Does upgrading the radio stack cause a charging fault? - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

There have been many posts now with this problem and one thing has become apparent - no-one knows what causes this fault.
After alot of thought i now believe that either upgrading the rsu/ruu or unlocking the XDA may cause it not to charge. Many people have reported that failed installations which hang on 1% result in the battery never charging up.
One thing that wories me is that i perfomed an upgrade to 4.21 and that failed at 1%. Thing is though my phone actually still works and recognises it is running the 4.21 version, strange! It still does not charge though - it only runs on power from the USB sync cable.
When i brought my phone off ebay the power button didn't work or the battery wouldn't charge so i couldn't test my theory out.
There have been several explanations but nothing conclusive, check this thread out for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4441
If anyone knows what is going on here i would be glad to here your views cos this problem has got me stumped for sure!

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Odd Charging issue ...

Ok, so at 1am I plugged my phone it ... I verified the other end was connected to the wall (it was glowing blue) ... so I go to sleep thinking "it'll be fully charged when I wake up, oh boy oh boy!"
I wake up, and check my phone - it's warm as if it's been charging. But there's only 10% battery life left ... I was like "WHAT THE HECK?!"
This never happened to me with the Treo 650, 700wx / p, Pro, or HTC P3050, P4000, P3540 ... so is it just this battery, or just this phone?
I COULD take the phone in, but I don't want to because I'll get a refurb unit - even though I just spent $700 on this one this month - so I don't want to do that. Ideas folks?
P.S. I'm using stock Telus 6.1 ROM
Same here man, and it freezes when its done charging, or the charging light [the ring light] keeps going on even when its 100%? any help would be greatful ;(
also keyboard keeps freezing lol..
Since I hadn't had a response from anyone here, I went to Telus wh ile I was in the mall ... they say it's probably a charger issue, and not a phone / battery issue ... They will exchange, free of charge, my battery OR charger, but if I want to swap a unit, it'll be a refurb ... I told them "I just spent $700 on this phone, I WILL NOT take a refurb."
Ah well I'll take the charger tomorrow.
The world is out to get my TP!
eh? I went to sprint and they said i should leave the phone and they can check whats wrong with it.. but i cant if its OEM, and since its OEM we all cant have the same problem? sorry i researched and everyone says different things. Some say to much flashing to you got a defective devise or you need to update your radio or something something i duno i quit!
I posted a similar issue (have a sprint touchpro) about the activesync just dropping or the phone just disconnecting from the computer while charging on the USB charging cable, they claim "we've never heard of this issue". I wonder if this isn't exactly like the Mogul that had bad pins in the USB port that would disconnect that device while connected.
So far, haven't been able to find a satisfactory answer.
I had the same issue
When I received my first TP in February, I experienced this 3 times. I took it back into Sprint and they sent me a new in-the-box replacement. I kept all the accessories and just sent back the mobile itself (as I was instructed). Consequently, I've been using the OLD charger (never unwrapped the new one) for almost 4 months without experiencing the same issue. So, I'd have to say it was the handset. Also, once I noticed the charger cable fell out of the phone very easily after experiencing the heating-but-not-charging issue, so perhaps it has something to do with the fit of the male/female mini-usb.

Strange Issue: Vibrant battery status is *discharging* while plugged into usb.

Hey guys,
I'm having an interesting issue here, basically I've noticed my vibrant isn't charging the phone battery,
instead it says "discharging" when plugging it in. When i go to the 'about phone - status area'.
When I unplug the charger it says "not charging" and when I plug it in it says Discharging.
Has anyone seen this behavior on their phones? I'm not sure if there is something wrong with my phone
or if Samsung tries to regulate the battery reconditioning it?.
I would like to avoid having to return my phone if this is some sort of strange issue with the vibrant.
I have had the vibrant for over a week now, have not done any changes to it other then simply rooting it,
no flashing done otherwise. I just happened to notice this tonight before going to bed.
Also note that I do not have wifi turned on, and I wasn't running anything at the time either that should be
draining it more then a charger should put out. I have also tried charging it using the charger that came with
the vibrant and a second charger I bought.
I have only seen one post related to this on Google.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-vibrant/33383-battery-discharging-error.html
Update: I can tell you that my % has gone down, from 30% to now 20%, still discharging..
Also Screen Brightness is set to lowest, WiFi Off, and not running any applications in the background,
on original vibrant rom.
Video Or it Didn't Happen, Posted.
Here I took a video of it too if for some reason you can't see what i'm saying, or think i'm crazy.
Weird Camera is angle is cause the phone number just happens to be right under the battery status.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk_JHdlMVbg
what charger are you using? and do you have another that you can test? Also if you're charging VIA usb port on your laptop have you installed the samsung drivers, if not install the samsung USB drivers, if you have then try a different USB port.
its doubtful its the phone, far more likely the USB port, charger or cable
I have charged it with 3 different chargers, and cables from different computers and usb ports, as well as in wall charger,
the samsung usb drivers are installed and i'm able to access adb.
My computer also has 3 powered usb hubs.
The battery kept draining, till the phone shut off and restarted on its own
after receiving a charge from the charger, so i'm wondering if maybe some
other people might be able to notice this behavior at all.
When it restarted on its own it said it had 60% battery from 0% right before charging,
so I am wondering if perhaps some people's phones are doing this in the middle of the night.
After restarting the phone charges normally starting at a really high %.
Could this be caused by software problems on the phone.
that is crazy... you certainly have ruled out a charger problem.
Was this just a one time thing and after the restart it's charging normally?
if it's still acting up you could try flashing the original rom via odin or to be safe take it back and exchange it.
People might not be realizing theres a discharging problem
Yeah has only happened once that I've caught so far, so thats why i'm trying to raise a little bit of awareness,
seeing that other post on androidcentral it seems like some people got to be having this problem.
Maybe they just don't realize it. Its not something you'd notice plugging the phone in before bed.
For now it seems fine after a restart, its possible that its a problem that occurs after the phone has been on for so many hours,
and perhaps a memory leak occurs of some sort. It could even be Samsung's poor attempt trying to recondition the battery somehow.
I have had some odd occurrences where I have grabbed my phone off the charger first thing in the morning and found it around 30%. Rebooted it and it charged normally. I think this has happened twice now. I didnt notice anything while I had it plugged in so I can't say if it said discharging or not.
Maybe what you could do is go to the phone settings, scroll to the about section and check out the battery status next time that happens.
On the larger scale of things, this could be a fairly common issue that noone
is taking a look at.
It could be related to why some people are having very poor battery life
and why the battery meter can be really inaccurate.
If your phone discharges itself completely, reboots thinking its at 60% battery life,
I can see that causing many problems that you just wouldn't see since people
just plug their phone in and go to bed.
Bump cause I'm having the same issues. Was a solution ever found for this?
I had this problem before but it happened to me with an after market battery, once I changed batterys the problem went away. so basically your battery is bad..
Yes! I have this problem all the time. A restart will fix it but often I will plug it into a wall charger or car charger and my Battery Indicator Pro will say "failure". Battery life is also horrible.
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This is caused by running 2.2.1 roms I think. Only got it once and was on such a rom. A restart will fix it. Its possible you didn't flash good as I have never gotten it since. Its a rom issue though.
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This is caused by running 2.2.1 roms I think. Only got it once and was on such a rom. A restart will fix it. Its possible you didn't flash good as I have never gotten it since. Its a rom issue though.
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Op was running stock rom.
You need to delete your battery stats, but to do this you need to be rooted.Looks like your phone is not charging at all .... plug the charger in and take out the battery and see if it starts charging.... hope this helps ....
this is happening to me, right now. i've had it happen once before, i shut down, pulled the battery, replaced it and booted. it charged fine afterwards. but i don't want that as an answer.
mine is at 84 hours uptime, i don't remember what it was last time i had this issue. whats weird is i was just charging at work not 30 minutes before i got home and plugged it in to charge. worked fine half an hour ago. but not now.
i've got a stock vibrant on 2.2. wonder what's causing this.
This happened to me and i could only get it to charge by rebooting it. I eventually had to replace my phone because it also was doing soft reboots too but discharging also.
I think I found a solution. Is anyone still having this issue tho? If so ill post it.
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I think I found a solution. Is anyone still having this issue tho? If so ill post it.
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I have this problem and have been for a while. Will you post the solution please?
Thanks in advance.
here too... but with a htc wildfire (aka buzz)
it discharges while in charge
very strange!
I tried almost everything, also replaced battery with another one original of course... nothing changes, also replaced AC charger... nothing!! my mobile become a fix line
unluckily I don't have a rooted phone so it's not possible for me to recalibrate trough SW
ive had a battery issue similar to this. my battery never discharged while plugged in, but after flashing a 2.2.1 rom(bi-winning) and then installing "battery left" and reconditioning my battery, the "battery left" app had a roughly 18% difference in battery charged then the system...as the syatem read the battery as being lower then the app showed i had. it would shut off with "low battery" when the app said i had about18% left. after flashing again and reconditioning my battery again the problem went away...could be some software setting somewhere!

My phone doest power on or charge Nothing!

I was flashing a new rom. And after it said 100% on the phone it turned black and never lit up again. I waited i didnt pull out the usb. 15 min later i checked it again still black. i pulled the usb out. hit the power button and nothing happend. i did a hard reset and still the phone wount power on. The phone's charging led light wount even come on when i plug it up. So i assume i have bricked me phone ?
I have HSPL3
miri19v
froyostone 3.1v
is there any way to bring it back to life or do i toss it in the trash?
thanks for the help
i have also tried to go into boot loader and NIL!
from your use of the word 'trash' can i assume you have a tmous hd2? if so, what did you flash? was it a non tmous stock rom (meaning a bad radio)?
(oh, first job tho, check for bent battery pins)
the pins are fine. yeah i was actually flashing a stock tmou rom.
got the full filename for the rom you downloaded please? (just checking you havent downloaded a t mobile rom that isnt tmous)
the reason im pushing that line of enquiry is that the symptoms you describe are consistent with either
wrong radio (from the wrong stock rom)
bent battery pin
over discharged battery
to test the over discharged battery you can take it out, plug usb in with wall charger, then put battery in. this lets it charge without trying to turn on the phone. the light may not come one for some time, so leave it a good hour or two.
Hey Sam,
I'm having this issue too. I am relatively positive it's from an over-discharged battery. The phone conked out a few nights ago, and later when trying to charge it I got nothing - until yanking the battery for a bit, plugging in the charger, then popping in the battery. Now, every time the battery drains I have to do this.
Is the battery "damaged" now, or do you have any suggestions to fix the prob? I see this posted a bit but no one has any solutions that I've found.
Thanks!
Ryan
well i know the principals of these batteries, but not really the mechanics, so yes id guess the battery is defective, (but it could be the phones internal battery control circuits too, again just guessing) but no i dont know if there is a cure, other than try another battery, and if it cures it, ok, but if not then it would be a warranty issue.
are you using android? cos from what ive read it discharges quickly under android or something? (never used it so cant tell)

[Q] Battery Issues - Won't Recalibrate

Hello everyone,
I have flashed a few roms to my Legend, and all of them have always worked fine, however NOW I am having problems with battery calibration.
I have tried many different ways of calibrating the battery, however all of these have failed.
The problem started one day when I noticed that when I used to be able to charge my phone to full, it was only charging to about 35% (Give or take), so I decided to buy some aftermarket ones with an additional charger, which worked fine for about a month, when the same issue occurred, it would only charge them to about 50%.
So I read about re-calibrating and tried that, which worked once. However now the re-calibration only gives me 0-2%, which only lasts seconds.
Because of this I wanted to run the RUU, to return my phone so I can claim on the warrenty, but as the RUU needs at least 30%, is there a way of making a flashable 100% battery status, as I know for sure that the batteries are all 100% charged because of the external charger I have?
I have AlphaRev with ClockworkMod recovery 3, and am running BlaYo B0.8 (after CyanogenMod 7.1 RC) if that helps at all.
Another part of the problem is also that sometimes the phone won't switch on without being plugged into the mains, or at least having some power input at boot stage, this part only occurred after AlphaRev though.
Thank-you for all help recieved, it is much appreciated,
TS
P.s. Because of this I now have to resort to my old Nokia 2760, and as you guys know that's so tough when you've felt the power of Android. Also if there is anything that you'd like to ask, then feel free to add your question to me as the sooner I can get the problem fixed the better.

Weird battery/crashing issue

My phone has developed a strange problem in the last week or so. Basically, it crashes randomly. Turns completely off, and when I try to turn it on again, it assures me the battery is dead by flashing the empty battery symbol. The problem is, the battery is not dead at all. This has happened at charge levels of ~30% up to almost 60%.
When I plug the phone into a charger, it suddenly shows that it's back at the original 57% or whatever and charges, turns on, and operates normally. It's like plugging it in "reminds" it that everything's okay.
Slightly before this, it also developed a problem where all my widgets often disappear after any dead battery shutdown, but this doesn't happen every time.
It's a factory unlocked E5823 on AT&T, currently on Android version 7.1.1. Some Googling around revealed people having a lot of problems with it in July, but I don't even remember when I got that update. It was definitely a while before this issue started, and other people's issues don't sound like mine. The change that most closely coincides with the onset of this problem is me installing Animal Crossing Pocket Camp. I'm not sure how that would mess with the basic operation of my phone, however.
Thoughts? If the battery was just dying, it would actually drain charge, not falsely crash the phone while really full of juice, I thought, but am I wrong? I haven't felt the need to root this phone, but I'm not at all opposed, either, if it'll help. Should I root it and reset batterystats, see if that helps?
ManiacalShen said:
My phone has developed a strange problem in the last week or so. Basically, it crashes randomly. Turns completely off, and when I try to turn it on again, it assures me the battery is dead by flashing the empty battery symbol. The problem is, the battery is not dead at all. This has happened at charge levels of ~30% up to almost 60%.
When I plug the phone into a charger, it suddenly shows that it's back at the original 57% or whatever and charges, turns on, and operates normally. It's like plugging it in "reminds" it that everything's okay.
Slightly before this, it also developed a problem where all my widgets often disappear after any dead battery shutdown, but this doesn't happen every time.
It's a factory unlocked E5823 on AT&T, currently on Android version 7.1.1. Some Googling around revealed people having a lot of problems with it in July, but I don't even remember when I got that update. It was definitely a while before this issue started, and other people's issues don't sound like mine. The change that most closely coincides with the onset of this problem is me installing Animal Crossing Pocket Camp. I'm not sure how that would mess with the basic operation of my phone, however.
Thoughts? If the battery was just dying, it would actually drain charge, not falsely crash the phone while really full of juice, I thought, but am I wrong? I haven't felt the need to root this phone, but I'm not at all opposed, either, if it'll help. Should I root it and reset batterystats, see if that helps?
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--yep mine too. I'm thinking it has to do with the heaying problem. Mine crashes and dies when there are many apps running/ wifi on with downloads while watching youtube., etc. another is when I recprd videos at 4k pr 720p for about 8-10 mins. My phone heats up real hard. I'll try resetting it and hopefully this fixes it. ps. Haven't done anything to my z5c yet. no unlocked bootloader, no root.,etc.
Same problem
I had the same problem
Device have charge (50,60,70 or more), show 0% and turn off.
Hardware problem maybe ???
any solution found?
hi,
I know it's been a long time you posted this but I'm currently facing that exact same problem.
Could you find any solution in the end?
Thanks
ManiacalShen said:
My phone has developed a strange problem in the last week or so. Basically, it crashes randomly. Turns completely off, and when I try to turn it on again, it assures me the battery is dead by flashing the empty battery symbol. The problem is, the battery is not dead at all. This has happened at charge levels of ~30% up to almost 60%.
When I plug the phone into a charger, it suddenly shows that it's back at the original 57% or whatever and charges, turns on, and operates normally. It's like plugging it in "reminds" it that everything's okay.
Slightly before this, it also developed a problem where all my widgets often disappear after any dead battery shutdown, but this doesn't happen every time.
It's a factory unlocked E5823 on AT&T, currently on Android version 7.1.1. Some Googling around revealed people having a lot of problems with it in July, but I don't even remember when I got that update. It was definitely a while before this issue started, and other people's issues don't sound like mine. The change that most closely coincides with the onset of this problem is me installing Animal Crossing Pocket Camp. I'm not sure how that would mess with the basic operation of my phone, however.
Thoughts? If the battery was just dying, it would actually drain charge, not falsely crash the phone while really full of juice, I thought, but am I wrong? I haven't felt the need to root this phone, but I'm not at all opposed, either, if it'll help. Should I root it and reset batterystats, see if that helps?
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It looks like your battery is just dying. This was a common issue with Nexus 6p and other phones.
Resetting batterystats won't help... it doesen't have anything to do with it

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