I was surf the net while the phone ring. I go ahead and answer the phone, it did take a couple of seconds to get the phone connected. There was a beep and I've noticed the GPRS signal was gone.
It is a bug or the xda was build like this? :roll: Is there any way to have both GPRS and phone up and running?
i never had that issue
maybe it's an operater issue or you use an old rom / radio stack
I and several others I've spoken to about it had a similar question. After some testing (and close reading of the O2 website) it turns out that this is 'as designed' behaviour. GPRS is "always on", but only while you are not making a GSM call. After your call finishes, the GPRS should automatically reconnect.
O2 cleverly glosses over the issue in its marketing materials by calling it "always on" just like that - in inverted commas - and explaining that you can be 'signed in to MSN Messenger all day' which is sort of true, in the sense that if you set up MSN Messenger to connect automatically (at considerable bandwidth cost!) it will reconnect when the GPRS connection is re-established after you complete a voice call.
This is my understanding anyway. If anyone knows more (or can reliably inform me that there is a ROM fix that will keep GPRS really always on, then I'm very keen to know...!
Greg.
BTW my ROM version was already the latest 3.20.06 ENG
Radio version 4.21.01
Here is what I just did.
I had GPRS enabled and try dialing a number. As soon as I got GSM connected, GPRS was no longer available and will not automatically reconnect.
Is there a setup for GPRS reconnection?
How do I go about the set my xda as GPRS always on?
Do I have to set my MSN Messenger to connect automatically in order to re-gain the automatically reconnection?
Thanx in advance.
Just went thru the FAQ's on myxda.com and here is what I've found.
12 . After finishing a phone call, sometimes I cannot use GPRS to surf the Internet? Is this correct?
Yes, GPRS needs to be re-connected if a phone call is made during a GPRS transaction.
21 . Can I make calls while surfing the net?
No, your gprs cannot be connected while a phone call is commencing.
Here is the link:
http://www.myxda.com/web/template/FAQ.vm
Type in GPRS for the keywords.
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I have a Siemens SX56 using AT&T Wireless as a carrier.
The phone is running the following:
ROM Verison: 3.14.03 ENG
ROM Date: 09/27/02
Radio Version: 6.12
Protocol Version: 324e4
My question is:
I would like to connect to a traditional ISP. I have talked to AT&T and they said when I go to the internet, I have to connect using their GPRS network. They said that if I used another ISP I would not have to pay them to use the internet. DUH! this is what I want to do. Any advice would be appreciated...
Thanks!!!
Bob
You can connect to the Internet using GPRS. This, in essence, would make AT&T your Internet Provider. You can choose to get your mail at your existing provider (but you must use AT&T's server for outbound mail). Other than that, your 'normal' ISP has nothing to do with you once you connect through AT&T using GPRS.
You could, theoretically, also connect using the GSM as an ordinary modem, by dialing your old ISP, making what's called a 'GSM data call'. This would however limit throughput to roughly 9600 bps, and it would not have the nice 'always on' property of GPRS. It would be cheaper per bit (in most cases) for large downloads though. Go figure.
i want to make a gsm data call
I do want to make a GSM data call. at&t charges an arm and a leg for data access, that usimg my regular ISP even at 9600 baud would be great.
when I try to set up anything other than GPRS, it says "there is no answer". I called siemens and the said at&t disabled anything other than GPRS.
what I want to know is can I enable that ability which I know the phone can do?
Thanks
Bob
GSM data calls can be made from most phones, but AT&T may have disabled this call type for anyone but those paying for a 'data subscription'. With most providers a data subscription just means you get a seperate phone number in order to be able to receive incoming calls from analogue modems.
GSM providers are weird. For instance O2 in The Netherlands blocks fax calls for some unknown reason, but passes GSM data calls.
I must not be clear...
OK... I must not be clear, so I will try to be more clear in my question.
First a little background:
I have AT&T wireless with a data subscription. My current subscription is for 8 Megabytes per month. I would like to use the web, but with only an 8 Megabyte limit (which is AT&T's highest data level subscription that you can buy) I can not do much on the Internet.
I know that a GSM data call is slower. I know that it is not always on like GPRS. Because of the data limit of my current AT&T data subscription I want to make a data call from my phone to my ISP.
I have setup a ISP connection profile in the connections area on the phone. When I dial the ISP the phone responds with a message that says "the number you dialed is not answering" this is a text based message, not a voice message. I know the phone is answering because I can call it from my home pc or just dial it from the cell phone and it answers. I was told by siemens that AT&T turned the GSM Data portion of the phone off. I am hoping they turned it off with software and its a setting or something I can change in the registry to enable it again.
So in summary:
I do pay for a GPRS data subscription ($25.00 for 8 Megabytes / month)
I would really like to also use GSM data as an option for getting to the Internet when I do not want to use up my 8 Megabyte limit on GPRS.
I really have appreciated your comments and your help. I hope I am being more clear in my question now.
Thanks,
Bob
I'll try to be more clear as well then...
Try calling your provider and see whether they support GSM data calls from 'normal' subscriptions. And with normal subscription, I'm not talking about whether or not the subscription has GPRS, but I mean any subscription that doesn't get you a special phone number for incoming data calls.
There's plenty of providers that do not provide normal data calls, even to subscribers that pay extra to get GPRS. Most of this practice did end when WAP was believed to become big, but some may have limited data calls to their own WAP access numbers.
Should your provider still offer separate numbers for analogue and ISDN, try calling both types to see what happens, and do play around with both call types (analogue & ISDN) from your XDA. (Under 'Settings' / 'Connections' / 'CSD Line Type' in modern ROMs)
Good Luck...
Similar issues
I am trying to do the same thing with my 02 XDA, and i get the same message saying it is not answering. However, i can dial my ISP using a GSM connection, as i have done this using my nokia 7650 connected via IRDA to my PC, and useing it as a modem. However i cannot get the same connection to work using my XDA. Very strange, so if anyone can help.
Hi guys,
new to the forum.
I got 2 BIG (sorry just a newbie..!) question...
i just got an o2 xda.
a) I managed to set up gprs connection to browse internet pages.
My question is... when I insert my sim in the xda, as soon as my provider (wind italy) is recognised a "G" symbol appears next to the radio signal...but after a few seconds it disappears..what does it mean? that the phone is not working under gprs? should i set up something more to allow the phone to work in gprs mode?
b) can i install any application made for pocket pc on the xda? or does a sort of "porting" exist to make them work on the xda?
Thanks in advance
Paolo
a) dont really understand what you mean
1 you ask about if calls are blocked while you are using GPRS
2 you ask if the G symbol mean that your gsm network dont support gprs
b) no, applications for pocketPC compiled for ARM works under all pda's which have pocketPC and an ARM cpu
I think he is asking why the "G", vanishes after initial connection, is that a sign that gprs is not active or is it normal even while gprs is active. Personally I cant get gprs to work with O2 and I have found no solution even though O2 tells me it is available to me.
that's it! I guess the "G" symbol means that gprs is active at the moment (even for calls). So if after a few seconds the "G" symbol is gone, i guess it means that i'm working under gsm and not gprs.
The question is..assuming that what i'm saying is true.. how is possible to make phone calls under "gprs"?
Thanks a lot for your answers.
Paolo
well because autoconf dident include my country or phone company i set up my gprs myself
i did this under
settings
connections
connections
internet settings - modify
new
put a name
select modem -> celluar line (gprs)
typed in the access point of my phonecompany's gprs in my case [Internet]
opened IE
it wanted user name password and domain
i dident type anything at all
but checked save settings
pressed ok and
it loaded the page and i could suft and use messenger and such
Question 1: When the G sign appears when you turn on your radio, it means that GPRS is available. After a few seconds, it always disappears: this does not mean anything. If you connect to GPRS, the G sign does not appear again. If you make a phone call (or receive a phone call) while connected via GPRS, the XDA disconnects automatically from GPRS.
Question 2: Programs for Pocket PC are all compatible with XDA. Just 2 things to remember:
a- some programs are written specifically for some Pocket PCs (like iPaq), so they might not run on XDA
b- some programs related to mobile phones (for managing SMS, fax, ...) are specifically written for PDAs connected to mobile phones (Nokia, ...) and thus not compatible with the Pocket PC Phone Edition
GPRS IE Errors
The logon and password box when you open IE either mean
1. your user name and password for the GPRS connection are incorrect for your provider and contract or
2. You have proxy settings enabled which you don't need
3. You don't have proxy settings and need them.
Hope this helps
Thanks to all,
i managed to understand...that the "G" symbol is disappearing from the main screen but if i "touch" the radio signal a bubble appears with the provider name (ie. WIND) and the "G" symbol on the right side of the bubble.
I guess that means i'm connected in gprs mode all the time. Thanks.
Paolo
GPRS
Hi Paolo.
The "G" symbol means that your XDA have the GPRS Service active by your cellphone provider.
If you have WM2003, to configure the GPRS funcionality you need to go:
- System Panel - Connections and click in "Connections icon".
- "Add a new Modem connection"
- "Enter a name for the connection and select the option Celular Line (GPRS).... Click Next
- Enter the name for the Access Point (of you provider)... Click Next
- Enter the Username and password, if you need it... Click Advanced
- Enter the DNS Servers manualy, if you need it. Click OK and Finish...
And you have GPRS.
Greetings...
Sorry my english, but it is the best i can.
If somebody has foolproof step by step settings for GPRS over O2 using payg sim, I would be very grateful, I have followed instructions from elsewhere but no joy.
dNuOs said:
Thanks to all,
i managed to understand...that the "G" symbol is disappearing from the main screen but if i "touch" the radio signal a bubble appears with the provider name (ie. WIND) and the "G" symbol on the right side of the bubble.
I guess that means i'm connected in gprs mode all the time. Thanks.
Paolo
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No, you;re only part way there. The presence of the G means that GPRS is available, but does not mean you're connected.
Hi
In my country, Viet Nam, have 2 GSM providers: Vinaphone & Mobiphone.
With Vinaphone sim, I can use GPRS & make call or answer without any problem
But with Mobiphone sim card, GPRS confict with GSM, so can not make call or answer any call,
The problem here is GPRS from Mobilphone, I can ask mobiphone to stop GPRS for my Mobil simcard, then can make call without any problem.
The question is: Can I stop GPRS from O2 XDA , not from Mobiphone System.
O2 XDA II can work with mobiphone with GPRS without any problem
Pls help.
Thanks & Best Regards
Hai Nguyen, you could delete your GPRS connection settings - no settings,
no GPRS! If you just wish to stop GRPS after using it for a while, press
and hold the red key for a few seconds, and that should disconnect you.
I am surprised that VMS and Mopiphone have a different setup - in almost
all other respects they are very similar, since they are heavily leglislated.
The only real difference I have found is on hte edge of their rural coverage,
especially around Long Xuyen.
Good luck anyway,
Dave.
There is a Freeware where you are able to choose whether you want GPRS to stay connected once you no longer use it. It installed ok on my unit, no strange behavior.
http://www.gb-soft.cz
Thanks all for your help
But the problem here is not GRPS software, This is a GPRS signal conficted with GSM Signal
GPRS software, connect or not is not this problem
I call Mobilephone to stop my GPRS so I can use Mobiphone simcard with O2 XDA (Running SX56 2003 rom, Radio Stack 4.21),
When I call back Mobilephone to active my GPRS signal. this problem come.
SO
This can not use GPRS software to stop or solve.
It is only solve by stopping GPRS signal from provider, so I look for the way to stop from handphone (some modify in registry or radio stack)
Pls advise
Hello,
I installed then new ROM 2.11.255.1 on an English TyTN. Now it shows a specific icon when it's connected thru GPRS, EDGE, 3G or HSDPA, and it's cool.
Well, I noticed that when it's connected to data network and it shows the H icon of HSDPA, any attempt to make a phone call fails.
The issue appears also if the device is connected but it's not transmitting or receiving data.
Disconnecting the data connection fixes the problem, making me able to make phone calls again, but this is not a workaround when Direct Push is enabled, because when I disconnect the data connection it tries to immediately reconnect...
Does anybody has the same issue?
My provider is Telecom Italia Mobile.
Thanks!
Hi!
I have the same issue! this is extremely annoying, and sofar i dont know any workaround then to turn off push and disconnect the data session. In hoping the official WM6 rom with its upgrades will take care of this issue...
In Holland a similar problem was found by several users. It turned out to be a problem of the service provider (KPN), some problems with their hardware. The issue should be fixed later this year. You should check if more customers of the service provider have the same issues, as it might not be your phone or rom version that causes the problems.
Depends of you network ...its nothing related with your phone or radio version. Just disable hspda.
I am successful to upgrate WM5 => WM6 Touch Rom, but I don't know how to disable the GPRS function (seems different with WM5). Thanks.
Not too sure what you meen by disable, coz if you really wanna diasble just delete the GPRS settings.
But if you are asking about disconnection, it depends on what rom... some Roms have a disconnect Button in the baloon.
But most all roms allow you to disconnect thru the Comm Manager or keep the call disconnect button (Red Button) pressed for 5 secs and the GPRS shall disconnect.
There are many third party app which give the option for disconnecting...
I am using the PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 Touch Rom and there is not function to turn off the GPRS. eventually I found how to stop the GPRS wrong usage.
Start > Setting > Connection > Network Wizard >
Select a wrong location and GPRS provider that make GPRS can't connect to the correct Provider. To Save money by wrong click sometime.
I have created a fake GPRS connection (fake name, fake provider) and set it as default. So GPRS will never start downloading automatically. To make it work again I have to manually select the real connection in GPRS settings. Takes some time but saves some money. Moreover, I rarely use GPRS.
arg0, you can use MortScript to establish a connection with specified name.
_TB_TB_ said:
arg0, you can use MortScript to establish a connection with specified name.
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_TB_TB_,
not sure we are speaking about the same thing. I was telling how, by setting a fake default GPRS connection I could avoid accidental GPRS traffic. Not sure how the MortScript thing is related. You mean I could have a popup or something that would let me choose the connection or that I can make shortcuts to select my GPRS connection more easily?