1. Is it really that bad as a phone - many have commented on weak single strength etc.
2. Will I have to buy a serial connection/docking bay to connect to my NT 4.0 Workstation.
3. If I use the device as just a phone - no playing around - how long will it stay charged on stanby.
4. Will the headphones hat I get with the unit allow me to listen to mp3's and what is the quality like?
5. Using GPRS - if I am sending and receiving emails (pop3), obviously I have the filesize of the email to consider - but how much data will I transfer when checking for new email and downloaded lists of unopened email. What hidden bandwith will I use?
6. Is the OS future proof? Will microsoft dump the Pocket PC OS very shortly?
7. There is software out there that allows you to control yout tv and vcr etc. Is the infrared powerful enough - do you have to sit on top of the telly for it to work - It's not major important - but just interested?
8. I have seen some phones that you can put two sim cards in - can you do that with the xda?
9. Will software designed for tyhe ipaq work on the xda.
10. Is this a good deal - Device cost £199, o2 30 mins month £15, 5mb per month £12? Can I use another gprs provider??
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As someone also considering purchase in UK ..
11. How practical is the screensize / voice level to use the device with GPS in car such as tomtom navigator 2
12. Does unlocking software operate on W2K / XP ??
answers but only my opinion
1. useless if signal lost (search for my posts) in rom updated section.
2. can't answer this one as i use XP Sorry !
3. i have had 3 or 4 days between charges and if it keeps signal its ok.
depends on how much u use and talk though.
4. headphone quality is quite good for mp3 only problem is getting them to stay in your ears i have some foam boots off another set that help but they are still awkward.
5. you can set a limit on what u grab ie no file attach just headers etc so bandwidth u use will depend on ammount of emails and your settings.
6. who can tell what microsoft will do ? its future proof as long as they want it to be really.
7. infrared is kinda weak i found about 2 metres was my max with remote software.
8. maybe possible but the way it fits in i feel any mod would be ugly and easily damaged (liitle rubber door and a tiny microswitch that has to be operated would make this difficult (but who knows someone might do it) and you would also have to unlock it.
9. seems to work most ARM software unless there are harware rerlated issues to the ipaq like rotating screen or assigning buttons.
10. only you can answer that one for yourself do you feel its necessary at that cost and can u afford it ?? when unlocked i can see no reason at all why you could not use a differnet gprs provider as long as you had their sim in .
11. i have hooked it up to my gps reciever via serial cable with tom tom and it works but I dont now how noisy your car is :wink: its loud enough in my rover 400
12. maybe xda developers can answer this one for you?
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12. Does unlocking software operate on W2K / XP ??
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Yes it does. 98/ME/NT/2000/XP and possibly also 95. And it's likely to also run on newer versions of Windows.
Further developments to my questions.
Today I went to the o2 Shop - to answer some of my q's
One thing that struck me was that when he went on the web - he still had to dial/connect - I thought they were online all the time?
My 2c:
1. It's not totally unusable, but if you need good coverage in weak signal areas, this device isn't for you.
2. Yep, you need a serial cable.
3. Can't answer as I use the PocketPC stuff much more than the phone stuff, but with moderate PPC playing, it lasts the weekend out no problem. As with all other phones, if you know you'll be out of coverage for a while, turn the phone off to save the batteries being drained by the 'anybody out there' signal when the phone trys to find a cell.
4. I quite like the headphones. The quality of the device's audio is very good. If you've got a pair of headphones you really like, you can get an adaptor pretty easily. A cheap 2.5->3.5mm phono adaptor is fine if you don't need to use the answer button.
5. There's not much hidden bandwidth, WYDIWYG (what you download is what you get). I think the polling for new emails mich be a bit inefficient: it seems to download all headers each time, but I've not investigated this.
6. This is one of the great things about the XDA, the OS is pretty much standard, and updatable (although O2 drag their heels on this one), so it's reasonably future-proof. There's too much of an existing PocketPC userbase for the platform to be abandoned.
7. As answered above. I think there's an adaptor for the IPAQ that uses the phono socket to drive a more powerful IR, but out of the box it's just to weak to work well.
9. Surprisingly, most IPAQ stuff works fine. The overclock utility even works (as usual be careful, it can cause a hard reset). HTC makes both devices after all. The main gotcha is there are less buttons on the XDA.
10. That's the deal I'm using. They're all pretty much the same. O2s coverage isn't as strong as Vodafone in some areas, but at least they offer some form of device support.
GRPS, while often advertised as an "always on" technology, does require you to dial up. The new rom alows you to set it so it doesn't disconnect on powersave/incoming phonecall. Of course if you loose your signal, it disconnects.
Thanks
Thanks so far!
Hi All,
I jsu received a swapped M1000 for the defective one.
While chekcing the hwardware ID I see on the rear:
MN8BLUEANGEL and PH20B
Yet, this thing doesn;'t have a slide-out keyboard and is marked as being a M-1000. So do I now have additional option with this unit or not ?
Anyone here that knows this ?
I have seen that certain PH20B devices should have Wifi, but on the back of the unit this is not mentioned only the Bluetooth logo is there.
Any info or advice you people have is most welcome.
I was trying to use my X7500 for walking navigation and I am sure that the static navigation here is ON (during slow movement - less than 6 km/h is the change of location not detected or only in large steps). I was searching several forums than and tried several programs (SirfTech, GPSTweak, MMSirf, aplsirf, SirfDemo, BeeLineGPS) with no success. It seems like X7500 can not switch to Sirf mode. Do you have some experiences with this issue?
Thank you very much for your help.
erm....the GPOS chip in here is not a sirf chip, it's a qualcomm GPSone. I don't think it has static navigation.....
Qualcomm chipset? I am really confused - I was reading everywhere that it should be Sirfstar III. So, how is it?
I'm in the doubt too.
At the Dopod U1000 User Manual on Appendix A.3 Specifications at the second page of that section under GPS said "Chipset SirF StarIII with Ephemeris Extension support".
But on the Athena Service Manual (DOC-00026040) said nothing about what chipset is in the Athena. So I guess the GPS Chipset is one of the options the OEM has when asking to HTC for a Athena model (like HTC X7500, Dopod U1000, TMobile AMEO or others).
The Athena Service Manual is funny about this point since mention with deep detail the features of the GPS system like db levels for sample but doesn't mention the maker of the GPS chipset.
Related to the HTC X7500 Advantage I'm in the doubt of what GPS chipset contains. Even at www.europe.htc.com this point is no metioned neither in the web page nor the PDF you can download.
Best Regards,
mahjong
EDIT: Looking at Google many pages said X7500 has SirF StarIII GPS chipset but since that pages are not from HTC and HTC said nothing about it I'm still in the doubt.
Dear Mahjong, thank you for giving me just a bit hope. It would be a big dissapointment for me, if the chipset in x7500 is not Sirf.... does anybody have some more knowledge about this issue? Thank you for any news.
On page 233 of the Ameo manual and in the appendix section you'l read the following:
Chipset : SirF Star111 with Ephemeris Extension support.
Internal antenna : Yes.
GPS Receiver : 20 parallel channels.
OK, I am at home now and tried to open my manual also (at last) and there are the same data (SirF StarIII with ...etc.)
I hope, I can believe it. So the question is back here: how to turn off the static navigation of this GPS?
I tried also to ask directly at HTC support, but it seems to me that they even don't know what is it.... :-(
Any advice more than welcome....
My previous machine was an Mitac Mio a701 and since this was WM5 (like my X7500) got troubles with TT 5 and early versions of TT 6 that don't support properly the WM5 GPS virtual port option... which is linked with the ephemeris system.
The program I used to work in deep with the GPS was SirfTech. If SirfTech don't solve the problem... few more options you will have.
I was reading about the tests I did with my A701 and SirfTech and one thing I consider was improving the accuracy by using DGPS (WAAS). SirfTech helps me to activate the DGPS thing. Have you consider that.
SirfDemo is a great tool too. There is a tutorial in GpsPasSion related to SirfDemo and with a chapter dedicated to Static Navigation. Did you see it?
Is here: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25575
Well, by now this is what I can help.
Best Regards,
mahjong
EDIT: Have a look to this one: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39596 MMSirfSetup - MMSirf One click SN ON/OFF and on click WAAS ON/OFF
In the appendix.....
well bugger me....so it does! That surprises me. This thing is nowhere near as quick to pick up a signal as my old Artemis. I'm wondering if this is simply a case of whoever wrote the manual simply copy and pasted again, without double checking the facts. Lets face it, all the manuals in Dutch, Swedish, Danish etc all state that the device includes transcriber and letter recognizer and we all know that those languages dont! The only other GPS device that even mentions the GPS chip is the P3300 and it has the exact same info as at the back here.
Unfortunately, knowing what the device is like, and knowing what tends to happen when the manuals are written, i'm not so sure i believe it..
But in the meantime, until i can find out for definite, I stand (well, sit at a desk) corrected.
rhedgehog said:
Unfortunately, knowing what the device is like, and knowing what tends to happen when the manuals are written, i'm not so sure i believe it..
But in the meantime, until i can find out for definite, I stand (well, sit at a desk) corrected.
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Yeah but... if you don't trusth on the HTC user guide and fetaures... what else? You should open the X7500 to have a look inside... but anyway the model number could be erased from the top of the chip which is something many companies do whatever the reason.
So? The images of system board at HTC Service Manual don't show any chip with the well-known Sirf logo... but I insist this is a feature that the OEM decide.
Hmmmm... using SirfTech on my X7500 I cannot get Sirf data...
One point for rhedgehog
EDIT: I changed to Sirf protocol using SirfTech and now I cannot access any GPS data. Recerting the change to NMEA using the same program doesn't solve the problem. What a mess!!! A warning: This doesn't looks a Sirf to me so don't mess around with Sirf programs by now.
I will keep everyone informed... let see if I manage to come my GPS back into live.
You see rhedgehog? I learned the hard way. :-DDD :-(((
Uffff Done....
I power off the HTC by pressing the power for 3 secs... then I take out the battery for 1 minute or so.... then reinsert the battery... power on... and...
My OziExplorer display again NMEA data coming form the GPS.
HTC X7500 doesn't look like having a Sirf chipset... and doesn't looks a good idea kidding with Sirf setup programs on it.
Best Regards,
mahjong
Athena (same as most of the current htc lineup?)is supposed to have the Qualcomm MSM6275 gpsOne chipset
http://www.cdmatech.com/technologies/gpsone.jsp
Ok I got it.
My X7500 has a Qualcomm MSM 6275 chipset. This information can be found on the Athena Service Manual. If you access the Qualcomm website and looks for this chipset you will eventually reach this page:
http://www.umtschips.com/products/msm6275_chipset_solution.jsp
This page said that the MSM6275 chipset contains not only the 3G capabilities but the GPS (an A-GPS solution based on GPSone).
In that web page there is information (and a PDF file too) showing that this MSM6275 chipset can manage the camrecorder, GPS, 3G telephony, video and a looooong list of features. I don't knwo how the video stuff link with the ATI Imageon video chipset inside our X7500 but... just access the webpage and read it by yourselves... For sample the MSM6275 contains an ARM core 926 itself so our machine is kind of dual proccesor:
624 MHz PXA270-series ("Bulverde") XScale applications processor
Qualcomm MSM6275 baseband processor
Anyway the combination of Qualcomm MSM6275 and ATI Imageon looks quite common since has been used by HTC in many machines like P3600 and P3300 and our X7500.
So...
1) Forget about Sirf StarIII on our X7500 (and Dopod U1000, Ameos... etc)
2) A big bow to rhedgehog... You were right we were wrong.
3) A question to the manual makers from Ameo, Dopod and HTC... why you mention there Sirf StarIII???? I don't understand that yet.
Offtopic: Another finding... The HTC Kaiser is not running with MSM6275 like ours Athenas... is running MSM7200 which is newer and add support to HSUPA (an evolution of HSDPA) that is suppoused to improve the upload traffic instead only the download (the U and the D on HSUPA and HSDPA).
Best regards,
mahjong
mahjong said:
Hmmmm... using SirfTech on my X7500 I cannot get Sirf data...
One point for rhedgehog
EDIT: I changed to Sirf protocol using SirfTech and now I cannot access any GPS data. Recerting the change to NMEA using the same program doesn't solve the problem. What a mess!!! A warning: This doesn't looks a Sirf to me so don't mess around with Sirf programs by now.
I will keep everyone informed... let see if I manage to come my GPS back into live.
You see rhedgehog? I learned the hard way. :-DDD :-(((
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Only just came across this thread - if I had seen it earlier I would have warned you - we found out the hard way some months ago that the GPS doesn't like being treated as a a SirfStar III. There is a thread about this from several months ago.
mahjong said:
My X7500 has a Qualcomm MSM 6275 chipset. This information can be found on the Athena Service Manual. If you access the Qualcomm website and looks for this chipset you will eventually reach this page:
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A good source for detailed specs is pdadb.net - see PDAdb - Athena
It has the correct GPS details for the GPS.
Didn't HTC find that Sirf III used to much power so the ditched it in favour of the Qualcom set?
Maybe but the question is still there... Why they delivered the user manuals with such an error??? They shouldn't. I mean if you said this is Sirf StarIII and the you mess around with software and got your Athena "brick" you can blame on HTC because of the misinformation (hmmm... is that properly written?)
Best Regards,
mahjong
apd said:
A good source for detailed specs is pdadb.net - see PDAdb - Athena
It has the correct GPS details for the GPS.
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Not sure... looks at this three lines taken from that page:
Interfaces
Expansion Slots: miniSD, miniSDHC, SDIO
Serial: RS-232 , 115200bit/s
USB: USB 2.0 client, 480Mbit/s , USB Series Mini-B (mini-USB) connector
3 features... 3 errors.... You don't have SDIO slot in Athena. You don't have RS-232 interface. And as far as I know is not USB 2.0 but I doubt in this one. At least the USB host is 1.1 I'm sure about that.
But the rest of information is more accurate than other web sites.
Regards,
mahjong
Hi,
I've just acquired a 16GB WiFi only TPT, and my first thought was I'd stick a 3G modem in it, but I understand from the model number that its lacking the various antenna connectors to make this possible.
I'd still like to put the slot to use though. I've been looking at storage options, and I've seen a few different devices. One was an SSD (I gather that if anything was going to work it would ahve to be PATA, not mSATA, which is the same physical connector).
I've found various examples on eBay (sorry, can't post links, but a search for " ebay mini pcie PATA SSD " will give you a clue.
Another option I'd considered was a SD-card adapter, (again, can't link to it, but " ebay mini pcie sd card " should get you there).
There are 2 possible issues
1) physical space, I don't know what thickness of the 3g modules are, and whether either of the above would fit
2) drivers - although the SSDs in particular, should be pretty plain vanilla devices, whether there is support in the kernel for them remains to be seen.
Has anyone tried / considered something like this? Plan B is hunt around for a 3rd party 3G antenna set, but I haven't investigated this yet.
cheers,
Hugh
hughtc said:
Hi,
There are 2 possible issues
1) physical space, I don't know what thickness of the 3g modules are, and whether either of the above would fit
2) drivers - although the SSDs in particular, should be pretty plain vanilla devices, whether there is support in the kernel for them remains to be seen.
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I think the first one wount be an issue. the second should not be an issue, because most of these drivers should be in android. but i cant promise!
in any case you could create your own kernel with the driver inside.
i would give it a try, as long as its not too expensive.
[Q] CA-FI Dashlinq - OUKU - Unbranded 6.9" 2 DIN Android Car Stereo Radio Head Unit
Hoping to start a thread on this Car Unit, which boasts a bigger screen than the OUKU unit discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2110546
http://store.ca-fi.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=274
There are several versions and brands of this unit on the market. I've seen it under the name Yeamax, Advanz and Pixen.
Unfortunately the unit has the same crippled Android found on the OUKU unit, which is a shame because the potential is there. Maybe we can get some of the experts on here to get a vastly improved build for one of these units.
I have the latest S/W update on SD-card, but have no idea how to work with it. It is non-standard in 4 separate files with names such as "image_kernelfs, image_rootfs, etc.).
So, the first step would be to get Root on the unit. Anyone want to support this?
Have the same unit, did you get any news ?