Hi All,
I'm having a small problem with my XDA and the pocketpc2002 system.
there are certain files in my windows directory that are gorwing out of control. It has already taking up nearly half of all my internal memory and growing by about 50kb every day.
I dont know how to stop it from growing, nor can I delete them, as they are in the windows diretory and are locked. The files all begin with
"MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft " and have the following after it...
Broadcast Message SMS Protocol (Receive Only)
Notification SMS Protocol (Receive Only)
Raw SMS Protocol (Receive Only)
Status Message SMS Protocol (Receive Only)
Text SMS Protocol
WCMP SMS Protocol
WDP SMS Protocol
As I said these files are taking up about 15MB of space at the moment and If I dont get rid of them soon, I will probably have a serious system crash.
I need someone to confirm the roles of these files, what their typical size should be, is the normal, and what to do to correct it.
A Hard reset is not what I am hoping for... please help..
Gene
see the following link
http://www.ppcw.net/forum.php?forum=30&thread=272
posted by Arne Hess on ppcw.net for a full explanation
Regards
Tim
Well, the answer doesn't satisfact me, those files are not in ROM neither in RAMdisk, they seem to just be loaded in RAM as programs (they are dlls). I renamed one and restarted the phone, another one was created with the original name. The content never changes.
I wonder what they are here for...
It doesnt satisfy me either...
I cant beleive anyone in Microsoft would develop apps to hog 15MB of storage memory.
I have a good mind to do a hard reset just to prove the point...
G
According to MS, the file sizes reported are completely false and they do not take up that much space at all.
Hello all,
i have around 10 Files with the name above in my XDA some of them with a size of 260k and some with 1,65Mb. What are they good for or where are they from.
I can´t delete them and I don´t see them in the memory usage.
regards
miba
Huge MsgQueue.. files in Windows directory
I have the T-Mobile Pocket PC with just the built-in 32MB of RAM (256MB SD card on order...)
In my case there are a bunch of MsgQueue-blah-blah files in the Windows directory, 7 of which are 1.65MB each. Plus a 3.83MB file called "rsupgrade.cp64". That's about 15MB.
Unfortunately I don't have an answer, only an additional question... hopefully someone can answer us both.
Are these eating into my RAM or am I seeing files from ROM? I suspect RAM since they change periodically. Are they critical or can I delete them? If the latter, is there a way to limit their size or prevent them from reappearing?
T-Mobile Customer Care level-3 support was relatively clueless as usual, but they did suggest that I could do the following to determine how critical those files were:
1. Perform a backup
2. Do a hard reset
3. Check and see if the offending files went away
4. Restore from backup
If the files went away, then supposedly you should be able to delete them yourself if/when they reappear later. But realize that's just the CC guy's theory, and he didn't sound too sure of himself. I'm sure the regulars in this forum could provide a much more intelligent analysis.
Any help?
Thanks.
(some?) T-Mobile MDA's have an rsupgrade as part of ROM, as they perform a phone upgrade as part of a ROM upgrade. Which has really surprised a few people with the 'wrong' phone (900/1800 as opposed to 900/1900) as they then had to struggle to get phone functionality back.
You can try deleting the file, it no longer serves a purpose after the phone is upgraded. But if it won't delete, I would suspect it's in ROM, and in that case it's not bothering you.
Odd
Emboldended by your advice (Peter Poelman) I prepared to delete the rsupgrade file by first backing up through ActiveSync. However, after doing so, the offending file was gone. Stranger yet, I don't think I reclaimed any memory as a result... (hadn't recorded "before" amount yet - was going to do that after backup. But I think I would notice a 4M difference)
Well, either way, that's one down... Could you (or someone) comment on the MsgQueue* files? They all seem to be SMS related. How MicroSoft could justify allocating nearly *half* of the unit's available ram for some SMS caches is beyond me... Well, for M$ I guess it's not surprising, given the alleged unholy alliance between M$ and the RAM industry.
these files are actually in ROM, not RAM but it's impossible for the end user to know that from the properties of the file. Likewise, according to microsoft, those files are not reporting what is actually being used, it may say 1.7megs but it's not really. Per MS, do not try to delete these files as doing so would render the device broken. I think they have to do with the messaging portion of the PPCPE.
Thanks
Useful info, thanks.
Sorry to make a whole new thread about this, but just curious if anyone else has been having this 'issue'
ive flashed quite a few of the roms on the forums, and for some strange reason, i cant seem to find a rom which just WORKS
the main thing i use my handset for is email and SMS messaging, in any given month easily 4000+ SMS' will be sent and the same number received.
this for some reason appears to 'break' a lot of the rom's
the phone slow's riiiight down and when exiting one conversation to go to the next, it hangs every single time, when i go to select the messaging application, it just hangs, or doesnt even go in at all.
i've used the Energy roms, the Chrome roms, Da_G's clean rom, NATF's roms
i've been through pretty much all of the rom's on here and they ALL break once the SMS count gets in the 3000+ region, and i appreciate its simple to just 'delete' the messages, but this isnt particularly practical, at the moment i'm having to hard reset every month or so and this really takes the piss
can anyone point me in the direction of a nice lean rom that can handle an obscene amount of SMS' and emails?
with thanks
I guess no one send and receive 4000+ SMS' per month except you
that's why nobody tried to check with this issue
but the phone should be able to handle it! i mean, one of my older nokia's can handle the 4000+ with ease
The microsoft SMS program just cannot handle that many of messages. Either back them up (remove from inbox) periodically, or delete them periodically.
you may want to disable sms conversation (threading).
just out of curiosity, why do you need 4000+ sms a month ?
one question... where are your messages stored? in phone memory or on the storage card?
Pampilius86 said:
one question... where are your messages stored? in phone memory or on the storage card?
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for the email, the attachments are stored on storage card
otherwise, i never knew we could change where SMS's are stored?!
the 4000+ sms's are just what i use tbh, thats on a good month tho, usually hovers around that mark however
i remember back in the wizard/hermes time clean rom's were all the rage, now, since we've got the devices with huge amounts of ram/rom all we're seeing is bloated rom's!
bursucul said:
you may want to disable sms conversation (threading).
just out of curiosity, why do you need 4000+ sms a month ?
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the thing is, i use the threading facility a LOT, back before wm6/6.1 i actually had an application i would install on my ppc to have the SMS' threaded
but to be honest, why should the tp not be able to handle that many SMS's without slowing down?!
duke_stix said:
Sorry to make a whole new thread about this, but just curious if anyone else has been having this 'issue'
ive flashed quite a few of the roms on the forums, and for some strange reason, i cant seem to find a rom which just WORKS
the main thing i use my handset for is email and SMS messaging, in any given month easily 4000+ SMS' will be sent and the same number received.
this for some reason appears to 'break' a lot of the rom's
the phone slow's riiiight down and when exiting one conversation to go to the next, it hangs every single time, when i go to select the messaging application, it just hangs, or doesnt even go in at all.
i've used the Energy roms, the Chrome roms, Da_G's clean rom, NATF's roms
i've been through pretty much all of the rom's on here and they ALL break once the SMS count gets in the 3000+ region, and i appreciate its simple to just 'delete' the messages, but this isnt particularly practical, at the moment i'm having to hard reset every month or so and this really takes the piss
can anyone point me in the direction of a nice lean rom that can handle an obscene amount of SMS' and emails?
with thanks
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I dont think this would be the ROMs fault. You see the more messages you store in your fone the less memory and stability it has. Instead of having old messages in your fone why not delete them? Talk about practicality, whats practical about having old messages in ur fone just to take up excess memory? So someone texts u one question, u answer it and have no intentions of messaging them back, yet its more practical to keep these messages in ur fone and then complain that u have to hard reset instead of deleting a few messages due to having all these redundant mesages that u really dont need? Seems to me an intelligent person would rather delete a few messages rather than hard resetting their device and lose everything. Maybe u can make a fresh ROM with no extras and nothing more than a fone and an email device. I mean, why have a PDA if all ur gonna do is text and email? Seems to me u can save a few hundred bux and just get a cheap lil fone that has no customization whatsoever to leave all the room for messaging? Sorry if I sound like I have an attitude, honestly I dont, I just think that the chefs u mentioned have awesome ROMs that keep getting better and better yet u diss them cuz ud rather hard resest and lose everything rather than simply deleting a few hundred messages that u dont need anyway.
It's like if you don't clean your house regularly and just throw your rubbish everywhere, then you complain that you're living in a pig sty and your house fills up with rubbish so fast you can't move around the house as quickly as you used to. Then after a month, you need to fully renovate the whole interior of the house again so that you have space to walk...
My suggestions :
1) start learning some housekeeping(make that little effort to delete the sms yourself)
2) get a bigger house (new phone with more ram and faster CPU)
3) get a cleaner to come in to clean your rubbish once in awhile (there might be some sms program out there that can auto delete your sms on a regular basis)
4) or reorganise the layout of your house so that it's more efficient (forget about sms threading and use the conventional format, I'm sure it'll speed things up a bit since it doesn't have to load the entire conversation everytime)
duke_stix said:
but the phone should be able to handle it! i mean, one of my older nokia's can handle the 4000+ with ease
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Is your older nokia using sms threading and displaying the whole history of the conversation everytime you enter the inbox?
I highly doubt it.. so you've got your answer there already.
I used to be a project manager, I would send about 500 emails a day at work easily. After a month of working it would take FOREVER to open outlook. Thats because it has to load the entire contents of 10k + emails. Its the same with your phone. Back up and delete or don't complain. Flash a stock ROM and open your windows folder, and then flash a custom ROM and do the same. you will see the speed increase there. Also, if you leave SMS open and just hit end key it wont have to reload everything every time you open a message.
I have the same problem that your talking about since i average about 7-12K a month of sms.. Like everyone said the only way to deal with it is just to clear your inbox or put it to unthreaded.. Our phones just werent meant to hold that much sms i suppose..
duke_stix said:
the main thing i use my handset for is email and SMS messaging, in any given month easily 4000+ SMS' will be sent and the same number received.
this for some reason appears to 'break' a lot of the rom's
the phone slow's riiiight down and when exiting one conversation to go to the next, it hangs every single time, when i go to select the messaging application, it just hangs, or doesnt even go in at all.
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I believe most of the problem here is that you don't precisely understand what's going on behind-the-scenes. Your CPU/processor is only capable of running a single instruction at once- and thus only process a finite amount of data per unit time.
When designing an algorithm (in this case, the algorithm that reads SMS/E-mail database entries and displays them onscreen), tasks which apply to more than one or two items are usually completed by either iteration or recursion. For a task such as enumerating SMS messages onscreen, the process would be iterative; for example, if you were to break it down into simple steps, those steps might be:
1. Read the current SMS message from the database.
2. Display it on screen.
3. If there's another text message after this, repeat this process for it.
Step 1 itself actually is composed of several detailed steps, which take the time to perform a second algorithm, which tries to locate the current SMS message in the database, usually based on a unique identifier and a hashing algorithm. This takes time, but is faster than the alternative- which is to check each SMS and ask "is this the one I want?". Instead of having to check each message, the device usually only has to check a few until it finds the right location.
You can think of this as the device automatically categorizing messages into virtual 'boxes'- you have to spend a hell of a lot less time digging through a box to find 1 document out of 10 then by searching through a much larger heap of 4000 documents.
Step 3 is also composed of several steps, as the device has to figure out which SMS message is really next. As the user is capable of configuring the way in which the messages are sorted (by date, sender, etc.), the message that's next in the database is probably not the next message that's stored in the database. Time has to be spend finding the message, usually by yet another algorithm.
The problem is, each of these steps, and each of their sub-steps, and each of the sub-steps required to run those (all the way down to the machine code level) take time, and each have to be executed for every message the application would like to display.
Thread-view further complicates the matter by creating additional relations between the messages, and requiring the OS to look for even more posts during each step.
And this process isn't all that's going on at once- the operating system is trying to do something called TDM, or Time-Division Multiplexing (Multitasking), which allow you to run more than one program at once on a single CPU (which in turn can only do one thing at once). This basically lets the individual processes take individual turns so quickly that they seem simultaneous.
Because of all this, computer scientists rate their algorithms by degradation. We actually have a measure called Big-O (asymptotic) notation that tells you how well an algorithm handles load.
A good algorithm generally has performance of O(N) or better. This means that for every N elements (in your case, e-mail), it takes approximately N iterations to complete. Note the assumption that each "base iteration" executes in a (roughly) fixed time.
Assuming the WM message app uses a sensible algorithm (and it would be difficult for it not to), we can assume its efficiency is approximately O(N)- as it is simply O(N) for non-threaded, and it is O((N/S) * S) for threaded, which simplifies to O(N). This means that for every 4000 messages, it will need to iterate 4000 times.
Considering the application can't store 4000-messages worth of data, it spends a lot of time during each iteration moving messages in and out of memory.
Given all of this, the Windows Mobile message parsing algorithm is the cause of your 'slowness' and 'hangups'. These periods of non-responsiveness are simply WM trying to run through the algorithm for all of the huge quantities of messages.
Hence, the problem is that Windows Mobile simply wasn't designed to bear the load you were forcing it to bear. This means the problem isn't related to the implementation in any given ROM.
can anyone point me in the direction of a nice lean rom that can handle an obscene amount of SMS' and emails?
with thanks
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A ROM isn't going to be your solution- every ROM uses the same core Windows Mobile messaging applications.
It is possible that a combination of a data structure and message parsing algorithm (with the addition of hash and cache optimized for the way you specifically use messaging) could handle all of these messages without any considerable degradation; but it would run far less efficiently on small amount of messages than the current WM scheme. (And think: how many users have as many messages as you?)
Since no one really needs as many messages as you seem to, consider your options:
1) Implement a database optimized for large amount of messages. Implement a program that hooks all messages and places them in this database instead of the WM one. Write your own message reading/writing application and use in place of the WM one. Note that no one will do this for you. It's not a public interest: if you want it, you'll have to write it. We can help you- but we're not here to do the work for you.
2) Try a third party SMS reader/writer like Vito SMS-Chat. I don't think these will fare much better (in fact, they may fare worse), but if they implement any database of their own and any type of localized caching (especially of recent messages), they may work a bit better.
3) Remove your older SMS messages. This is probably the best option. If you don't need those messages anymore, a Microsoft applet called InboxExtender adds buttons to delete all messages (and to mark them all as read.)
4) Don't use threaded mode. This will decrease the time each parsing iteration takes.
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This isn't a bug; nor is it a glitch, nor is it WM being crappy. It's much the same as if you tell photoshop to open an 8GB file on your desktop. Your computer may slow to a halt and take forever doing it- but the cause isn't that your computer is crappy, but rather that you're trying to open such a huge file.
Wow! Talk about a detailed explanation. Great explanation ktemkin, u obviously know what ur talkin about. Im actually a part time computer programmer. The biggest problem I see/hear about is people sayng their systems are getting way too slow. No surprise that the biggest reason for this is the used space in their computers hard drive for out-of-date programs, used cache space, ...basically all of the things theyve used before and just never cleaned out. I install 1 program, free their computer up of its junked up memory and update their programs. On this I get credit to simply sit on my butt and delete a few things, lol. Id suppose regardless of the device/computer its all the same. IE, the more room u have to work with, the faster the device's responsiveness is.
Best advice for these PDAs and smartphones for emails is dont leave all of your emails in your inbox folder. Make different folders, then as u go through your emails simply move the selected ones to the selected folders. Then DO NOT sync all of your folders to your device. Only sync the inbox to your device. Then if u ever need a message, u will know which folder its in, then sync that 1 folder, download the message(s), then after ur done, remove that folder from your sync list. When u organize your emails this way u will have a much enjoyable and longer life experience with your device. Hope this helps.
panthersdzynes said:
I dont think this would be the ROMs fault. You see the more messages you store in your fone the less memory and stability it has. Instead of having old messages in your fone why not delete them? Talk about practicality, whats practical about having old messages in ur fone just to take up excess memory? So someone texts u one question, u answer it and have no intentions of messaging them back, yet its more practical to keep these messages in ur fone and then complain that u have to hard reset instead of deleting a few messages due to having all these redundant mesages that u really dont need? Seems to me an intelligent person would rather delete a few messages rather than hard resetting their device and lose everything. Maybe u can make a fresh ROM with no extras and nothing more than a fone and an email device. I mean, why have a PDA if all ur gonna do is text and email? Seems to me u can save a few hundred bux and just get a cheap lil fone that has no customization whatsoever to leave all the room for messaging? Sorry if I sound like I have an attitude, honestly I dont, I just think that the chefs u mentioned have awesome ROMs that keep getting better and better yet u diss them cuz ud rather hard resest and lose everything rather than simply deleting a few hundred messages that u dont need anyway.
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The fact of the matter is, that a lot of the messages on my handset DO need to remain on there for at least the remainder of a fortnight following receipt of said message.
the only 'qualm' i was having was that my older wizard and hermes devices seem to have managed that number of SMS' and more perfectly fine, but my Raphael begins to struggle.
lukesky said:
It's like if you don't clean your house regularly and just throw your rubbish everywhere, then you complain that you're living in a pig sty and your house fills up with rubbish so fast you can't move around the house as quickly as you used to. Then after a month, you need to fully renovate the whole interior of the house again so that you have space to walk...
My suggestions :
1) start learning some housekeeping(make that little effort to delete the sms yourself)
2) get a bigger house (new phone with more ram and faster CPU)
3) get a cleaner to come in to clean your rubbish once in awhile (there might be some sms program out there that can auto delete your sms on a regular basis)
4) or reorganise the layout of your house so that it's more efficient (forget about sms threading and use the conventional format, I'm sure it'll speed things up a bit since it doesn't have to load the entire conversation everytime)
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I have already tried disabling the SMS threading and although it speeds it up a little, i then also lose track of what message has come from whom.
i understand that 'doing a bit of house keeping' is what i should be doing, however, i barely have time to do said house keeping, and when i do attempt to delete a large volume of messages in one go the phone hangs on me again!
panthersdzynes said:
Wow! Talk about a detailed explanation. Great explanation ktemkin, u obviously know what ur talkin about. Im actually a part time computer programmer. The biggest problem I see/hear about is people sayng their systems are getting way too slow. No surprise that the biggest reason for this is the used space in their computers hard drive for out-of-date programs, used cache space, ...basically all of the things theyve used before and just never cleaned out. I install 1 program, free their computer up of its junked up memory and update their programs. On this I get credit to simply sit on my butt and delete a few things, lol. Id suppose regardless of the device/computer its all the same. IE, the more room u have to work with, the faster the device's responsiveness is.
Best advice for these PDAs and smartphones for emails is dont leave all of your emails in your inbox folder. Make different folders, then as u go through your emails simply move the selected ones to the selected folders. Then DO NOT sync all of your folders to your device. Only sync the inbox to your device. Then if u ever need a message, u will know which folder its in, then sync that 1 folder, download the message(s), then after ur done, remove that folder from your sync list. When u organize your emails this way u will have a much enjoyable and longer life experience with your device. Hope this helps.
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my emails are already pretty much organised, and i've only got it syncing the last 7 days for me, emails to be honest are fine its moreso the SMS side of things.
I was not complaining nor targetting any particular chef, i was merely voicing my concern that a device as powerful as the raphael seems to baulk at the prospect of a few thousand messages when the older wizard and hermes seem to manage perfectly fine.
i'm not exactly expecting an instantaneous loading of my inbox, i'm not entirely thick, i appreciate that having such a large number of SMS' will inevitably slow the handset down, however, i do not see why the handset should HANG when i try to open the messaging application, or why, when i try to go and open the messaging application it just doesnt register that i've asked it to open the application, just stops and i have to 'tap' it a few times before it opens.
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the main thing i use my handset for is email and SMS messaging, in any given month easily 4000+ SMS' will be sent and the same number received.
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4000+ sms' send AND receive???
so that means:
8000 per month / 30 days in a month = 266,667 per day
266,667 per day / 960 minutes (16 hours * 60) awake a day = 0,278
so say you are 16 hours awake on a day than you send/receive a sms every 15 seconds?? don't you have a real life?
TheWeird1 said:
4000+ sms' send AND receive???
so that means:
8000 per month / 30 days in a month = 266,667 per day
266,667 per day / 960 minutes (16 hours * 60) awake a day = 0,278
so say you are 16 hours awake on a day than you send/receive a sms every 15 seconds?? don't you have a real life?
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not all of the messages that are sent and received are single SMS' long!
majority, if not all will be 3/4+ messages long and the replies can be twice as long
duke_stix said:
The fact of the matter is, that a lot of the messages on my handset DO need to remain on there for at least the remainder of a fortnight following receipt of said message.
the only 'qualm' i was having was that my older wizard and hermes devices seem to have managed that number of SMS' and more perfectly fine, but my Raphael begins to struggle.
I have already tried disabling the SMS threading and although it speeds it up a little, i then also lose track of what message has come from whom.
i understand that 'doing a bit of house keeping' is what i should be doing, however, i barely have time to do said house keeping, and when i do attempt to delete a large volume of messages in one go the phone hangs on me again!
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1 thing's for sure, the wizard and hermes are definitely non-threaded sms. But it's hard to compare apple to apple. Did you have 4000 in your Inbox and Sent folders on your Wizard and Hermes too?
I don't think the phone has hung, it's probably doing the processing for you. Have a little patience and let it sit there for awhile and do it's thing and see if it's really hanged.
duke_stix said:
my emails are already pretty much organised, and i've only got it syncing the last 7 days for me, emails to be honest are fine its moreso the SMS side of things.
I was not complaining nor targetting any particular chef, i was merely voicing my concern that a device as powerful as the raphael seems to baulk at the prospect of a few thousand messages when the older wizard and hermes seem to manage perfectly fine.
i'm not exactly expecting an instantaneous loading of my inbox, i'm not entirely thick, i appreciate that having such a large number of SMS' will inevitably slow the handset down, however, i do not see why the handset should HANG when i try to open the messaging application, or why, when i try to go and open the messaging application it just doesnt register that i've asked it to open the application, just stops and i have to 'tap' it a few times before it opens.
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Maybe you should try Da_G's test ROM.. the feedback is that it's very fast. If that doesn't work for you, it's time to get a new phone.. maybe consider one of the 1GHZ models...
i have 8000 plus messages on my tp n it doesn't slow down
thing is, i don't use threaded sms. can't get used to it cos i've been using wm since wm5 n it doesn't have it. i guess i got used to the older stuff
My Galaxy Nexus and Transformer Prime both stop recording at a 2gb file size, is this true of all android devices? Is there any way around it, an app or something? I've tried a couple that didn't work but maybe I missed one that does. I'd like to be able to record at 1080p until the memory card is full. Any help is much appreciated.
I am not exactly sure if this is true for all, but my htc evo 3d is also limited to 2gb.
I've seen conflicting reports, some say 2gb limit, some say they can record until card is full. I'm starting to think nobody can get passed 2gb.
Well in any case you won't be able to record continuously till the SD card is full, because Android uses the fat32 file system for SD card which has a maximum limit of 4GB per file. But 2GB, that's weird, I would think that they at least limit it somewhere near the maximum. Maybe their intention was to keep it at a safe limit to avoid data corruption or something. Plus the Galaxy Nexus has a unified storage (no SD card) which runs the ext4 file system, and that has no small limitation on file size like fat32. So yeah, seems pointless to have a 2GB cap.
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It doesn't make much sense, both the prime and Gnex can save file sizes above 4gb so I dont think they are formatted in fat32. There has got to be a way around it but I haven't been able to search it out.
Yeah, they're not fat32. They're formatted to ext4. I mentioned that previously. Stumps me too why the video size should be limited.
I'm guessing there are some custom ROMs which have this limit increased/removed? Try to search in the development section of GNex forum to find any posts related to this.
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It doesn't make sense, bump one more time to see if anyone knows a way around this.
As sashank said FAT32 normally is limited to 4GB. I read somewhere, that integer which stores size is type unsigned int, so it has range from -2GB to 2GB.
So can galaxy nexus have the FAT32 limit removed on the camera, as it is ext4? Surely, someone has done this.
Did anyone tested video recording on the Nexus 4 ? Does it go over the 2GB limit (on an external EXT card) ?
Has anyone figured out a solution for this? I want to record long videos with the phone fixed at a position. But for me too the size doesn't go above 2gb. I am using a Galaxy Nexus running 4.2.2.
And sorry to bump an old thread.
AbhishekS said:
Has anyone figured out a solution for this? I want to record long videos with the phone fixed at a position. But for me too the size doesn't go above 2gb. I am using a Galaxy Nexus running 4.2.2.
And sorry to bump an old thread.
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I'm having the same problem. I'm using GS3 i9305 with cm10.1, and the video recording stops at 2GB, full hd 1080p. In stock rom though, the video stopped at 4GB, and showed the message "maximun size reached" or something. I've tried 3rd part apps like Camera JB+ but nothing, it stops at 2GB.
I can transfer files bigger than 4GB to the phone though without any problems (I tried with an 8GB iso file), so I don't know what the problem is. I'm using the internal storage only, no sd card...
also would like a solution for this.
im having the same troubles with my lg thrill 4g.
would be nice to have something automatically split the video file into 2gb chunks as your recording and i could then stitch them together later..
(and no restarting the camera after it auto stops recording wont work as you miss several seconds of whatever it is you are filming )
finally found this thread full of posts from people facing the same dilemma and looking for answers. apparently, there isn't a great deal of interest in the scene for overcoming this limit, judging by the limited amount of threads and discussion on this issue and the fact that there isn't some customisations, mods, roms etc that include element that allow the video recording limit to be exceeded.
it is telling in a way, that the majority of smartphone users never bother or care enough for the issues to be raised and discussed more extensively in the community.
same oroech
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i am still looking for solution the buildin camera apk, but if you are interested in third party apk then visit my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485063
all apk can record unlimited size and duration so it is the camerabuild in restricted from recording over limit and it is nothing to do with fat 32 format, because if it is why other 3rd party apk will work with no issue but i prefer the build in cam apk that is why i like to see solution for that and that is only possible by programmer to decompile . modify and recompile it again, i tired to decompile myself to see if i can get my head around, but i get error when decompiling it while i can decompile some other apk with no problem.
thank you
i think, it's the way how the apps create the file. The Camera app is recording in it's virtual memory backend. And as you know, a 32bit proccess can't allocate more than 2gb ram. I tested several dashcam software and they all crashed while reaching 2GB of recording data. Those apps let you choose to save the record to chunks of x minutes.
just my thought.... maybe i'm completly wrong
TrusterX said:
i think, it's the way how the apps create the file. The Camera app is recording in it's virtual memory backend. And as you know, a 32bit proccess can't allocate more than 2gb ram. I tested several dashcam software and they all crashed while reaching 2GB of recording data. Those apps let you choose to save the record to chunks of x minutes.
just my thought.... maybe i'm completly wrong
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Probably this particular issue is not technical, although next to that there would be the 4GB limit on FAT32.
It seems that this is an Android limitation imposed due to legal reasons or financial ones, depending how you look at it.
There are several articles on this issue but not just Android, it covers all digital cameras, they have a 30min. recording cap which usually falls on the 2GB limit for most standard Android devices. This is due to a taxation on video recording devices which I'm guessing have one class for less than 30min. continuous recording time and a different class for greater than 30 min. continuous recording time.
According to a few articles I've read, the Word Trade Organization has specified these parameters in their Information Technology Agreement.
Google must have capped this to prevent a bigger taxation on the devices than it already is. I'm guessing the average person doesn't need more than 30 min. of continuous video but even if they do they just have to press 'recording' again. Of course that doesn't change the fact that this thread exists because some people really want the continuous and automated recording to go beyond 30 minutes. I wonder if some Android guru is able to find anything on Android kernel where this is set up as a limitation. Would be awesome to defeat the WTO with one line of code.