do?
FYI, I have installed the latest version of Citrix (10.06) and that didn't help. I use PIE because the MyApps page never did display correctly in Opera or any other browser I've tried...
Thanks,
Sorry - I posted this in the wrong forum. Was so used to going to the Raphael forum and I should have gone to Rhodium!
Opera's latest beta of Mini is now in WM native code, so doesn't need java. It's really very fast.
Details at http://m.opera.com/next
Anyhow, I always used the java version of OM, and had a mortscript to make it the default browser for email links etc... so I've butchered the mortscript to work with the new non-java version of Opera Mini.
Some things to note...
The way it works, I couln't use mortscript to sebt ctrl-v to paste the url, so I used mouse control to bring up the context menu to paste. Therefore, it relies on the address box to be in a consistent place, so only works on QVGA devices like my Mega (Touch2) - for non-QVGA devices, someone will need to change the coordinates on the mouse commands in the mortscript.
It works on a new instance of OM fine, in standard mode and full screen. It works onto an existing instance of OM if not running fullscreen... the fullscreen mode seems to work strangely if you've scrolled down the page - I send a 'home' keypress' which in normal mode returns to the top of the page, but doesn't always in fullscreen mode.
So here's how my changes to the originl java om script work...
I run or switch to "\program files\opera mini5\OM5.exe" so make a copy of the current of executable called that - the executables seem to be named as the current release version.
Once OM is running, I send a 'home' keypress to get to teh top of the page. Then I send a mouseclick near the top to try to get in the address box, then I send one slightly lower down. This allows for both full screen and standard displays. If you're on a non-QVGA device, these will need adjusting.
Once I'm in the address box, I send four backspaces to clear the "www.", then I send a hold mouse command to bring up the context menu, and then a mouse click to select paste - again, non-QVGA is going to be trial and error...
I tried sending "#1" to get to enter URL, but it didn't work, neither did ctrl-V to paste!
I haven't modified the original installer, so you'll need to install the cab and then overwrite the mscr in \Windows with the butchered version.
This is just a quick and dirty workaround. Hopefully someone out there will be inspired to do a better/neater version, or at least create a neat installer!
can you learn me how to convert the Jar to cab?
thanx
Interesting. So what is the difference between Mini 5 and Mobile 10 now?
Opera Mini 5 Beta 2 for WM
"While Opera Mini traditionally requires Java, the new Windows Mobile version does not, which means the Java Virtual Machine (JVM) on the Windows Mobile device is no longer needed to run Opera Mini. "
*above*
hehe tell him what he really wants to hear...
ok i will...Mini is fast a f**k compared to opera 10..
only differene i have seen is the way you scroll though pages not as smooth at 10..
Indeed, I personally find Opera Mini 5 far better than Opera Mobile 10.
It's faster, more convenient, use less data, etc... And mainly it's faster, faster, faster
Opera 10 is definitely too slow compared to Opera Mini. I'm not patient enough.
The only thing Opera Mini is missing is Flash...
are you guys having slow scrolling when browsing pages too?
like if you compare the smoothness to 10 vs mini...
OK, first, this release is a crap. It's far worse than the java version. Some bugs till now: you can't login to certain pages, it doesn't work corectly with the SIP- if you press delete once the prompter will fastly go backwards and delete the entire text! So be carefull.A similar behaviour I encountered on the arrow keys: if you press once right or left the prompter will not jump a character, it will go at the begining or the end of the text. Also a friend reported that on his device this version of opera mini misses the exit button.
Too bad for this release, the browser in this stage is lame.
And stop comparing opera mini with opera 10. They are tottaly different, despite they look the same. Opera 10 does full browsing and opera mini uses servers to resize data before sending it to the phone, that's why it's fast.
The best browser I have tried for my mobile!
Finally I cand read the pages without a lot of zooming and adjusting.
So what is the difference between Mini 5 and Mobile 10 now?
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of course you know that all mini's are using opera server to generate smaller amount of data being sent to your devices.
it's whole secret of its speed and main difference(i wouldnt make bank transactions that way, generally)..
Okay this is confusing. I thought that the whole server resize thing was Opera Turbo, which comes built in in both mini and mobile now, right?
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Okay this is confusing. I thought that the whole server resize thing was Opera Turbo, which comes built in in both mini and mobile now, right?
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My understanding is that Turbo in Mobile is sort of a half-way version - I guess they are rendering images server-side and sending text for rendering on the device, or something like that. Mini is definitely much faster, and I haven't encountered any of the problems that other people are reporting about not displaying pages, input or anything yet on this release, having used it for a couple of days.
I guess if you use your winmo device for full web browsing, you're going to use mobile, but if like me you use it for email, surfing news sites, forums and message boards, then mini is just sooooo much faster, even with mobile turbo mode now available.
are you able to download attachments to your storage card?? is isn´t listed to select where to save.
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are you able to download attachments to your storage card?? is isn´t listed to select where to save.
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No, I've already reported that bug in opera forums.
hihi is opera link broken in this veR?
my seems to be
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hihi is opera link broken in this veR?
my seems to be
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Works on mine = check that your device isn't uppercasing the first character of your username or password
cant replay topics in this
i cant even search any thing in any site!
when i use a search engine (like google or yahoo) and press search on that page it wont search and just reload the existing page!
any body have the same problem?!
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i cant even search any thing in any site!
when i use a search engine (like google or yahoo) and press search on that page it wont search and just reload the existing page!
any body have the same problem?!
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No problem searching using the search from teh top of the page.
Can't post anything on forums etc, so it looks like the submit biuttons don't work.
I'm still finding it brilliant just for general surfing, and there's always mobile or the old java version to fall back on if needed.
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No problem searching using the search from teh top of the page.
Can't post anything on forums etc, so it looks like the submit biuttons don't work.
I'm still finding it brilliant just for general surfing, and there's always mobile or the old java version to fall back on if needed.
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yes but just it search's with google engine!
what if i want to search with yahoo or bing or...?!
i posted it because i was looking for a solution(if exist!)
thanks any way
For NEON 400 users only!
Please do not even consider flashing this rom unless your device is a NEON 400. That's the Canadian Telus/Bell version of the HTC Touch Dual. If you don't know how to find out the model number... then I suggest you do some more reading before you consider flashing any roms.
Hey All,
My old phone died so I recently became the proud owner of the HTC Touch Dual NEON 400. Long story short I unlocked it (Thanks to jockyw2001) and found that there are no Chefs out there with this device. There's a couple dedicated dudes out there trying to help all of us NEON 400 users (Talking about you Rataplan, deepankerjha), but since they don't actually have this device it's pretty tough for them to prepare and test a rom for us.
So, I took the plunge. With Rataplan's help (thanks a lot buddy, couldn't have gotten this far without you're help) I've been cooking away and have a solid WM 6.5 ROM here for us. It's based on the Telus stock ROM and WM 6.5 build 21914. I haven't yet cleared all the extra's (so it's a bit fat) but in my testing so far it's 100% functional and bug free (well, as bug free as WM can be )
I can't guarantee how well it'll work on the Bell NEON 400's, but if you have a Telus device, this should do the trick. I'm using it right now on mine.
Please leave feedback if you try this ROM out. I am still a novice chef, but I'll take feedback to heart, and I'll continue cooking and optimizing roms for the NEON 400 as I learn more and get better.
Happy Flashing!
I'll post updates as they come.
UPDATE:
Sorry all, but in my quest to migrate to the Android OS I've ditched my Neon in favour of the Vogue. I'll upload the Lite ROM I was working on for those who want it. The only thing I was having trouble with was the GPS, apart from that the ROM runs very nicely with the extra weight of the cube and other fat removed. Feel free to PM me if you have questions, I'll do my best to help if I can.
Give me a few days to do a fresh build of the Lite ROM and to take one more stab at getting the GPS working.
Okay my final roms are up. Hopefully Rataplan will have the links posted below shortly.
Lite Version: 1.01 - 1.03
-WM 6.5 Build 21914
-TouchFlo Cube removed
-A bunch of other bundled HTC/Telus packages removed
-GPS is still flaky
Version: 2.01
-WM 6.5 Build 21914
-Nothing removed, All stock HTC and Telus packages remain
EDIT I can't post links just yet, so Rataplan's going to help me out with that, check his post below for the download links.
Here are the links:
NEON400_201 Added 19th August
NEON400_Lite_101 Added 9th November
NEON400_Lite_102 Added 9th November
NEON400_Lite_103 Added 9th November
Loaded on my Bell NEON400. Took a while to get to setup and made a few bleeps along the way, now it's at the "Customization" part. Will update as I finish setup and test it out.
EDIT: Finished installation, looks pretty good, will test calling and texting as we go. Any chance we can strip the Telus crap out of it though? Hate seeing "Telus" everywhere when it's not even a Telus phone.
EDIT 2: Trying to set up ActiveSync to sync with my Google Account - it freezes every so often for a short while and won't respond to taps or key presses. Seems to be common in all applications. Also, the keys operate but the backlight never turns on for them (disregard that - they do work, see Edit 4).
EDIT 3: Hitting the X to close a window doesn't kill the app like it did in WM 6.1. Not sure if this normal behaviour or not (first time flasher).
EDIT 4: After a reboot the key backlight is working again. When I try changing the keyboard however to a full QWERTY layout the setting never saves and always reverts to the "touch keypad" or whatever it is (same problem in WM 6.1 so it's a setting issue not a ROM issue - disregard please).
If you could get rid of the Telus branding everywhere and see what's up with the freezing this ROM would be perfect!
Nice job.
got_milk, Thanks for testing on your Bell device. Like I said in the post I wasn't sure what to expect on a Bell phone. I'm working on a lite version right now with the Telus stuff stripped out. I'm also trying to remove the added weight from HTC like the touchflo cube (I really hate that thing...)
I've noticed the problem with the X button not closing apps. It seems in WM 6.5 it just sort of minimizes them. Although if I recall there's a setting somewhere that lets you set it so you can close an app by holding the X instead of just tapping it. I'll look into that some more.
In regards to the responsiveness one thing I've noticed is that when memory is low I sometimes have to tap and hold the buttons for a moment before they register. I initially thought it just wasn't reading the hits but found by accident that I could make it work by holding it for an extra moment. Hopefully this won't be a problem once I get my Lite version working.
I highly recommend downloading and installing Finger Keyboard. It's my favourite by far. I can't post links yet, but the thread where I found it is titled:
\\\\\\\\\ F i n g e r K e y b o a r d 2 ///////// v2.1 - NOW ONLINE - all resolutions
One other thought: If you could hook me up with the ROM you're using as the stock Bell ROM I could recreate this 6.5 ROM using it as the base. This might solve some of your problems too.
Thanks again for testing!
Not a problem, thank you more for doing this! I really hate how we're limited to WinMo 6.1, when we clearly have a 6.5 capable device.
I'm using the stock Bell ROM from jockyw2001's HardSPL post (stickied at the top of this forum).
Looking forward to the lite edition, I will certainly test it when you release it.
So, I couldn't stay away (Software Engineering student...lol). I set up my own kitchen and started to cook using a stock Bell ROM. I've managed to strip all the Bell crap + the HTC cube and make a nice clean ROM.
However!
I've encountered one bug so far. On the home screen, where "Text" should be, it's simply blank and clicking it gets me to the main Outlook menu (where I choose Text Messages or Outlook E-mail). I can also not create text messages or reply to them. I know we've hit this roadblock before but no one's said how they got around it.
I also don't have data working at all - it's not being configured automatically (I think the Bell customization wizard does this, but it's disabled).
EDIT: Okay, it's as I suspected. There's a connection.xml file that's part of the Bell scripts that is added to handle data access. Anyone know how I can add data as part of the ROM package?
For sms take a look at this post from 88fingerslukee,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6961719&postcount=49
Regards,
That registry edit is just enabling/disabling threaded SMS...in my case SMS doesn't work at all (I can receive and view SMS') but I can't create any new ones or reply to them.
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That registry edit is just enabling/disabling threaded SMS...in my case SMS doesn't work at all (I can receive and view SMS') but I can't create any new ones or reply to them.
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Okay, did you select webview in the sys-part of your kitchen.
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Okay, did you select webview in the sys-part of your kitchen.
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Yes, it's essential anyway so I get prompted if it's not included. It's not part of WM build 21914 however...
So I've tried with a bunch of different WM builds, new kitchen setups, and everything I can think of under the sun.
Data works out of the box - it's just not enabled by default. If you go into the comm manager and enable data it seems to work.
SMS is still broken. When it's not highlighted right above the text 'Text' it displays 'No notif...'. Highlighting 'Text' gives you absolutely no text at all and your option for that is 'View', which takes you to your call list.
I've cooked all day and yet I cannot get this to work at all. I'm rolling back to WM 6.1 until I can find a solution.
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So I've tried with a bunch of different WM builds, new kitchen setups, and everything I can think of under the sun.
Data works out of the box - it's just not enabled by default. If you go into the comm manager and enable data it seems to work.
SMS is still broken. When it's not highlighted right above the text 'Text' it displays 'No notif...'. Highlighting 'Text' gives you absolutely no text at all and your option for that is 'View', which takes you to your call list.
I've cooked all day and yet I cannot get this to work at all. I'm rolling back to WM 6.1 until I can find a solution.
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got_milk, way to go bud! Glad to have another new chef in the kitchen. I wont bother cooking a Bell ROM as you're already on track. My Lite ROM is gonna be a while anyway. Between wife, kids, job, and house... I just don't have a whole lot of time to tinker.
In regards to your SMS problem, I might be able to help. I too had problems getting SMS to work when I started working on my Lite ROM. After some trial and error what I found fixed it was to include two files from the OEMAPPS pkg.
Strip out all the crap from OEMAPPS you don't want and make sure that these two files remain, then include the package in your next build:
234f3319-55a2-46a3-be32-24530a643a0f.dsm
234f3319-55a2-46a3-be32-24530a643a0f.rgu
I'll be honest, I didn't do any research on the significance of these files, I just happened upon it by chance.
Good Luck!
Aha! I shall do another cook tonight and see if that does the trick.
EDIT: You sir, are a brilliant genius. I didn't have the .rgu version but the .dsm was there. Deleted everything out of OEMAPPS but that, cooked and flashed, and texting works now.
Thanks a ton!
Excellent! Glad I could help
So, my two bugs I've noticed so far...
No data. EV-DO is available, looks like it has to be set up manually. Anyone know how we can incorporate this into the cooking? I've tried ADC but it doesn't work, says it's not a valid Pocket PC application every time the phone boots up.
Also, the buttons along the top (sound, data, etc) work normally in the home screen, but enter any app and while the icons remain the same their functions have now been shifted one to the left. (Volume becomes Close, Data becomes Volume, etc).
When I first started a Lite ROM I stripped my Operator EXT packages. That killed my data. I put'em back to work on the OEM pkg's. I haven't had time to dissect the EXT packages yet to find the pieces we need for data. Whichever one of us figures that out first will have to share it with the other
For now I'm still picking through the OEM packages finding all the pieces I want/need to keep.
Not sure about your taskbar buttons, might be related to that handy tasks dropdown item that's usually on the far right (like a quickview task manager you can use to close running apps) I don't know if that's a WM feature, or something HTC bundled in.
That's an HTC bundled application (TaskManager.exe in OEMApps). I removed it and the bug's still there. You don't have this problem?
Data is handled via Connection.xml which is injected - somehow - during the "Customization" process. You CAN do it yourself manually - simply add a new connection and have it dial #777.
There's not much in the EXT packages - and what's there is impossible to tell for now, I'll dissect more and see what's there.
Strange, when I hit any of the buttons along that top taskbar it just opens up a bubble with icons for each of the options available, and then select an item from the bubble. Individually the icons along the top don't actually do anything for me, they all just open this bubble.
Right, which is the normal behaviour - it's when you actually select an icon from that bubble that everything appears to have shifted one position to the left.
Try it at the home screen and then in an application.
Also, looks like data is handled via "Connection.xml" which is placed inside the Windows folder (I'm back to stock 6.1 to check file locations). If I try to put that inside OEMApps or whatever and have that copy over though it doesn't end up in the Windows folder as far as I can tell.
I'm also trying to strip out the more unnecessary stuff, however, the camera always breaks and says the app is missing files to run. I can get rid of the cube, and everything else, but I'd like to leave the camera function behind (strips 30MB off the ROM if I clean everything else out). But the camera doesn't work.
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Right, which is the normal behaviour - it's when you actually select an icon from that bubble that everything appears to have shifted one position to the left.
Try it at the home screen and then in an application.
Also, looks like data is handled via "Connection.xml" which is placed inside the Windows folder (I'm back to stock 6.1 to check file locations). If I try to put that inside OEMApps or whatever and have that copy over though it doesn't end up in the Windows folder as far as I can tell.
I'm also trying to strip out the more unnecessary stuff, however, the camera always breaks and says the app is missing files to run. I can get rid of the cube, and everything else, but I'd like to leave the camera function behind (strips 30MB off the ROM if I clean everything else out). But the camera doesn't work.
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Ok it seems that you found each other, hopefully it will result in a perfect NEON400 rom, whish you guy's all the best and if I can help, just ask.
Some usefull links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564130
http://winbreak.com/winmo/voguegoodies/
Greetz,