Hello
I'm just wondering before I try to upgrade my XDA II (from O2, with original ROM etc.) to the new ROM version available from O2... What would happen if I restored a previous (ActiveSync) backup after upgrading... would it restore the device to the old ROM version and everything, keep the new ROM version but restore my programs and files, or parts of both?
And if it doesn't restore the old ROM version, is it possible to do this?
The main reason I want to know is because synchronizing with ActiveSync does not include all my text messages, which I want to keep, and I would like to make sure that I can at least fully restore my device to the state it was in before if I do try upgrading (and possibly backing up the text messages using a third party program) in case anything goes wrong or gets lost.
Thanks
It won't work unfortunatly.
You should avoid restoring the old backup. Strange things happen if you do, from a device that won't boot after a soft reset, to completely dead (blank screen on reset).
I've just found the sourceo2 website with the XDA II Launch ROM... If I installed this ROM on my XDA II again after upgrading, would I be able to restore my backups then?
Yes if you installed the previous rom then you can restore your backup.
Thanks
Related
one quick question in setting up the upgrade from 1.3d to 1.4:
When using Titanium Backup, I back up all user apps + system apps.
Once upgraded to 1.4 can I restore also system apps, or I can mess something doing this? It's better to restore only user apps?
Thanks
You don't need to use any apps to restore after upgrade. All the apps should still be there if u only did an upgrade without a reformat factory settings
Thanks but if I understand correctly the Dexter's instructions, he recommends to do a Wipe (Factory Reset) before and after installing the ROM. In such a case, I guess that all apps and settings will be lost. And then, it is when I gess I need to restore from a previous backup or otherwise I would need to restore everything manually, app by app.
Even if you don't wipe out you apps and data, it maybe be better if you do a backup in case something goes wrong... Bad things happens when we least expect
OK, but my original question remains:
Once upgraded to 1.4 (and making a wipe) can I restore also system apps by using Titanium Backup, or I can mess something doing this? It's better to restore only user apps?
What system apps that you want to back up with Titanium? I recommend you to check the change log from each of Dexter version to see if any of your system apps is being changed in the new update or not. If it's changed in the new update then don't back up it, otherwise it's safe to do so.
OK, thanks. That's what I did.
Since after installing the ROM, all applications there were the ones coming with the ROM, I didn't restore any existing app, assuming it is already the last and correct version. I was therefore restoring only those missing, and it worked fine. The only problem, I guess, is that by doing this way I didn't restore the app data for those apps coming with the ROM. Not a major problem.
I'm running streakdroid 1.9 but I would like to do some experimentation with my streak. If I flash a new rom what will I lose? How do you backup your data so you can flash to your hearts content?
Thanks
if u flash stock roms, they do a factory reset during first start up.
So u end up loosing everything.
However if u flash .zip version of the stock roms using CWM or streak recovery , u will retain almost everything but may loose somethings like root and so on.
Remember stock roms will flash its default recovery everytime it boots up
Ok thanks. Is it wise to do a factory reset anyway?
What tools can I use to backup messages, apps, photos, etc?
I use titanium backup.
If you do a nandroid backup, when you restore it, everything will be just as it was before you flashed another ROM...
As far as using Titanium... it has never worked for me completely, nor has MyBackUp Pro, they cause me more headache than being useful...
I have gotten to the point to when I flash a new ROM, I just manually install everything, I know it sounds like some hassle, but you end up with a much smoother operating phone.
I even do a nandroid backup first, then go into my ROM and manually uninstall everything, so that when I boot up my new ROM and setup my market account, it doesn't try to install everything on its own and bog down my phone at first, I install everything manually in the order I want and set them up as I go.
I know this sounds cumbersome, but I have found it creates a cleaner environment and practically eliminated force closes
That is the way I like to do things also but what about the things that you can't just re-install e.g. sms, application specific data?
Advice
I was having a sim card and constant restart issue after updating to streakroid 2.4.4, and even after flashing dsc, the problem persisted. After I reviewed the steps I had taken I realized that I never did a factory resest (fearing I would forever lose my precious app data, which I did -_-). It turned out that was the fix, after doing the factory reset, my sim card was recognized immediately and a couple of the text I had missed showed up. However, I fixed one fixed problem and developed another.
Even though I restored a MyBackup and Titanium backup I did right before resetting I recovered my several apps without their precious data (setting, notes, bookmarks). I tried doing internal backups within the apps, some conveniently had syncs to a cloud yet I missed doing that with a few apps because I have over 100+ and I use more than half on a regular basis (even if for 5 minutes). All my apps are on my device, which is a good thing but I cant appreciate that given the missing data.
So my advice is:
Use apps that have can automatically backup or sync data -- there are enough apps with similiar utility that you can avoid ones without that function.
Do a manual backup within your important apps. -- Some apps backup files to locations that may be wiped during update, doesn't have auto backup or the last backup is months old.
Pics, texts, call logs are easily backed up -- Backup programs will explicitly state or ask what to back up in that regard.
Do a nandroid backup -- I believe this only restores rom and apps but someone can correct me.
Caveat
Through all the research done before actually need to restore a backup I missed the fact when restore apps depending on the restore program every app has to be reinstalled individually. If you have more than 25 apps then #$#@!, also for some reason when restoring with titanium if during a batch restore you come across an app if you hit cancel during one of the install prompts because you actually don't want to restore that app the batch will freeze and you'll have to force close titanium and start the restore all over. Go through the list of restore options and choose each app one by one, save yourself the time.
Lastly, to piggy back off what was said before, a factory reset( FR) after updating rom is always recommended but its not always needed. Most roms will update without causing you to lose any data but like I said previously I had sim card issues when I updated without a FR. YMMV
At this point I don't know if this helps the OP but maybe it will benefit someone else who reads this thread.
This guide by _n0p_ tells how to do an upgrade and minimize the re-installation of apps.
Key items:
Use the backup function of any apps that have it
Don't count on restoring data with TB or My Backup
Make a nandroid - just in case
I have found TB and My Backup to be useful for things like browser bookmarks.
The post linked to discussed going from Froyo to Gingerbread but the same techniques apply for moving to any other ROM.
Last time i changed roms, i used the Dell backup utility for evertyhing but the apps, which can be backed up together with their data with QtADB which creates a backup folder on your SD. After installing the new rom, i chose advanced recovery from the Dell Utility and set it to recover everything but the apps, which i recovered with QtADB. However, I also strongly recommend nandroid, in case the steak doesn't boot after the install.
Hi, my gs2 is rooted with CF-Root, this is the FIRST time i have done all this as im new to Android. Last night i did a nandroid backup and a titanium backup, factory/cache wipe etc before i then flashed villainrom 2.4.2 for the first time with success and now my phone is obviously like it was out of the box but on villainrom, so all my apps, contacts etc have gone.
I have a few questions:
Whats the best way to restore everything and get my contacts and apps etc back? do i have to recover with nandroid or titanium?
whats the difference between these 2 backups i made, nan/titan?
also does recovering any of these backups affect the custom rom i just flashed? ideally i would like to know for when im flashing custom roms in the future, which is the best way to back things up then recover them after i have flashed a custom rom?
One last thing is can i still use samsung kies to backup/sync things like contacts/photos with a rooted gs2 running villainrom?
Sorry for these noob questions, any help is really appreciated! THX!
Sorry to post again but can anybody adivise me on the above?
Thanks.
A nand backup = backup your current setup, like an image (including ROM)
Titanum = backup apps +/ data
Now that you flashed a new rom, you should restore with Titanium your apps.
So - If you want to go back to your earlier ROM + everything, use your nand back up. If you want to stay on this ROM and have the apps back, use Titanium.
And once you flashed a custom rom, you can't use Kies anymore to update/back up etc.
Cheers
Right i wasnt fully sure so thx for the help, time to restore some apps!
Thanks again
Hello All,
This may sound like a totally noob question.
I have my Galaxy S2 updated earlier to HyperDroid 4.4.7 base only with no surgeons or themes. I was liking the original like touch and feel with the added functionalites. I did install numerous applications from the market place according to my needs.
Now since the HyperDroid 5.0.0 is available , I used the phone ->-Settings->Hyperdroid Parts menu to download and apply the upgrade to the phone.
The upgrade went fine however I have lost all my custom phone settings and my installed applications. The phone starts now and asks for the google account to login.
So is there a way I can recover all phone settings and the installed applications only. Of course this should exclude the hyperdroid base which is updated to a newer version.
I guess the upgrade process did a backup automatically before applying, when booting in the CWM recovery mode. But I am not sure how to restore this backup, where is it saved by default and by restoring this backup would it restore the applications and settings only or it would also practically downgrade the base ROM to the earlier version since the backup was taken before applying the upgrade.
Also suggest what should be a standard and safe way to apply upgrade in order to ensure all phone settings, applications and user files (docs/pictures/music) would stay the same or can be restored after an upgrade.
Thanks for clarifying my confusion once and for all for all future upgrades.
Cheers.
Titanium Backup should cover all of that
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HyperEscape said:
Hello All,
This may sound like a totally noob question.
I have my Galaxy S2 updated earlier to HyperDroid 4.4.7 base only with no surgeons or themes. I was liking the original like touch and feel with the added functionalites. I did install numerous applications from the market place according to my needs.
Now since the HyperDroid 5.0.0 is available , I used the phone ->-Settings->Hyperdroid Parts menu to download and apply the upgrade to the phone.
The upgrade went fine however I have lost all my custom phone settings and my installed applications. The phone starts now and asks for the google account to login.
So is there a way I can recover all phone settings and the installed applications only. Of course this should exclude the hyperdroid base which is updated to a newer version.
If you had read the changelog provided, you would have seen it's a full wipe release. If you didn't back up your data before flashing the ROM, your data is gone.
I guess the upgrade process did a backup automatically before applying, when booting in the CWM recovery mode. But I am not sure how to restore this backup, where is it saved by default and by restoring this backup would it restore the applications and settings only or it would also practically downgrade the base ROM to the earlier version since the backup was taken before applying the upgrade.
No, a backup is not automatically made. The backup/restore is a feature of the recovery, you can manually create/restore backups. Installing hyperdroid 5.0.0 does not automatically create a backup.
Making a backup using this feature backs up your ROM completely, all your apps, settings etc including the base ROM. For example if you had a backup of your previous Hyperdroid 4.4.7 ROM and flashed Hyperdroid 5.0.0, restoring your backup would revert you to Hyperdroid 4.4.7
Also suggest what should be a standard and safe way to apply upgrade in order to ensure all phone settings, applications and user files (docs/pictures/music) would stay the same or can be restored after an upgrade.
Titanium backup should be able to backup and restore your settings and applications, user files shouldn't be touched with hyperdroid's full wipe so they should all still be there.
Thanks for clarifying my confusion once and for all for all future upgrades.
Cheers.
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Hi all !
if i restore nand backup from another phone on my phone + restore my orgininal EFS folder does it mean my phone will work perfectly without any surprise ????
thanks a lot
dahikino
totally not recommended. you could be coming from different android version, or even if same version, different manufacturers may have different setup.
if you feel adventurous, you can try just reinstalling the "data" portion though, that is where your installed apps are placed. but be warned it also contains some previous system settings which may not be compatible with sgs3.
better alternative is to install Titanium backup, it has function to read from nandroid backups so you can pick and choose what you want to extract from there.
First of all this is the wrong section to post this, go to the q&a section instead.
If the other phone was not the same exact model of phone then DO NOT restore the nandroid. Like the other commenter mentioned you can use titanium backup to save and restore apps or even use it to extract the apps from the nandroid.
Hi all,
I remember my first Froyo rom on my GS1 was provided as a nandroid package..
Questions go in the Q/A section
Fyi, nandroid doesn't touch the EFS partition or the bootloaders, or radio, just the system, data, cache and boot (kernel) partitions.
You *can* restore another person's nandroid onto your phone, but its really not a good idea (someone shipped roms as nandroids for a bit...), and you shouldn't need to touch the EFS unless something goes wrong, and a rom should never touch the EFS.
Edit: As people above say, don't restore a nandroid from another model of phone onto your device, if you want to move data from phone to phone like that use titanium backup or the like.
i want to copy a nand backup from a S3 orange 16GB onto my phone S3 SFR 32GB, because i have no solution for a "NO SMS,NO CALL BUT INTERNET WORKING" problem
changing rom, modem,etc.. etc... so many things without solved it
thanks
dahikino
dahikino said:
i want to copy a nand backup from a S3 orange 16GB onto my phone S3 SFR 32GB, because i have no solution for a "NO SMS,NO CALL BUT INTERNET WORKING" problem
changing rom, modem,etc.. etc... so many things without solved it
thanks
dahikino
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Well in that case at your risk by Nand i hope you mean a CWM Nandroid recovery .
Its often best to have the same version of recovery to restore backup if first attempt fails ..
Be far simpler to flash a stock SGS3 Orange rom via Odin .
jje.