Please tell me there is a way to get the T-Mobile version of the XDA (from Canada) to work on the Orange network in the UK! :roll: :?:
I have just bought one for my Dad (I already have an O2 XDA on Orange) and I've gone into the bootloader and selected radio 900/1800 which i believe is what orange runs on, but when I put my Sim into the device it just says no service
It's currently got RS 6.24.00 on the device, do I need to change this to 4.21.00 ?
If so how ? As I can't see the option in the bootloader to load/backup rom's like on mine
Please help
Cheers
Neil
Anyone ?
try to do a search i'm pretty sure that the gsm settings cant just be changed in software, and if thats the case then a US (900/1900) can never be used in EU (900/1800)
xda2 dont have that issues because it's triband (900/1800/1900)
Have tried searching already... couldn't find anything of relevance
There is the option in the bootloader that includes 1800, can't remember what the other exact options were as I don't have the phone with me atm. But I'm pretty sure the one I selected was 900/1800, so I hope (and pray) that this phone supports 1800.
Do I also need to select the band through WM2003 aswell as doing it in the bootloader?
Can someone confirm what band the UK networks Orange and Vodafone use, just to make sure I'm trying it with the right ones...
Any help much appreciated, as I'm getting desperate on this one, as its a crimbo present for my dad..
Cheers :wink:
Neil
EU as in all cellphone companies use 900/1800
it's the EU std like PAL is
US use 900/1900 and i dont think anybody else use that
did a quick search in the forum and came across this
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3064&highlight=900+1800
S**t S**t S**t thats not good
I've just been doing some searching on google and found that Cellnet and Vodafone use 900 & 1800, and Orange and One2One use 1800.
Does this mean I will be able to use Voda or Cellnet as they use 900.. and the phone is on 900 / 1900 ????
Cheers
Probably, just shove a voda or O2 card in and see what happens.
Thanks to everyone who helped, my Dad has now been given his PPC and it works on Voda
I would like to know how many differences there are between this two kind of dual band.
i've bought a T-mobile from USA (i'm still waiting for it so i don't have it now) and i saw that it is a 900/1900. I'm in italy, so i would like to know if i'll use only 900 or 1900 too (i think in italy 1800 is used).
i think i'll have to unlock it, the vendor told me it is a pocket pc 2003, do XDAunlock, work on it?
(i'm sorry for the last off topic question...i post here to not make too many post around the forum)
lyka said:
I would like to know how many differences there are between this two kind of dual band.
i've bought a T-mobile from USA (i'm still waiting for it so i don't have it now) and i saw that it is a 900/1900. I'm in italy, so i would like to know if i'll use only 900 or 1900 too (i think in italy 1800 is used).
i think i'll have to unlock it, the vendor told me it is a pocket pc 2003, do XDAunlock, work on it?
(i'm sorry for the last off topic question...i post here to not make too many post around the forum)
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I'm sorry to tell you since your network works on 1800 Mhz your new T-mobile PW10B1 wont work on this frequency it's made for 900/1900 Mhz if you unlocked it or not it's not gona work, you need the PW10A1 devices they work on 900/1800 Mhz.
but there are cellphone companies in eu who use 900 maybe there are some in your country
if not well thats too bad
oh....no..... :shock:
is there anithing i can do? radio update??? something like this!
Your special edition ROM can help me?
from what i've been able to understand about the 900/1900 then it's a hardware limit the GSM part of the xda1 will have to be physically removed which would most likely be way more expensive then getting a new device
of cause i could be wrong
The XDA1 is available in two flavours (from what I read):
USA: 900/1900 bands
EU: 900/1800 bands
Since both flavours support the 900 band, you should be able to use it in Europ on one of the 'old' networks.
In Holland both KPN and Vodafone have nationwide coverage on 900MHz.
Since TIM is and 'old' company too (Telecom Italia isnt it?) I guess theyre on 900 too. To be sure: check the websites of the Italian mobile operators. Be aware that reception in some areas might be less than if you could use both 900 and 1800 bands as more and more operators are extending their networks on 1800 only (because of lack of free 900 band frequencies). I noticed this a few years back in France where in rural areas there was no coverage with a 900 phone and full reception with a 900/1800 phone (same network).
Reading the forum i've read that is possible to chose band 900/1800 and 900/1900 by bootloader and pressing calendar...can this be true for some model?
p.s. Of course TIM uses 900...i wonder if it will ever use 1900 one day
i think UTMS or some other replacement will take over before us and eu start to use the std's of eachother
just another question, i found information about special edition rom. It says that with bandswitch.exe some devices may work with other "not natural" band. So i'll try when my XDA will be shipped.
TIM wil NEVER use 1900, at least not in Europe. The 1900 band is not available for telecoms in Europe (just like the 1800 band is not available in USA)
I've got T-Mobile from US working in Russia on 800/1800 through ROM upgrade. What it did - it removed SIM Lock and turned the device into 3-band. Works perfect.
Rgds,
Cimmerian
www.briantracy.ru
i haver never heard about anybody being able to make a dualband into a triband using just software the filters and mixers in the hardware part og the gsm are different
I have never heard about that either. As far as I know frequencies are hardware based. Otherwise we could flash our XDA's to anything we wanted.
I have researched this for weeks and weeks since I need my XDA I to work on the 850Mhz network in the US quite badly.
Please post exactly how you did it
1800/1900
I got the same problem you do but reverse , I'm in the U.S and bought the phone from Europe ( qtek 1010 ) my phone will not work in the U.S because the network here is 1900 and in europe 1800. If you want I can trade with you if you have the same phone. I got all the package in a box.
My email is [email protected]
U can reach me on this email if you wish to exchange.
Lyka
There are 3 major networks in Italy that have 900 mhz networks.
They are:
Telecom Italia Mobile (TIM)
GSM 900/1800
Vodafone Omnitel N.V.
GSM 900/1800
Wind Telecomunicazioni SpA
GSM 900/1800
If you are within any of their networks you should have service with your
current Wallaby. (XDAI). You should be able to insert your sim card and go.
Some ROMS auto select the available network, others do not. There is also a program that you can cook into a ROM that give you a software selctable band switch.
I hope this helps?
Joe
Just to clarify my last post:
It has been discussed on this forum, for a few years, that you cannot
change a 900/1900 phone to 900/1800 using software.
However since your phone does operate on 900 mhz and there are
900 mhz throughout Italy, including Sardinia, you should have no problem using your current phone. In fact I have used my USA 900/1900) XDAI in Italy.
Let us know how you make out.
Joe
900/1900 T-Mobile -- Swap for an 900/1800 XDA ?
Straight swap...I made a mistake and bought a T-Mobile from the US thinking it would work in NZ....it won't and everyone on the forums agrees....so only option is to replace with a European one...
If anyone is interested, post a reply and we can set something up.
Cheers, Hamish
BandSwitching
I live in Jamaica, we have to GSM networks, 850/1900 & 900/1800 my XDA1 works well on both networks... although signal strength from the 900/1800 is stronger it makes no big difference... I believe the shorter band is essential in buildings etc. so wait till you get the phone and give it a try.
I tried the Band Switching application in the Special Edition ROM, it made no real difference.
Slightly off topic can someone point me to an explanation of UMTS???
I bought an SX56 Unlocked and i can't get it to work on the cingular network. Its really frustrating. I called Cingular and tried to get them to update my IMEI and they couldnt do it because they said the phone originated from AT&T, but they also told me that it should still work on the network even though they can't update the IMEI! I have tried switching to all different GSM bands and nothing is working. PLEASE HELP! There has got to be a way to fix this!
-Praetorin
i can fix it for you!
$$
How
? How can you fix it? Do you know how to make it operate in 850mhz gsm?
Is there a way to change that?
-Praetorin
SX56
This is funny question!
SX56 is GSM 900 / 1900 only.
Freacking Cingular works with GSM 850.
So... what do you think?
I bought a new att 8525 about a month ago it came with an ATT 3G sim card
I have a Thailand phone and SIM card(the network is AIS)with international roaming. Before I bought the 8525 when i would be in the U.S., I would just use my thai cellphone, an old tri- band nokia and when in the states It would automatically conect to Tmobiles' gsm network(1900 frequency I think)
On the 8525, The phone was locked of course so that the thai sim would not work. I ran Pof's program Auto unlock v3a. I put the AIS sim back in the phone and it worked and automatically conected on Tmobile's gsm network . I was exstatic!!!
Then... I caught a plane back to thailand. While between planes in Taipei I turned on my phone with the Thai sim and it connected !!! I was still exstatic!!!
THEN...I landed in Bangkok thailand. Turned my phone on and it will not recognize any netwoks other than some weird 1900 gsm network that I have never heard of. It does not recognize either AIS or DTAC or Orange which are the big three in Thailand.
I took my Thai sim out of the 8525 and put it back in my old nokia phone and it immediately conected to the AIS gsm network.
So it appears my new 8525 phone is not recognizing 900 and 1800 gsm networks. Pof's program definately ulocked the sim because it doesnt ask for an unlock code. I read the NO gsm issue but I am not sure that is this issue because the phone does appear to recognize 1900 gsm both here and remember it did conect to Tmobile 's 1900 gsm network in the states.
So the issue is recognition of 900 and 1800 gsm.
What can I do? Can someone please help?
Thank you in advance
Here are my device info after runing pof program, I am not sure what the info was before I ran the program:
ROM version: 2.15.502.3
ROM date: 04/09/07
Radio version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol version: 32.53.7018.01H
Kent
Have you checked to see what is enabled under the bands tab in the Settings > Phone panel?
Possibly, something is disabled there. It is possible that you have a resricted setting. If you do not have the "Band" tab visible, the registry hack is in the wiki or certainly somewhere. Try the google search link in my signature.
registry tweaked to add band tab but still havea problem
Thanks for the advice.Sure enough the band tab was not visible so I tweaked the registry to ad the band tab.
However when I try to change the gsm band from"auto" to 900/1800 I get a messsage that says :
"Warning unable to change gsm/umts band, please try again later."
regardless ofhow band setting are changed, auto./gsm, my phone still only detects the 1900 gsm band. arrrgh!
I have since my last post also updated my radio to 1.50,still nothing.
any elpis gretaly appreciated.
Kent
"Warning unable to change gsm/umts band, please try again later."
This ussually means there's a live connection somewhere. Make sure your disconnected from gprs, internet, etc., then your manual band changes will take.
thank to everyone that makes this forum possible
Problem solved after i shut down the phone, inserted my att sim, then phone all of a sudden starting recognizing all the 900/1800 networks here(asia/thailand). I then shut off the phone, inserted my thai ais sim and it also started picking up the networks. Not sure why I was geting the warning message .If it is due to having a live conection somewhere, my gprs was not configured on the new phone yet for thai/ais simand would not connect.
Anyway thanks you all for this forum.Now I will read , read read some more on the best 6.0 ROM for my phone.
Kent
I'm still fiddling and have changed my baseband to AUS2 which I believe is 850mhz only which in theory should pick up a signal because telecom xt network is 850/2100mhz only. The problem now I think is that the 850mhz radio frequency is not working?? When I change it to AUS band (pretty sure it's 850/2100mhz) my phone gets a signal and also all the other bands which have 2100mhz so my thoughts are that my phone is only picking up the 2100mhz signal which is only in a few areas in nz -.- Now I have read that you can access your phones service menu via dialler codes but I cannot find any for the huawei ideos x1 which is a shame because all of the codes havn't worked. Or I read somewhere that flashing a new modem to my device with the 850mhz band in it will also solve the problem but I have no idea which one will be suitable for me.......basically I need phone signal for work etc and have noo idea what to to do to resolve the problem and that's why I came to this forum in hope that one of you experts can help haha. If anyone can suggest something once again thaks
Regards
Jason