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someone say this
"When bonding my Motorola HS810 b/tooth headset it asked if I wanted to add it using 'Hands Free' profile. This is also an option from the bluetooth settings in the Connections section of Settings"
IS this for real ?? 'Hands Free' profile on Win2K3 SE
Only Headset profile, no handfree (Jabra250, did the tap and hld and all).
BT GPS works (Belkin).
BTtools not installed.
cpz21 said:
Only Headset profile, no handfree (Jabra250, did the tap and hld and all).
BT GPS works (Belkin).
BTtools not installed.
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sorry cpz21 are you saying no to Motorola HS810 ?? or no to Jabra250?
Have had the same issue with my BlueTrek G2 which supports both HandsFree and Headset profile.
But the odd thing is I can't choose for the Headset profile only the handsfree profile is available.
Another thing I saw was that in the Handsfree profile the bluetooth communication traffic is high. So I'm wondering if this will affect my battery life.
Regards,
Mark
markutah said:
Have had the same issue with my BlueTrek G2 which supports both HandsFree and Headset profile.
But the odd thing is I can't choose for the Headset profile only the handsfree profile is available.
Another thing I saw was that in the Handsfree profile the bluetooth communication traffic is high. So I'm wondering if this will affect my battery life.
Regards,
Mark
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NOt sure, need to grap my HBH660 soon to test only know
but I on my BT the whole days which also make & receive 15+ calls per day, and normally at night is only use 25%+ of the battery on my Win2k3 SE CH ROM
But the same things, on Eng ROM 2.02&2.06 which use around 45% of my battery
markutah said:
Have had the same issue with my BlueTrek G2 which supports both HandsFree and Headset profile.
But the odd thing is I can't choose for the Headset profile only the handsfree profile is available.
Another thing I saw was that in the Handsfree profile the bluetooth communication traffic is high. So I'm wondering if this will affect my battery life.
Regards,
Mark
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that is good news which pair , bond to Handfree not headset
so what software you using it together to try/test to dial out? 8)
that is good news which pair , bond to Handfree not headset
so what software you using it together to try/test to dial out? 8)
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Sorry but I don't know what you mean.
If I understand it correctly then my answer is: No specific software just the standard phone interface.
If I'm wrong the please clearify what you exactly mean.
Regards,
Mark
so you never use any 3rd party software
to dial out using your BT handfree profile
yes/no??
press some button on your BT headseat then dial
yes/no ??
@darren the
darren_the said:
sorry cpz21 are you saying no to Motorola HS810 ?? or no to Jabra250?
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Only to the Jabra, have not tested/(don't have ) any other BT headsets.
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so you never use any 3rd party software
to dial out using your BT handfree profile
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No not using any third party program to dial out. Only the standard one.
press some button on your BT headseat then dial
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Yes pres the talk button on my headset to redial the last called number.
(previously bluetooth tools was needed for this kind of functionality, now it works without bluetooth tools)
There is no functionality to select a number from a list.
Regards,
Mark
ok, great, cause I read somewhere
people say (not 100% confirm) can press button, then say something like Dial to whoever, or whatever
nice, Xmas getting my self a HBH660 to try/test
I came across this on MyXDA website and maybe this is the reason why we facing difficulty to have both headset and handsfree profile rather than choose only one profile
MyXDA FAQ:
Can I put my bluetooth headset to handsfree ?
The Xda II supports bluetooth headset but not hands free. This means you cannot voice activate commands hands free with your bluetooth headset, even if the headset supports hands free. The Xda II does not support hands free bluetooth profile.
Comment or perhaps solution please...
Hi,
I ve been working in this issue for a couple of days, since I got HBH-200 blutooth headset. This type of headsets require Hands Free profile in order to activate its Caller-ID functionality. Unfortunately, non of the available ROMs in the market got this option, except one. It is ROM WE2003SE 2.2. This is a Chineese version translated into English. This version give you the hand free profile you are looking for, and it works. But this version in it self got lots of bugs. Still looking for one of the great programers in here to get the difference in WE2003SE 2.2 and other versions, which let the hand free profile works.
Hope one of them read this and start working on it.
Hi ilmans,
Try looking at post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16916&highlight=sin+merge
Hope it helps you as it did to me. Handsfree working 100%.
handfree profile
you will find the hand free profile in this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sin+merge&start=25
Hello everyone,
I have tried the two reg patch by Sin () to add the Handsfree profile to my Qtek 2020 (with WM2003SE). I use the very good Bluetooth headset by Globalsat BTH-808, and I have seen these things:
- When in Headset mode: the blu BT Led on the Globalsat flash one time per second. If one call incomes, an icon on the top bar light on in my Qtek and I can use the Globalsat to answer the call, or I can transfer audio back to Qtek and use it to answer the call.
- When in Handsfree mode: the blu BT Led on the Globalsat flash three time per second (awful). An icon noticing the HF Profile is ever on the top bar (with or without a call incoming, and this is not good, i think). If one call incomes, I can use at the same time the Globalsat or the Qtek (audio comes out from the Qtek and from the Globalsat).
Where is the good useful way of this? Why do I need the Handsfree profile too? to make voice dialing (adding relative software)? I didn't liked it and I disabled back the HF profile...
Can someone explain to me how the Hadsfree profile is good?
Thank's
facts
Hands free mode is great when using the right OS.
hands free is more robust. It offers caller ID, etc.
Headset will not do caller ID but I believe it may offer better battery life.
Also with your 2.02-2.06, you will notice while in hands free that the mic on the headset does not work, only the one on the phone.. Even though you can hear sound on the headset!!
If I am wrong, please tell me.
One OS that supports Hands free is the 2.20 translated or in original Chinese. But the caller ID is not consistent on some if not all devices. The caller ID will not be displayed if you have already received the call or if it is in your contacts. It also has some bugs when someone calls on the call waiting and you switch over to it, you will loose the sound on both the headset and the phone until you turn off hands free and then back on.
The other OS, 2005, is GREAT with the Hands free and the phone program, no bugs AT ALL with bluetooth and the phone, BUT, the contacts, email and calendar database are different so it will not work with many programs and the memory size is messed up and small.
I am switching back to my 2.20 translated today.
I wish someone wuld fix it.
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Hands free mode is great when using the right OS.
hands free is more robust. It offers caller ID, etc.
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Hmmm, no... with my device (Qtek 2020, aka XDA II/MDA II and WM2003 SE 2.06) the CallerID works great with either Headset profile and Handfree Profile...
ccrrazzzy said:
Headset will not do caller ID but I believe it may offer better battery life.
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Yes this is real: Headset is more light for battery life cause it lets BT headset to go online only during call incoming...
ccrrazzzy said:
Also with your 2.02-2.06, you will notice while in hands free that the mic on the headset does not work, only the one on the phone.. Even though you can hear sound on the headset!!
If I am wrong, please tell me.
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According to me you are wrong, cause my device have the headset mic working in either Headset and Handfree profile. The only practic difference between the two profiles are that HS goes idle and come online only during call incoming, instead HF is online not stop.
ccrrazzzy said:
One OS that supports Hands free is the 2.20 translated or in original Chinese. But the caller ID is not consistent on some if not all devices. The caller ID will not be displayed if you have already received the call or if it is in your contacts. It also has some bugs when someone calls on the call waiting and you switch over to it, you will loose the sound on both the headset and the phone until you turn off hands free and then back on.
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Again... with my device all works fine, but I don't like the headset all time in waiting/online modem with its led blinking speedly and the boring icon on the top bar (so if you miss a call or receive a sms, you see the baloon tooltip to advice you that more than 1 alert are waiting). I don't know about your bugs cause I never tested these cases
ccrrazzzy said:
The other OS, 2005, is GREAT with the Hands free and the phone program, no bugs AT ALL with bluetooth and the phone, BUT, the contacts, email and calendar database are different so it will not work with many programs and the memory size is messed up and small.
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I am yet not happy about the WM2003SE 2.06WWE speed on booting and its stability... so I will not go further on with Magneto/WM2005... When I will be able to do, I will buy a new device with Magneto natively working...
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I am switching back to my 2.20 translated today.
I wish someone wuld fix it.
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Good flashing and have a nice weekend!
The difference between the two right now using WM2k3SE is:
Handsfree allows you to redial the last number using your BT headset (hold headset button for 2-3 secs).
Headset allows to use the BT headset to talk on the phone.
Other than that they don't do anything else with the current OS (at least for me)
tesking
I am using a Jabra BT800 and I have talked to people who are using Erickson HBH200 and HBH660 and one guy who is using an xLive. The people I have talked to using 2.02 or 2.06 or Sin's 2.02-2.06 merge, all said these devices are not having the caller ID working and the Hands Free would give them the stereo affect.
You are the first.
I have tried 2.02, 2.06 and the Sin's combined one. All would not display properly with the caller ID on my BT800. And even with the addition of the reg key, hkey local machine, software, Microsoft, Bluetooth, "HandsfreeProfileOn", I would get the caller ID, only if the number was not in my contacts and it was not already in my call history of the BT device.
I have also tried BT tools, I have tried every patch and tried all the widcomm stuff too.
I am very curious to know what you have for a ROM and any BT additions or patches and I am very interested to know what caller ID BT device you have.
Maybe you misunderstood what I was saying as well, please know that I was talking about caller ID being displayed upon the BT device, not the phone.
One other thing that Hands free does is allows for the possibility of BT activated voice dial. Like the the voicesignal program on my MPX300.
There has to be a hardware specific driver for each device so when you press the button, it transfers the audio and Mic to the BT headset and starts the voice recognition program. Other wise, we would have had BT voice dial on our HTC devices by now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15191&start=50
ccrrazzzy
I misunderstood the BT device you're using for caller ID (I don't have such device, I was talking about the phone itself).
As far as redialing using the Headset, I am using the Motorola HS850 and I was able to use it to redial the last number. However I end up turning the Handfree off when I don't need it in order to avoid the Mic issue on the headset. When I paired the headset, I chose headset profile only. When ever I need the handfree capability, I normall go under Start/Settings/Connections/Bluetooth/Devices hold my stylus on the device (HS850) then choose "Set as Hands-free" on the pop menu.
For Crrrrraaaazzzyyy:
For Crrrrraaaazzzyyy:
Sorry for your device... I can tell you that with the Globalsat BTH-808 (see the ebay link below), it works smooth in headset Profile (1 or 2 seconds and I can answer from the headset button), and it works smooth in Handfree profile (but as I said, i don't like the behaviour): you can buy the headset from here
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6334980179
Have a nice day!
BT
Sorry I was not clearer at first. I was speaking about the caller ID on the BT headset or in a BT car audio system.
Hands free is needed to have features like caller ID on the BT device and voice dial and to be able to scroll through the BT device's caller ID history and make calls from that while leaving your cell phone safely tucked in your briefcase or hip case.
With my MPX300, because it supports BT voice dial through the BT headset, and with my caller ID on my Jabra BT800 BT headset, I can have all the power of my phone on my ear; being able to make calls through the caller ID history and through dialing via voice dial by speaking the phone number OR speaking the contacts name AND be able to see who is calling me, all while my cell phone-PDA is about 30 feet away!
I just wish we had this on the XDAII because I hate my MPX300; small screen and low memory make it useless.
Through the 2.20 OS, I am able to get caller ID functioning somewhat, but I have to disable call waiting. However to get BT voice dial to work, we will need someone to make a driver like the one that is in the MPX300 and use software like FONIX or www.voicesignal.com
Here is how we can make voicedial work on BT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19233&highlight=
XDAII-TSM500 and Jabra BT800 incompatibility ???
I cannot use neither the microphone nor the headphone of the BT800 instead of the XDAII for listennig mp3 files or recording notes.
When I use headset mode, I can speak and hear throuhg BT800 and it is possible to use the buttons to answer and hang during a phone calling, but is not possible to dial, see the caller number and other features.
When I use handsfree mode, I can get most of features but the BT800 microphone does not work and I have to use the one of the PDA.
Any way, only it is possible to use the BT800 in phone mode, not in PDA mode. However it works perfectly whit my IPAQ.
Could anybody give me any idea ?
BT
Please read everything.
Again,
With a caller ID device like the BT800, it needs Hands Free mode to work right. 2.02 and 2.06 do not do Hands Free well.
Only 2.20 and 2005 but 2005 has other bugs. In 2.20 you must disable call waiting or live with clicking upon Tools, Hands-Free Off, then Tools, Hands-Free On to resume the sound on the BT headset when you try to switch back to the first call. You will have to do this even if you ignore a call.
2005 works VERY well with BT and the phone but there are other bugs like lack of memory and database not compatible with third party programs.
I am sorry ccrrazzzy
I did not mention I have two other poblems:
One is that I am a beginner whith these machines, less than two weeks working whith them, and some concepts are confusing to me.
The other is, my short english (obvious ?) make me misunderstand things and to explain them is even worse.
I understood that all problems appear using the phone and not using the PDA for listening mp3 files, for example. When I use the BT800 whith my IPAQ 5500 (headset only) works like a wired headphones and I thought that it should work in the same way whith the XDA, forgeting the phone features.
I will try whith 2.20.
Many thanks for your answer and excuse me.
mp3 will not work unless you get http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm or the HP one.
While using Headset profile, in 2.02, 2.06 and 2.20, The BT800 will work but I experienced an 8 or 9 second delay before call is transfered to the headset when someone call me. Calling out is OK.
Hands free and 2.20 is only good way with BT800.
No audio on BT headset on the XDAII, no matter what OS... Like the mono audio on your other pda, it will not work on xdaii.
I am trying the xLive now, will post results. It has built in MP3 player and is BT cell phone Hands free. Only $90.
These will not make you look like you are from outer space
http://www.itechdynamic.com/html/border22.htm
Support HiFi audio, stereo but I doubt they will work on the XDAII.
You could make them work with the widcomm stack but that stack does not work with Hands Free and I forget if it works with Headset.
If this thing had caller ID and worked for sure with the XDAII, I would get it.
Hi, i'm Jay i recieved my HTC Touch Pro 2 the other day and i've paired my Sony Ericsson bluetooth headset but i cannot get it to voice dial.
I've installed Vito Voice Dialer, set up the voice command but still no luck with the voice dialing.. Is there a particular headset i need to be able to voice dial or do i need a different programme?
I need the voice dial to work through the headset..
Thanks in advance
No Voice Dialing
It is not possible at this time, because TP2 has another blue tooth stack (see also different threads here).
Gerhard
just a matter of time though mate..... prob happen soon <fingers crossed>
I can get bluetooth voice dial to dial through my car stereo... isn't it using the same technology?
VoiceDialing via Bluetooth handsfree
leanne said:
I can get bluetooth voice dial to dial through my car stereo... isn't it using the same technology?
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Can you cut out your ROM VoiceDialing software and share with us?
I have a Russian ROM and it does not have any VoiceDialing, but I would like to have one.
Nottz_Jay said:
Hi, i'm Jay i recieved my HTC Touch Pro 2 the other day and i've paired my Sony Ericsson bluetooth headset but i cannot get it to voice dial.
I've installed Vito Voice Dialer, set up the voice command but still no luck with the voice dialing.. Is there a particular headset i need to be able to voice dial or do i need a different programme?
I need the voice dial to work through the headset..
Thanks in advance
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Voice dialing works great on the TMo version. Not as quick as before with my previous MDA. I say dial "XXX mobile" and it responds "dial XXX mobile" and I say yes and it calls. Also works for app launches etc.
Cyph
Does it work via Bluetooth Handsfree without pulling phone itself?
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Does it work via Bluetooth Handsfree without pulling phone itself?
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Parrot ck3100 does, but I think it has the voice control software itselft...
I used to use aged SonyErricson T630 + HBH835, I had voice dialing with. But TP2 should be some kind of "PRO" ... well do you think it is impossible to activate this feature at all???
This is great news it is possible actually, but can you tell what kind of Bluetooth stack you have in your TP2? If I go to info dialog it says vesion 1.9.0 Build 4400, HCIv4.72/LMPv4.33031(15). What do you have in it?
thanks a lot.
anyone knows if cyberon voice commander works on TP2??
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anyone knows if cyberon voice commander works on TP2??
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It works. But PTT function of bluetooth handsfree does not anyways.
thank you very much hecksk. it's the only software having italian TTS to read sms (useful when driving or - as it often happens to me - your hand are busy holding the work bag, jacket and so on). bluetooth ptt means that I can't use by headset to give commands, right? awful then... I hope that someone will come out with a solution soon... strange that such an important feature is missing on a businness device like this..
HTC support said, that they have no idea why bla-bla-bla, please contact handsfree manufacture (SonyErricson) and voice dialer (VITO).
It's funny answer seems like standard reply form. Sad.
Hope there is some solution for this issue...
So if I palnning to get a " Blueant Q1 " Bluetooth headset will it work with T-mo. TP2?
Anyone using Blueant Q1 ???
I upgraded to wm 6.5 to get my bluetooth fully functional.
Does it work via Bluetooth Handsfree without pulling phone itself?
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Yes it does.
what version of bluetooth driver(stack) do you use for?
please describe how did you make it?
because mine TP2 does not work with SonyErricson HBH-IV835 handsfree, I used use it with SonyErricson phone and also checked with Nokia's...worked fine.
read this!!!
palah said:
Update... HTC tech informed yes MSVC is working correctly as tested on the TP2 units they use ... the 'Dopod' reference on post above referred to the brand of Headset not the dopod pda....
So voice activation via BT headset on MSVC works on some units not on others (depends on your rom) ... his advice... activate MSVC via the TP2 until a rom update... he said check weekly to see if one happens (so must be in pipeline) He also said Microsoft was working on MSVC as it does not play 100% with new Bluetooth Stacks so expect a new version (from v1.6) some time in future ... seems unless an industrious person finds a cab fix ... the only other option now, is find a rom that works and use that (which can bring other issues)
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this post belongs to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554751&page=3
this looks super good, I'm so happy guys! Let's hope that it is all true, and not just smoke in our eyes
Hi everyone,
Here is my challange:
I only use bluetooth with my carstereo (kenwood KDC-BT60U).
Everything works perfect, handsfree calling pairing ect. Now here is my problem, I like the BT stereo audio so I can play music from my LEO over my carstereo. BUT I cant get that function to autoconnect everytime I want to use it I have to go true all the menue's to turn it on in my phone. I have searched the reg but as a noob I cant find it.
I hope anyone has the answer to get it working like I want it to. (I have spent hours puzzeling)
P.S. I am on Artimis 22.0B Radio 2.12
Greetz Jimi
Hi Jimi,
I'm starting to think that this is the case with most, if not all head units. I had, until recently, an In Phase IPS247BT head unit and that did exactly the same: automatically connects to the phone's handsfree, but I need to manually connect the stereo audio. I contacted the manufacturer and they said they designed it this way to save battery life on the phone. Some searching around on the internet shows that this is a common issue. On XDA, I found this application which runs in the background on your phone and automatically connects the Bluetooth streaming which it detects the handsfree is connected, but unfortunately, it only works on phones with the Microsoft Bluetooth stack and our HD2s have the Widcomm one. I have been looking into writing a similar program myself for the HD2, but don’t hold your breath over that.
Incidentally, I have been considering purchasing the KDC-BT60U myself – it looks like a nice head unit. However, in the Bluetooth compatibility charts on Kenwood’s website, they state that the head unit cannot automatically connect to the HD2s handsfree and that you need to do that yourself from the phone. Admittedly, they tested this on a 1.43 ROM whereas I’m using the latest 1.66 ROM. What has your experience been?
--Amr
Hey amrbekhit,
I never had that the handsfree didn't connect automatically, as soon as I got my phone I flashed artimis so I dont know what it will be like with a 1.66 rom.
My personal guess is that it will work.
My neighbour has the same phone but its still stock and he has no problem with his pioneer unit.
I am not a programmer but a toggle would be a nice as a second option to activate the BT audio, I'll search for it when I have the time and post my findings here.
One thing that's weird is when you pair the phone for the first time the stereo also autoconnects but after that it almost never happens again...
thanks for your reply,
Jimi
I've just fitted a Kenwood KIV-BT900 to my car and started using BT for the 1st time. I've paired my HD2 with the headunit without any problems for the handsfree side of things but when connected, there's supposed to be an option for BT Audio in the headunit's menu but this never appears and I've no idea how to get any further.
Handsfree calling works fine, HD2 & KIV pair automatically when the KIV powers up.
Major_Sarcasm said:
I've just fitted a Kenwood KIV-BT900 to my car and started using BT for the 1st time. I've paired my HD2 with the headunit without any problems for the handsfree side of things but when connected, there's supposed to be an option for BT Audio in the headunit's menu but this never appears and I've no idea how to get any further.
Handsfree calling works fine, HD2 & KIV pair automatically when the KIV powers up.
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Hi Major_Sarcasm,
In my Kenwood the option to connect BT audio is in the Phone selection menu
Press the horn, go to Phone selection press "enter", there I have something like choose Phone and beneath that I have select BT audio.
Not sure if the same menu is in your device.
I also can connect from the phone: go to settings (on the far right of sence), press the soft key menu than more and than you can choose BT, than go to go to your paired kenwood and press the "+". From there you can select Stereo Audio and it will connect.
P.S. did you check your supported connections? (*maybe you forgot to check the stereo audio).
Good luck, Jimi
Sounds like my Kenwood is slightly different as the BT Audio option is supposed to appear with all the other sources. Also, there is no Audio option on the phone's BT settings, only the HF. I'm not gonna let it worry me, the important bit works, it just irks me slightly that BT Audio is supposed to be there as an option and isn't...
Thanks for your reply though.