In my XDA with AT&T latest ROM, I can't receive any vCard by sms! I've tried sending them from my Nokia 6310i both in single phone number and full details mode. The Nokia phone says the vCard has been sent but I don't get anything in the XDA. Sending vCards by sms to other phones obvioulsy works.
Is it just me? Is it a bug or is it a 'feature'?
thanx
PS: do you know of any XDA proggie that will receive/send vCards?
Yeah, me too. I think it must be the setting problem.
However, I don't think anyone can answer me in HK cause I am using WM2003 with ExWAP v2 (downloaded from Yoret.net).
The setting I can see from the official CSL website couldn't tell me how to set it up with my xda1.
cant claim i know what vcard really mean but google give some hits when you search on vcard pocketpc
http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=vCard+pocketpc&btnG=Google-søgning
I have never tried sending/receiving Vcards via SMS, but I have sent & received via IR.
PPC 2003 allows you to receive vCards into contacts and Calendar...however not via SMS indiginously. You need a 3rd party application to do that. If you do a search for "SMS" at either http://www.pocketgear.com or http://www.handango.com you will find the app I'm talking about. Cant remember what its called though, easy to find click through all the pages. :wink:
Thanks for your answers. All soft I have found just manages the vCards stored in the PocketPC. Some let you even send them through email. But I have not found any program that emulates Nokia phone's capabilities of receiving an specially crafted SMS with the vCard inside.
I find interesting is the fact that when you send an sms with an vCard inside from a Nokia phone to another phone (without vCard funcionality), it displays the message in raw format:
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:2.1
N:John
TEL;WORK;VOICE:5551234567
END:VCARD
However, my XDA I (WindowsCE 2003) silently ignores such sms while it's happy to receive regular ones!!!
This vCard through SMS capability is probably Nokia-specific... it would ne nice if some one implemented it for PocketPC devices. I'm sure there's a market for it!
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Hi guys, I am looking for some way (software ?), that enables the XDA/Qtek to send and receive SMS picture messages (EMS) -not MMS- using only the GSM network and not the internet, and that is, of course, a stand alone function, I mean by this without having to use a Nokia GSM phone or any other GSM phone.
Thanks for your help
All you really need is an app that associates a particular SMS string with a particular picture. You'd then install this app to both devices - sender and reciever.
You'd open you app, pick a picture and hit send. The app would then send an SMS string, say, 'picture1' via SMS to the receiving xda. That unit would have the app running that would pick up the SMS 'picture1' and, having associated that string with the picture you want (presumably picture #1, for the sake of argument) will display that picture.
That's effectively all EMS does on other handsets (not quite, but effectively) - that's why you can't usually see EMS sent between different devices. Different devices from different manufacturers set up the (proprietary) EMS in different ways.
Try the Philips C12 to the Nokia 7650, for example, then you'll see what I mean.
Tekflow - I think you're talking about EMS - ie the SMS extension 2bit picture format made popular by Nokia phones. I quite miss this, as most of my friends have Nokias, and I often used to send EMSs to them with my 9210.
I've looked into this myself a bit for PPC/PE - the situation's not too good:
Sending is relatively easy, just build the SMS in the correct format and send it out, however receiving it is a nightmare.
Unfortunately, Microsoft have made a complete mess of SMS receiving functionality on the PPC/PE OS, only one single application can ever have the SMS handle open for receive at any one time for a given message protocol (and these are not very fine grained basically Text, Notification, WDP, WCMP, Status and Raw).
This application by default is the SMS handling application of the PocketPC/PE. So basically, you can't use it otherwise you loose the default handling.
On Symbian, it's sooo much easier. There's a 'chain' of receivers, so you just register for a particular message, scan it, and if you don't want to process it, you just pass it on to the next application in the handler chain.
It might be possible to completely rebuild the SMS handling application from scratch, get rid of the default handler, and replace it with your own, however there's quite a lot going on under the surface with SMS handling, so this would be extremely difficult.
One thing you could try is getting the messages after they have been received and placed in the inbox using MAPI. I'm not sure if this would work, as IMHO MAPI is a hopeless API too, and propably would bletch at a SMS type that wasn't plain text. It's worth investigating though.
There are two EMS softs for Pocket PC but not for the "Phone Edition".
These softs used AT commands instead of RIL API.
But as with last ROM it is possible to have access to internal modem with AT commands, these softs should work now.
eMood Messenger for Pocket PC :
http://www.emoodsoft.com/doc/emm for ppc.htm
Pocket Presence SMS Manager :
http://www.pocketpresence.com/smsman.asp
But EzOS (developer of EzWAP 2.5 MMS) proposes MobyKit, a library to develop SMS/EMS/MMS :
http://www.mobykit.com/tech_messaging.php
Anyone knows if there is a possibility to send and receive picture messages (EMS, not MMS) using XDA II ? All the available software I found are not compatible with Pocket PC Phone Edition.
I'm looking for the same as well.
Worse still, the PPC or WM2003 default SMS software does not even NOTIFY or do anything when it received an EMS message. In fact, it did nothing .. I suspect it ignored anything apart from SMS, it didn't even store ANYTHING from an EMS. Some normal phones at least receive the EMS but display garbage on SMS, on Xda II -- zilch !!! NOTHING. Try it.
Smart GSM
Guys, I think Smart GSM is the solution. Try it and let me know the results.
http://www.smartsoftworks.com/download/
ems 4 qtek 1010
do this program work for pocket pc phone edition like qtek 1010 (xda)?
did anyone send or receive a EMS successfully ?
Hello all,
I do a lot of mass mailing and the best phone for that in my experience is the Nokia 9210i.
Mainly because of three things:
1. all you need to do is scroll down through the names and highlight
2. if there is a problem the 9210i will resend automaically.
3. what is great is that, it has the capability to guess the names. it can even guess an initial or a half name.
the problem with the xda is that if you send to more then one person, under the log it shows it only sent one time. therefore if one of your friends did not receive it, it will say that there was an error when sending your sms but you don't know who. plus forwarding again and again making sure all your friend receives the info is such a pain....
i am just wondering is there another sms program out there that may be better then the original...
cheers...et
hiya
recent convert from mobile to pda
does anyone know if we can stick smilies or ems pic on our sms
or even receive them :?:
no the sms recieve part of the OS dont support ems and cant be made to wihtout rewriting parts of windows ce
but people said that it could be made to send ems if parts of outlook were changed to made those ems codes
you can of cause make manual smilies like
Is the change really that serious? I thought the SMS receiving function was only handled by one DLL called SMSReceiver_DLL.dll.
I have tried sending an EMS from a Nokia phone to Xda II, unfortunately I got no response from Xda II at all, I mean NOTHING, no notification, no garbage characters SMS in Inbox (tmail.exe), not a single sign of any incoming sms or anything!
I suspect that this SMSReceiver thingy is written to handle SMS only, and anything with a header which does not comply to a normal SMS, namingly EMS -- IT DOES NOTHING! This is most unfair.
yeah that might do it
of cause you would also have to make some application to make then
and possibly view them something like mms compose
i dont think that outlook and display pictures like that
of cause i could be wrong
also composing them would also prob be an issue with outlook
i think that phonecompany's and cellphone makers are pushing mms these days so i doubt that it will be in the xda3
do the newer nokia and sonyericsson even support the std anymore ?
Rudegar said:
also composing them would also prob be an issue with outlook
i think that phonecompany's and cellphone makers are pushing mms these days so i doubt that it will be in the xda3
do the newer nokia and sonyericsson even support the std anymore ?
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there was a program by eMood soft which handles EMS message (sending & receiving) but it's not designed for Phone Edition. I installed it, it looked good but too bad it can only work via Com ports, IR, Bluetooth etc ... Can't use it on Xda II at all. And the website for this eMood seems to have shut for good. No sign of any other software that works under WM2003 Phone Edition.
Well, as you said most providers are now pushing for MMS ... but in many Asian countries, EMS are still widely used for leisure. And for new Nokia phones or SE phones (even P900), EMS seems to be pretty standard.
Is there an app that can do this. My old Nokia could broadcast a sms to multiple recipients. I use mymobilier but limited to few recipients at a time.
I would like an app on the PC that can send out a text message via my o2 HD2, example, “No training to night due to heavy snow” to up to 100 mobile numbers from a text list.
Any suggestions
my spec Vista 32, HTC HD2 win6.5
Set up a group on your device and then use MyMobiler to type the text.
Vodafone do a SMS app which integrates with Outlook on your PC - but not sure if it includes what you want.
Yorkshire Yellow said:
Set up a group on your device and then use MyMobiler to type the text.
Vodafone do a SMS app which integrates with Outlook on your PC - but not sure if it includes what you want.
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I used to be able to use Mymobiliser, but for some reason my HD2 won’t send sms to more than 3 persons at a time. also creating a group is not the best as the contact numbers are held on a database. Ideally I would like a standalone application than ran on my PC and could send SMS message via my phone connected with the USB, like old Nokia software did.
One long shot option is to buy an old nokia phone, swap out sim cards and use their pc suite.
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I used to be able to use Mymobiliser, but for some reason my HD2 won’t send sms to more than 3 persons at a time. also creating a group is not the best as the contact numbers are held on a database. Ideally I would like a standalone application than ran on my PC and could send SMS message via my phone connected with the USB, like old Nokia software did.
One long shot option is to buy an old nokia phone, swap out sim cards and use their pc suite.
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Try Efficasoft Mobile Express 2.0...
http://www.efficasoft.com/
LondonGman said:
I used to be able to use Mymobiliser, but for some reason my HD2 won’t send sms to more than 3 persons at a time. also creating a group is not the best as the contact numbers are held on a database. Ideally I would like a standalone application than ran on my PC and could send SMS message via my phone connected with the USB, like old Nokia software did.
One long shot option is to buy an old nokia phone, swap out sim cards and use their pc suite.
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From http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638#goto_threadsearch
85. Increase the Number of Allowed Recipients in Group SMS
The max number of defualt contacts to send a group SMS is 10. You can change it to 50 by using this tweak:
HKLM\Software\Jataayu\Messaging\MaxRecipients
Change from 10 to 50
Try this
SMS Control Center might do want you want. There are paid and ad-supported versions.
It works for me with a HD2, Windows XP and ActiveSync.
I can't post links so you'll need to google for SMS Control Center.
Cheers
ugrxda said:
SMS Control Center might do want you want. There are paid and ad-supported versions.
It works for me with a HD2, Windows XP and ActiveSync.
I can't post links so you'll need to google for SMS Control Center.
Cheers
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Ok this product is looking good so far. hated the ads so "donated" $5 (£3.10) if it is solves my problems, would be worth every penny. it
I have tred Try Efficasoft Mobile Express in past, not sure of version and it crashed often.
and i need more than 50 recipients.
So will try this SMS Control Center and if it works nice.
SMS Control Center did not work, had error and crashed when trying to send sms to more than a few people at a time. I have sent the developer the error file and he is looking into it.
Also I looked at the registery solution and it is already set to 100.
Yet somehow I cannot add more than 4 UK mobile number to the “address bar” of the sms window, yet on my old XDA orbit2 can add 100.
Search continues, but for now I will switch sim card to old xda orbit to when I need to send out bulk text messages.
Hello,
Thought where I can land this thread, in Q&A or here, but since it concernes original android development I though I'll land it here.
Bare in mind that I don't know anything about dev, kernels, source codes or coding, just my thoughts in here.
I used HTC Desire for 2 years before I bought SGS2 two weeks ago.
One feature that isn't avaible in SGS2 and is in all HTC phones which I miss most is SMS vCard.
This is mostly used in business enviroment, but original android doesn't supports it, HTC made his own implementation.
You can say that you can get that feature by installing handcent or some other market app, but you CANNOT.
Why?
Not sure, but I guess it's a special implementation by Nokia (did they develop that?), maybe it's even patented, not sure.
If you try to send SMS vCard from any Nokia symbian or other phone to SGS2, you will NOT receive any message. Your message app will not see anything, message will not reach it.
I had same problem on my HTC Desire, but after contacting HTC they fixed it in Gingerbread release. They said it's because SMS vCard messages longer then 160 char are compressed (I had problems with long vCard, 2-3 numbers, email, organization...).
So my thoughs were, if someone from dev could look into HTC Desire HD or HTC Sensation source, would they be able to find parts of code connected to processing of vCards sms and port it into SGS2?
Which part is processing received sms's, kernel?
I know this wouldn't solve sms vCard sending (right now when you use Handcent to send vCard, Nokia cannot import it automaticaly, it probably misses some headers or something), but it would allow receiving of vCards from other business users.
Just a thought if you are thinking what to do next with your time and skills.
Best regards,
Mikeyy
whats a vcard? is it different to sending a namecard by text then?
Is that not a windows thing vcard .
I have old VCard folder on PC and if i click it i get multiple contacts opening .
Could be a leftover from old Nokia .
\is it just transfer contacts Nokia to SGS .
jje
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VCard
Version 2.1 is used widely. It's basicly automatic contact import in people/contact app. If you don't use vcard you need to enter name, organization, number, second number, fax, e-mail etc... manualy. This way you automaticly import contact.
It's an standard for contacts exchange, used in e-mails, mail clients, smartphones and almost everything that has contacts in it.
Android uses it in people/contacts app, you can import and export (backup) contacts as vcard. One vcard file can contain 1 or more contacts, it can store contact pictures also.
Most of old (dump) phones support it, Nokia especially since Nokia was 1st business user choice for a long time, and quite frankly, still is.
Android can exchange contacts as vcard but only over MMS, it attaches vcard file to MMS.
Cheaper way of sending is SMS, not sure who invented it, but I bet it's Nokia, I recall someone mentioning that Nokia has patent on SMS vcard. That can explain why Google STILL didn't implement it in Android.
Or they are just lazy and not interested in business user support.
Anyway, I use it often and I see other business users use it alot, but since I switched to SGS2, it's not supported.