sd backup or pocket backup s/w ??? - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

are these the same or different - can anyone advise which is the best
can you restore on a file by file basis or only a complete image restore??

well the pocketpc backup if i understand correctly what you mean
then thats backing up to the internal flash of the xda
this size is limited
but the sdbackup is limited only by the size of the sdcard
and with sdbackup you can also backup the ROM of your xda

MrBatch said:
are these the same or different - can anyone advise which is the best
can you restore on a file by file basis or only a complete image restore??
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SD Backup backs up/restore the complete image, while Pocket Backup will do both complete and file by by file. Go with Pocket Backup it the best by far and is what I use.
HTH

guys - thank you - pocket backup sounds best if file by file
thanks again

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Backup with Titanium or CWM??

i am new to all this but managed to flash kh3 and root it.
i paid for the pro version of titanium and backed up everything on my galaxy s2 but it backs up to SD. isnt this the internal sd storage and thus would wipe when flashed with another firmware?? i looked into the CWM that came with the firmware but this is just a recovery console isnt it?
i guess i need some guidance of how to properly backup but maybe i want too much. i really was thinking along the lines of a ghost image of everything even things like APN settings etc.
any help appreciated guys.
The sd card isn't wiped when you install any other firmware.
The recovery console has a backup/restore feature, it makes an image of the firmware and software that's installed on the phone.
when i clicked the backup part of cwm it took me to the recovery console where it had factory reset, wipe partition ( or whatever it said) etc etc, i didnt then see it do a backup?
cheers mate
marc.knuckle said:
when i clicked the backup part of cwm it took me to the recovery console where it had factory reset, wipe partition ( or whatever it said) etc etc, i didnt then see it do a backup?
cheers mate
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Sounds like you only have Recovery console & not CWM. If you had CWM, you would see tons of options.
I always have a backup of my current ROM in CWM it's absolutely essential in case things go wrong which they have on occasions, i also back up my apps weekly witt Titanium Backup and delete the previous backup.
marc.knuckle said:
when i clicked the backup part of cwm it took me to the recovery console where it had factory reset, wipe partition ( or whatever it said) etc etc, i didnt then see it do a backup?
cheers mate
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Which kernel are you using?
kh3 from intratech's thread.
i downloaded rom manger and did the top option to get the latest cwm i think but when i tried to backup it errored and i had to press home to restart??
I just use titanium, backup all my apps to external sd card.
Format phone or install a new rom, and just restore all apps with 1-click via titanium.
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chrisjcks said:
I just use titanium, backup all my apps to external sd card.
Format phone or install a new rom, and just restore all apps with 1-click via titanium.
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This is going to sound like a stupid question, but what the heck.
I have Titanium backup and it backs up to Dropbox. Now if I Flash a new ROM, how do I go about restoring the backup?
In WinMo I have a backup program that created a zipped up file of backups and a small exe file that unpacked and restored the files (complete restore, ROM upgrade restore, etc).
Should use both!
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fred_up said:
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but what the heck.
I have Titanium backup and it backs up to Dropbox. Now if I Flash a new ROM, how do I go about restoring the backup?
In WinMo I have a backup program that created a zipped up file of backups and a small exe file that unpacked and restored the files (complete restore, ROM upgrade restore, etc).
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Batch restore.
Left button at the bottom of your phone > batch
Restore all from there.
If you set your folder location to an external sd card, you can format or install a new rom and your apps wont be touched. You can do a batch restore of all your apps from within titanium.
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marc.knuckle said:
kh3 from intratech's thread.
i downloaded rom manger and did the top option to get the latest cwm i think but when i tried to backup it errored and i had to press home to restart??
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Well that's your problem, your using a stock kernel, use cf-roots kernel that has cwm already built in.
cheers guys
Combine titanium media sync with titanium backup and you are sorted.
I have set automatic backup once a week, all is then synced via dropbox when i connect my phone on charger. This way I also backup all the pics and videos I take.
One thing I was wondering is there anyway to have titanium and premiere key backed up initself....in the sense that whenever I restore I always have to go to market get the key and the titanium app then started restoring...maybe I could go to my storage install them from there then reinstall instead off faffing with the market?
apologies if this is a silly question
I have the key on my external sd card .
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Best complete backup program

Hi.
I want to find out wich is the BEST COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile phone program and if i can install it to an UNROOTED android phone.
I hear that clockwork is the best but i don't know if this program can work fine with UNROOTED phones because it suggest to install it only to rooted phone.
So please the persons who KNOW can answer to me with proof.
A LOF OF THANKS FOR ALL.
gotta have root for those backup programs.
Sync your contacts to Google and there you have a back up of them. Any paid apps from the market will always be allowed to be downloaded by you since you paid for them.
"I love my Springfield XD40"
So isn't there any program that it can do a complete backup of any android phone WITHOUT rooted or sing into google?
fits79 said:
So isn't there any program that it can do a complete backup of any android phone WITHOUT rooted or sing into google?
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Not that I'm aware of. What are information are you trying to back up?
"I love my Springfield XD40"
Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.
fits79 said:
Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.
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O...nope. your definitely going to have to root to have access to that.
"I love my Springfield XD40"
firstly you need root for any significant backup, withought it the best thing i would sujest is connecting your phone to a computer and just copy everything over, that will save most apps and things. But even with root i am not aware af any comprehensive backup app because there is so much to backup: ROM, Kernel, Contacts, Data, Apps as well as different locations where they are: OS storage, internal SD and external SD.
despite this i have found helpfull combinations of:
App Backup & Restore
Mobile Backup II
MyBackup Root
Titanium Backup
ROM Manager
some need root, some don't and some are partialy limited without root, but all were helpfull and have saved my rear a few times
fits79 said:
Everything so even the mobile doesn't open at all i can restore it and recovered at the position it was when i was make the backup.
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There is a way. Bring a storage device like a thumb drive and go into a sprint store or a radio Shack. They have machines (cellebrite) that can backup contacts pictures video and sd contents. Or you can do it yourself buy pushing everything to dropbox.
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thronnos said:
There is a way. Bring a storage device like a thumb drive and go into a sprint store or a radio Shack. They have machines (cellebrite) that can backup contacts pictures video and sd contents. Or you can do it yourself buy pushing everything to dropbox.
Shifted from Outer Space
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Yeah, that's not "everything". If you want EVERYTHING backed up on your phone, you're going to need root. Normal "copy everything off of the SD card" doesn't get you things like app data or preferences/settings (like ringtone and notification tone settings, as two out of a thousand possible examples).
Now, if your device has fastboot enabled and you have an on-hand recovery image, you can likely
Code:
fastboot boot recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.2-crespo4g.img
(make appropriate substitutions for your on-hand recovery image file and device), and then do a nandroid backup from there. Aside from the data written to your storage device (on-device or SD card), that shouldn't permanently modify your system in any way.
With the titanium backup that it work ONLY on a rooted mobile we can make A FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile.
And when i am saying full complete backup i mean(Rom, kernel, apps, settings e.t.c.) ALL the things that it has the mobile this time.
And after a change of rom or kernel i can restore ONLY the apps and settings to the changed rom/kernel?
A LOT OF THANKS.
fits79 said:
With the titanium backup that it work ONLY on a rooted mobile we can make A FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of any android mobile.
And when i am saying full complete backup i mean(Rom, kernel, apps, settings e.t.c.) ALL the things that it has the mobile this time.
And after a change of rom or kernel i can restore ONLY the apps and settings to the changed rom/kernel?
A LOT OF THANKS.
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TB doesn't backup kernel and its settings, widgets placed on homescreen, and certain system apps when you reflash same Rom. Only one way is a android backup which is same as an image backup in windows.
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So there isn't any program that backups EVERYTHING so you can restore it by choice everything you want....
Clockwork doesn't do a COMPLETE FULL BACKUP of any mobile?
I search one program that can make a A COMPLETE FULL BACKUP of any android mobile device like samsung galaxy s2.
Clockwork backs up your entire system. Including apps installed to sd card, but it won't backup info on your sd card normal storage (the one you can use a usb mass storage).
clockwork nandroid backup+regular backup of sd card = full backup of everything on your phone.
Of course, successful restore of the backup without modifications will only work in phones with the same model (no restoring a gingerbread backup of an htc device to an ics samsung device for example)
So clockwork can make a FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of entire monbile into an external usb har disk corrrect?
Then you can restore ONLY the apps if you install a custom rom to the mobile or the restore must be a complete and not a part of it.
A 'nandroid' which is done with clockworkmod or twrp or amon-ra is a complete backup...
Titanium backup does an app by app backup...
Titanium backup will also let you open the backup and pick out apps to restore if you use clockworkmod or twrp
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fits79 said:
So clockwork can make a FULL COMPLETE BACKUP of entire monbile into an external usb har disk corrrect?
Then you can restore ONLY the apps if you install a custom rom to the mobile or the restore must be a complete and not a part of it.
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Yes but not to a USB hard disk. You can chose from internal or externa SD card.
After that you can move it line any other file.
Pretty comon on flashaholics. They try a ROM and a few minutes later flash his entire system(nandroid backup) back.
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What is the twrp.
And the complete system backup you do with clockwork can toy restore ONLY the apps from this backup to a custom rom or kernel that may you have installed at the mobile like samsung galaxy s2?
Where is the clockwork and titanium backup topics so i ask here to.
A LOT OF THANKS.
One more time .. recovery=clockworkmod and does a backup equivalent to an image file in windows. You can save backup to pc, flash other roms and restore your user apps+data from titanium backups and start using. If not happy, restore cwm backup and it'll be exactly how you had it before. Do a nandroid backup, transfer to pc and look inside using winrar, 7zip etc and you'll see what it saves.
When flashing different roms you may or may not restore data from apps via TB as certain data may affect stabily, each custom rom lets you know. For TB best to gooble search their site for guide, troubleshooting, q&a.
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So bottom line is that i can make a complete full backup with clockwork and then can make apps restore with titanium backup correct?
If i leave the oficial rom and change the kernel then i have any problems from the apps restorations?
Nandroid does the full image backup everything, system, boot, apps, data just like windows image restore
Titanium backup for apps + data is great when using same apps across different roms .. read up on its site
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[Q] restore sms backup made with stock message app

Hello,
I was using WildChild custom rom for my WildfireS and created a SMS backup before flashing and moving to m1ndh4x8 ROM. In this ROM there is no backup/restore function though.
-How do I restore my messages? Can I upgrade the stock message app? Or is there any B&R app that can read the backup file? so far I tried many but non of them worked.
Thanks for your help.
maestro_mihagi said:
Hello,
I was using WildChild custom rom for my WildfireS and created a SMS backup before flashing and moving to m1ndh4x8 ROM. In this ROM there is no backup/restore function though.
-How do I restore my messages? Can I upgrade the stock message app? Or is there any B&R app that can read the backup file? so far I tried many but non of them worked.
Thanks for your help.
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Whats the file format of the backup u did is it a *.csv or a *.xml?
the file saved by the stock app doesn't have any extension. I tried to import it in excel but I can see only strange characters. I also tried to rename as *.xml and start the restore with SMS Backup and Restore but it says "Failed:Null".
Thanks for your interest.
maestro_mihagi said:
the file saved by the stock app doesn't have any extension. I tried to import it in excel but I can see only strange characters. I also tried to rename as *.xml and start the restore with SMS Backup and Restore but it says "Failed:Null".
Thanks for your interest.
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Hmmm
My stock sms does not contain resotring and backuping messages so i dont know if u want to be on the safe side the next time use super backup from the market
its backing up all ur sms contacs and the call log each one in a single file so u can easily restore
thanks, I restore the message in a very long way
1- i did a backup with CWM of the actual rom
2- I flashed the phone with the previous rom
3- I restored the sms backup with the stock messages app.
4- I made anotehr backup with SMSBackupandrestore
5- I restored the new ROM with the CWM backup
6- installed SMSB&R and imported my texts! Yeah..
Next time i will use directly third part software to do backup.
maestro_mihagi said:
thanks, I restore the message in a very long way
1- i did a backup with CWM of the actual rom
2- I flashed the phone with the previous rom
3- I restored the sms backup with the stock messages app.
4- I made anotehr backup with SMSBackupandrestore
5- I restored the new ROM with the CWM backup
6- installed SMSB&R and imported my texts! Yeah..
Next time i will use directly third part software to do backup.
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hahahah thats exactly what i had to do a few weeks ago but in my case i just lost one numer and had to do the whole procedure xD
Hi,
Just wondering if there is a solution for me here. I did a CWM backup before soft-bricking phone and now all is up and running again. I still have the clockworkmod folder on sdcard but no boot.img etc. I notice Titanium Backup is the paid version which offers the options mentioned here. Is there any chance of locating and recovering my sms from this cwm backup folder? TIA
I have a similar problem.
I have used stock message app for backup and tried to restore my messages after a factory reset of my HTC Sensation (stock rom). Backup file is 3MB big and I guess that is the "reason" why it keeps reporting that it is "Unable to restore messages".
The backup file is located on SD in the apropriate folder.
I tried with some old 768KB file and succeded. Sent 1 sms and did the new backup to be sure that folder is asociated with the app - everything is ok. Even though I have restored that 1 sms in order to test the restore function and the path to backup files. Everything works just fine.
Conclusion: The backup file I need is too big.
How to solve this issue?
Perhaps I could shrink it somehow or use another app to read the file? Any idea?
edit: I forgot to tell. Those messages are veeery important to me (business, love, contacts, etc...) so I'll try anything I can to restore them.
I guess I always ask some too dificult or stupid questions or am not being loved arround here
Sensation won't restore
pezzilla said:
I have a similar problem.
I have used stock message app for backup and tried to restore my messages after a factory reset of my HTC Sensation (stock rom). Backup file is 3MB big and I guess that is the "reason" why it keeps reporting that it is "Unable to restore messages".
The backup file is located on SD in the apropriate folder.
I tried with some old 768KB file and succeded. Sent 1 sms and did the new backup to be sure that folder is asociated with the app - everything is ok. Even though I have restored that 1 sms in order to test the restore function and the path to backup files. Everything works just fine.
Conclusion: The backup file I need is too big.
How to solve this issue?
Perhaps I could shrink it somehow or use another app to read the file? Any idea?
edit: I forgot to tell. Those messages are veeery important to me (business, love, contacts, etc...) so I'll try anything I can to restore them.
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Hi Pezilla
Did you resolve this issue? I did a factory reset of my HTC Sensation and have the exact same problem. File size is 2.3Mb. No problem restoring smaller files. I can't think how to reduce the size of the file because I don't know how to read it!!
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anbo1x said:
Hi Pezilla
Did you resolve this issue? I did a factory reset of my HTC Sensation and have the exact same problem. File size is 2.3Mb. No problem restoring smaller files. I can't think how to reduce the size of the file because I don't know how to read it!!
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Hi, I have a similar problem. I have an SMS backup file from my HTC Wildfire S. This backup file was created on the SD Card by my unrooted and unmodified phone. I then rooted the phone, and now run WildChild on it. I cannot restore my old SMS from the original backup file.
As mentioned above, I have a file with no extension.
How can I restore my SMS messages? What apps do I need and where will I get them. (Total Noob!!).
Thanks
jamsy said:
Hi, I have a similar problem. I have an SMS backup file from my HTC Wildfire S. This backup file was created on the SD Card by my unrooted and unmodified phone. I then rooted the phone, and now run WildChild on it. I cannot restore my old SMS from the original backup file.
As mentioned above, I have a file with no extension.
How can I restore my SMS messages? What apps do I need and where will I get them. (Total Noob!!).
Thanks
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I searched that issue very much, so sorry but no other application reads that stock sms backup You have to flash stock rom first, after that you can restore your sms.

[Q] Can I access an old backup to extract some files?

I am a newb here but learn fast so... Situation is, I have moved to Cyanogenmod9 and love it. I have done a lot of tweaking and arranging to my liking and am tired of all that. Problem is I need the info written on Snote files in the original ObjectionICS backup. Can I get inside that backup and extract those files or do I have to revert back to that backup, write down the Snote info I need, and then go back to the future..lol...and reinstall the backup I am making now, of C9? Also, will my "recovery mode" back up to internal sd card...return EVERYTHING to how it is now? I mean like disc image identical? Or will I have to reimport contacts, assign wallpapers, lockscreen widgets etc etc etc? Also, am I correct in making it back up "to internal sd card"? or should I have just hit yes to the first menu item "backup"??? Sorry if I'm being confusing or stoopid....
here this might help:
If you go to: wiki.cynogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Using_theRecovery (sorry but cannot post external links yet... )
Now if you used NANDroid backup then:
[NANDroid]A utility, accessible through Recovery Mode, that allows you to backup the device and restore to the exact condition at backup.
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If you used CWM Recovery to backup before you went to CM9 then I believe you can backup as it would only backup applications and settings of said applications also backing up system data like sms mms emails contacts etc..
I would really suggest checking out TitaniumBackup Root Pro
I would also suggest that you also get these apps as to help facilitate better tools for backing up stuff, managing roms, and just all around must need applications for your android phone.
ClockworkMod Recovery Pro as it allows you to switch ROMs and works good with TitaniumBackup.
root explorer file manager the best file manager i know of for android allows you to easily move files around the file system and change file permissions also checkout link2sd for linking installing apps to external sd and easy switching of applications to and from internal and external storage.

[Q] Install Custom ROM

I'll root my S3 and then will install a custom ROM, do I need to backup my existing ROM or I can flash it back by downloading it via the forums?
you can either:
-back it up with cwm recovery(making a nandroid backup) so that when you restore it,it restores to the way it was when you made a backup
or
-just flash a custom rom without making a backup.(Note:you can restore it to stock using the stock roms flashable available but you would have to set it up again like you do when you factory reset.)
Lither said:
I'll root my S3 and then will install a custom ROM, do I need to backup my existing ROM or I can flash it back by downloading it via the forums?
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Always make a full nandriod (use the toolkit) backup of your own ROM, a stock ROM won't restore your the efs folder and, if it gets corrupted during ROM installation can't be recovered.
backup your efs
in cwm, a nandroid backup is simply labelled as back up. it'll be in a zip file in the location of your choosing when it's done or in the cwm folder labelled by the date and time it is backed up.
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mputtr said:
in cwm, a nandroid backup is simply labelled as back up. it'll be in a zip file in the location of your choosing when it's done or in the cwm folder labelled by the date and time it is backed up.
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Thanks for your quick reply !
It should work like that and even more hoped it would work like that !
Instead of a .ZIP file, I get 3 directories under /sdcard0/ClockWorkMod : these are BACKUP, BLOB and DOWNLOAD.
On every backup, there is indeed a directory created in the directory BACKUP with the current date as name (like "2012-11-04.23.27.05").
The data in there can never be a full nandroid back, as it's only 18 MB (yes megabytes).
Here is a listing for example : (size filename)
> ..
8.388.608 boot.img
811 cache.ext4.dup
1.479.801 data.ext4.dup
237 nandroid.md5
8.388.608 recovery.img
289.833 system.ext4.dup
18.547.898 bytes
Notice the file extentions .DUP and their size for cache.ext4, system.ext4 and data.ext4.
I guess the real data must be distributed in the BLOG directory with it's > 2500 sub-directories and taking up 2.7 GB space.
The directory download contains some strange named files :
> ..
6.182.912 -1032133489
157 -1046604230
6.180.864 -1582411299
60.826 -2110140792
907 -750693690
4.846 102398884
2.263 1306009840
73.462 1487533053
630 386293678
9.153 426056750
747 488289109
12.516.767 bytes
Filenames are "random" numbers and all together only about 12 MB
I suspect it has to do with ROM manager, do you have ROM manager installed ?
The problem is that the only backup I have are these, so I can't just trash ROM-manager because I'm unaware of any other tool that is able to handle these backups.
What version from CWM recovery is displayed when a backup is started ?
weird... this is what it looks like in my nandroid back up folder....
it should look like this.
EDIT: i used CWM app to run the backup from the OS, but recovery should be the same
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So if I didn't make a backup and wanted to restore back to JB, I will have to setup everything again?
a backup is only there to "restore" you to the point that you made a backup. think of it as a failsafe.
EDIT: yes, if you did not make a backup, you'll just have to flash a stock rom of choice (assuming you're going to stock) and set up everything again (contacts, apps, messages, etc)
the current CWM has 2 options when backing up the files.you can either choose TAR or DUP.default setting is dup.DUP saves more space when you make multiple backups as it stores the core files in the blob folder and only updates the different file when you make a different backup.if you want independent backups,set it to TAR in CWM recovery>backup and restore>choose backup format.
LaZyDood said:
the current CWM has 2 options when backing up the files.you can either choose TAR or DUP.default setting is dup.DUP saves more space when you make multiple backups as it stores the core files in the blob folder and only updates the different file when you make a different backup.if you want independent backups,set it to TAR in CWM recovery>backup and restore>choose backup format.
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Thank you !
That must be why I could never make a single "stand-alone" NANDROID backup from my SG3 !
To eliminate any interaction from my ROM Manager, I uninstalled it using Titanuim Backup, as I've seen some posts saying that ROM manager doesn't work well with Sammy's, but I don't know for sure.
After rebooting, I went manually in to CWM recovery (the 3 button trick) and created a backup on my external SD card. (not on phone memory).
This is what I got :
An extra directory with current date as name was created under /mnt/extSdCard/ClockWorkMod with the files :
boot.img
cache.ext4.tar
cache.ext4.tar.a
cache.ext4.tar.b
data.ext4.tar
data.ext4.tar.a
nandroid,md5
recovery.img
system.ext4.tar
system.ext4.tar.a
system.ext4.tar.b
Total space occupied : 1.8 GB
Is this the "expected" output from a "backup" (I wanted a nandroid backup) from CWM ?
It seems that some .TAR files are 0 bytes and 2 files are then generated : one with a .TAR.A and one with a .TAR.B.
The file system.ext4.tar.a for example is is exactly 1.000.000.000 bytes, de rest is in system.ext4.tar.b
Note that I'm using the "Touch version 6.0.1.2" from CWM recovery (see method here by mskip (author from "The Toolkit v6.0 for SG3)"
Is this a so called "standard" NANDROID backup ?
Can this completely restore my SG3 to it's current state including all apps, settings,.... ? Obviously I can do a restore using CWM recovery (t least I hope so, but also using "The Toolkit" via it's ADB commands ?
Further, I'm also asking myself about keeping on to use ROM-manager or not, any experiences on SG3 with it (good and bad please) ?

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